15:30 <seb128> #startmeeting
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 21 15:30:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <seb128> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron, hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <flexiondotorg> o/
15:31 <Trevinho> \o
15:32 <seb128> oh Trevinho is around, didn't see you for a while! how are you?
15:32 <andyrock> o/
15:32 <seb128> hey flexiondotorg Trevinho andyrock
15:32 <seb128> k, give a minute for others to wake up and let's start
15:32 <Trevinho> seb128: I'm good, I'm always here... Just silent :-)
15:32 <Laney> hi
15:32 <Trevinho> seb128: you?
15:32 <Laney> Trevinho: you should bond with the team :(
15:32 <flexiondotorg> Hi seb128
15:33 <Trevinho> Laney: you know... I love to chat in real  life, more than in IRC..
15:33 <Trevinho> :-/
15:34 <Laney> :'(
15:34 <seb128> k, let's start!
15:35 <seb128> #topic andyrock
15:35 <seb128> andyrock, hey
15:35 <andyrock> hey
15:35 <andyrock> still working on cr
15:35 <andyrock> got the gbm buffer backend working
15:35 <andyrock> I'm cleaning the code to push it in our branch
15:35 <andyrock> eof
15:36 <seb128> thanks andyrock
15:36 <seb128> #topic attente
15:36 <seb128> attente, hey
15:37 <attente> hey, sorry
15:37 <seb128> no worry
15:37 <seb128> ready or should we go back to you at the end?
15:37 <attente> just been working on the gtk-mir backend
15:37 <attente> that's pretty much all i have to say
15:37 <seb128> k, thanks attente
15:38 <seb128> #topic desrt
15:38 <seb128> desrt, hey
15:39 <seb128> no desrt?
15:39 <seb128> #topic dgadomski
15:39 <seb128> dgadomski, hey
15:39 <Laney> hackfest?
15:39 <dgadomski> hey
15:39 <seb128> there is an hackfest?
15:39 <dgadomski> * I'm chasing some bluetooth (bluez) issues (reported bug #1674680, but more are coming). Can you give me any advice who can I talk to in this area?
15:39 <ubot5> bug 1674680 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Deprecated rfcomm.conf still mentioned" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1674680
15:39 <seb128> was not in will's "what's up this week" email on monday
15:39 <seb128> but maybe
15:40 <attente> oh right. it's the gtk one in london
15:40 <seb128> oh ok
15:40 <desrt> hey.  hackfest :)
15:40 <desrt> just remembered about the meeting :)
15:40 <seb128> desrt, next time summary via email please
15:40 <desrt> sorry.  i thought i'd be on IRC but i got sucked into a conversation
15:40 <seb128> no worry
15:40 <seb128> want to go now?
15:40 <desrt> sure.  not must to say, really
15:40 <seb128> dgadomski, try konrad or TheMuso
15:41 <dgadomski> thanks seb128
15:41 <seb128> yw
15:41 <dgadomski> that's it
15:41 <seb128> thanks dgadomski
15:41 <seb128> #topic desrt
15:41 <desrt> spending lots of time talking to smcv about the ways that dbus can be made better to support dconf-proxy style helpers
15:41 <seb128> desrt, your turn then, I hope you have fun at the hackfest :-)
15:41 <desrt> we worked out a really nice solution for that.  need to chase it up with someone on the snappy side to see if they find that to be useful as well
15:41 <seb128> great
15:41 <desrt> ya.  it's really nice.  lots of good people here :)
15:41 <seb128> excellent
15:41 <seb128> enjoy it!
15:41 <desrt> any hint for who i should talk to in snaps?
15:41 <desrt> start with mvo? :)
15:42 <seb128> what exactly do you need from the snap team?
15:42 <desrt> i just want to find out if they like this new API and/or if they have suggestions for things that would help them
15:42 <seb128> if it's dbus/proxy maybe try t_yhicks or j_dstrand
15:42 <desrt> because it dramatically simplifies the writing of services that are meant to interact with confined applications
15:42 <desrt> sure
15:42 <flexiondotorg> desrt What seb128 said :-)
15:42 <seb128> but yeah otherwise m_vo is probably a good bet
15:43 <seb128> he can redirect you to whoever is right
15:43 <desrt> anyway.  i've taken quite enough time :)
15:43 <desrt> eof.
15:43 <seb128> thanks desrt
15:43 <seb128> #topic FJKong
15:43 <seb128> FJKong, hey
15:43 <FJKong> hey
15:43 <FJKong> input method can't be used on some snaps (ex: moonplayer and rssreader)
15:43 <FJKong> I take long time to reproduce it on different os version (16.04 16.10)and qt version
15:43 <FJKong> #1644781 Sushi-start fails with 16.10 upgrade, both Unity and Mate
15:43 <FJKong> verify it to test padding feature under Mate
15:43 <FJKong> eof
15:43 <seb128> thanks FJKong
15:43 <seb128> #topic flexiondotorg
15:43 <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey
15:43 <flexiondotorg> Hi all
15:44 <flexiondotorg> I was sick a couple of days last week and had a day off Friday.
