14:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-02-27
14:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 27 14:30:09 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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14:30 <jbicha> gunno/
14:30 <jbicha> o/
14:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks (hols), duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
14:30 <andyrock> o/
14:30 <seb128> doh, already mid-afternoon :/
14:30 <jibel> \o
14:31 <kenvandine> o/
14:31 <Laney> woof
14:31 <oSoMoN> o/
14:31 <oSoMoN> seb128, yeah, time flies
14:32 <willcooke> I think we've got enough people to get started
14:32 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
14:33 <andyrock> 1. Reviews:
14:33 <andyrock> 1.1 https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/static-compregion-memory-curruption-fix/+merge/338342
14:33 <andyrock> 1.2 https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/compiz/x-sru6/+merge/338345
14:33 <andyrock> 2. Ubuntu SSO provider for Gnome-online-accounts:
14:33 <andyrock> 2.1 MP Upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=793755#c2
14:33 <andyrock> 2.2 WIP livepatch auth inside gnome-online-accounts
14:33 <andyrock> X. Various:
14:33 <ubot5`> Gnome bug 793755 in general "Implement an Ubuntu Single Sign-on Provider" [Normal,New]
14:33 <andyrock> X.1 Helping Marco figuring out the unity's FTBS
14:33 <andyrock> eow
14:33 <willcooke> thanks andyrock
14:33 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
14:33 <dgadomski> hey
14:33 <dgadomski> * testing fix for bug #1743422
14:33 <dgadomski> * working on bug #1749289
14:33 <dgadomski> * tested fix for bug #1688508 on Xenial and Artful, uploaded debdiffs
14:33 <dgadomski> * checking a potential hwdata and g-s-d issue (wrong name displayed for an external display)
14:33 <ubot5`> bug 1743422 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher reveal doesn't always work when moving the pointer to the defined hot spot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743422
14:33 <ubot5`> bug 1749289 in oem-config (Ubuntu) "Installer stops after pressing Cancel on Select a language screen during OEM install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749289
14:33 <ubot5`> bug 1688508 in libvirt (Ubuntu Artful) "libvirt-guests.sh fails to shutdown guests in parallel" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1688508
14:33 <dgadomski> eof
14:33 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
14:34 <willcooke> #topic duflu
14:34 <willcooke> * Gnome Shell performance work (https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs)
14:34 <willcooke> - Started splitting up my many little mutter fixes to lessen the impact of the big one coming later:
14:34 <willcooke> . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/25
14:34 <willcooke> . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/26
14:34 <willcooke> . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/29
14:34 <willcooke> . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/30
14:34 <willcooke> . https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/34
14:34 <willcooke> - Multi-monitor frame scheduling:
14:34 <willcooke> . Done and working well for the single GPU case: https://git.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/mutter/log/?h=crtc-holds-reference
14:34 <willcooke> . Unfortunately I was forced to modify the hybrid GPU code and have not tested that yet with hybrid hardware. Might need to put it on hold and finish it later because this has become more of a Gnome 3.30 / Ubuntu 18.10 task now...
14:34 <willcooke> . I will continue to push little prereq branches like those above, to ensure the task eventually progresses next cycle for 18.10.
14:34 <willcooke> * Synaptics missing in Gnome Settings (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1733032)
14:34 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1733032 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Touchpad settings don't work after upgrading to 17.10 (because xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is still installed)" [Medium,In progress]
14:34 <willcooke> - Added synaptics settings support to mutter: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/merge_requests/37
14:34 <willcooke> - The only missing piece after that is to remove the small amount of logic from gnome-control-center that explicitly hides the GUI for synaptics (yes, it goes out of its way to hide them).
14:34 <willcooke> * BlueZ 5.48 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747354)
14:34 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1747354 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Update bluez to version 5.48 in bionic" [Wishlist,Fix committed]
14:34 <willcooke> - Finally released to bionic this week: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.48-0ubuntu3
14:34 <willcooke> * Libinput:
14:34 <willcooke> - News: 1.10 released to bionic this week. We are back on pure Debian packages.
