14:00 <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-03-27
14:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 27 14:00:19 2018 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:00 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
14:00 <oSoMoN> o/
14:00 <andyrock> o/
14:00 <seb128> first sorry again for shifting it a bit earlier, I didn't remember about the DST shift and need to go at 5pm or a bit after that
14:00 <kenvandine> o/
14:01 <seb128> and I don't think we are going to stick to half an hour with the rls bugs reviews, etc
14:01 <seb128> 1h would already be good :)
14:01 <seb128> alright, let's get started, please remind to include your bionic milestoned bugs in your summary
14:01 <seb128> #topic andyrock
14:01 <seb128> andyrock, hey
14:01 <andyrock> Done:
14:01 <andyrock> #1 software-properties now has a GUI to enable livepatch (LP: #1756364). Thanks Didier for the reviews!
14:01 <andyrock> #2 Fix for LP: #1757444.
14:01 <andyrock> #3 Fix for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/25 (Online-accounts not properly removed if the window is closed without dismissing the notification). Fixed in the repos, waiting for upstream to merge it.
14:01 <andyrock> #4 Testing and reviewing Marco's MPs for light-themes.
14:01 <andyrock> WIP:
14:01 <andyrock> #1 livepatch page in ubuntu-welcome (https://www.dropbox.com/s/mi97bht0m26thr7/Peek%202018-03-27%2014-31.gif?dl=0)
14:01 <andyrock> #2 Proposed a patch upstream for LP: #1749007. Review in progress.
14:01 <andyrock> Other:
14:01 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1756364 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "[ffe] Livepatch integration" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756364
14:01 <andyrock> #1 Some debug for https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/71 (F11 makes gnome-shell/mutter to deadlock)
14:01 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1757444 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "[Ubuntu SSO] When a second opt is required, text entry should be empty." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757444
14:01 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 25 in gnome-control-center "Online-accounts not properly removed if the window is closed without dismissing the notification" (comments: 0) [Opened]
14:01 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1749007 in gnome-system-monitor (Ubuntu) "Snap mounts should be hidden from System Monitor" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749007
14:01 <ubot5> Error: Gnome bug 25 could not be found
14:01 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug 71 in gnome-shell "Shell freezes and rapidly consumes all memory after holding down F11 in Firefox" (comments: 4) [Opened]
14:01 <ubot5> Error: Gnome bug 71 could not be found
14:02 <andyrock> EOW
14:02 <andyrock> someone should fix the Ubuntu IRC Bot
14:03 <seb128> to understand gitlab?
14:03 <andyrock> to now show "Gnome bug 71 could not be found"
14:03 <ubot5> Error: Gnome bug 71 could not be found
14:03 <seb128> ah it does
14:03 <seb128> right
14:03 <andyrock> when they actually do
14:03 <seb128> Trevinho taught it about gitlab, it's in his summary
14:04 <seb128> right, but that would loop :p
14:04 <seb128> it's just that it turns the gitlab url in "GNOME ... n"
14:04 <seb128> should change the text to not trigger the bot
14:04 <andyrock> yeah I'll remind him
14:04 <seb128> andyrock, you had bug #1637984 milestoned but the new udisks landed in bionic so I closed that now
14:04 <ubot5> bug 1637984 in udisks2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Disks shows all mounted snaps" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1637984
14:04 <seb128> thanks andyrock
14:05 <seb128> #topic dgadomski
14:05 <seb128> dgadomski, hey
14:05 <seb128> or maybe you are not around yet, let's go back to your after the 16:30 :)
14:05 <seb128> #topic didrocks
14:05 <seb128> didrocks, hey
14:06 <didrocks> hey
14:06 <didrocks> * Telemetry:
14:06 <didrocks> - finish support of gather data metrics from system. Project is at https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report.
14:06 <didrocks> - refined command line usage
14:06 <didrocks> - automated generation on go generate of README, markdown, shell completion.
14:06 <didrocks> - added a Go API with its documentation and tests: https://godoc.org/github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/pkg/sysmetrics
14:06 <didrocks> - crafted a C API, exported via a shared library calling into the Go code, with test coverage and documentation: https://godoc.org/github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-report/pkg/sysmetrics/C. Note that each "Example" section is extracted and test compiled against a build-on-demand shared library to ensure that all our examples are always correct.
14:06 <didrocks> - added 243 tests. Code coverage, including command line tool.
14:06 <didrocks> - integrating CI via Travis CI and code coverage report: https://travis-ci.org/ubuntu/ubuntu-report, https://codecov.io/gh/ubuntu/ubuntu-report.
14:06 <didrocks> * Livepatch:
14:06 <didrocks> - multiple reviews and comment iterations on https://code.launchpad.net/~azzar1/software-properties/add-canonical-livepatch/+merge/341427
14:06 <didrocks> - sponsored with some design changes needed to ubuntu:
14:06 <didrocks> - sponred gnome-online-accounts fix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-online-accounts/3.27.92-1ubuntu2
14:06 <didrocks> * Misc:
14:06 <didrocks> - Make some github research and maintenance on our "Ubuntu" org name. Renamed to "ubuntu": was creating a lot of issues due to github/Travis integration
14:06 <didrocks> - Quick review theme fixes
14:06 <didrocks> - Communitheme track/answer/communication
14:06 <didrocks> * no bionic milestone bug for me. But some on my list which should all be tackled next week (translation fixes, upstream dash to dock crashing the session…)
14:06 <didrocks> EOW
14:08 <seb128> didrocks, bug #1719462 is milestoned, but you mentioned it :)
14:08 <ubot5> bug 1719462 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "[Translation] "Left" and "Right" must be translated differently in different contexts" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1719462
14:08 <seb128> thanks didrocks
14:08 <didrocks> yw ;)
14:08 <seb128> #topic duflu
14:08 <seb128> (Status for the past 7 days. I know that some of this already made it into the Friday newsletter)
14:08 <seb128> * Screen corruption when logging into Xorg sessions (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753776)
14:08 <seb128> - Upstream doesn't want to fix or workaround it in Mesa. They would rather enhance the kernel+Xorg to eventually do things properly. But in the meantime for the foreseeable future, upstream users will see the corruption.