15:44 <seb128> oh :-( hope you are better!
15:44 <flexiondotorg> Apart from that I've mostly been working on documentation, videos and examples for Electron and nodejs developers to snap their software.
15:45 <flexiondotorg> I'm presenting at the London Nodejs User Group tomorrow night.
15:45 <flexiondotorg> eof
15:45 <flexiondotorg> I am recovered :-)
15:46 <seb128> thanks flexiondotorg and good luck for the user group presentation
15:46 <flexiondotorg> ty
15:46 <seb128> #topic happyaron
15:46 <seb128> happyaron, hey, there or should I copy the summary you emailed?
15:46 <seb128> guess I copy
15:46 <seb128> 1. bug #1672749: lxd assumes zfs kernel module is always available
15:46 <seb128> 2. bug #1673197: zfs root pool breakage fix
15:46 <seb128> 3. Tries to reproduce wpa_supplicant crash bug #1651799 at office lab,
15:46 <seb128> the problem is reported frequently in errors.u.c
15:46 <seb128> 4. Review and help on ubuntukylin-wallpapers for which they are doing
15:46 <ubot5> bug 1672749 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "Please don't assume zfs module is always loaded" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672749
15:46 <seb128> it on their own for the first time
15:46 <ubot5> bug 1673197 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "Upgrading zfs-initramfs breaks booting from a zfs root" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1673197
15:46 <ubot5> bug 1651799 in wpa (Ubuntu) "/sbin/wpa_supplicant:11:p2p_group_assoc_resp_ie:send_assoc_resp:handle_assoc:ieee802_11_mgmt:ap_mgmt_rx" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1651799
15:46 <seb128> thanks happyaron!
15:46 <seb128> #topic hikiko
15:47 <seb128> * u7 - lowgfx: approved
15:47 <seb128> * chromium mir:
15:47 <seb128> working on input events:
15:47 <seb128> - creating a mir platform in ui/events/platform similar to the x11, in order to translate the mir events to ui events that can be dispatched and used by ozone.
15:47 <seb128> EOF
15:47 <seb128> #topic Laney
15:47 <seb128> Laney, hey!
15:47 <Laney> sup
15:47 <Laney> • short week, off for 2 days
15:47 <Laney> • new gtk, new glib, new g-i
15:47 <Laney> • debug a gjs crash with upstream (breaking libsecret tests), fix that
15:47 <Laney> • fix to glib tests for new tzdata
15:47 <Laney> • packaging for new default wallpaper, contest ones still pending
15:47 <Laney> • fix the appstream generator cloud stuff to support dropping arches, needed now that ppc is gone in zesty - currently testing on staging
15:47 <Laney> • review a britney branch for rob_ru
15:47 <Laney> • review a pull-lp-source branch for dd_street
15:47 <Laney> 🏞️
15:48 <attente> thanks for gtk Laney
15:48 <Laney> mmm
15:48 <Laney> not very happy about it
15:48 <Laney> but there we go
15:48 <Laney> gtk-mir users should be pleased
15:48 <attente> yeah...
15:49 <seb128> speaking about britney, unsure who did the "your package is stucked in proposed email" thing but that might need tweaking to not email 1 day after when it's just that infra is busy
15:49 <seb128> what happened to gtk/gtk-mir which you are not fully happy about?
15:50 <attente> the s390x no-mir hack
15:50 <seb128> oh, the s390x thing
15:50 <Laney> there's a bug about fixing that
15:50 <seb128> right
15:50 <seb128> thanks Laney
15:50 <Laney> don't think anybody is working on it
15:50 <seb128> :-(
15:50 <seb128> k, let's keep moving
15:50 <seb128> qengho is out so I'm next
15:50 <seb128> #topic seb128
15:50 <seb128> • had a day off on friday
15:50 <seb128> • tested zesty daily
15:50 <seb128> • reviewed new u8 ubuntu print packages for NEW
15:50 <seb128> • tried to debug the zesty sessioninstaller issue on my xenial, was not a good idea, spent some time restoring a working machine then went the vm way
15:50 <seb128> • usual share of discussions & bugs triaging
15:51 <seb128> </week>
15:51 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark
15:51 <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - published LibreOffice 5.3.1/snap on amd64 in sync with upstream
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice 5.3/zesty to 5.3.1 (thanks _jbicha for sponsoring)
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - some coordination for Perugia Hackfest (I hope to attend): https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Perugia2017
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - found, analysed and proposed a solution for debian bug 858199 (simple, once you figured out what went wrong), cherry-picked the debian commits to zesty as -0ubuntu2
15:51 <ubot5> Debian bug 858199 in libreoffice-dev-common "broken /usr/include/libreoffice/sal/typesizes.h symlink on !amd64" [Grave,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/858199
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - had to protect some upstream volunteer contributors from ranting fools shouting about their pet peeves: L3 support isnt a free lunch, esp.  not if you didnt even test betas
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - tdf#34653 mentoring/code review
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - some upstream code refactoring/cleanup for sanity
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - some more backups, rotating auth tokens, setup new machine. Found it has a dead speaker _after_ completely move my workflow on it. annoying.