14:34 <willcooke> - More time spent discussing and fixing libinput with upstream:
14:34 <willcooke> . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105108
14:34 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 105108 in libinput "Lenovo Yoga 11S touchpad is jittery" [Normal,New]
14:34 <willcooke> . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103970
14:34 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 103970 in libinput "Apple Magic Trackpad sensitivity too low (does not detect touches unless pressing hard)" [Major,Resolved: duplicate]
14:34 <willcooke> . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103572
14:34 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 103572 in libinput "Libinput: 1.9+: Apple Magic Trackpad stutters, is unresponsive" [Normal,Assigned]
14:34 <willcooke> . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105246
14:34 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 105246 in libinput "libinput command can't find its subcommand --parameters" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
14:34 <willcooke> . https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105264
14:34 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 105264 in libinput "libinput-measure-touch-size prints sizes backwards" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
14:34 <willcooke> * Fun with charts: More progress clearing the bug backlog this week:
14:34 <willcooke> - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vRDHPxGBHqM6XkT_S8ggtYfD0xchKSUD_z9PopNVE3G1rU05fVSnxDGcDsEstl7gu7N-tzCU6mLUp2V/pubchart?oid=254968654&format=interactive
14:35 <willcooke> * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, mir, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput.
14:35 <willcooke> #topic jbicha
14:35 <jbicha> • Lots more GNOME 3.27 fun
14:35 <jbicha> • Prepared gnome-shell & mutter 3.27 transition in GNOME3 Staging PPA LP: #1751070
14:35 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1751070 in budgie-desktop (Ubuntu) "mutter 3.28 transition" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751070
14:35 <jbicha> • Sponsored the NM autopkgtest update for gQuigs
14:35 <jbicha> • Fixed aisleriot taking forever to build
14:35 <jbicha> • Cherry-picked gnome-clocks crash fix for bionic LP: #1749937 (waiting for Debian sync)
14:35 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1749937 in gnome-clocks (Ubuntu) "gnome-clocks crashed with SIGSEGV in gweather_location_format_two_serialize()" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749937
14:35 <jbicha> • Fixed LP: #1617535 for bionic, still needs to be SRU'd
14:35 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1617535 in ubuntu-geoip (Ubuntu Artful) "geoip.ubuntu.com does not utilize HTTPS" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1617535
14:35 <jbicha> • Synced gnome-keyring with Debian except for our systemd user service stuff
14:35 <jbicha> • Fixed libgweather translations after conversion to meson with GunnarHj's help LP: #1751261
14:35 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1751261 in gettext (Ubuntu) "libgweather-locations.pot generation fails with bionic meson" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751261
14:35 <jbicha> • Made progress on pipewire packaging with fsateler's help. Now blocked on https://github.com/PipeWire/pipewire/issues/60
14:35 <jbicha> • Allowed telepathy to be dropped from main
14:35 <jbicha> • fonts-ubuntu is now in (Debian) non-free. The RFP/ITP bug was 2663 days old. LP: #1617535
14:36 <jbicha> 🥌
14:36 <willcooke> thanks jbicha!
14:36 <willcooke> #topic jamesh
14:36 <willcooke> themes for snapped desktop apps:
14:36 <willcooke> * wrote up a snapcraft forum post about making themes available to
14:36 <willcooke> snaps via the content interface:
14:36 <willcooke> https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/supporting-desktop-themes-via-the-content-interface/4122
14:36 <willcooke> * started work on the simple snapcraft change (allow cloud parts to
14:36 <willcooke> introduce plugs/slots) mentioned in the post, but postponed that to
14:36 <willcooke> work on the xdg-open feature
14:36 <willcooke> snapd xdg-open extension:
14:36 <willcooke> * The overall aim here is to allow snaps to use
14:36 <willcooke> g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri() for local files, while we're still
14:36 <willcooke> working on full portal support.
14:36 <willcooke> * The first step was to check whether I could assemble an environment
14:36 <willcooke> in a snap where attempts to open arbitrary files would trigger the
14:36 <willcooke> same handler.  I managed to get this working by compiling a stub mime
14:37 <willcooke> database so that all files are mapped to the same content type, and
14:37 <willcooke> subsequently trigger the same handler.  This should be okay for the
14:37 <willcooke> target snap.