14:08 <seb128> - I wrote a distro patch for bionic that disables the offending (new) feature and avoids the corruption, just for Ubuntu.
14:08 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1753776 in mesa (Ubuntu Bionic) "Graphics corruption just before login animation to Xorg sessions (Intel gen9 GPUs only)" [High,Fix released]
14:08 <seb128> - Fix released to bionic.
14:08 <seb128> * Theme fixes:
14:08 <seb128> - Fix released to bionic (amongst others): Unreadable combobox menu text (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1725921)
14:08 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1725921 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu Xenial) "[regression] Combobox menus have gray text on gray background" [High,Fix committed]
14:09 <seb128> * Gnome Shell performance:
14:09 <seb128> - Affecting Xorg and Wayland sessions:
14:09 <seb128> . CPU usage: Went deep into this again. I have developed patches that reduce the CPU requirements of the overview (etc). But I'm still trying to optimize, tweak and even rewrite them to do better and also make upstream happier than last time.
14:09 <seb128> . Clock/animations smoothness fix: Still blocked awaiting upstream review (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26)
14:09 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 26 in mutter "clutter: Smooth out master clock to smooth visuals" (comments: 1) [Opened]
14:09 <seb128> - Affecting only Wayland sessions (still blocked, no responses for upstream for over a month):
14:09 <seb128> . Remove artificial performance blockage: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25
14:09 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 25 in mutter "renderer-native: Swap then await earlier flips." (comments: 5) [Opened]
14:09 <seb128> . Simplify and clean up: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/29
14:09 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 29 in mutter "eglnative: Simplify and remove 'fb_in_use'" (comments: 3) [Opened]
14:09 <seb128> * Libinput:
14:09 <seb128> - My omnidirectional hysteresis work reached bionic this week as part of libinput 1.10.3 (it was in 1.10.2 but Ubuntu never got that).
14:09 <seb128> . Now the cursor at least won't move in squares and snap to horizontal/vertical lines.
14:09 <seb128> - More work is required for some touchpads that are now unresponsive (fixes exist on master but not in the 1.10 branch). Blocked awaiting me to get back to hardware/branch testing for libinput.
14:09 <seb128> * Synaptics touchpad settings missing (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1686081):
14:09 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1686081 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "If -synaptics is installed, GNOME Mouse & Touchpad Settings doesn't work" [Medium,In progress]
14:09 <seb128> - My GTK bug fix was merged upstream (in gtk4 only): https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/commit/0ad27cc598
14:09 <seb128> - So now we have the minor GTK fix upstream, but not downstream (it's only in gtk4, not gtk3). And we have the main mutter+gnome-control-center fixes downstream, but not upstream. I've tried to upstream as much as possible. Phoronix already made a news article about our request for that getting rejected.
14:09 <seb128> * Crashes not getting reported:
14:09 <seb128> - The apport fix for missing crash files has finally been released (last night). So hopefully now in 18.04 we will get a better picture of gnome-shell crashes: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746874
14:09 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Fix released]
14:09 <seb128> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
14:09 <seb128> - gnome-shell: Only just treading water in being able to close bugs as fast as they open. I'm concerned we won't be able to keep up as well when the release happens, because gnome-shell is where most of the bug traffic is.
14:09 <seb128> - gnome-session: I did a quick cleanup of some old bugs (only as far back as quantal), which you can see in the chart. More could be done still.
14:09 <seb128> - xorg: Continues to grow. I'm already subscribed to too many other things to look after that one :/
14:09 <seb128> 
14:10 <seb128> (quite some summary from Daniel as usual ;)
14:10 <seb128> (giving a min for us to digest it)
14:10 <seb128> he has no milestoned bug atm
14:10 <seb128> k, next, I hope the buffer went through by now
14:11 <seb128> #topic jbicha
14:11 <seb128> jbicha, hey
14:11 <jbicha> • Started https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes -- please add features and important changes
14:11 <jbicha> • GNOME Games & Documents apps were updated to 3.28 (needed late NEW processing)
14:11 <jbicha> • ubiquity UIFE in progress LP: #1758082
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1758082 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Update ubiquity's Minimal Install page to match the spec" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758082
14:11 <jbicha> • rhythmbox update LP: #1752966
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1752966 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Please Merge 3.4.2-2 from Debian (Fix use of mediakeys D-Bus API)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1752966
14:11 <jbicha> • Sponsored translation fixes for GunnarHJ LP: #1756982 LP: #1756205 LP: #1751261 (last one is sync because he forwarded fix to Debian)
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1756982 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Show correct app name also in non-English sessions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756982
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1756205 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Can't input Chinese characters in daily built" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756205
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1751261 in gettext (Ubuntu) "libgweather-locations.pot generation fails with bionic meson" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751261
14:11 <jbicha> • Split gnome-terminal-nautilus to separate binary pkg so that it is correctly installable and uninstallable from the Nautilus page in GNOME Software
14:11 <jbicha> • Made the first page of GNOME Initial Setup nicer (although I guess this may be obsolete soon with Robert's in-progress overhaul)
14:11 <jbicha> • Dropped totem from minimal install to allow users to more easily use vlc or gnome-mpv or whatever
14:11 <jbicha> • Dealt with python3-distutils fallout
14:11 <jbicha> • Tagged some incoming bugs to discuss in AOB
14:11 <jbicha> • Removed xchat-gnome which made some people unhappy LP: #1758163
14:11 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1758163 in xchat-gnome (Ubuntu) "Please remove xchat-gnome from Ubuntu (again)" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758163
14:11 <jbicha> • Removed gksu from Debian which will make other people unhappy https://jeremy.bicha.net/2018/03/21/gksu-is-dead/
14:11 <jbicha> • The last things keeping gtk2 in main are Thunderbird (expected to be fixed in ESR 60), gparted, and 3 input methods
14:11 <jbicha> • darkxst is now an official Debian Maintainer. Congraulations!
