13:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-04-10
13:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr 10 13:30:07 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:30 <jibel> seb128, it is not on the image and has been demoted to universe, that explains the lack of a11y support
13:30 <jibel> o/
13:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
13:30 <didrocks> hey
13:30 <seb128> jibel, it shouldn't, the indicator is not needed
13:30 <kenvandine> o/
13:30 <andyrock> hey
13:30 <seb128> let's discuss after the meeting
13:30 <seb128> hey!
13:30 <jibel> seb128, lets talk after the meeting
13:31 <willcooke> So this week I'll try to do it properly.  We'll go down the list and please comment on if you have any rls bugs and what the status of them is.  Then at the end we'll go through the new ones, decide if they are rls bugs or not and assign if needed.
13:31 <oSoMoN> o/
13:32 <willcooke> And to make things a bit easuer, I have a URL for each of you
13:32 <willcooke> (I think)(
13:32 <willcooke> Looks like we have enough people to get started
13:32 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
13:32 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=andyrock
13:33 <andyrock> Rls bugs:
13:33 <andyrock> - LP: #1762082 (Fix released!)
13:33 <andyrock> - LP: #1760117 (Fix released!)
13:33 <andyrock> Others:
13:33 <andyrock> - Completed:
13:33 <andyrock> - Fix for LP: #1760858 merged upstream (https://github.com/Guake/guake/commit/3593b9d6e12c984338903f6610a23317cd4e5d9a)
13:33 <andyrock> - Fix for LP: #1760096
13:33 <andyrock> - Merged the work done for livepatch page in ubuntu-welcome
13:33 <andyrock> - WIP:
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1762082 in software-properties (Ubuntu Bionic) "software-properties-common 0.96.24.24 bloats dependencies on server" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762082
13:33 <andyrock> - Proposed fix for LP: #1761569
13:33 <andyrock> - Updated fix for LP: #1749007 after response from squashfs
13:33 <andyrock> - Fix proposed for LP: #1761841 - review in progress
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1760117 in software-properties (Ubuntu Bionic) "software-properties-gtk installs canonical-livepatch from edge" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1760117
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1760858 in guake (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/guake:UnboundLocalError:on_window_halign_value_changed" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1760858
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1760096 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk:GLib.GError:/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk@101:__init__:init_livepatch:__init__:_load" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1760096
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1761569 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Live Patch page doesn't correctly handle existing setup" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761569
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1749007 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "Snap mounts should be hidden from System Monitor" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749007
13:33 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1761841 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "Notification for livepatch are not shown." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761841
13:33 <andyrock> EOW
13:33 <andyrock> just the first two are rls bugs (already completed!)
13:33 <andyrock> - fix proposed for LP: #1759468 (rejected for the moment, I'll continue the conversation with upstream later today)
13:33 <andyrock> Reviews:
13:33 <andyrock> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/migrate-gnome-desktop-files/+merge/342685
13:34 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1759468 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "gnome-control-center (11) gtk_style_context_clear_property_cache → gtk_css_widget_node_update_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_ensure_style → gtk_css_node_validate_internal" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759468
13:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock, just reading that squashfs one
13:34 <willcooke> will continue to read later.
13:34 <willcooke> thanks
13:34 <willcooke> confirmed that your rls list is empty, good stuff
13:35 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
13:35 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=didrocks
13:35 <didrocks> hey!
13:35 <didrocks> Telemetry:
13:35 <didrocks> * Last evolution of C API for sysmetrics requested by Robert: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-report/1.0.3
13:35 <didrocks> Communitheme:
13:35 <didrocks> * Add snap support to communitheme.
13:35 <didrocks> * Craft snapcraft.yaml and CI system so that every push to any of master project (one of the 5 projects for communitheme) create a new unique snap. Also, ensure any PR+following commits create a branch snap for people to test. Comments automatically generated on github.
13:35 <didrocks> * Factor out those build tools in https://github.com/ubuntu/communitheme-snap-helpers for easier maintainance
13:35 <didrocks> * Communicate and coordinate our plan with the core communitheme team via the hub: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/snapping-communitheme/4890. Some of them now have realease management rights!
13:35 <didrocks> * Found along the way some snapcraft release bug + documentation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1761127
13:35 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1761127 in Snapcraft "On Travis (not a real vte), releasing to a branch name during snapcraft push prints a stacktrace" [High,Fix committed]
13:35 <didrocks> * Prepare blog post resulting in https://didrocks.fr/2018/04/10/welcome-to-the-ubuntu-bionic-age-new-wip-ubuntu-theme-as-a-
13:35 <didrocks> No rls bug
13:35 <didrocks> .