14:37 <willcooke> * I am putting together a snap userd PR to add a second D-Bus API for
14:37 <willcooke> handling local files, using similar checks to xdg-desktop-portal's
14:37 <willcooke> OpenURI.OpenFile() method.
14:37 <willcooke> * Once that is in place, the next step is to patch the core snap to
14:37 <willcooke> make its xdg-open proxy call this method when attempting to open local
14:37 <willcooke> files.  This will likely involve replacing the shell script
14:37 <willcooke> implementation with a C program.
14:37 <willcooke> #topic jibel / heber
14:37 <jibel> - 16.04.4 Release. Nothing to report, everything's going well and release is still planned for this Thursday (March 1st)
14:37 <jibel> - Designed a test plan to measure the impact of snaps on boot speed and started gathering data.
14:37 <jibel> - Still debugging random boot and installation issues of Bionic.
14:37 <jibel> - Update ubiquity autopilot branch according to latest changes in minimal installation feature and run tests against latest image.
14:37 <jibel> done
14:37 <willcooke> thanks jibel
14:37 <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
14:38 * kenvandine waves
14:38 <kenvandine> * Packaged robert_ancell's proof of concept snapper (Snap store frontend with apt support) as a snap
14:38 <kenvandine> * Continued work on the gnome-software classic snap
14:38 <kenvandine> - Built latest ubuntu-master
14:38 <kenvandine> - Working on building with fwupd support, in progress
14:38 <kenvandine> * Fixed the gnome-clocks snap automated build, libgweather switched to meson
14:38 <kenvandine> * Created stable/ubuntu-18.04 branches for all the seeded snaps
14:38 <kenvandine> * Confirmed with sil2100 that it should be fine to SRU flatpak 0.12 when it comes out
14:38 <kenvandine> EOF
14:38 <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
14:38 <willcooke> #topic Laney
14:39 <Laney> hi
14:39 <Laney> • helped to finish off the ubiquity 'minimal install' stuff
14:39 <Laney> • looked into how to monitor timezone changes for our proposed improvement to systemd timers, got a possibly working approach, need to figure out how to hook it in - https://gist.github.com/iainlane/fc840fc81018c7ed5af5a6cbbe8968a4
14:40 <Laney> • pushed on some transitions in proposed, got some things migrated and tried to nag about mesa which is the remaining big blocker
14:40 <Laney> • uploaded glib2.0 with test fix and gobject-introspection to debian, merged glib in bionic
14:40 <Laney> • unwedged autopkgtest after meltdown restarts borked it a bit
14:40 <Laney> 🍜
14:40 <willcooke> thanks Laney
14:40 <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN
14:40 <oSoMoN> hey
14:40 <oSoMoN> • chromium
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ 64.0.3282.167 published to {artful,xenial,trusty}-{security,updates}
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated beta to 65.0.3325.88
14:40 <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ promoted 6.0.1 snap to the stable channel
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ published 6.0.2 (RC) snap to the candidate channel, and issued call for testing (https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-6-0-2/4185)
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ investigated bug #1750335, initially skipped the failing test and then Rico fixed it properly
14:40 <ubot5`> bug 1750335 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LO 6.0 autopkgtest failures (uicheck: test_text_direction)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750335
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ relaxed java dependency on i386
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ backports for CVE-2018-6871 published to xenial and trusty
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ filed bug #1750982 and upstream https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115931, cherry-picked upstream fix
14:40 <ubot5`> bugs.documentfoundation.org bug 115931 in LibreOffice "ScFiltersTest::testOrcusODSStyleInterface fails with liborcus 0.13.3" [Normal,Resolved: moved]
14:40 <ubot5`> bug 1750982 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice FTBFS with liborcus 0.13.3" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750982
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ ensured apparmor fixes are cherry-picked to 6-0 branch upstream (https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/50207/1)
14:40 <oSoMoN> ∘ numerous bug reports (bug #1751005, bug #1750087 and duplicates) raised after the artful SRU confirmed that I screwed up, the upload had a patch to fix the apparmor profiles and that resulted in them being strictly enforced, which breaks a flurry of use cases it turns out… I prepared and tested an update to permanently disable the apparmor profiles (with guidance from Jamie), and handed it over to the security