14:11 <jbicha> • darkxst also updated our pcre2 patches so GNOME Builder 3.28 is in bionic too
14:12 <jbicha> ⏰
14:12 <seb128> good work despite making people unhappy on the way :p
14:12 <seb128> and no milestoned bug it seems
14:12 <seb128> next
14:12 <seb128> #topic jamesh
14:13 <seb128> no summary from him this week it seems :/
14:13 <seb128> kenvandine, can you remind him to put a calendar reminder for those or something?
14:13 <kenvandine> yes
14:13 <seb128> thx
14:13 <seb128> #topic jibel/heber
14:13 <seb128> jibel, hey
14:13 <jibel> hi
14:13 <jibel> - Turn off snap refresh on live session (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1723094)
14:13 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1723094 in snapd "Live images should be able to turn off Snap updates" [Medium,Confirmed]
14:13 <jibel> - Reviewed and merge several MPs for automated tests.
14:13 <jibel> - Triaging / debugging of upgrade and installation bugs
14:13 <jibel> - Turn off gnome-software service in live session (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1758920)
14:13 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1758920 in casper (Ubuntu Bionic) "Disable gnome-software service on live session" [Medium,Triaged]
14:13 <jibel> - Reviewing MP for ubiquity - telemetry and update of the “Updates and other software” page
14:13 <jibel> eof
14:14 <seb128> the live session one is your only milestoned bug
14:14 <seb128> thanks jibel!
14:14 <jibel> yes
14:14 <seb128> #topic kenvandine
14:14 <seb128> kenvandine, hey
14:14 * kenvandine waves
14:14 <kenvandine> * Updated the default-provider for all the GNOME snaps to specify <SNAP> rather than <SNAP>:<SLOT>
14:14 <kenvandine> * Worked on a better fix for XDG user-dirs https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
14:14 <kenvandine> - This gives us translated directories without the need for symlinks, however they will fall back to symlinking if needed
14:14 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 1) [Open]
14:14 <kenvandine> * Did some testing on the bindtextdomain LDPRELOAD branch, not needed for snaps using the GNOME platform snap or anything built with the backports PPA.  But does solve the problem for firefox and others building against the GTK in 16.04 proper.
14:14 <kenvandine> * No bionic milestoned bugs
14:14 <kenvandine> ⚾
14:15 <seb128> kenvandine, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/?field.assignee=ken-vandine disagrees with that statement
14:15 <seb128> bug #1750995
14:15 <kenvandine> hmmm
14:15 <ubot5> bug 1750995 in gnome-session (Ubuntu Bionic) "Logging out live session takes several minutes" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750995
14:15 <Laney> busted
14:15 <seb128> :)
14:15 <kenvandine> ok, my profile page doesn't list any bugs :)
14:15 <seb128> that url ^ is handy
14:16 <seb128> well replace with your name :)
14:16 <kenvandine> i was going to look into that bug because my laptop seemed to be experiencing it as well
14:16 <kenvandine> but it's not anymore
14:16 <kenvandine> it logs out quickly now
14:16 <seb128> :/
14:16 <Laney> did you try a live session?
14:16 <Laney> that's what the bug title says
14:16 <kenvandine> nope, i know
14:16 <seb128> k, homework for you then :)
14:17 <kenvandine> in BUD we thought i might have a reproducer in the installed session, it was taking several minutes to logout
14:17 <kenvandine> magically went away
14:17 <seb128> could have to do with network timeouts or something, who knows
14:17 <jibel> shy bug, you scared it
14:17 <kenvandine> i'll look at the live session
14:17 <seb128> anyway it sounds like it needs more investigation, let's see what's the status next week
14:17 <seb128> thanks kenvandine
14:18 <seb128> #topic Laney
14:18 <seb128> Laney, hey
14:18 <Laney> hi
14:18 <Laney> I was typing some stuff and then my gnome-shell crashed
14:18 <Laney> so lost some of it
14:18 <Laney> sry
14:18 <Laney> • autopkgtest: we had some fallout from an upstream change which broke our -proposed pinning, Steve worked around that and I tried to fix upstream, first attempt was wrong and needs another go
14:18 <Laney> • autopkgtest 2: an openvswitch SRU exposed a bug in the upgrade process, worked a bit with IS to help get enough information to file a bug for that
14:18 <Laney> • reviewed / fed back / crushed / packaged the default wallpapers
14:18 <Laney> • reviewed / uploaded jibel's casper change to delay snapd refresh in live sessions
14:18 <Laney> • pkged gstreamer 1.14 final
14:18 <Laney> • helped Gunnar with some g-c-c fixes
14:18 <Laney> • https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-menus/+bug/1747717 - not in a position to reproduce due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1750465, will keep an eye
14:18 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1747717 in gnome-menus (Ubuntu Bionic) "package gnome-menus 3.13.3-11ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: triggers looping, abandoned - gnome-menus -> ufw" [High,Confirmed]
14:18 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1750465 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu Artful) "upgrade attempting to process triggers out of order (package plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text 0.9.2-3ubuntu17 failed to install/upgrade: dependency problems - leaving triggers unprocessed)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
14:18 <Laney> • https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1750846 - worked on that, still confused, might need someone else to look with me
14:18 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1750846 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu Bionic) "several g-s-d services are timing out when booting a live session" [High,Confirmed]
14:18 <Laney> 🕒
14:18 <seb128> the price to pay for staying under the wayland session :p
14:19 <jibel> you don't need wayland to make it crash
14:19 <seb128> the shell crashing should take your session/apps down under xorg though
14:20 <seb128> Laney, the plymouth fix that landed is not enough for unblocking the gnome-menus one?
