13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting 2019-09-24
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 24 13:30:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:31 * Trevinho at 10 meters from ground
13:31 <seb128> Trevinho, safe flight!
13:31 <Trevinho> love 4g on connection
13:31 <seb128> you are supposed to be in flight mode at this point btw :p
13:31 <willcooke> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (hols), jamesh (hols), hellsworth(swap), jibel, kenvandine (out?), laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (going up), robert_ancell (out)
13:32 <oSoMoN> 🐱/
13:32 <oSoMoN> Trevinho, don't crash that plane
13:32 <seb128> hey
13:32 <willcooke> happy travels Trevinho
13:32 <willcooke> Flight mode FTW
13:32 <willcooke> Let's zip through the rls bugs
13:33 <jibel> you're also not supposed to use a laptop during takeoff
13:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <willcooke> Looks clear
13:33 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:33 <willcooke> Also clear
13:34 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:34 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1844575
13:34 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1844575 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Pixelated fonts sometimes" [Undecided,New]
13:34 <willcooke> Is it Wayland only?
13:35 <seb128> likely
13:35 <Laney> think so
13:35 <Laney> DENIED
13:35 <willcooke> heh
13:35 <willcooke> so yeah, -1 for rls status I guess
13:36 <seb128> -1
13:37 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1845188
13:37 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845188 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 19.10 Community Wallpapers" [Undecided,New]
13:37 <willcooke> I tagged that, but really, it's not a release blocker
13:37 <willcooke> I shouldn't have tagged it on reflection
13:37 <Laney> well
13:37 <Laney> gives me a chance to ask if anyone else wants to do it
13:37 <Laney> :-)
13:38 <willcooke> :)
13:38 <Laney> got my hands inside gdm, would be good not to switch
13:38 <willcooke> Would anyone like to package up the wallpapers, they should be ready to go
13:38 <Laney> plus, easy packaging, could be fun for someone
13:38 <willcooke> oSoMoN, I think you helped out last time, if you're interested?>
13:38 <Laney> plenty of examples in the history to copy
13:38 <oSoMoN> yeah, can do
13:38 <willcooke> merci
13:38 <Laney> neato
13:39 <willcooke> Assigned, and untagged
13:39 <seb128> thx oSoMoN
13:39 <willcooke> which is kinda odd, but I think that's opk
13:39 <willcooke> ok
13:39 <seb128> I can do review/sponsoring if needed
13:39 <willcooke> thanks seb128
13:39 <willcooke> next up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845198
13:39 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845198 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "GNOME Shell seemingly locked up at login" [Critical,Confirmed]
13:39 <willcooke> which may be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1845017 too
13:39 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845017 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Desktop hard lockup in 19.10" [Undecided,New]
13:39 <seb128> +1
13:40 <willcooke> yeah, agree
13:40 <willcooke> and I think there's really only one person to look at it, right?
13:40 <seb128> assign to Trevinho (sorry Marco)
13:40 <seb128> yes :/
13:40 <seb128> well maybe duflu could but he's off atm
13:40 <seb128> we can to tradding of some work once he's back if needed
13:40 <willcooke> ack
13:41 <willcooke> assigned and targetted
13:41 <willcooke> k, that's it for rls bugs.
13:41 <jibel> another ee-incoming is bug 1844509
13:41 <ubot5> bug 1844509 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm fails to start" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844509
13:41 <jibel> it is not in the list and affects ubiquity but it's more likely due to a desktop component
13:41 <willcooke> jibel, so comment #2 is not true any more?
13:42 <jibel> no it is not, I thought I added a comment to say so.
13:42 <jibel> will do
13:42 <seb128> ideally foundations would do the investigation and bounce back to us if needed since they own ubiquity but do we count on that?
13:42 <willcooke> oki, thanks
13:42 <willcooke> seb128, I dont think we should count on it
13:42 <seb128> k
13:42 <seb128> anyway +1
13:43 <willcooke> who would like to work out what's going on in that one?
13:43 <willcooke> is it related to the previous one?
13:43 <seb128> dunno but I've the bug in a VM atm and looking at the logs
13:43 <seb128> so feel free to assign to me for round 1
13:43 <willcooke> kk
13:43 <willcooke> thanks seb128
13:44 <seb128> I hope it doesn't hope going back Marco's way :p
13:44 * seb128 hugs Trevinho
13:44 <Laney> bet not
13:44 <willcooke> seb128, I was going to say - we should spend some time doing an "unassigned" review and seeing if we can trim the old rls bugs list.  Lets try and do that tomorrow?