14:40 <ubot5`> bug 1751005 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "libreoffice cannot open a document not within $HOME" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751005
14:40 <ubot5`> bug 1750087 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[libreoffice-kde4] LO crashes when trying to save" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1750087
14:41 <oSoMoN> team, I'm hoping it will go out to users today
14:41 <oSoMoN> ∘ updated debdiff for bug #1749920, added DEP8 tests that run a subset of the unit tests, it got sponsored to bionic and will (hopefully) soon make its way to main
14:41 <ubot5`> bug 1749920 in libepubgen (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libepubgen" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1749920
14:41 <oSoMoN> 😵
14:41 <willcooke> thanks oSoMoN
14:41 <willcooke> #topic seb128
14:41 <seb128> • sponsored the bluez regression fix from duflu, that let 5.48 migrate to bionic - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/5.48-0ubuntu3
14:41 <seb128> • send some emails about our MIRs backlog and what can be done to resolve it
14:41 <seb128> • looked at translations issues and at some fixes proposed by Gunnar (gtk+, gnome-todo, fcitx, gnome-sudoku)
14:41 <seb128> • Discussions/meetings about the livepatch integration in bionic
14:41 <seb128> • disabled the gtk/mir backend, it's unmaintained and not needed since mir talks wayland now - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.22.28-1ubuntu3
14:41 <seb128> • verify the python-dbusmock fix for nm1.10 - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-dbusmock/0.17.1-1
14:41 <seb128> • updated udisks to the current 2.7.6 version - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/2.7.6-1ubuntu1
14:42 <seb128> • looked at some autopkgtest issue from bionic-proposed (retried some transitions issues, debugged meson failing a bit and talked to upstream about it)
14:42 <seb128> • opened a MIR for bolt (thunderbolt 3 service) - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1752056
14:42 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1752056 in Ubuntu "[MIR] bolt" [Undecided,New]
14:42 <seb128> • updated nautilus to the current version - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/1:3.26.2-0ubuntu1
14:42 <seb128> • joined an HR presentation for new managers
14:42 <seb128> • submitted a first version of ubiquity-without-ecryptfs, waiting for review comments
14:42 <seb128> • lot of trello/work status updates
14:42 <seb128> • AOB topics: GNOME 3.28 status, nautilus-share/gnome-user-share status for bionic, gstreamer update?
14:42 <seb128> </week>
14:42 <seb128> (I've been less lazy about writting my summary also this week, extra details and urls :p)
14:42 <seb128> (needs to keep it this way now!)
14:42 <willcooke> \o/
14:42 <willcooke> Thanks seb128, lets discuss more at the end
14:42 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
14:42 <seb128> thx
14:42 <jbicha> you're not a new manager! ;)
14:43 <seb128> lol, but seems some people noticed I was one and decided to invite me to those hangouts :p
14:43 <willcooke> let's give tkamppeter a couple of mins and move on
14:44 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Working out license conflict with CUPS. CUPS has switched to Apache 2.0 from 2.3.x on, which is incompatible with (L)GPL2-only which some files (the ones inherited from CUPS) of cups-filters use. Mike Sweet (author of CUPS) agreed with switching them to Apache 2.0, but this makes cups-filters incompatible with old CUPS (2.2.x or earlier). Mike is working on a solution on the CUPS side to avoid the need of r
14:44 <tkamppeter> e-licensing the files in cups-filters.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - cups: For 18.04 we stay with 2.2.x to avoid license conflicts. Mike Sweet will issue another 2.2.x bug fix release under the old license, backporting bug fixes from 2.3.x.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.20.1 (bug fix release). It is already uploaded to Debian, waiting for sync to Ubuntu.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - HPLIP: No transition 3.17.10 -> 3.17.11. The new version is too buggy, mainly the packaging of the source tarball.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - ghostscript, foo2zjs, ippusbxd, rastertosag-gdi: Merged/synced from Debian to Ubuntu to be up-to-date before Feature Freeze.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Selected the most urgent projects and assigned them to the few mentors we currently have. Another video interview of students. Mentoring Sahil Arora.