13:35 <didrocks> (last link is https://didrocks.fr/2018/04/10/welcome-to-the-ubuntu-bionic-age-new-wip-ubuntu-theme-as-a-snap/)
13:35 <willcooke> great blog post
13:35 <willcooke> thanks didrocks
13:35 <didrocks> thx ;)
13:35 <willcooke> confirmed that your rls list is empty
13:35 <willcooke> #topic duflu
13:36 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=vanvugt
13:36 <willcooke> * Gnome Shell memory usage:
13:36 <willcooke> - BIG NEWS: The main leak in gnome-shell (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672297) has a fix coming upstream, surprisingly in GJS. So even perfectly written JS and GObject code in gnome-shell was still leaking, thanks to GJS (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gjs/merge_requests/114). We'll definitely grab that as soon as something lands.
13:36 <willcooke> - Massive texture leak from last week; seems to have vanished after Easter!? (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/160) Although I would expect the GJS fix to probably resolve it, based on where I got up to.
13:36 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1672297 in gjs (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [High,Triaged]
13:36 <willcooke> * Gnome Shell performance fixes:
13:36 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 114 in gjs "WIP: Queue a GC when a toggle reference goes from >1 to 1" (comments: 7) [Opened]
13:36 <willcooke> - Made another serious attempt at reducing gnome-shell's CPU requirement. Click through for some exciting numbers: (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/merge_requests/73)
13:36 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 160 in gnome-shell "st_widget_paint_background leaks about 5MB of textures every time I open/close the activities overview" (comments: 7) [Closed]
13:36 <ubot5`> Error: Gnome bug 160 could not be found
13:36 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 73 in gnome-shell "js/ui: Choose some actors to cache on the GPU" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:36 <willcooke> - Clutter master clock fix to improve smoothness and increase frame rates (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/70): Upstream finally woke up and started commenting on the previous version. But after I implemented the trivial docs change they requested, found another bug. So then spent a day redesigning the algorithm.
13:36 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 70 in mutter "clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:36 <willcooke> - Relevant note from last week: My first improvement to Wayland graphics performance is due for imminent release with mutter 3.28.1 this week.
13:36 <willcooke> * Bluetooth:
13:36 <willcooke> - The main complaint this week turned out to be a non-bug. Users often mistake benign log messages for being related to other problems they experience. (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1754836)
13:36 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1749546 in Fontconfig "duplicate for #1754836 Booting a live session is slow - fontconfig regenerates its font cache" [Medium,Confirmed]
13:36 <willcooke> * Libinput:
13:36 <willcooke> - More time spent hardware testing and updating bugs.
13:36 <willcooke> - NEWS: v1.10.4 has been tagged upstream, with a good improvement in responsiveness for many touchpads (because I kept reporting bugs upstream and identified what needed backporting). IMHO though it's still only half as good as what's in master (future v1.11).
13:37 <willcooke> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
13:37 <willcooke> - Pleasing progress this week: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
13:38 <willcooke> No mention of that bug above I think
13:38 <willcooke> kk, lets speak to duflu in the morning about that one
13:38 <seb128> right
13:39 <willcooke> lots to read there too, will do that in amo
13:39 <willcooke> #topic jbicha
13:39 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=jbicha
13:39 <jbicha> • Filed multiple gnome-initial-setup (ubuntu-welcome) bugs
13:39 <jbicha> • Customized gnome-initial-setup's logo and name https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/18.04.2
13:39 <jbicha> • Completely dropped the imagemagick .desktop to fix multiple issues
13:39 <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/imagemagick/8:6.9.7.4+dfsg-16ubuntu6
13:39 <jbicha> • Split gnome-startup-applications to separate binary pkg to allow it to be uninstalled LP: #1756788
13:39 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1756788 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "Removing "Startup Applications" in "Ubuntu Software" makes the system unable to launch GDM" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756788
13:39 <jbicha> • Allowed totem to be uninstallable from GNOME Software
13:39 <jbicha> • Built bionic's webkit2gtk with gstreamergl, fixing unpausing videos LP: #1752197
13:39 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1752197 in webkit2gtk (Ubuntu Artful) "Videos won't resume after being paused" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752197
13:39 <jbicha> • GNOME 3.28.1 releases
13:39 <jbicha> • Announced call for nominations for DMB
13:39 <jbicha> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2018-April/001241.html
13:39 <jbicha> • No current bionic rls tracking bugs
13:39 <jbicha> 🌄
13:40 <willcooke> confirmed your rls list is empty.  Thanks jbicha
13:40 <willcooke> #topic jamesh
13:40 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=jamesh
13:40 <willcooke> snapd:
13:40 <willcooke> * finished a secure bind mount implementation that passed Jamie's
13:40 <willcooke> security review: we carefully open file descriptors for the mount
13:40 <willcooke> source and destination, and then perform a mount between
13:40 <willcooke> "/proc/self/fd/NNN" paths, which avoids all the symlink attacks.
