15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2017-02-07
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb  7 15:30:27 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <willcooke> Lots of people out today
15:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt,  dgadomski(out), fjkong, flexiondotorg, happyaron (hols), hikiko, laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark (out), themuso (out), tkamppeter (hols), trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:30 <hikiko> hi
15:30 <seb128> hey Trevinho!
15:30 <seb128> _o/
15:30 <flexiondotorg> o/
15:31 <qengho_> Hey! I'm here.
15:31 <Trevinho> o/
15:31 <Trevinho> (hi seb128)
15:31 <Trevinho> (and Laney )
15:31 <Trevinho> (and others...)
15:31 <desrt> word.
15:33 <willcooke> let's start
15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:33 <willcooke> # worked on u8 branches after review
15:33 <willcooke> # some reviews
15:33 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:33 <attente> hey
15:33 <attente> set up a ppa for general gtk-mir testing: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/gtk-mir
15:33 <attente> best to test with miral-shell instead of u8. there are some weird scaling issues with u8 (doesn't render windows if the width or height are greater than 480 o.O)
15:34 <attente> (eof)
15:34 <willcooke> nice one, thanks attente
15:34 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:34 <desrt> hai
15:34 <desrt> had a couple of part days due to travel, but still a pretty good week
15:34 <desrt> lots of good conversations at fosdem, and reviewed a bunch of patches (in-person nagging is very effective)
15:35 <desrt> work continues on the proxy.  it's shaping up pretty nicely, and i expect it to be usableish by next meeting
15:35 <desrt> apparmor patches still outstanding :/
15:35 * willcooke makes a note to chase again
15:35 <desrt> basically, aiming for gnome freezes here
15:35 <desrt> eof
15:36 <attente> feature freeze in a little over a week too...
15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt
15:36 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:36 <willcooke> * working on bug #1598183 (testing patches suggested in upstream bug)
15:36 <willcooke> * trying to reproduce bug #1646585
15:36 <willcooke> * researching for bug #1654696
15:36 <ubot5> bug 1598183 in gvfs "Operation not permitted while writing to symlinked fuse locations" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1598183
15:36 <ubot5> bug 1646585 in Nvidia "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646585
15:36 <ubot5> bug 1654696 in Nvidia "Ubuntu 16.04 Desktop ubiquity documentation is lacking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1654696
15:36 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:36 <FJKong> hi
15:37 <FJKong> could you give me 1 min to prepare the update?
15:37 <willcooke> FJKong, sure
15:37 <FJKong> thx
15:37 <willcooke> #topic flexiondotorg
15:37 <flexiondotorg> Time appropriate greetings!
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Providing snap assistance to about a dozen ISVs and upstream projects currently.
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Drinking our own champagne. If there is a snap I've apt purged the debs and installed the snaps.
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Spotify snap tested by Spotify. Had feedback from Spotify, more improvements in progress and close to upstreaming. Meeting with them on Thursday.
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Assisting the Raspberry Pi Foundation with adding AppArmor to their kernel.
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Introduced Chad to John Cox from the Raspberry Pi Foundation regarding Chromium patches.
15:37 <flexiondotorg> - Tested snaps, in particular classic snaps, on Ubuntu 14.04 (broken, but being fixed) and Debian 9 (working). snapd in Debian has had reexec reinstated recently.
15:38 <flexiondotorg> - Helping some upstream Electron apps get snapping using pure Snapcraft and electron-builder. This is preparation ahead of more focused out reach to a number of high profile Electron projects.
15:38 <flexiondotorg> 🎬
15:38 <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg
15:38 <hikiko> +nice ascii
15:38 <flexiondotorg> snap install emoj ;-)
15:39 <willcooke> flexiondotorg, hikiko is working on the Mir b/e for Cr.  That will help / be of interest to Electron apps too soon.
15:39 <willcooke> (plus andyrock is going to be helping on that too)
15:39 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:39 <hikiko> hi
15:39 <hikiko> chromium: learning how gn and ninja work - i am now able to get compile errors
15:39 <hikiko> from an almost empty "mir platform" under ozone (chromium doesn't use makefiles),
15:39 <hikiko> got a look at mirclient code and mir basics, mir/miral servers etc
15:39 <hikiko> lowgfx: fixed compiz (old lowgfx parts), some errors, about to do the review's fixes in ucc
15:40 <hikiko> eof :)
15:40 <hikiko> sorry
15:40 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:40 <willcooke> :)
15:40 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:41 <Laney> ah crap, finding an emoji, one sec
15:41 <Laney> OK!
15:41 <Laney> • Went to FOSDEM - travelled & had a swap day
15:41 <Laney> ∘ pink killer
15:41 <Laney> • Verified gst 1.8.3 for xenial. It got released, but turns out there's a problem in -libav. Was only in proposed for like 3 months. Debugged that and filed an upstream bug https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=778283 to see how they want it to be fixed.