14:44 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
14:44 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
14:44 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
14:45 <Trevinho> · Nautilus recent files search provider, and recent files updater:
14:45 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/98
14:45 <Trevinho> - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/merge_requests/112
14:45 <Trevinho> (released in ubuntu package too, seb please tune our gtksettings.ini)
14:45 <Trevinho> · Working on a search provider using locate
14:45 <Trevinho> · Upstream improvements to locate to get better results when using
14:45 <Trevinho> special chars and spaces (locate "my-file_with Separator and accents
14:45 <Trevinho> à la française" matches more stuff now):
14:45 <Trevinho> - https://pagure.io/mlocate/pull-request/41#request_diff
14:45 <Trevinho> - https://pagure.io/mlocate/pull-request/42#request_diff
14:45 <Trevinho> · Landing of a new unity SRU with some crash fixes
14:45 <Trevinho> · Fixed a compiz memory corruption issue due to linking (thanks to andyrock too):
14:45 <seb128> Trevinho, oh right, gtk, thanks for the reminder :)
14:45 <Trevinho> floding again
14:45 <Trevinho> what's the last line you got?
14:45 <willcooke> Trevinho, compiz mem corrupiton
14:46 <Trevinho> · Updates to the Remmina and telegram snaps:
14:46 <Trevinho> - https://github.com/FreeRDP/Remmina/commits/next/snap/snapcraft.yaml
14:46 <Trevinho> - https://github.com/3v1n0/telegram-snap/commits/master
14:46 <Trevinho> · Got approved as GNOME Foundation member (\o/)
14:46 <Trevinho> -----
14:46 <willcooke> congrats Trevinho :)
14:46 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
14:46 <willcooke> - snapd-glib 1.35/1.36/1.37 released https://github.com/snapcore/snapd-glib/releases/
14:46 <willcooke> - worked on migrating from reviews.ubuntu.com to ODRS
14:46 <willcooke> - Discussed with GNOME sysadmins about usage of ubuntu group in gitlab.gnome.org
14:46 <willcooke> - GNOME Software bug hunting
14:46 <willcooke> #topic AOB
14:46 <willcooke> seb128, you want to talk about GNOME 3.28 etc
14:47 <seb128> yeah, if needed
14:47 <jbicha> when is didrocks expected back? I need his help for the volume-past-100% merging
14:47 <seb128> thursday
14:47 <seb128> that's blocking the gnome-shell update?
14:48 <Trevinho> Ah, maybe we can talk about distro-patch for fractional too?
14:48 <seb128> I think we are going to need ffes for gnome-shell and gnome-control-center
14:48 <jbicha> we'll have temporary regressions in gnome-shell & gnome-control-center until didrocks has time to handle that
14:48 <seb128> jbicha, do you see other ones being late/not ready to land this week?
14:48 <seb128> well, which means we are not going to land those updates
14:49 <seb128> it's fine, we can land them next week, should be easy to get a ffe still
14:49 <jbicha> I hadn't started the evolution transition because I was hoping gnome-desktop3 would clear first
14:49 <Trevinho> Ah, forgot also to mention in my report that I did a debdiff for fixing
14:49 <Trevinho> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprintd/+bug/1532264
14:49 <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1532264 in fprintd (Ubuntu) "fprintd allows unauthorized root access" [High,Confirmed]
14:49 <Trevinho> if anyone can sponsor it...
14:50 <seb128> Trevinho, I'm adding to my backlog, security might want to comment as well
14:50 <jbicha> there is a minimal gnome-settings-daemon transition needed too. I found a gsd bug yesterday LP: #1751956
14:50 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1751956 in Ubuntu GNOME "gsd-power 3.27.91 crashed with SIGFPE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1751956
14:50 <Trevinho> indeed
14:51 <seb128> jbicha, ideally we would be able to clear the gnome-desktop one in the next days and upload evo before ff
14:51 <seb128> I don't count on gnome-shell and g-c-c before ff
14:51 <seb128> it's not realistic
14:51 <seb128> so let's do a ffe for those next week
14:51 <jbicha> ok
14:51 <seb128> it lets time to Didier to be back and help with the update
14:51 <seb128> and talk about Trevinho's scaling work we might want to distro patch
14:51 <jbicha> gnome-calendar 3.27 is blocked on the libdazzle MIR, do you want that synced now anyway or wait?