13:40 <willcooke> * Rebased my old user-mounts branch to filter out the parts that have
13:40 <willcooke> been landed separately.  Combining this with the secure bind mount
13:40 <willcooke> implementation, and I think we've removed all the blockers for landing
13:40 <willcooke> it.  We will then be able to properly support xdg-document-portal
13:40 <willcooke> (i.e. trusted helper file open/save dialogs)
13:40 <willcooke> * I still need to follow up on theming: it isn't clear when we can
13:40 <willcooke> expect the snapcraft features to avoid including boilerplate plug
13:40 <willcooke> declarations.  Perhaps the best option is to publish gtk-common-themes
13:40 <willcooke> along with information about what boilerplate an app developer needs
13:40 <willcooke> to include to access the themes.
13:40 <willcooke> community:
13:40 <willcooke> * I'm giving a talk about confined apps on the Ubuntu desktop at
13:40 <willcooke> tonight's PLUG meeting.
13:40 <willcooke> rls list is empty.
13:41 <willcooke> #topic jibel
13:41 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=jibel
13:41 <jibel> * Bionic Beta 2 testing
13:41 <jibel> * Verified the fontconfig fix. Boot speed improved by 130s on a test machine (64s against 194s without the fix)
13:41 <jibel> * Reviewed and verified fixes in Ubiquity to have ttys in maybe-ubiquity and only-ubiquity modes.
13:41 <jibel> * Release bugs:
13:41 <jibel> - Bug 1741690
13:41 <ubot5`> bug 1741690 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "You can't enable the Orca screen reader until after you click "Try Ubuntu" on Ubuntu bionic" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741690
13:41 <jibel> - Bug 1758647
13:41 <ubot5`> bug 1758647 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758647
13:41 <jibel> eof
13:41 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=heber
13:41 <willcooke> lists empty
13:41 <willcooke> jibel, should that orca bug be a rls blocker?
13:42 <jibel> willcooke, yes, I think so
13:42 <willcooke> it's already targeted
13:42 <jibel> it's an lts
13:42 <seb128> it is one no?
13:42 <jibel> without a11y support it'd be a major feature missing
13:42 <seb128> jibel, the idea of listing the release bugs is also to give a status update of them
13:43 <jibel> I just started on it
13:43 <seb128> k, that's the status then
13:43 <seb128> should be next to the bug number in the summary :)
13:43 <jibel> so the status is ... investigating where it's broken :)
13:43 <jibel> okay
13:43 <willcooke> I wonder why it's not showing in that list
13:44 <seb128> what list?
13:44 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=jibel
13:45 <seb128> it does?
13:45 <seb128> the orca one
13:45 <seb128> the second one is assigned to me in launchpad
13:45 <willcooke> ohm
13:45 <willcooke> reload and there it is
13:46 <willcooke> ok, ignore
13:46 <willcooke> :)
13:46 <willcooke> thanks jibel
13:46 <seb128> he said he was going to poke at it but we didn't reasign (yet)
13:46 <jibel> and I'd like to steal the second one from seb128 since I'm the installer I can have a look.
13:46 <jibel> I'm on* the
13:46 <willcooke> thanks
13:46 <willcooke> please assign as needed
13:46 <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
13:46 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=ken-vandine
13:46 <kenvandine> * More progress on XDG User Dirs handling, I need to make some changes based on review feedback https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
13:46 <kenvandine> * Fixed a bug in the bindtextdomain LD_PRELOAD branch which gets us fully translated gtk dialogs https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/106
13:46 <kenvandine> * Merged CI snap builds of gnome-software into our ubuntu-master branch.  We'll now get automated builds in the edge channel.