13:44 <Laney> bet it's something in the startup sequence rather than shell itself
13:45 <Laney> just my guess, happy to put 10€ on it though
13:45 <seb128> lol
13:45 <willcooke> XDDDD
13:45 <seb128> I'm not betting, made enough profit for the month :p
13:45 <willcooke> :D
13:45 <willcooke> #topic AOB
13:45 <seb128> willcooke, +1 on cleaning rls
13:45 <willcooke> Anyone got anything
13:45 <willcooke> for AOB
13:45 <seb128> we should review now the targetted/unassigned list
13:45 <Laney> HAHA
13:45 <seb128> since those are +1/-1 things
13:45 <seb128> also proposedmigration
13:46 <willcooke> seb128, you want to do the targetted ones in the meeting?
13:46 <seb128> yes, we discussed that previous time and agreed it was the right to do iirc
13:46 <jibel> AOB. I'd like to escalate bug 1840122. It's breaking automated tests and make iso testing a real PITA
13:47 <ubot5> bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840122
13:47 <seb128> it's basically the same as the incoming ones
13:47 <Laney> you two mean different things by the word targetting
13:47 <Laney> targetted*
13:47 <seb128> I mean http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:47 <seb128> &co
13:47 <seb128> for unassigned entries
13:48 <willcooke> jibel, I will escalate that one one
13:48 <willcooke> seb128, oki, let's do it
13:48 <jibel> thx
13:48 <willcooke> #topic unassigned rls bugs
13:49 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/1731459
13:49 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1731459 in sane-backends (Debian) "genesys_gl847 scanners produce a black band in scanned images on Ubuntu 17.10+, 18.04 LTS and 18.10 Cosmic cuttlefish" [Unknown,Confirmed]
13:50 <willcooke> GunnarHj, are you looking at that one for Bionic still?  ^
13:50 <seb128> it that's fix commited we can skip those
13:50 <willcooke> ah yeah
13:50 <seb128> looks like there is none on the bionic list
13:50 <willcooke> eyah
13:51 <seb128> one one disco list
13:51 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1842904
13:51 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1842904 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu Disco) "New upstream release 19.01.4" [Undecided,New]
13:52 <willcooke> assign duflu and see if he wants to push through the SRU?
13:52 <seb128> I would delete the disco line
13:52 <seb128> we got no user report and it's almost 19.10 time
13:52 <willcooke> that works
13:53 <seb128> duflu can still targetting it back with a sponsoring request if he wants
13:53 <willcooke> ee is clear
13:53 <willcooke> #topic proposed migrations
13:54 <willcooke> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:54 <willcooke> Anything in that list cause for concern>
13:54 <willcooke> ?
13:55 <Laney> promote those libcairo-gobject-perl ones
13:55 <Laney> the others are in hand
13:55 <Laney> ... well I'm wondering why g-i is foundations ...
13:56 <seb128> p_itti's heritage? ;-)
13:56 <willcooke> should we move it to us
13:56 <willcooke> >
13:56 <willcooke> ?
13:56 <seb128> it would probably reflect better reality
13:56 <Laney> maybe they want to fix ruby-gnome
13:56 <seb128> I looked a bit at this one yesterday btw and opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby-gnome/+bug/1845008
13:56 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1845008 in ruby-gnome (Ubuntu) "The autopkgtests are failing with glib 2.61+" [High,New]
13:56 <Laney> that's the only reason I just noticed
13:57 <Laney> yeah
13:57 <willcooke> k, I will ask Pat when I speak to her about #1840122
13:57 <Laney> don't really understand it well enough to fix it atm
13:57 <Laney> but the status is real there, new g-i does break that
13:57 <Laney> guess I could own it, might work on that later in the week
13:58 <willcooke> thanks Laney
13:58 <Laney> that is it
13:58 <willcooke> #topic AOB2
13:58 <marcustomlinson> AOB2?
13:58 <Laney> AAOOBB
13:58 <didrocks> better than AOB1, obviously
13:59 <marcustomlinson> haha
13:59 <willcooke> I was too eager last time
13:59 <willcooke> AOB2.0 serverless
13:59 <willcooke> anyone got anything?
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14:00 <willcooke> #endmeeting