13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting - 2019-04-30 13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 30 13:30:04 2019 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:30 <meetingology> 13:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:30 <didrocks> hey 13:30 <Trevinho> hello 13:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 13:30 <seb128> hey 13:31 <andyrock> o/ 13:31 <kenvandine> o/ 13:31 <marcustomlinson> \o 13:31 <willcooke> Bad times: Last meeting with andyrock 😭 13:32 * kenvandine cries 13:32 <Trevinho> 😭😭😭😭😭 13:32 <andyrock> 😭 13:32 <willcooke> Bye andyrock, we will all miss you. We got you this cake: 🎂 13:32 <kenvandine> cake! 13:32 <andyrock> I'll miss you all too :D 13:32 <willcooke> and we all clubbed together and bought you a helicopter: 🚁 13:33 <marcustomlinson> I already missed you andyrock 13:33 <seb128> :( 13:33 <oSoMoN> come back soon! 13:33 <willcooke> Good times: My first meeting with marcustomlinson 🚀🚀🚀 13:33 <Trevinho> no the helicopter is what he has to buy us... 13:33 <willcooke> :d 13:33 <willcooke> D 13:33 <didrocks> we are going to miss you andyrock 13:34 <willcooke> ok, lets whizz through the bugs 13:34 <willcooke> I have some AOB which might be interesting 13:35 <willcooke> #topic Bionic bugs 13:35 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:35 <willcooke> incoming is clear 13:35 <seb128> willcooke, there is one listed here 13:35 <willcooke> oh boy 13:36 <willcooke> thanks seb128 13:36 <seb128> :) 13:36 <seb128> looks like it's assigned to Trevinho/being handled, so probably just a matter of untagging 13:36 <willcooke> donr 13:36 <willcooke> e 13:36 <Trevinho> yeah added to know weather was the case to consider is rls 13:36 <willcooke> for tracking there is this one: 13:36 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnfs/+bug/1746598 13:36 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[MIR] libnfs" [High,In progress] 13:37 <willcooke> Trevinho, +1, its important as it can lock up the shell, useful to fix 13:37 <willcooke> plus andyrock did all hard work 13:37 <willcooke> ;) 13:37 <seb128> willcooke, I've assigned the libnfs one to Eric who was driving that conversation 13:37 <willcooke> ah thx 13:38 <willcooke> #topic Cosmic Bugs 13:38 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:38 <willcooke> Really is clear (even ctrl-f desktop this time) 13:38 <seb128> :) 13:39 <willcooke> There's this one which is unassigned: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/saaj/+bug/1814133 13:39 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1814133 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Cosmic) "update to openjdk 11 in 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,New] 13:39 <willcooke> which is probably in our list for LO 13:39 <willcooke> and that looks like its in hand/done 13:40 <oSoMoN> yeah, the LO part is done 13:40 <willcooke> Oh, we have libnfs and fonts-liberation2 13:40 <willcooke> seb128 - do I remember you were looking at the nfsone? 13:41 <oSoMoN> not sure where the fonts-liberation task comes from… 13:41 <oSoMoN> I'll ask do_ko after the meeting 13:41 <willcooke> thx 13:42 <willcooke> and then there's this one: 13:42 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1822062 13:42 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1822062 in cups (Ubuntu Eoan) "Race condition on boot between cups and sssd" [Medium,In progress] 13:42 <willcooke> which looks like a cups issue? 13:42 <seb128> willcooke, that one was also in the bionic report 13:42 <seb128> it looks like it's being handled by the sustain team already 13:42 <seb128> I would just assign all the lines to Victor 13:43 <seb128> or Eric 13:43 <willcooke> ok, I will do that after the meeting 13:43 <seb128> willcooke, nfs is fix commited or are you talking about another line? 13:43 <seb128> (we skip over those usually since that's = handled already) 13:43 <tkamppeter> This one is already assigned to Victor. 