13:46 <kenvandine> * No assigned rls bugs
13:46 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 4) [Open]
13:47 <kenvandine> ⚾
13:47 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 106 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "LD_PRELOAD bindtextdomain to load translations from multiple paths" (comments: 0) [Open]
13:47 <willcooke> confirmed rls list is empy
13:47 <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
13:47 <willcooke> #topic Laney
13:47 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=laney
13:47 <Laney> • looked into volume-key test failure, fixed one thing when run interactively but it still fails when run from the build
13:47 <Laney> • cleaned out all old ~ubuntu-release bugs
13:47 <Laney> • reviewed some freeze exception requests
13:47 <Laney> • reviewed a ton of uploads in the queue
13:47 <Laney> • rls bugs:
13:47 <Laney> ∘ http://launchpad.net/bugs/1747717 doesn't happen any more, marked as Incomplete so hopefully will go away
13:47 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1747717 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu Bionic) "package gnome-menus 3.13.3-11ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: triggers looping, abandoned - gnome-menus -> ufw" [High,Incomplete]
13:47 <Laney> ∘ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/1749546 - patched and uploaded
13:47 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1749546 in Fontconfig "Booting a live session is slow - fontconfig regenerates its font cache" [Medium,Confirmed]
13:47 <Laney> • fixed dh_translations to work with meson/ninja builds (only if there is one domain present for now)
13:48 <Laney> • Merged poppler to fix build failure (http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ftbfs/rebuilds/test-rebuild-20180408-bionic.html)
13:48 <Laney> • Updated glib patch for GNetworkMonitor proxy test failure, is now committed
13:48 <Laney> • Had a look at the ubuntu-welcome thing and reported some issues
13:48 <Laney> ☔
13:48 <willcooke> thanks Laney
13:48 <willcooke> nothing else showing in the rls list
13:48 <willcooke> nice one
13:48 <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN
13:48 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=oSoMoN
13:48 <oSoMoN> hey
13:48 <oSoMoN> • firefox: discussed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1449594#c9 with upstream and Jamie, suggested to continue the discussion on the existing forum thread (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/xorg-abstract-socket-is-mandatory-for-running-snaps/4580)
13:48 <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.mozilla.org bug 1449594 in Security: Process Sandboxing "[snap] Searching for any webpage immediately produces 'Gah. Your tab just crashed.'" [Blocker, Resolved: Fixed] - Assigned to jlorenzo
13:48 <ubot5`> Mozilla bug 1449594 in Security: Process Sandboxing "[snap] Searching for any webpage immediately produces 'Gah. Your tab just crashed.'" [Blocker,Resolved: fixed]
13:48 <ubot5`> bug 1449594 in messaging-app (Ubuntu Vivid) "messaging app missing some messages and showing duplicates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1449594
13:48 <oSoMoN> • chromium
13:48 <oSoMoN> ∘ pushed new revision to candidate channel with ibus support, then promoted to stable channel
13:48 <oSoMoN> ∘ working in the background on updating beta and dev branches, but upstream's aggressive push for modern C++ features means it's getting increasingly difficult to get chromium to build on xenial, let alone trusty
13:49 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ added ibus support to the snap (and to all snaps using the desktop-gtk* launchers in general, this requires a rebuild to work)
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ pushed 6.0.3.2 snap to candidate channel and updated call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-3/4604), then promoted to stable channel
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ successfully tested 5.4.6 SRU in artful-proposed (bug #1759404)
13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1759404 in libreoffice-l10n (Ubuntu Artful) "[SRU] libreoffice 5.4.6 for artful" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759404
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ cleaned up bug #1034558 and bug #1034560 (obsolete MIRs for libreoffice-report-builder)
13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1034558 in pentaho-reporting-flow-engine (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libbase-java, libsac-java, libxml-java, libflute-java, libpentaho-reporting-flow-engine-java" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034558
13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1034560 in libserializer (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libloader-java, libformula-java, librepository-java, libfonts-java, libserializer-java " [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034560
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ reverted a change that removed the libreoffice-startcenter.desktop altogether after some users of the PPA complained
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ prepared and tested 6.0.3 upload for bionic, asked Ken/Séb to sponsor
13:49 <oSoMoN> • snaps
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed bug #1761585, submitted a fix upstream (https://github.com/ibus/ibus/pull/1997) which was merged and then backported to the ubuntu package as a patch, and prepared a xenial SRU, currently in xenial-proposed