14:51 <seb128> please upload
14:52 <seb128> doko said he wanted them to show on component mismatch
14:52 <seb128> so let's please him :)
14:52 <seb128> and that way it's "in" before ff
14:52 <jbicha> Builder might stay at 3.26 (or be a late FF) because the pcre2-revert patch needs to be rebased
14:53 <jbicha> that should be about it for GNOME 3.28 missing pieces
14:53 <seb128> we can ffe that later, it's an universe package
14:53 <seb128> k, thanks
14:53 <seb128> so next topic .. or not
14:53 <Laney> those patches are the worst
14:53 <seb128> dunno if we wanted to discuss gstreamer 1.3
14:53 <jbicha> Laney: what are you thinking with gstreamer 1.4?
14:53 <seb128> it's in Debian experimental now
14:53 <Laney> what's the mp3 situation
14:53 <Laney> ?
14:53 <jbicha> 1.14
14:53 <seb128> willcooke, ^ do you have an update?
14:54 <willcooke> Laney, got the provisional +1 this morning, waiting for a final +1 which is due today.  Probably wise to wait until tomorrow before we act
14:55 <Laney> could do then
14:55 <seb128> good, let's rediscuss it out of the meeting/before acting if needed
14:56 <willcooke> nod
14:56 <seb128> the third item I had on my AOB list was nautilus-share/gnome-user-share
14:56 <jbicha> that's complicated
14:56 <seb128> I didn't have much time to look at the status/think about those
14:56 <seb128> but it sucks to have no working sharing by default
14:56 <jbicha> apparently Ubuntu is unique among GNOME distros for shipping nautilus-share by default?
14:56 <seb128> could be, I'm not familiar with what others distros do
14:57 <jbicha> MIR needed for gnome-user-share to actually work is blocked by security questions LP: #1731065
14:57 <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1731065 in mod-dnssd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] mod-dnssd" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731065
14:58 <jbicha> mdeslaur also suggested that better "cloud" sharing integration (ala Google Drive or whatever) would be more useful :|
14:58 <seb128> no easy way out
14:58 <seb128> I'm not sure we are being able to resolve that in the meeting though
14:58 <willcooke> yeah, I agree
14:59 <seb128> we should probably keep it as an ongoing discussion, I would like to see that solved in some way
14:59 <seb128> but busy cycle, still lot to do, etc :/
14:59 <jbicha> at this point, the gnome-user-share MIR would probably need a FFe
14:59 <seb128> right, I think anything that isn't clearly defined and ready to land is ffe at this point
15:00 <seb128> k
15:00 <seb128> willcooke, I think that was for my items
15:00 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:00 <seb128> dunno if others have some as well
15:00 <Laney> yep
15:00 <Laney> we forgot to review rls-bb-incoming this cycle
15:01 <Laney> that should be an item on the meeting topic after the round every week I think
15:01 <willcooke> ouch, good point
15:01 <Laney> s/topic/agenda/
15:01 <seb128> yeah
15:01 <willcooke> Laney, good call
15:02 <seb128> what do we do then for today?
15:03 <seb128> have a round? do a first review out of the meeting to clear the list first and then start next time?
15:03 <Laney> do it now or do it next week in person?
15:03 <willcooke> I was going to say, lets do it in person next week, we should be able to get through them quicker
15:03 <seb128> I would vote for next week, but if people would prefer now I'm not going to opposite it
15:03 <seb128> also people are really busy with ff work now
15:03 <kenvandine> +1 for next week
15:04 <seb128> so let's maybe go back to focus on work
15:04 <willcooke> +1
15:04 <seb128> I'm also going to clean out a bit the list, there is noise on it
15:04 <seb128> k
15:04 <seb128> sounds like consensus for next week then
15:04 <willcooke> jibel already added it to the list
15:04 <willcooke> :)
15:04 <willcooke> anything else?
15:04 <willcooke> Trevinho, lets talk distro patch next week
15:05 <willcooke> k, going to wrap in 10...
15:05 <willcooke> 9..
15:05 <willcooke> #endmeeting