13:43 <willcooke> I was talking about the Eric one 13:43 <willcooke> my bad 13:43 <willcooke> oki, so that all looks ok then 13:43 <willcooke> #topic Disco Bugs 13:43 <seb128> the libnfs one is the same as bionic, right 13:44 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html 13:44 <willcooke> All already assigned. Except that we should reassign the tracker-miners one probably 13:45 <seb128> we need to +1/-1 serie nominations though 13:45 <tdaitx> willcooke: sorry to intrude, 1814133 is a bug that we used to track the openjdk-11 transition to bionic, please don't reuse it, create a new bug instead, thanks ;-) 13:45 <andyrock> the fix is already upstream 13:45 <andyrock> for tracker-miners 13:45 <seb128> I vote +1 for the tracker one 13:45 <seb128> it's fine to have andy assigned, he did the work, I can do the uploading 13:45 <andyrock> iirc I linked the fix in the bug report 13:45 <willcooke> ok 13:46 <willcooke> next: 13:46 <andyrock> seb128: let me know if you need some help with that, the fix targeted tracker 2.2 but it should apply without problems in 2.1.8 13:46 <seb128> bug #1823464 looks like it just needs untagging since it got accepted in a previous meeting 13:46 <ubot5`> bug 1823464 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Disco) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in disco (s390x only)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823464 13:46 <willcooke> done 13:46 <seb128> willcooke, we still didn't review the list to accept/reject the items 13:47 <seb128> the list is still going to be in that state next week if we don't do that... 13:47 <willcooke> that's what we're doing now? 13:47 <seb128> incoming is about ack/nack 13:47 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1813716 13:47 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1813716 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_x11_display_get_xdisplay → detach_pixmap → meta_surface_actor_x11_dispose → g_object_unref → ObjectInstance → → release_native_object" [High,In progress] 13:47 <Trevinho> compositore crash is instead something happening in restart but is our top in errors.u.c. However not upstreamed yet. But got a +1 review so far. 13:47 <seb128> ah, I though your next was another item 13:47 <willcooke> +1 for that shell crash 13:47 <seb128> +1 for rls 13:48 <willcooke> motion carried 13:49 <willcooke> +1 for ee too then 13:49 <seb128> (still about bug #1823464, kenvandine can you talk to jamesh about it, he seems to have been ignoring him, I wouldn't be surprised he overlooked the bug assignement/launchpad email) 13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1823464 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Disco) "gnome-keyring ftbfs in disco (s390x only)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823464 13:49 <seb128> willcooke, +1 13:49 <kenvandine> i emailed him about it and never heard back 13:49 <kenvandine> it's on my list for our 1:1 this week 13:50 <Laney> Trevinho: get that merged now, we can include it in this upload I am doing atm 13:50 <seb128> kenvandine, thx 13:50 <willcooke> next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1826933 13:50 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1826933 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashes in meta_monitor_mode_get_resolution -> calculate_scale -> meta_monitor_calculate_mode_scale derive_calculated_global_scale -> meta_monitor_manager_rebuild_logical_monitors_derived" [Medium,In progress] 13:50 <willcooke> Not sure how that manifests itself 13:51 <Trevinho> Laney: no maintainer ack yet, I expect can involve some more time then 13:51 <Laney> ask 13:51 <Laney> (you got a comment from Carlos) 13:52 <willcooke> Trevinho, re: #1826933 are you +1 on rls tagging that? Is it a big deal? 13:52 <willcooke> shell crash, sounds like it is 13:53 <willcooke> anyone got any feelings about it? 13:53 <willcooke> +1 from me 13:53 <seb128> +1, sounds like worth fixing 13:53 <Laney> it's going to be in the upload 13:54 <Laney> just nominate it, that is needed for the SRU anyway 13:54 * Laney wouldn't have tagged that one 13:54 <Trevinho> willcooke: yes, I've already proposed the fix in the merge Laney is handling 13:54 <willcooke> k, thx 13:55 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html 13:55 <willcooke> DD tracking is actually all up to date, the report is just a little old 13:56 <seb128> willcooke, bug #1826182 has no assignee for disco? 