13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1761585 in ibus (Ubuntu Xenial) "ibus_bus_init does an unconditional call to chmod on $HOME/.config/ibus/bus" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1761585
13:49 <ubot5-ng> ibus bug (Pull request) 1997 in ibus "Make the call to chmod in ibus_bus_init conditional (fixes #1996)." (comments: 0) [Closed]
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ tested and reviewed https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
13:49 <oSoMoN> ∘ started using communitheme snap, reported GTK2 apps not themed and https://github.com/ubuntu/gtk-communitheme/issues/324
13:49 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 4) [Open]
13:49 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug 324 in gtk-communitheme "Chromium tabs outline is almost black when window not focused, looks very strong" (comments: 0) [Open]
13:49 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 324 in mailman (Ubuntu) "Upgrades fail with a message about "Old queue files present"" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324
13:49 <oSoMoN> • rls-bb: looked into bug #1754671 to understand the upstream status - there's active development ongoing and it looks close to landing to master, after which it would need backporting to the 1.10 series
13:49 <ubot5`> bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754671
13:49 <oSoMoN> 🐛
13:49 <willcooke> nice work, thanks oSoMoN
13:49 <willcooke> confirmed that's the only rls bug
13:50 <willcooke> #topic seb128
13:50 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=seb128
13:50 <seb128> • sponsoring (software-properties/livepatch fixes from andyroc_k, udisks segfault fix from andyroc_k)
13:50 <seb128> • restored the ctrl-shift-U ibus behaviour and talked with GNOME upstream about it - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/1760308
13:50 <seb128> • tested the gnome-initial-setup/ubuntu welcome work, did some packaging tweaks in the ppa
13:50 <seb128> • some code reviews (software-properties changes from andyroc_k, ibus SRU from Olivier)
13:50 <seb128> • updated gnome-disk-utility
13:50 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1760308 in ibus (Ubuntu Bionic) "Unicode input not working on Bionic with CTRL-SHIFT-U" [High,Fix released]
13:50 <seb128> • started fighting with ubiquity/casper-bottom to try to debug some of the installer issues
13:50 <seb128> • incoming bugs triaging, IRC discussions (ibus, snaps/gtk translations, gnome-initial-setup)
13:50 <seb128> • bionic milestoned bugs
13:50 <seb128> ∘ bug #1726143, Tim uploaded the change to not try to install an inexistant package, I need to look what else we can do this cycle or if we should postpone the extra work to integrate smb users to system ones
13:50 <ubot5`> bug 1726143 in nautilus-share (Ubuntu Bionic) "Automatic installation of samba fails with "could not find package libpam-smbpass"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1726143
13:50 <seb128> ∘ bug #1735929, 1 fix uploaded to Ubuntu and 1 commit upstream waiting for GNOME 3.28.1 to be uploaded
13:50 <ubot5`> bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1
13:50 <ubot5`> bug 1735929 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Bionic) "security problems with incorrect permissions for ubuntu 17.10" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735929
13:50 <seb128> ∘ bug #1758647, I confirmed it's an issue but didn't figure out the problem yet, also jibel said he could have a look some maybe it ends up being reassigned
13:50 <ubot5`> bug 1758647 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubiquity doesn't preselect the right default keyboard layout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758647
13:50 <seb128> </week>
13:51 <Laney> what did gnome say about the ibus thing?
13:51 <seb128> mclasen was annoyed
13:51 <seb128> he said he would email the ibus guys
13:51 <seb128> but he did by private so I can't follow the status :/
13:52 <seb128> he also said that keeps happening and that the solution is for gnome-shell to provide those features/dialog directly
13:52 <Laney> haha
13:52 <seb128> and not rely on ibus behaviours
13:52 <willcooke> confirmed no other rls bugs
13:52 <willcooke> thanks seb128
13:52 <seb128> thx :)
13:52 <Laney> at least he agrees
13:52 <Laney> thx!
13:52 <seb128> yw!
13:52 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
13:52 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=till-kamppeter
13:53 <tkamppeter> - CUPS: Got crasher bug report, upstream fixed it within an hour, fix is uploade into Bionic now. Too quick for getting an rls bug.
13:53 <tkamppeter> - cups-browsed: Uploaded some more bug fixes, especially for recognition of remote CUPS queues.
13:53 <tkamppeter> - brlaser (printer driver for Brother): Posted FFe request for upstream version 4, got approved.
13:53 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Lined up all student project proposals (especially the non-OpenPrinting ones) for the Linux Foundation and requested the appropriate number of student slots from Google (8 OpenPrinting, 19 total).
13:53 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
13:53 <willcooke> No rls bugs
13:53 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
13:53 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
13:53 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=3v1n0
13:54 <willcooke> Might be too early for Trevinho, seb128 do you have an update?