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - TDF admin, some leadership
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - there is a job offer at TDF, please share with friends: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2017/03/14/development-mentor/
15:51 <Sweet5hark> - libreoffice 1:5.3.1-0ubuntu2 still running as the meeting started, so there is finally hope those will complete for zesty
15:51 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:51 <seb128> thanks Sweet5hark
15:52 <seb128> btw you might want to put the "_" in the middle of the nicknames rather than at the start to avoid pinging people
15:52 <seb128> #topic TheMuso
15:52 <seb128> * More testing on a patch that was included in a point release upstream for at-spi2-core to prevent crashes, just missed the freeze, but should be ok to get into zesty as a patch now that I'm sure it works fine.
15:52 <seb128> * Foolowed up with Konrad about pulse and bluetootha dn bluez in Xenial, haven't heard back yet.
15:52 <seb128> * Re-familiarizing myself with various bits and pieces to try and help a bit with FTBFS where I can in coming weeks before release.
15:52 <seb128> * More ubiquity a11y debugging, not having much luck tracking down the issue I'm seeing with Orca not reading some installer pages, and then other times they work fine. Will continue to investigate.
15:52 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
15:52 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
15:52 <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Some further testing, applied upstream bug fixes to Zesty package.
15:52 <tkamppeter> - system-config-printer: As IPP-over-USB is designed for driverless printing and conventional drivers (like HPLIP) do not necessarily work with it, made system-config-printer's UDEV-triggered queue auto-generator use driverless PPDs generated from IPP-polling the printer.
15:52 <tkamppeter> - The two changes above fix the use of IPP-over-USB printers in Ubuntu and allow driverless printing via USB, possibly enabling 100s of additional printers which did not work before under Linux (inkjets from Brother, Canon, ..., cheap lasers, ...). If you are able to print on your printer directly from a smartphone this printer probably will also work under Zesty.
15:52 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2017: Continued on student selection and preparation.
15:52 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
15:53 <seb128> tkamppeter, nice work on getting ipp-over-usb to work!
15:53 <seb128> thanks tkamppeter
15:54 <seb128> #topic Trevinho
15:54 <Laney> nice
15:54 <seb128> hey Trevinho
15:54 * Laney learns about printing from a smartphone too
15:54 <Laney> never thought about doing that
15:54 <Trevinho> · Rewritten snap-preload to use C++14 variardic template and adding some more functionalities
15:54 <Trevinho> · Fixed some issues of the hikiko unity lowgfx branch
15:54 <Trevinho> · Rewritten the lowgfx ucc panel
15:54 <Trevinho> /eof
15:54 <seb128> Trevinho, is the ucc change up for review?
15:54 <seb128> or do you plan to land that this cycle or next?
15:54 <seb128> (rewrite probably needs a ffe)
15:55 <Trevinho> seb128: not yet as I'm doing some stuff to support changing the vars in systemd too
15:55 <Trevinho> seb128: hikiko opened a FFe bug, not sure the status of that yet... But I can wait for next in case
15:55 <seb128> k
15:56 <seb128> thanks Trevinho
15:56 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
15:56 <seb128> - Complete snapd-qt regression tests, fix bugs in snapd-qt
15:56 <seb128> - Chasing down gnome-software bugs
15:56 <seb128> - si
15:56 <seb128> ups
15:56 <seb128> 3.24.0 release
15:56 <seb128> - Email catching up...
15:56 <seb128> (sorry selection issue)
15:57 <seb128> #topic aob
15:57 <Laney> si, señor
15:57 <seb128> did I forget anyone? any other topic?
15:57 <seb128> lol
15:57 <seb128> la playa!
15:59 <seb128> no topic I guess?
15:59 <seb128> zesty beta is coming
15:59 <seb128> Laney, you probably are the one atm who has the best overview of the desktop status on zesty, is there anything concerning you or things we should pick up as a team/need to sort out that you know?
16:01 <seb128> anyway can discuss that after the meeting
16:02 <seb128> let's wrap then
16:02 <seb128> thanks everyone
16:02 <seb128> #endmeeting