13:32 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-07-16
13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jul 16 13:32:34 2019 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:32 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:32 <oSoMoN> 😎/
13:32 <didrocks> hey
13:32 <kenvandine> \o
13:33 <Trevinho> 🌴
13:33 <marcustomlinson> 🕺🏻
13:33 <oSoMoN> is that a disco guy lifting a palmtree?
13:34 <seb128> lol
13:34 <seb128> ok, let's get started
13:34 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs
13:34 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:34 <seb128> nothing
13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:35 <seb128> kenvandine, can you remind Robert to assign himself to bugs he nominates like that snapd-glib one?
13:35 <kenvandine> yes
13:35 <seb128> thx
13:35 <seb128> not review cc anymore at this point
13:35 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs
13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:35 <seb128> nothing
13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:36 <seb128> same snapd-glib one
13:36 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-incoming
13:36 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs
13:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html
13:36 <seb128> the gconf is actually being handled on the dpkg side
13:37 <seb128> gconf itself imho is not rls material (though wouldn't hurt to upload it if someone wants to do that)
13:37 <seb128> other opinions?
13:38 <seb128> seems not
13:38 <didrocks> (no real opinion, seems popular, but we don't seed it for quite a long time, unsure how many installs are old without this cleanup)
13:38 <Laney> ok with not fixing it in gconf
13:38 <seb128> thx didrocks Laney :)
13:38 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html
13:39 <seb128> nothing unassigned there
13:39 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:39 <seb128> Laney, your turn!
13:39 <Laney> yeah sorry I haven't quite made cards yet
13:39 <Laney> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
13:39 <Laney> one thing that needs to be done is lmdb promoted, that MIR is finished now
13:40 <seb128> I'm never clear there is MIR team should give a final/ack do it or if any archive admin can do it
13:40 <didrocks> depends on the last comment, I tend to say on mine "ack when security team gives its +1"
13:40 <seb128> I guess I will do it since they don't seem to be picking it up
13:41 <Laney> depends on the status I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRTeam#Process_states
13:41 <seb128> didrocks, oh, you are MIR team ... want to do it? so no discussion of MIR or not :)
13:42 <seb128> I'm not wanting to enter another argument with doko atm
13:42 <didrocks> seb128: I'm fine having a look later this week
13:42 <Laney> they have an MIR meeting at the same time as this one
13:42 <Laney> go ping in there right now
13:42 <didrocks> actually, before
13:42 <didrocks> like finished 10 minutes ago
13:42 <seb128> didrocks, it should be a matter of just doing the promotion command
13:42 <didrocks> (when they happens)
13:42 <Laney> oh right, they don't use #endmeeting
13:42 <seb128> but alright
13:42 <seb128> other topics?
13:42 <Laney> yes ok
13:43 <didrocks> seb128: well, I need to read the comments first :p
13:43 <seb128> didrocks, (oh, and thanks ;)
13:43 <Laney> I think there's going to be some cards this time
13:43 <didrocks> yw
13:43 <Laney> pls assign them tomorrow in that other meeting
13:43 <seb128> k
13:43 <Laney> and Trevinho, mutter looks like it fails tests on armhf/arm64, can you look at that pls?
13:43 <Trevinho> Laney: ok
13:44 <Laney> did get mail about that but I forgot until now
13:44 <Laney> good checkpoint :-)
13:44 <Laney> thanks!
13:44 <Laney> k end
13:44 <seb128> thx Laney
13:44 <seb128> #topic AOB
13:44 <seb128> k, let me start this one by asking Till for status update of nm autopkgtests and bionic SRU
13:45 <seb128> tkamppeter, ^ can you give us an update of where we stand on those? they have been ongoing for several weeks now, is there any blocker you need help with?
13:47 <tkamppeter> On the Bionic SRU I did not get any further cooperation of users. For me it even looks like that regression cases are low, and the few complaints are from users with very special cases.
13:48 <tkamppeter> Especially I get also that impression as there are not any more bug reports.
13:48 <seb128> so what do you recommend we do to unblock the situation/move forward?
13:48 <seb128> well, the SRU got reverted
13:48 <seb128> that would stop the reports
13:48 <tkamppeter> Probably we should try to get this version to some more users.
13:49 <seb128> can you talk to the SRU team about it?
13:49 <tkamppeter> I will do.
13:49 <seb128> thx
13:49 <seb128> any other topic?
13:50 <Laney> about the tests in eoan?
13:50 <Laney> any update+ sorry
13:50 <kenvandine> tkamppeter: how about the autopkgtests?
13:50 <Laney> you can see on https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages that it's blocking a bunch of stuff
13:50 <tkamppeter> In the autopkg tests there are no tests which I can reproduce all the times. Any failure happens only sometimes, leading to the impression that there is something going too slow.
13:50 <kenvandine> i saw you updated the MP
13:51 <seb128> even failing sometime is a problem/needs to be fixed
13:51 <kenvandine> yes
13:52 <tkamppeter> I also had some talk with Seth Forshee and he told that there are many failures since switchover to kernel 5.2.x but also not always the same failure, but frequent enough to hardly get the whole test suite pass.
13:52 <seb128> we need to get on top of those issues
13:52 <seb128> including 5.2 problems
13:52 <tkamppeter> He has released 5.2.x into Eoan now and I have updated my VM.
13:52 <seb128> we can't keep delaying week after week
13:53 <seb128> k
13:53 <seb128> hopefully you get a clue about those by the next meeting then!
13:53 <seb128> 
13:53 <tkamppeter> I have now seen that the case of the emulated AP not coming up disappeared, but on the Ethernet tests I see more failures.
13:53 <seb128> other topics?
13:55 <kenvandine> seth filed a bug on the 5.2 issue, linked on the status report
13:55 <seb128> kenvandine, tkamppeter, can we make investigating that a topic priority for this week?
13:56 <seb128> topic->top
13:56 <kenvandine> that should be tkamppeter's top priority already
13:56 <seb128> k, good
13:56 <seb128> alright, no other topic?
13:56 <seb128> 30s
13:57 <seb128> k, it's a wrap then, thanks team!
13:57 <seb128> #endmeeting