13:56 <willcooke> #topic Eoan bugs 13:56 <ubot5`> bug 1826182 in mutter (Ubuntu Eoan) "[DisplayLink][fixed upstream] GNOME libmutter crash on hotplugging a dock with a monitor" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1826182 13:56 <willcooke> Trevinho, can you take that one>? ^ 13:57 <Trevinho> willcooke: already taken too 13:57 <seb128> trevinho, no you didn't, or launchpad disagreed 13:57 <willcooke> he did now 13:57 <seb128> ah, now 13:57 <willcooke> since I updated it 13:57 <willcooke> :) 13:57 <seb128> when he said so it was still not commited :;p 13:57 <seb128> thx 13:57 <Trevinho> seb128: I meant it's in the upload IIRC. 13:57 <willcooke> Looks like the ee reports are missing, anyone know who I should ask to fix that? 13:58 <seb128> let me ask bdmurray 13:58 <Trevinho> willcooke: I was about asking the same 13:58 <willcooke> thanks seb128 13:58 <willcooke> Is there another way to see them easily? 13:58 <willcooke> them = bugs 13:58 <jibel> launchpad advanced search 13:58 <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=rls-ee-incoming 13:59 <Trevinho> also andyrock had an issue when they were added to incoming but... (can't remember all the conditions) 13:59 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bug/1798790 13:59 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1798790 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu login screen never appears when using the Nvidia driver (and setting WaylandEnable=false fixes it)" [High,Confirmed] 13:59 <andyrock> if the bug if fix-released for every target and you tag rls-xx-incoming 13:59 <andyrock> the bug will not be added to the list 14:00 <seb128> willcooke, +1 to accept, Laney redirected zyga to upstream earlier 14:00 <andyrock> I think this would be useful to target as rls-bug something we want to sru 14:00 <Laney> dunno that the first follows on from the second 14:01 <willcooke> Seems like an important one to fix, so I'd be +1 14:01 <didrocks> I need to find if that's the same bug I raised a cycle ago upstream 14:02 <willcooke> so do we pass that one for now? 14:02 <seb128> I vote +1 to nominate it 14:02 <seb128> dunno about others 14:02 <didrocks> no, that was a different bug 14:02 <seb128> it seems an important issue, especially as we get closer from the next LTS 14:02 <didrocks> +1 for me 14:02 <willcooke> ok, done 14:02 <seb128> Laney, you hinted zyga toward upstream, can you maybe own it? you also have some gdm experience 14:03 <Laney> shrug 14:03 <seb128> the other one would probably be Trevinho who is quite loaded with other bugs atm 14:03 <Laney> guess so 14:03 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/duplicity/+bug/1440372 14:03 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1440372 in duplicity (Ubuntu) "please port duplicity to Python3" [Medium,In progress] 14:03 <seb128> sorry... 14:03 <seb128> thx! 14:03 <seb128> willcooke, +1 to accept, I can own it 14:03 <Laney> I was helping to triage, don't like that this leads to owning in the end 14:03 <Laney> but maybe it makes separate sense 14:03 <seb128> Laney, I was going to ask you anyway, I put that on my notes yesterday 14:03 <seb128> so don't feel like the triaging help is what hinted the outcome 14:04 <seb128> I think we have you and, Trevinho basically who understand gdm's code atm 14:04 <seb128> and Trevinho is too busy 14:04 * Laney isn't busy? 14:04 <seb128> too 14:04 <Laney> anyway, seems fine 14:04 <seb128> well, I try to balance 14:04 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1801383 14:04 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1801383 in linux (Ubuntu) "the WifiSyslog apport hook (used in firefox/tb) includes SSID informations" [Undecided,Confirmed] 14:04 <seb128> thx 14:04 <willcooke> oSoMoN, you did the ffox part for that ^ 14:04 <oSoMoN> that one is for me 14:05 <willcooke> for tbird too? 14:05 <oSoMoN> yes 14:05 <seb128> thxc oSoMoN 14:05 <willcooke> thx 14:05 <willcooke> ok, afaict thats it for us 14:06 <jibel> there is bug 1826844 I'd like to have fixed 14:06 <ubot5`> bug 1826844 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu) "nvidia-drivers-* are not on the ISO" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1826844 14:06 <jibel> it's a matter of adding them to ship-live but I'd like to sure there is no issue with the license 14:06 <willcooke> jibel, you want me to work on the licensing question? 