14:20 <Laney> no
14:20 <seb128> k, I need to nag Steve about that one then :p
14:20 <Laney> no gnome-shell core dump
14:20 <Laney> I just asked in #ubuntu-devel
14:20 <seb128> thx
14:21 <seb128> #topic oSoMoN
14:21 <seb128> oh, and thanks Laney :)
14:21 <seb128> oSoMoN, hey
14:21 <oSoMoN> hey
14:21 <oSoMoN> • firefox
14:21 <oSoMoN> ∘ fix for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1444313 (setting as default browser in snap fails) landed but Ken identified another issue: the firefox snap ships a copy of xdg-settings in usr/bin, which overrides the one in the core snap (this was fixed by him a while ago but somehow never propagated to the right branch)
14:21 <ubot5> Mozilla bug 1444313 in Shell Integration "setting as default browser in snap fails" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
14:21 <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.mozilla.org bug 1444313 in Shell Integration "setting as default browser in snap fails" [Normal, Resolved: Fixed] - Assigned to olivier
14:21 <ubot5> bug 1444313 in openstack-ansible "Incorrect ownership of /var/log/mysql" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1444313
14:21 <oSoMoN> • chromium
14:21 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated debs and snap in stable channel to 65.0.3325.181
14:21 <oSoMoN> ∘ working on build failures in beta and dev channels, and investigating upstream change impacting widevine in dev branch
14:22 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
14:22 <oSoMoN> ∘ pushed 6.0.3 RC1 snap to the candidate channel, and issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-3/4604)
14:22 <oSoMoN> ∘ preparing 5.4.6 SRU for artful
14:22 <oSoMoN> • other
14:22 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed and fixed bug #1757204 and bug #1757261
14:22 <cyphermox> willcooke: have we had animals to put on the slideshow yet?
14:22 <ubot5> bug 1757204 in libindicator (Ubuntu) "libindicator is not multi-arch aware" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757204
14:22 <ubot5> bug 1757261 in libindicator (Ubuntu) "libindicator FTBFS on bionic" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757261
14:22 <oSoMoN> ∘ created https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3211 to land multi-arch awareness for libindicator and libappindicator: upstream chromium will soon require it
14:22 <oSoMoN> ∘ no bionic milestoned bug
14:22 <oSoMoN> 🌻
14:22 <cyphermox> oh my, sorry, I didn't realize you were in a meeting
14:22 <willcooke> cyphermox, yeah, got the final ones yesterday.  Will do slideshow tomorrow
14:22 <cyphermox> ta
14:23 <seb128> thanks oSoMoN!
14:23 <seb128> #topic seb128
14:24 <seb128> • was on holidays for most of the week
14:24 <seb128> • spent friday catching up on things that happened during my holidays
14:24 <seb128> • debugged/fixed gnome-photos autopkgtest
14:24 <seb128> • looked at some packages blocked in proposed, poked some people about some issues
14:24 <seb128> • trello board review & updates
14:24 <seb128> • incoming bugs triaging
14:24 <seb128> • got the bolt 0.2 update ready
14:24 <seb128> • milestoned bugs
14:24 <seb128> ∘ bug #1726143, I didn't start on that one yet, for this week or next
14:24 <ubot5> bug 1726143 in nautilus-share (Ubuntu Bionic) "Automatic installation of samba fails with "could not find package libpam-smbpass"" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1726143
14:24 <seb128> ∘ bug #1756378, I can reproduce locally and I started debugging
14:24 <ubot5> bug 1756378 in udisks2 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Udisks2 flacky test (regression from 2.7)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756378
14:24 <seb128> </week>
14:25 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
14:25 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, are you around already?
14:25 <seb128> probably not
14:25 * Laney wonders where tkamppeter is?
14:25 <Laney> somewhere exotic?
14:26 <seb128> Brazil?
14:26 <Laney> not unless he's visiting
14:26 <kenvandine> Austria these days
14:26 <Laney> ya
14:26 <seb128> oh ok
14:26 <Laney> i.e. NO EXCUSE!
14:26 <seb128> ahah
14:26 <seb128> :)
14:26 <seb128> anyway, next!
14:26 <seb128> #topic Trevinho
14:26 <seb128> who is also not here, but he sent his summary
14:26 <seb128> · Theme changes (all landed, a part from last change):
14:26 <seb128> - Rewritten Ambiance-rw placssidebar to be simpler, more themeable and customizable and to be able to import it easily to support RTL languages:
14:26 <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/places-sidebar-button-theming/+merge/341925
14:26 <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/popover-tip-fix/+merge/341916
14:26 <seb128> - Refactor of the window indicators theming, using svgs instead and scaled images to fix their usability and adding some padding to help clicking on them:
14:27 <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/windowbuttons-bg-and-padding/+merge/342171
14:27 <seb128> - Other theming stuff:
14:27 <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/rtl-linked-buttons-fix/+merge/341881
14:27 <seb128> https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/list-theming/+merge/341003
14:27 <seb128> · Fixed a mutter hidpi + SSD decorations issue:
14:27 <seb128> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/58
14:27 <ubot5-ng> GNOME bug (Merge request) 58 in mutter "theme: Scale titlebar spacing when computing x" (comments: 1) [Opened]
14:27 <seb128> · In the works (done, but need to cleanup) a fix for gtk to properly scale
14:27 <seb128> -gtk-scaled images when they are used from style context (as mutter does with decorations)
14:27 <seb128> · Couple of stable releases for the telegram-desktop snap
14:27 <seb128> · Review of ken's desktop helpers branch:
14:27 <seb128> - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/103
14:27 <ubot5-ng> ubuntu bug (Pull request) 103 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "If the user-dirs.* exists in the $REALHOME, link them into the snap's XDG_CONFIG_HOME." (comments: 1) [Open]
14:27 <seb128> · And some fun in my spare time to make the ubuntu-bot in this channel to support github and gitlab (added official, salsa and gnome so far), that you might have noticed during this meeting too:
14:27 <seb128> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-bots/github-support/+merge/342155
14:27 <seb128> - https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-bots/gitlab-support/+merge/342164
14:27 <seb128> · Had a talk at MERGE-it (a first time to try to meet all local FLOSS communities all together and in the same place) about Ubuntu and what
14:27 <seb128> we're doing. Here's my slides:
14:27 <seb128> https://github.com/merge-it/2018/blob/master/sito/content/talks/il-futuro-di-ubuntu/slides.pdf
14:27 <seb128> he also wrote about bug #1756826 which is only milestoned bug
14:27 <ubot5> bug 1756826 in nautilus (Ubuntu Bionic) "hangs when locate search provider matches a lot of files" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756826
14:27 <seb128> "there's some debugging to do in the locale
14:27 <seb128> search as per Laney's report and to cleanup the recent-files manager
14:27 <seb128> patch as upstream wants it too."
14:28 <seb128> said differently he didn't look at it yet
14:28 <seb128> thanks Trevinho!
