13:32 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-06-11 13:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 11 13:32:43 2019 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:32 <meetingology> 13:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:33 <Laney> s/the hub/discourse/ 🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊🙊 13:33 <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 13:33 <marcustomlinson> \o 13:33 <oSoMoN> o/ 13:34 <kenvandine> o/ 13:35 <seb128> ok, let's get started 13:35 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bugs 13:35 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:35 <seb128> empty 13:36 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:37 <seb128> out of the ones we already discussed previous week and that still need sorting out 13:37 <seb128> bug #1786344 13:37 <ubot5> bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344 13:37 <seb128> Gunnar nominated this one 13:37 <seb128> I don't think it has enough heat to be rls tracked 13:38 <seb128> I suggest assigning to Gunnar and deleting the bionic specific target 13:38 <seb128> he can still pursue the SRUing 13:38 <marcustomlinson> 👍🏻 13:39 <seb128> k, next 13:39 <seb128> bug # 13:39 <seb128> bug #1734887 13:39 <ubot5> bug 1734887 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Cosmic) "No caps lock indicator on login screen" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734887 13:40 <seb128> Trevinho, ^ do you think that is going to land in 3.30 serie? 13:40 <Trevinho> let me see 13:41 <Laney> does that affect whether we consider it rls? 13:42 <seb128> I don't know 13:42 <Trevinho> I think we can propose a cherry pick in case. 13:42 <seb128> hum, /me ponders 13:42 * Laney thinks not 13:42 <Laney> either we want to fix it or we don't 13:42 <seb128> right 13:42 <Trevinho> indeed if we consider important we can still do ourself 13:42 <seb128> I think it would be nice to fix 13:42 <seb128> but probably not important enough to be rls targetted 13:43 <Trevinho> a list of nice to have if upstream agrees let's say 13:43 <seb128> k, let's untarget it? 13:43 <Laney> yes 13:43 <seb128> thx 13:43 <Laney> dunno why duflu is still doing that, did someone have a word? 13:43 <Trevinho> I prepare the cherry pick anyways we'll see if it lands 13:44 <seb128> I mentioned it to him, will do again 13:44 <Laney> thx 13:44 <seb128> that's it for bionic 13:44 <seb128> #topic rls-cc-bugs 13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:45 <seb128> no desktop entry 13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:45 <seb128> nothing to discuss, still the era thing unsorted and that capslock one 13:45 <seb128> #topic rls-dd-bugs 13:45 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:45 <seb128> no desktop entry 13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:46 <seb128> same, nothing new 13:46 <seb128> #topic rls-ee-bugs 13:46 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:47 <seb128> the cups one was discussed previous week but I had forgotten to edit post meeting, done now 13:47 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:47 <seb128> nothing unassigned there 13:47 <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 13:47 <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages 13:48 <seb128> tkamppeter, kenvandine, what's the status of sorting out the n-m autopkgtest regression post removal of those deprecated libs? 13:49 <kenvandine> I'll check with Till, he's out today 13:49 <seb128> thx 13:50 <seb128> oSoMoN, the libreoffice one is something on your list? 13:50 <Laney> I made a card for it 13:50 <Laney> maybe check there first if you're going to be leading this section? 