13:54 <seb128> ah, I do
13:54 <seb128> · Appindicator work, merged various fixes upstream:
13:54 <seb128> - https://is.gd/I8XaAa
13:54 <seb128> · Mutter SSD theme and HiDPI fixes:
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/61
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/62
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/63
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/64
13:54 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 61 in mutter "theme, frames: Use surface device scale instead of cairo_scale" (comments: 8) [1. Bug, Opened]
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/66
13:54 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 62 in mutter "theme: Use gtk_render_icon_suface to paint button icons" (comments: 1) [Opened]
13:54 <seb128> Merged and cherry-picked:
13:54 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 63 in mutter "theme: Allow to override the theme using GTK_THEME env variable" (comments: 9) [Opened]
13:54 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 64 in mutter "theme, settings: Get global scaling from GDK_SCALE if set" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/58
13:54 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 66 in mutter "WIP: theme: Render elements in groups supporting opacity" (comments: 0) [Opened]
13:54 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/60
13:55 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 58 in mutter "theme: Scale titlebar spacing when computing x" (comments: 2) [Merged]
13:55 <seb128> · Random snap work:
13:55 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 60 in mutter "theme: Add ".appmenu" class to the appmenu button" (comments: 3) [Merged]
13:55 <seb128> - https://github.com/diodon-dev/diodon/pull/8
13:55 <ubot5-ng> diodon-dev bug (Pull request) 8 in diodon "WIP: snap: add basic snap build" (comments: 0) [Open]
13:55 <seb128> - Remmina fixes: https://is.gd/vWTLJR
13:55 <seb128> - Telegram fixes: https://is.gd/XULrm8
13:55 <seb128> - Continued review of
13:55 <seb128> https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
13:55 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 4) [Open]
13:55 <seb128> · Working on nautilus recent search provider review (g-s will follow):
13:55 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/98
13:55 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 98 in nautilus "Recent Files search provider" (comments: 18) [1. Feature, 5. Search, Opened]
13:55 <seb128> he didn't provide a status of his rls bugs though
13:55 <willcooke> kk, lemme take a quick look
13:55 <seb128> I need to remind him to do that next time
13:55 <seb128> he mentioned that he was looking at the nautilus one this week
13:55 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/nautilus/+bug/1756826
13:55 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1756826 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "hangs when locate search provider matches a lot of files" [High,Triaged]
13:56 <willcooke> sounds like he's on it
13:56 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/1758712
13:56 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1758712 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Bionic) "GNOME Builder Omnibar theming issue with Ambiance" [High,Triaged]
13:56 <willcooke> says he's got a fix
13:56 <Laney> probably commenting on the bug once a week would be an okay mechanism
13:56 <seb128> he didn't seem to have made progress for the other ones yet
13:56 <Laney> if any progress
13:56 <seb128> right
13:57 <willcooke> I expect he'll be on later, so we can ask about the others then
13:57 <Laney> people are pinging on that #1747566 pull request
13:57 <seb128> yeah
13:57 <seb128> right, I told him a few times to address upstream review comments
13:58 <seb128> he has a few changes that got a first review and where he's due to reply
13:58 <Laney> ya
13:58 * seb128 notes on his list to tell him again
13:58 <willcooke> thanks seb128
13:58 <seb128> np
13:58 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
13:58 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=robert-ancell
13:58 <willcooke> - Landed gnome-initial-setup first iteration into bionic https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/3.28.0-2ubuntu1
13:58 <willcooke> - Working on second iteration improvements to gnome-initial-setup
13:58 <willcooke> - Worked on landing paid snap support
13:58 <willcooke> - LightDM bug handling
13:58 <willcooke> - simple-scan 3.28.1 release
14:00 <willcooke> Looks like there are a few bugs which need looking at.  kenvandine - could you ask Robert about those if you see him later?
14:00 <kenvandine> willcooke, will do
14:00 <willcooke> #topic rls-bb-incoming
14:00 <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:00 <seb128> kenvandine, also the snapd-glib bugfix
14:00 <willcooke> seb128, spoke to him yesterday about that one
14:00 <kenvandine> seb128, he said he'd do a release of that
14:00 <willcooke> he's going to do a new release
14:00 <kenvandine> for xenial as well
14:00 <seb128> ah, good
14:00 <seb128> thx
14:00 <kenvandine> but he's not confident that fixes the leak
14:01 <kenvandine> but he does agree it's an improvement
14:01 <willcooke> First up:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1755064
14:01 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1755064 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashed with signal 5 in g_wakeup_new → g_main_context_new → pk_client_resolve → gs_plugin_packagekit_resolve_packages_with_filter → gs_plugin_packagekit_resolve_packages" [High,Confirmed]
14:02 <willcooke> jibel,  you tagged that one, is it happening a lot?
14:02 <seb128> willcooke, kenvandine, jibel, that's probably that snapd-glib issue...
14:02 <willcooke> just thinking that
14:02 <andyrock> indeed
14:02 <willcooke> I'll assign to Robert then
14:02 <jibel> willcooke, yes it is
14:02 <seb128> same difference :p
14:02 <willcooke> or should we mark as dupe?
14:02 <seb128> he's going to ignore it!
14:02 <jibel> willcooke, but it also shows the typical "Too mayn open files" signature
14:03 <seb128> willcooke, assign, Robert can mark as dup if he thinks that's one
14:03 <willcooke> doe
14:03 <willcooke> done
14:03 <seb128> thx
14:04 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1756339
14:04 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1756339 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashed with signal 5 in g_main_context_new → start_sync → snapd_client_list_one_sync → gs_plugin_refine_app → gs_plugin_loader_call_vfunc" [High,Confirmed]
14:04 <willcooke> same thing?