14:28 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
14:28 <seb128> - Fixing translation issues in new GNOME Software Permissions dialog
14:28 <seb128> - Reduce server queries for snap information (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.28.0-0ubuntu5)
14:28 <seb128> - Load installed snap icons from desktop files (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/commit/5c6da1249e7f708f7fa5ed7ff623cafb092bb4af)
14:28 <seb128> - Backporting GNOME Software categories to 16.04 (https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/categories-3-20)
14:28 <seb128> - Working on Ubuntu pages for a first run wizard (https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-initial-setup/log/?h=wip/rancell/ubuntu-welcome)
14:29 <seb128> dgadomski, tkamppeter, did one of you arrive?
14:29 <Laney> It's odd that that thing is a branch of g-i-s
14:29 <Laney> it's going to be a proper fork and not a big distro patch right?
14:29 <seb128> yes
14:29 <Laney> ok good
14:30 <jbicha> gnome-initial-setup allows for optional pages so it might even be upstreamable
14:30 <seb128> kenvandine, ^ did you talk to Robert about that?
14:30 <jbicha> I chatted very briefly with Robert about it
14:30 <kenvandine> i did
14:30 <seb128> kenvandine, he's going to upload it as a new package/source right?
14:30 <seb128> no distro patch g-i-s?
14:30 <seb128> not*
14:30 <kenvandine> he said it's easier to keep it as a big patch, especially if at some point we might want to ship g-i-s, but we could decide later
14:30 <kenvandine> he's keeping it mergable, basically
14:31 <kenvandine> we can totally upload it as a new package
14:31 <seb128> well the pages are subdirs
14:31 <kenvandine> but haven't gotten to that point yet
14:31 <seb128> k, let's rediscuss that out of the meeting
14:31 <seb128> I don't think we need everyone to have the discussion
14:31 <kenvandine> indeed
14:31 <seb128> or that we need to sort it out now
14:31 <seb128> k, good
14:31 <seb128> so next
14:31 <seb128> #topic rls-bb-incomings bugs review
14:31 <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
14:32 <seb128> on the unknown section the 3 first ones are under desktop/dx so we come back to them in a bit
14:32 <seb128> bug #1758712
14:32 <ubot5> bug 1758712 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "GNOME Builder Omnibar theming issue with Ambiance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758712
14:33 <seb128> (I subscribed desktop-packages to ubuntu-themes now, hopefully it make that listed under desktop on next refresh)
14:33 <jbicha> so Builder is a universe package, but it's high profile so I thought it might be worth looking into
14:34 <jbicha> upstream was upset earlier that the app looked really bad with Ambiance, but it's more useful now that listbox theming is improved
14:34 <seb128> I saw the upstream twitter, tried to ping him on IRC to tell that bug reports are a better place than twitter to report issues
14:34 <seb128> especially when he doesn't describe the issue
14:35 <seb128> anyway, yes, agreed, it would be nice to fix
14:35 <seb128> I guess that's one for our theme master, Trevinho, unless somebody else wants to take it?
14:35 <seb128> sounds like not, so it's for trevinho
14:36 <tkamppeter> hi
14:36 <Laney> :D
14:36 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, we are doing bug review, I come back to you after that section
14:37 <seb128> bug #1724439
14:37 <ubot5> bug 1724439 in Mutter "gnome-shell crashed with SIGSEGV in meta_window_get_monitor() from ffi_call_unix64() from ffi_call() from gjs_invoke_c_function() from function_call()" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1724439
14:37 <seb128> duflu commented on that pointed to upstrema fixed in progress
14:37 <seb128> I'm going to assign that to him
14:38 <seb128> bug #1754671
14:38 <ubot5> bug 1754671 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Full-tunnel VPN DNS leakage regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754671
14:38 <seb128> does anyone want to look at n-m?
14:38 <seb128> according to willcooke cyphermox is too busy to poke at that one
14:39 <jbicha> soyrry, not me either (the dropped patch was before my time) & I don't really have expertise there
14:39 <willcooke> yeah, spoke to awe about it as well.  His suggestion is that we try and get the patch upstream, but it's for a really old version, so needs someone to try and port it
14:39 <willcooke> or ask upstream to help port it
14:39 <seb128> well the upstream report on https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746422 has quite some discussion/material
14:39 <ubot5> Gnome bug 746422 in IP and DNS config "[CVE-2018-1000135] Unencrypted DNS queries leaked outside full-tunnel VPN" [Normal,New]
14:39 <ubot5-ng> bugzilla.gnome.org bug 746422 in IP and DNS config "[CVE-2018-1000135] Unencrypted DNS queries leaked outside full-tunnel VPN" [Normal, New] - Assigned to networkmanager-maint
14:39 <ubot5> bug 746422 in Odoo Addons (MOVED TO GITHUB) "[6.1 trunk] [hr_timesheet_sheet] : You can not sign in from an other date than today" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/746422
14:39 <seb128> they commited what they consider half of a solution
14:40 <seb128> and are arguing on the second half
14:40 <seb128> ok, let's me randomly pick somebody then :p
14:40 <seb128> oSoMoN, do you think you could spare some hours to read the upstream comments/try to figure out the status?
14:40 <seb128> sorry to pick on you :)
14:41 <oSoMoN> seb128, I can try
14:41 <seb128> thx!
14:41 <willcooke> thanks oSoMoN
14:41 <seb128> bug #1758035
14:41 <ubot5> bug 1758035 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[regression] gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in g_realloc_n() from g_log_structured()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1758035
14:42 <seb128> duflu think from timing that it might be a side effect of new glib
14:42 <seb128> I guess that's probably for duflu/trevinho unless Laney you want to have a look from the glib angle?