14:07 <jibel> willcooke, if you want, sure 14:07 <seb128> trello card material rather than rls bug? 14:07 <jibel> they would be on the pool of the iso not in the squashfs 14:07 <jibel> k, I'll add a card too 14:07 <willcooke> yeah, +1 for trello 14:07 <willcooke> and to untag 14:07 <jibel> can I have both 14:07 <jibel> ? :) 14:08 <jibel> I love bugs 14:08 <willcooke> you can, but should you? 14:08 <willcooke> all Im talking about here is untagging it from e 14:08 <willcooke> the bug can and should still exist 14:08 <jibel> target it 14:08 <seb128> well we don't even know if it's valid 14:08 <seb128> until we resolve the license question 14:09 <willcooke> not sure about this one, doesnt seem like a release blocker to me 14:09 <willcooke> it's been broken for ages 14:09 <willcooke> I totally think we should fix it though 14:10 <seb128> I don't know enough to understand how new the issue is and if it's a regression and when it started 14:10 <seb128> yeah, same 14:10 <Laney> not everything has to be a release bug 14:10 <Laney> NEXTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 14:10 <seb128> I would vote -1 for rls 14:10 <willcooke> that ^ 14:10 <seb128> assign + trello 14:10 <seb128> imho 14:10 <willcooke> I'm taking it 14:10 <willcooke> Right, I propose that's the end of the bugs 14:11 <willcooke> seb128, did I miss anything 14:11 <seb128> not that I can see 14:11 <willcooke> ok 14:11 <willcooke> thx 14:11 <willcooke> #topic AOB 14:11 <willcooke> I have a topic 14:11 <willcooke> More bugs!!! 14:11 <seb128> btw bdmurray replied, he's doing the changes to get the rls-ee reports 14:11 <willcooke> woot 14:11 <seb128> :) 14:12 <seb128> more bugs? :- 14:12 <seb128> :-( 14:12 <willcooke> So, off the back of the OEM meetings last week we will have some more bugs coming our way via the OEM team 14:12 <willcooke> at the moment, I meet with the OEM team once every two weeks. Thats been going fine, but can be a bottle neck and the bus factor 14:13 <willcooke> so as well as that meeting, they will also start tagging bugs that they think are important 14:13 <willcooke> I think we should do the same process as for rls bugs 14:13 <willcooke> so next week, or maybe the week after, I'll add a new section to the meeting where we can look at the OEM bugs and assign them as needed 14:13 <Trevinho> can't just they use the same tagging and assign to oem project too? 14:14 <seb128> ? 14:14 <seb128> I don't understand, I though we asked them to use the rls-nn-incoming process a while ago when we discussed oem bugs 14:14 <seb128> wouldn't it make more sense to just use the same process rather than inventing a new one? 14:15 <willcooke> quite possibly 14:15 <willcooke> I'm going to do a few dummy runs with them, so I'll try and do it with rls bugs as normal and see how it goes 14:16 <didrocks> shouldn't there be a way to know it's coming from oem? 14:16 <didrocks> (so maybe an additional tag + rls- ones) 14:16 <didrocks> or oem-priority 14:16 <Trevinho> yeah indeed adding the oem project or a tag and then underline it in the rls page would be nice 14:17 <willcooke> ok, lets try that and see how it goes, we can tweak as we go 14:17 <seb128> oem has way to let us know 14:17 <seb128> description 14:18 <seb128> oem-priority 14:18 <seb128> comments 14:18 <seb128> I don't think that's going to be a problem 14:18 <seb128> but yeah, let's iterate and see if we have practical issues 14:18 <willcooke> yeah 14:18 <willcooke> good 14:18 <willcooke> ok, that's all I got for now 14:18 <willcooke> Anyone else? 14:19 <seb128> not really 14:19 <willcooke> going once 14:19 <seb128> I wonder if we should start gettting organized for next cycle 14:19 <seb128> but that's probably good via email/next meeting 14:19 <willcooke> seb128, yeah you and I should talk this week 14:19 <willcooke> I was planning to do it in the meeting on Weds, but... 14:19 <seb128> I did email my team asking people to start thinking about that 14:20 <willcooke> so Thursday will have to be the day 14:20 <seb128> and try to deal with SRU/look at tech debt and how to reduce it meanwhile 14:20 <seb128> but yeah 14:20 <seb128> sry :) 14:20 <kenvandine> +1 14:20 <willcooke> we picked up some small work from Taipei, nothing major 14:20 <seb128> worker day, celebrated by not working! :) 14:20 <willcooke> typical French 14:20 <willcooke> XD 14:20 <willcooke> ok, lets wrap. 14:20 <willcooke> longest meeting ever 14:21 <willcooke> #endmeeting