15:41 <willcooke> lol
15:41 <ubot5> Gnome bug 778283 in gst-libav "gst-libav 1.8.3 loses encoders/decoders vs 1.8.2 when built with system ffmpeg 2.8.10" [Normal,New]
15:41 <desrt> ...the important things in life
15:41 <Laney> • asgen
15:41 <Laney> ∘ worked on & pushed an efficiency improvement around base suites & stable releases
15:41 <Laney> ∘ backported appstream to x/y
15:41 <Laney> ∘ updated asgen in staging, tested the above fix, updated in production
15:41 <Laney> ∘ as a bonus it should have fixed some other packages (e.g. wine works now)
15:41 <Laney> • autopkgtest
15:41 <desrt> +1 on pink killer
15:41 <Laney> ∘ made it so that autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud and autopkgtest-virt-qemu can be used fully offline if you have a local archive mirror and a cloud image to hand (means you can run tests on the train for the next item)
15:41 <Laney> ∘ worked on kernel oops detection in qemu runner during fosdem train - partially works, needs a bit more effort
15:41 <Laney> ∘ issue with cp OOMing(!) on s390x when testing some packages, turned out to be hitting the limit on the lxc cgroup, which we were configuring to be 1800M. Raised that a bit
15:41 <Laney> 🍶
15:42 <willcooke> :D
15:42 <willcooke> thanks a lot Laney
15:42 <willcooke> qengho, are you really here?
15:42 <qengho> Yep.
15:42 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:42 <qengho> I can't do UTC to here math. :(
15:42 <qengho> * in-progress: Debugging assertion failure in latest Chromium. It's a week old now. :( Must fix soon.
15:42 <qengho> * in-progress: Upstreaming Cr patches from RPi dev.
15:42 <qengho> * done: Updated browser test-snap.
15:42 <qengho> * done: Some licensing research for legal team.
15:43 <qengho> Also, helping tor get their bug fixes in X.
15:43 <qengho> eof
15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho!
15:43 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:43 <seb128> Laney, would be good if we had some sort of autopkgtest or such on -av to make sure we don't regress, I've to admit I've no clue how to properly test is to verify the SRU for example
15:43 <seb128> oh
15:43 <seb128> • removed old-unmainted unity scopes from zesty
15:43 <seb128> • reviewed/discussed geonames changes proposed by aacid
15:43 <seb128> • went to fosdem was nice to see $people there, some nice discussions/sessions (including Bjoern's and p_itti's)
15:43 <seb128> • started looking at emails from #is about langpack jobs issues
15:43 <seb128> • trying to keep up with snappy world discussions/changes
15:43 <seb128> • usual distro work (launchpads bugs triages, helped people on IRC, ...)
15:43 <seb128> </week>
15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:44 <willcooke> - Thursday, Tuesday: travel
15:44 <willcooke> - Friday: TDF BoD all-day meeting
15:44 <willcooke> - Saturday, Sunday: FOSDEM
15:44 <willcooke> - Monday, Tuesday: LibreOffice Hackfest https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2017
15:44 <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 snap update
15:44 <willcooke> - found various snap launchpad/store upload issues, workarounds
15:44 <willcooke> - LibreOffice 5.3.0.3 to prereleases ppa
15:44 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:44 <willcooke> * Contined looking into possible patches to backport from pulseaudio upstream for Xenial. Still testing and trying to determine how much can be backported without possibly breaking too much or changing too much of pulseaudio itself, if any. Was going to send a patch list to Konrad, but I haven't yet got a patch list finalized yet.
15:44 <willcooke> * Trying to chase down a race condition at unity 7 desktop load in zesty. Sometimes the unity panel is accessible, sometimes not. For whatever reason, unity-panel-service often starts before at-spi and doesn't end up registerring its presence in the registry daemon.
15:44 <willcooke> * Started looking into possibly getting espeak dropped from main if that hasn't happened automatically already, now that brltty and speech-dispatcher dont explicitly pull in espeak, and use espeak-ng instead.
15:45 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:45 <Trevinho> · Some updates to various snapcraft PRs (tests, refactoring)
15:45 <Trevinho> · Updated Qt patches
15:45 <Trevinho> · Prepared packages update to backport qt patches to ubuntu
15:46 <Trevinho> · attended FOSDEM
15:46 <Trevinho> · Remmina upstream work for snapcraft push through travis
15:46 <Trevinho> EOF
15:46 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
15:46 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
15:47 <willcooke> - Landed snap:// support upstream in gnome-software
15:47 <willcooke> - New features for snapd-glib
15:47 <willcooke> - Small snapd fixes and documentation improvements
15:47 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:47 <FJKong> back
15:47 <FJKong> learn about merge:
15:47 <FJKong> 1 pygtk #1662101 finish and waiting for upload
15:47 <FJKong> 2 subversion still in progressing
15:47 <FJKong> just back from holiday
15:47 <FJKong> not too much to update here
15:47 <FJKong> eof
15:47 <willcooke> thanks FJKong
15:47 <willcooke> #topic AOB
15:48 <willcooke> Anyone got any other news they want to share?
15:48 <Laney> FJKong: no diff on there
15:48 <FJKong> Laney: pygtk?
15:49 <Laney> yes
15:50 <willcooke> If no one has anything, let's close the meeting and Laney and FJKong can continue
15:50 <willcooke> #endmeeting