14:04 <andyrock> yep
14:04 <jibel> ys
14:04 <jibel> +e
14:04 <seb128> looks like it
14:04 <andyrock> when g_main_context_new is involved in the stacktrace it's likely the same problem
14:05 <jibel> and from errors.u.c
14:05 <jibel> msg = 0x7fc1502e3c10 "Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files\n"
14:05 <jibel> msg_alloc = 0x7fc1502e3c10 "Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many open files\n"
14:05 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1748450
14:05 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1748450 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in _g_log_abort() from g_log_default_handler() from default_log_handler(message="Connection to xwayland lost") from g_logv() from g_log() from <bug 1505409>" [High,Triaged]
14:06 <seb128> that one again?
14:06 <jibel> it happens very frequently when I unlock the screen
14:06 <willcooke> Looks like Daniel is looking at it?
14:06 <jibel> UI is frozen until gnome-shell restarts
14:07 <seb128> did you manage to get a backtrace from xwayland?
14:07 <jibel> no
14:07 <seb128> :(
14:08 <seb128> that bug is basically useless without somebody who can reproduce and get one
14:08 <jibel> each time it's gnome-shell crashing and I didn't find a way to reproduce it intentionally
14:08 <seb128> let's talk getting one after the meeting
14:08 <willcooke> kk
14:08 <Laney> nominate or not?
14:08 <willcooke> jibel, you want to take that one with a goal of getting a BT?
14:08 <seb128> I don't have an opinion on this one at this point
14:08 <willcooke> I think we should
14:09 <jibel> we can nominate but without a reproducer there is very little chance to fix it
14:09 <jibel> willcooke, yes
14:09 <willcooke> done
14:09 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1748450
14:09 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1748450 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in _g_log_abort() from g_log_default_handler() from default_log_handler(message="Connection to xwayland lost") from g_logv() from g_log() from <bug 1505409>" [High,Triaged]
14:10 <seb128> that's the one we just discussed
14:10 <willcooke> copy and paste
14:10 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1757321
14:10 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1757321 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "udisks2 must depend on libblockdev-crypto2 and libblockdev-mdraid2 instead of suggests [Can't mount encrypted USB drive after upgrade to bionic]" [High,Triaged]
14:11 <seb128> that's still sort of MIR stucked
14:11 <jbicha> jibel, if you need mdraid you need to get the MIRs filed for it
14:11 <seb128> MIR team did bounced a bit back on the failing tests as I was expecting
14:11 <seb128> and Laney is looking at those it seems
14:11 <Laney> only for volume-key
14:11 <Laney> That's one which is probably in our control
14:11 <seb128> skip again and see where we stand next week?
14:11 <Laney> for the others, not really
14:11 <Laney> it's been skipped for weeks and weeks
14:12 <Laney> either it's a release blocker and we should work on it, and liaise with other teams
14:12 <seb128> what do you suggest doing with it?
14:12 <Laney> or it's not
14:12 <Laney> first step is on our team to file the MIRs
14:12 <seb128> willcooke, jibel, how important are incrypted keys?
14:12 <seb128> encrypted
14:12 <willcooke> I think it should be worked on
14:12 <jibel> the main problem is more crypto2 than mdraid for people upgrading to bionic
14:12 <willcooke> like laney said, lets at least get MIRs done
14:13 <seb128> well MIR is inprocess with Laney looking at the test
14:13 <Laney> that's for one half of it
14:13 <Laney> not the mdraid bit
14:13 <Laney> that bug title specifies both
14:13 <seb128> do we need mdraid?
14:13 <seb128> I don't know enough about those techs to have an opinion on how required they are
14:13 <jibel> I've seen only one report from someone with kubuntu who faced the mdraid issue.
14:14 <seb128> well our bionic tester userbase is small
14:14 <jibel> other than a this poor experience I don't have an opinion
14:14 <jibel> yup
14:14 <seb128> it's more a question of how used/useful is mdraid for mainstream Ubuntu
14:14 <seb128> willcooke, ^ opinion ?
14:14 <jbicha> personally, I'm ok with it being a suggests, main promotion can be easily backported to bionic once approved, right?
14:15 <seb128> yes
14:15 <seb128> so retitling/purposing that bug for -crypto?
14:15 <Laney> we have the MIR for that
14:15 <seb128> which is being handling through the volume-key/MIR
14:16 <Laney> you can target that one if you like
14:16 <seb128> so you would mark it dup of the MIR?
14:16 <seb128> and target the MIR?
14:16 <seb128> wfm
14:16 <seb128> willcooke, ^
14:16 <willcooke> can someone target the MIR then and I will untag that bug
14:16 <willcooke> (is that right?)
14:18 <willcooke> seb128, ? ^ Is that right?