13:50 <oSoMoN> there's this one test that's become flaky in eoan, it needs investigating 13:50 <seb128> k 13:50 <oSoMoN> in the meantime I’ve triggered a new test run 13:50 <seb128> Laney, sorry, I didn't intend to "lead", I just though it would be the same as previous week so I asked directly about the n-m status 13:51 <seb128> then there was 1 left, it seemed pointless to ask you to ask about that one only 13:51 <seb128> thx for making the card, I try to be aware/handle that part better next time 13:51 <Laney> ok, well I usually make the cards around meeting time, for reference 13:51 <Laney> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/libr/libreoffice/eoan/s390x 13:51 <seb128> noted 13:51 <Laney> that doesn't obviously say "flaky" to me by the way 13:52 <Laney> more like new openjdk-lts might have impacted it 13:52 <Laney> maybe we get lucky though 13:52 <seb128> doookoooo 13:52 <seb128> :p 13:52 <seb128> but yeah, needs investigating 13:52 <oSoMoN> Laney, look at older failures 13:52 <seb128> thx oSoMoN Laney 13:52 <xnox> seb128: or like tdaitx ;-) 13:52 <Laney> I mean I see a few crosses 13:52 <Laney> what do you mean? 13:52 <Laney> anyway, if it's flaky... 13:52 <Laney> .... 13:53 <Laney> it shouldn't be 13:53 <oSoMoN> indeed 13:53 <oSoMoN> I'm filing a bug to not forget about it 13:53 <Laney> cool 13:53 <marcustomlinson> :) 13:54 <Laney> there's a card too, such tracking 13:54 <seb128> good, that's it for that section then 13:54 <seb128> #topic AOB 13:54 <seb128> other topics? 13:54 <didrocks> if a kind AA (not me) from ubuntu-desktop team could review grubzfs-testsuite, that would be awesome :) 13:54 <didrocks> (ok, there is just one candidate matching that description :p) 13:55 <Laney> kind?!?!?!? 13:55 <didrocks> ahah 13:55 <Laney> 😈 13:55 * Laney slaps self 13:55 <seb128> lol 13:55 * seb128 gets the hint 13:56 <seb128> didrocks, will do 13:56 <didrocks> thx ;) 13:56 <seb128> other topics? ;) 13:56 <Laney> network-manager on bionic, gnome-shell on disco 13:56 <Laney> are those well handled (particularly the first one) or do people need help? 13:56 <Trevinho> should we organize for guadec? 13:56 <Trevinho> g-s is fine 13:57 <seb128> kenvandine, can you speak about n-m/bionic since Till is out? what's the status of unblocking that one? 13:58 <Laney> Trevinho: false positive or you have a fix or what? 13:58 <Trevinho> Laney: I've already submitted a fix for that 13:58 * Laney is getting daily spam emails from Brian 13:59 <Trevinho> merged to master, 3.30 is a bit different diff so done other pick 13:59 <seb128> Trevinho, we need another upload with the fix then? 13:59 <Laney> 3.32 branch? 13:59 <Trevinho> might be the case to do our patching only 13:59 <Trevinho> yeah sorry 14:00 <Laney> go bug for reviews, if no luck we can distro patch 14:00 <Laney> imho 14:00 <Trevinho> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/607/ 14:00 <kenvandine> seb128: last week Till verified the split DNS issue was fixed with the systemd update in bionic 14:01 <Trevinho> if you want to help with reviews... 14:01 <seb128> kenvandine, that's the systemd part but doesn't address the n-m regressions that leaded to have -updates reverted, right? 14:02 <Laney> Trevinho: thx 14:02 <kenvandine> i think he's still trying to understand the regression 14:03 <seb128> k 14:03 <seb128> but yeah, it feels like we don't have a good handle on this one 14:03 <Trevinho> seb128: so to answer, yes. although IMHO is quite low priority 14:03 <seb128> unsure how we can unblock it 14:03 <Trevinho> is something happening on shutdown 14:03 <Laney> it's blocking the SRU from being offered to people 14:03 <seb128> Trevinho, well, "low priority", our current SRU is blocked from reaching users until that's sorted out 14:04 <Trevinho> or reload... which would be anyways covered by session 14:04 <Trevinho> sure, sure... I'm saying from the bug point of view. indeed I fixed it promptly because of that... 14:04 <seb128> if you believe that's a non issue for users and should be unflagged please talk to Brian about it asking him to do that 14:05 <Laney> I'll go ping in #gnome-shell if Marco is too shy :-) 14:05 <seb128> thx! 14:05 <Trevinho> I am :-) 14:05 <seb128> k, that should be it for now on those I guess 14:05 <seb128> other topics? 14:06 <seb128> 30 seconds 14:06 <Trevinho> as for guadec? 14:06 <Laney> seems like an internal one 14:06 <seb128> yeah 14:07 <seb128> but you are right, let me try to get that ball rolling 14:07 <Laney> cool 14:07 <seb128> but we don't need the team for it, so let's wrap 14:07 <Trevinho> we can address it internally indeed.... just as a reminder ;-) 14:07 <seb128> #endmeeting