14:43 <seb128> I assign it to duflu for now, feel free to help him if you feel like you have a clue what could be going on
14:43 <Laney> it doesn't really have many details
14:43 <Laney> he can reassign it if he finds out more
14:43 <seb128> right
14:44 <seb128> bug #1735929
14:44 <ubot5> bug 1735929 in gnome-session (Ubuntu) "security problems with incorrect permissions for ubuntu 17.10" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1735929
14:44 <seb128> I can take on this one
14:44 <seb128> bug #1748450
14:44 <ubot5> bug 1748450 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in _g_log_abort() from g_log_default_handler() from default_log_handler(message="Connection to xwayland lost") from g_logv() from g_log() from <bug 1505409>" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1748450
14:45 <seb128> "Connection to xwayland lost"
14:45 <seb128> that's wayland specific then
14:45 <seb128> and it lacks details due to apport issues, Daniel hope that the recent apport changes might lead to actual report of the xwayland issue
14:46 <seb128> I would suggest rls-bb-notfixing that one
14:46 <Laney> ok
14:46 <seb128> the issue is xwayland not gnome-shell, we can target the new reports when we get them
14:46 <seb128> thx
14:46 <Laney> close it altogether then?
14:47 <seb128> let me talk to duflu about that tomorrow
14:47 <seb128> I don't want to upset him
14:47 <seb128> I commented/tagged meanwhile
14:48 <seb128> bug #1757321
14:48 <ubot5> bug 1757321 in udisks2 (Ubuntu) "udisks2 must depend on libblockdev-crypto2 and libblockdev-mdraid2 instead of suggests [Can't mount encrypted USB drive after upgrade to bionic]" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1757321
14:48 <Laney> we can't do anything about that
14:48 <seb128> right
14:48 <Laney> apart from nag the MIR and security team
14:48 <Laney> so it's not really within our control
14:48 <seb128> so what's the right status?
14:48 <Laney> dunno, I don't see how we can commit to it through the rls process
14:49 <Laney> needs to be worked as a Canonical management issue if it's to be prioiritised probably
14:49 <jbicha> jibel said we need the mdraid plugin too which requires an additional (maybe 2) MIRs (see my latest comments on that bug)
14:49 <Laney> spelling
14:49 <Laney> yes but we can't work MIR bugs through the rls process
14:49 <seb128> that leads to bug #1754422 though
14:49 <ubot5> bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754422
14:49 <seb128> where we can help
14:50 <didrocks> I'm afraid that the biggest blocker is the security side of those MIR
14:50 <seb128> they looked at it
14:50 <seb128> but tests are failing
14:50 <Laney> it is not clear if that is a requirement
14:50 <seb128> and we don't fail the build on failing tests
14:50 <Laney> there is no security review
14:50 <seb128> so I guess somebody needs to investigate those tests issues
14:50 <Laney> so even if the tests are made to pass somehow it is still blocked
14:50 <didrocks> I don't see security comments on it
14:50 <seb128> right
14:50 <seb128> didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/volume-key/+bug/1754422/comments/3
14:50 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1754422 in volume-key (Ubuntu) "[MIR] volume-key" [Undecided,Incomplete]
14:51 <didrocks> ah, the second one, not the first one
14:51 <seb128> does anybody want to poke at those tests?
14:51 <Laney> he just built it and pasted the output, this isn't really that helpful
14:51 <seb128> I think they are going to at least want to know why it's fine to have them failing
14:51 <seb128> or to have them fixed
14:52 <Laney> This process sucks
14:52 <Laney> If there was no testsuite there wouldn't be a problem
14:52 <Laney> So you are punished for having one really
14:52 <seb128> well maybe I'm assuming things
14:52 <seb128> and they are not going to ask for details
14:52 <seb128> anyway, let's skip that item for now
14:53 <jbicha> some upstreams have test suites that they know are broken, but no one has asked upstream here about it yet
14:53 <seb128> and I try to sort it out with willcooke to see if we can bribe the security team into doing extra reviews
14:53 <seb128> jbicha, can you ask upstream maybe?
14:53 <jbicha> I can file a bug at least, yes
14:53 <seb128> thx
14:53 <seb128> that will do for now
14:53 <seb128> next
14:53 <seb128> bug #1672297
14:53 <ubot5> bug 1672297 in mutter (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell uses lots of memory, and grows over time" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672297
14:53 <didrocks> #metabug
14:54 <seb128> duflu assigned himself
14:54 <seb128> so I'm just going to milestone and untag
14:54 <Laney> is this the dramabug
14:54 <willcooke> yeah
14:54 <Laney> can we really commit to fixing that in our team?
14:54 <seb128> Daniel is good at poking and surfacing issues
14:54 <Laney> upstream have a performance hackfest coming up
14:54 <seb128> let him do his thing :)
14:54 <Laney> we probably just get the fixes from there
14:54 <seb128> right, Trevinho is going
14:55 <Laney> yes
14:55 <seb128> so let's assume it's being handled between duflu & Trevinho
14:55 <Laney> I don't know what the rls outcome is though
14:55 <Laney> ...
14:55 <Laney> ok then...
14:55 <seb128> I milestoned/assigned to duflu
14:55 <seb128> he can give us status updates in the next week
14:55 <seb128> works for you?
14:56 <Laney> no, I think rls bugs should be actionable and clear
14:56 <Laney> but it's not really up to me]
14:56 <seb128> ok, I talk to him tomorrow to know if there is a specific leak he's concerned about
14:56 <seb128> or if he wants to finish some investigation
14:56 <seb128> and we define what to do then
14:56 <seb128> k?
14:56 <seb128> let's sync up with him on the channel in the morning
14:57 <seb128> and let's keep moving, hour is closing!
14:57 <seb128> bug #1753078
14:57 <ubot5> bug 1753078 in libgtop2 (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in dump_gjs_stack_on_signal_handler() from __GI_raise() from __GI_abort() from glibtop_error_io_vr() from glibtop_error_io_r() from file_to_buffer() from glibtop_get_cpu_s()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1753078
14:57 <seb128> jibel tagged it
14:57 <seb128> it's an issue due to a third party extension
14:57 <seb128> so I don't know if that deserves to be milestoned?
14:58 <didrocks> +1
14:58 <seb128> jibel, do have e.u.c metrics telling us it's important enough that we should work on it?