14:18 <Laney> if it's only libbytesize blocking that might be an easy MIR not requiring a security review btw
14:18 <Laney> https://github.com/storaged-project/libbytesize/blob/master/src/bs_size.h
14:19 <Laney> it could be notfixing
14:19 <seb128> willcooke, I'm a bit lost at this point
14:19 <seb128> seems more complicated that it should be :/
14:19 <Laney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volume-key/+bug/1754422 is targeted now
14:19 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu Bionic) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,In progress]
14:19 <seb128> we need the volume-key MIR approved, which needs tests fixed it seems
14:19 <Laney> that should get the luks bit
14:19 <seb128> then we can promote crypto
14:20 <seb128> then we need to decide what we think about mdraid
14:21 <seb128> willcooke, Laney suggested notfixing the other one, wfm
14:21 <willcooke> other one = #1757321 ?
14:21 <jbicha> in Debian, mdraid also wants thin-provisioning-tools (so a second MIR)
14:21 <seb128> willcooke, yes
14:22 <Nafallo> encrypted usb keys is definately something I'll use.
14:22 <Nafallo> sorry, just read through the meeting logs :-)
14:23 <Nafallo> 11:30 UTC every Tuesday? willcooke seb128
14:23 <willcooke> I'll update that in a sec, I've got too many tabs open
14:23 <willcooke> let's move on
14:23 <willcooke> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1761739
14:23 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1761739 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected" [High,Triaged]
14:24 <seb128> Nafallo, Nafallo add 2 hours
14:24 <willcooke> That's the intended action and I've spoken to various people about it and that's the way its going to work.  So I need to untag it
14:24 <jbicha> willcooke: just wontfix it then?
14:24 <didrocks> willcooke: I guess Laney/Robert wanted to get a better design being more explicit
14:24 <seb128> with a comment stating that
14:24 <willcooke> will do that in a mo
14:24 <Laney> I don't think "No, don't send any info" is acceptable in that case
14:25 <Laney> but notfixing is the right tag I guess, and even close the bug if it's not going to get any fix at all
14:25 <willcooke> Laney, ack we will improve the wording
14:25 <willcooke> next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1682455
14:25 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1682455 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird not available in GNOME Software" [Medium,Triaged]
14:25 <willcooke> I tagged that one, seems important that people can find it
14:25 <willcooke> but now I think about it, it's already installed, so probably not a rls bug
14:25 <willcooke> anyone disagree?
14:26 <Laney> no
14:26 <jbicha> willcooke: who owns firefox and thunderbird?
14:26 <jbicha> thunderbird isn't pre-installed for the minimal Ubuntu install
14:26 <willcooke> Chris Coulson is the maintainer of ffox, and I /think/ thunderbird
14:26 <seb128> he is
14:27 <jbicha> then let's ask Chris to fix the bugs. I provided suggestions in the bug
14:27 <willcooke> I'll do that
14:27 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1682455
14:27 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1682455 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird not available in GNOME Software" [Medium,Triaged]
14:27 <seb128> thx
14:27 <willcooke> gah
14:27 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1761554
14:27 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1761554 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[bionic] Extended characters in GNOME screen keyboard don't get entered" [Medium,Triaged]
14:27 <jbicha> U Budgie notably installs Chromium instead of Firefox, but Firefox is so popular I'd like to see that issue fixed for them
14:28 <seb128> the snap is listed right? ;)
14:28 <Laney> jbicha: it's notfixing for the desktop team as a release tracking bug IMHO
14:28 <jbicha> I nominated this extended characters bug after getting no attention upstream.
14:28 <Laney> you can still fix it
14:28 <jbicha> Laney: ok
14:28 <seb128> +1
14:28 <seb128> did you try to nag them on #gnome-shell?
14:29 <jbicha> I guess I'm hesitant to do Mozilla releases since that's a good way to get stuck being the new maintainer!
14:29 <Laney> the mozilla one, not this current one (although that might be too)
14:29 <seb128> ask carlosg if he needs more info
14:29 <jbicha> seb128: yes, but it's been a few weeks so I can try pinging again
14:29 <seb128> thx
14:29 <willcooke> next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1762152
14:29 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1762152 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Network Manager is unable to connect to Wifi. Ask password and then loop forever" [Undecided,New]
14:29 <jbicha> it feels odd that no one else has mentioned the issue yet, maybe not a very popular function yet
14:30 <willcooke> I'll raise the n-m one on Thursday and see if I can get someone to help
14:30 <willcooke> ditto the next NM one
14:30 <jbicha> I don't think I can fix the osk bug, but if you just want someone to talk to GNOME about it, I guess you can assign me
14:31 <willcooke> and we're out of time, but I think that's the end of the list
14:31 <willcooke> anyone got anything they want to talk about before EOM
14:31 <willcooke> jbicha, thx
14:31 <didrocks> (nothing from me)
14:32 <willcooke> ok, then lets end
14:32 <willcooke> #endmeeting