14:58 <didrocks> well, ideally, it shouldn't crash G-S, but I think not something we should tackle on our side
14:59 <jibel> seb128, not this one, I tagged it because libgtop was involved
14:59 <seb128> Trevinho is looking at making the shell robust when it can and fixing errors
14:59 <jibel> and well ... because my system crashed several times :)
15:00 <seb128> k, let's keep it on the list, I'm going to have a look at where the issue is/if that's something we should fix in libgtop
15:00 <seb128> we can rediscuss it next week once we have more context
15:00 <seb128> bug #1750403
15:00 <ubot5> bug 1750403 in casper (Ubuntu) "Live Session - Increased memory usage with preinstalled snap (fails to start with - gnome-session timeout)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750403
15:01 <seb128> jibel, do you want to own that one?
15:01 <seb128> since you started poking at it and raising issues to the snap team
15:02 <jibel> seb128, sure
15:02 <seb128> thx
15:02 <seb128> bug #1754125
15:02 <ubot5> bug 1754125 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox stays running in the background after quit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1754125
15:02 <willcooke> I'm now -1 on dropping those patches.
15:02 <didrocks> that was a design request
15:03 <didrocks> mpt, in 2009
15:03 <seb128> jbicha, I don't think that's important enough to be milestoned
15:03 <jbicha> from yesterday, it sounded like mpt was fine with the patch being dropped now though
15:03 <didrocks> (first for Ubuntu Netbook Remix, and then on ubuntu itself)
15:03 <willcooke> You still have control via the the whateveritscalled where the notifications go
15:03 <Laney> stop
15:03 <seb128> didrocks, one argument was that the indicator under unity was part of the playing experience but that it is not the same under GNOME
15:03 <Laney> you should discuss the actual bug outside of the meeting
15:03 <didrocks> seb128: true
15:03 <jbicha> ok, we could defer for 18.10 anyway
15:03 <willcooke> what laney said
15:03 <willcooke> untag and move on
15:04 <seb128> I proposed rls-bb-notfixing
15:04 <Laney> yep
15:04 <seb128> we can discuss it more later
15:04 <seb128> thx
15:04 <jbicha> thanks
15:04 <seb128> bug #1756006
15:04 <ubot5> bug 1756006 in systemd (Ubuntu) "FFe: Support suspend-to-hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1756006
15:05 <jbicha> I added the tag because it's requesting that we grab an unreviewed g-s-d patch
15:05 <seb128> same, I think we should discuss/review it
15:05 <seb128> but it's an AOB topic
15:05 <jbicha> maybe this hasn't been discussed with the Desktop Team yet??!
15:05 <seb128> not a rls-bb bug
15:05 <willcooke> I agree seb128
15:05 <seb128> not it hasn't
15:05 <seb128> let's discuss it off meeting
15:05 <jbicha> ok
15:06 <jibel> seb128, re errors.u.c and gnome-shell, lot of crashes fail to retrace so maybe the libgtop issue is buried somewhere there. For instance https://errors.ubuntu.com/?release=Ubuntu%2018.04&package=gnome-shell&period=month
15:06 <seb128> jibel, did you talk to bdmurray about those retracers failures see if we can get them sorted out?
15:06 <seb128> bug #1755514
15:06 <ubot5> bug 1755514 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) "Clicking the "Additional Printer Settings…" button launches system-config-printer multiple times" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755514
15:07 <seb128> that sounds like a bug worth fixing for tkamppeter
15:07 <seb128> but not a release concern
15:07 <didrocks> yes
15:07 <seb128> untagging/assigned to tkamppeter?
15:07 <seb128> not milestoned
15:07 <tkamppeter> seb128, this is most probably not in system-config-printer but in gnome-control-center.
15:07 <Laney> heheh
15:07 <seb128> right, but it's probably easy to fix
15:08 <Laney> that bug is funny
15:08 <seb128> and an opportunity to learn some GTK :)
15:08 <didrocks> yeah, I guess an easy introductionary bug for a GTK beginner :)
15:08 <jbicha> you want more printer settings? ok, here's more!!
15:08 <Laney> It might actually be one worth taking though
15:08 <Laney> easy and we shouldn't release with it if possible
15:08 <Laney> hopefully easy...
15:08 <tkamppeter> seb128, To the printers part of g-c-c a button was added which should fire up s-c-p when clicking it, so that one can do adjustments which are not supported by g-c-c.
15:09 <seb128> tkamppeter, well maybe s-c-p should not open again but focus the existing instance when called again?
15:09 <kenvandine> yeah, focus existing instance
15:09 <kenvandine> +1
15:09 <tkamppeter> seb128, the problem here seems that if one clicks the button when s-c-p is already running, a second instance of s-c-p gets started, but what should happen is simply take the window of the running s-c-p to the front.
15:10 <Laney> it certainly shouldn't launch 7 instances
15:10 <Laney> NO
15:10 <Laney> it launches it 7 times!
15:10 <didrocks> Laney: only 3 for me :(
15:10 <seb128> urg
15:10 <Laney> haha
15:10 <jbicha> I counted 5 :)
15:10 <Laney> right but it's not "shouldn't launch new instances"
15:10 <Laney> it's clear one click should launch a maximum of one new instance
15:10 <Laney> maybe zero depending on the single instance semantics required
15:11 <didrocks> well, 2 bugs anyway :) (or 1 bug, one feature request to be single-instance)
15:11 <Laney> if s-c-p wants to be single instance it can implement that itself
15:11 <Laney> the fix in g-c-c is to launch it once only
15:11 <Laney> imo
15:11 <seb128> wfm
15:11 <didrocks> I guess we are all saying the same thing differently :)
15:11 <Laney> so I do vote for taking it
15:11 <Laney> fwiw
15:11 <seb128> how can I nominate another chair for the meeting?
15:11 <tkamppeter> This looks more like that as long as the button is held down it repeatedly launches s-c-p, meaning that how long a user holds down the left mouse button when doiung a single mouse click determines how many instances of s-c-p get started. This is clearly a bug of g-c-c.
15:12 <Laney> #chair foo
15:12 <seb128> #chair kenvandine willcooke
15:12 <meetingology> Current chairs: kenvandine seb128 willcooke
15:12 <seb128> kenvandine, willcooke, can you guys do that bug and bug #1759008
15:12 <ubot5> bug 1759008 in ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Revert automatic suspend by default for bionic?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1759008
15:12 <seb128> and the AOB
15:12 <seb128> ?
15:12 <seb128> I need to go :/
15:12 <seb128> that took longer than the hour
15:12 <kenvandine> bye seb128!
15:12 <seb128> thx
15:12 <willcooke> cheers seb
15:12 <seb128> I read the scrollback/comment once I'm back in half an hour
15:12 <seb128> sorry
15:13 <willcooke> k, so that auto suspend bug
15:13 <tkamppeter> For the prevention of two distinct clicks starting s-c-p twice I also suggest to fix g-c-c. I think apps do not have to contain a protection against being started twice in itself.
15:13 <seb128> willcooke, we didn't wrap on the previous one
15:13 <willcooke> oh
15:13 <seb128> Laney suggests to milestone
15:13 <seb128> we should decide on that
15:13 <seb128> (and bbl on that note)
15:14 <kenvandine> tkamppeter, yes, that's probably an easy fix
15:14 <willcooke> yeah, lets milestone.  tkamppeter are you OK to look in to it?
15:14 <seb128> and for the record I vote +1 on disabling autosuspend by default, unless moving mouse/using keyboard wakes up the machine as it does on windows
15:14 <kenvandine> but it's also probably desirable to make s-c-p single instance
15:14 <kenvandine> 2 separate things
15:15 <jbicha> seb128: what about on battery power?
15:15 <willcooke> hold on, let's finish the printing one
15:16 <Laney> ok I'll just nominate it
15:16 <willcooke> thanks Laney, I was just about to
15:16 <willcooke> but you carry on
15:16 <willcooke> lets fix it
15:16 <Laney> done
15:17 <willcooke> ta
15:17 <willcooke> Last one then I think
15:17 <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings/+bug/1759008
15:17 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1759008 in ubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Revert automatic suspend by default for bionic?" [Undecided,Confirmed]
15:17 <jbicha> sorry for the long bug
15:17 <jbicha> my proposal is we disable autosuspend for AC power and we also disable autosuspend in the live session
15:18 <jbicha> not sure about Seb's opinion, but I think there is widespread support for the idea of autosuspend on battery power
15:18 <willcooke> From an OEM perspective, they will probably have to have this on in order to meet energy star, but that's a different problem.  I'll speak to them about that.
15:19 <jbicha> I believe Fedora is disabling in their live session and are still discussing whether to defer autosuspend-on-AC to Fedora 29 (in 6 months)
15:19 <willcooke> Is there an associated setting to turn auto suspend off?
15:20 <tkamppeter> bug 1755514 updated.
15:20 <ubot5> bug 1755514 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "Clicking the "Additional Printer Settings…" button launches system-config-printer multiple times" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755514
15:20 <jbicha> willcooke: yes, the setting is in Settings > Power > Automatic Suspend. It just won't work for the login screen if no one is logged in graphically
15:21 <tkamppeter> willcooke, kenvandine, best is if the fix could be done by the one who implemented the button or someone who generally works on g-c-c.
15:21 <willcooke> My personal feeling is that auto suspend would be annoying.  So I'm +1 of reverting auto suspend
15:21 <jbicha> we could also have a different default setting for GDM (it's just gsettings for the system GDM user basically)
15:21 <kenvandine> tkamppeter, it's probably a really simple fix, i'll look at it
15:22 <willcooke> plus there are likely to be other bugs crop up like the GNOME Disks one
15:22 <willcooke> so I think it's safer to not auto suspend
15:22 <tkamppeter> kenvandine, OK, thanks.
15:23 <Laney> sorry to spoil the party, but we're supposed to be discussing if it should be milestoned
15:23 <Laney> this meeting is alerady 1h23 long
15:24 <jbicha> willcooke: running out of battery because your computer happily went from 100% to 0% is also annoying
15:24 <Laney> and I think the answer is yes please
15:24 <willcooke> Laney, yeah as the bug stands "revert auto suspend" then yes
15:25 <willcooke> jbicha, in that case people can change their settings
15:25 <willcooke> I've targetted it
15:25 <willcooke> and I'll find someone to work on it
15:25 <jbicha> willcooke: we should obviously do the right thing by default though
15:25 <Laney> discuss it after!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:25 <jbicha> willcooke: you can assign me
15:26 <willcooke> done thanks jbicha
15:26 <willcooke> I think that's all then
15:26 <willcooke> #topic AOB
15:26 <willcooke> Anyone got anything that needs talking about right now?
15:26 <jbicha> not from me
15:26 <didrocks> nope
15:26 <tkamppeter> My weekly items, or should I send them by e-mail?
15:26 <Laney> just let's please try to keep the rls bug review going faster in future
15:27 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
15:27 <Laney> - should we commit to fixing this bug for the release - yes or no, if yes, who
15:27 <willcooke> tkamppeter, please paste
15:27 <Laney> if it needs talking about, do it after
15:27 <willcooke> Laney, +1 thanks
15:27 <Laney> ok go
15:27 <tkamppeter> - Milestone Bugs: Fix for the CUPS crash bug 1750514 (and some other crash bugs which I reported upstream later) will come with CUPS 2.2.7, to be released most probably tomorrow.
15:27 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: cups-browsed recognized CUPS queues via ipp://.../printers/<name> URI, now discovered that IPP printer HP LaserJet M1212nf uses such an URI, too (instead of the usual ipp://.../ipp/print), bug 1731417. Working on a fix (CUPS queue should be recognized by printer-type TXT field).
15:27 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting Summit 2018: Booked the travel, invited speakers, Michael Vrhel from Ghostscript/MuPDF and Sean Kau from Chrome OS.
15:27 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Reviewed student's proposal drafts. All the 8 pre-selected OpenPrinting students have submitted their final proposal to Google.
15:27 <ubot5> bug 1750514 in cups (Ubuntu Bionic) "cupsd (11) ippCopyAttribute → copy_attrs → copy_printer_attrs → get_printer_attrs → cupsdProcessIPPRequest" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750514
15:27 <ubot5> bug 1731417 in hplip (Ubuntu) "Installed network printer removed automatically when turned off" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731417
15:27 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
15:27 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
15:27 <willcooke> #endmeeting