15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-06-21
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 21 15:30:14 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <willcooke> We're on our way back towards winter. \o/
15:30 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, qengho (out), seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <Trevinho> \o
15:31 <andyrock> o/
15:31 <desrt> o/
15:31 * Sweet5hark reporting in.
15:31 <FJKong> --. .-
15:31 <FJKong> GA
15:32 <seb128> hey
15:33 <Laney> moo
15:33 <willcooke> oki, lets go...
15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:33 <andyrock> #1. Proposed a branch for "[BUG:1460649] Can't unlock screen with last day password (before expired)"
15:34 <andyrock> #2. Almost completed  "[BUG:1593696] Unity Lockscreen fails to show warnings on expiring passwords."
15:34 <andyrock> #3. Reviews
15:34 <andyrock> eof
15:34 <willcooke> #4 Pizza
15:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock
15:34 <andyrock> ahaha
15:34 <willcooke> andyrock, when you get a chance to look at the Nautilus issue please ping me and lets work out what the best options are
15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:35 <andyrock> sure
15:35 <attente> hey, we figured out what the new menu api should look like at the gtk hackfest last week, and i've just been working on implementing it
15:35 <attente> gnome-software sru work
15:35 <attente> (eof)
15:36 <willcooke> thanks attente, let's do a HO in our 1:1 next week and talk about menus
15:36 <attente> sure
15:36 <willcooke> thanks
15:37 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:37 <desrt> hi.
15:37 <desrt> spent last week at the gtk hackfest with attente, which is awesome
15:37 <desrt> convinced upstream that relocatability of libraries in the gnome platform is something that we should aim for as a gnome goal.  ie: it is a bug if a gnome library doesn't support it
15:37 <willcooke> nice!
15:37 <desrt> had the scope/size of the required glib patch increase quite a lot since now i need to make this "The Way" for handling this stuff -- including on mac and windows
15:38 <desrt> talked with alex a lot about flatpak, specifically the portals stuff.  his original proposed design was a bit overengineered in my opinion, and was written in a way that would probably hurt us and/or cause us to have to rewrite a lot of it.  we discussed refactoring it to improve the ability to share things more
15:38 <desrt> i am in the middle of writing up a report from the hackfest wrt. flatpak
15:39 <desrt> eof, i guess
15:39 <willcooke> thanks desrt :))
15:39 <willcooke> desrt, I'll put something in the diary next week to sync on that and the dconf proxy plans / work
15:39 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:40 <desrt> ya.  sorry that this got punted, but relocatability is turning into a bit of a bigger thing
15:40 <dgadomski> hey
15:40 <dgadomski> * working on samba: bug #1592326 & bug #1592327
15:40 <ubot5> bug 1592326 in samba (Ubuntu) "Permissions not inherited by files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592326
15:40 <ubot5> bug 1592327 in samba (Ubuntu) "force create mode not enforced on newly created files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592327
15:40 <dgadomski> * stuck with darktable snap - during the launch something goes crazy creating recursive gschema symlinks, need to look closer into this starting from the gtk-launch wrapper
15:40 <dgadomski> eof
15:41 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:41 <dgadomski> thanks
15:41 <willcooke> dgadomski, let us know if we can help with the snap
15:41 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:41 <FJKong> hey
15:41 <FJKong> Flash BQ Aquaris E4.5 and test for Localization
15:41 <FJKong> day-scope ubuntu-calendar-app unav system settings
15:41 <FJKong> bug/1586903 bug/1555144 bug/1586911 bug/1588630 bug/1588634
15:41 <FJKong> sogou im:
15:41 <FJKong> one bug about blocking login in 16.04LTS
15:41 <FJKong> playing snappy
15:41 <FJKong> eof.
15:42 <willcooke> 73s FJKong
15:42 <FJKong> !
15:42 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:42 <willcooke> 1. Work with Sogou's technical people to help them prepare on the engine things
15:42 <willcooke> 2. Work on the fcitx5 project, which is the next generation
15:42 <willcooke> 3. Sort out libxml2/libxslt backlogs at Debian
15:42 <willcooke> 4. Getting nm-applet/1.2.2 ready
15:42 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:44 <willcooke> we can come back, or please let me have the update by mail hikiko
15:44 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:44 <Laney> she probably melted
15:44 <Laney> • find / research / file a linux bug in LP which caused some ftbfsen
15:44 <Laney> • help with krb5 transition
15:44 <Laney> • some more theme work
15:44 <Laney> ∘ uploaded some more 3.20s to the ppa
15:44 <Laney> • theme reviews, sponsoring, train fun for y/x
15:44 <Laney> • gstreamer 1.8.2 + sru
15:44 <Laney> • review gnome-software sru, revert some snappy changes which need more thought + uploaded that to y/x
15:44 <Laney> • help investigate an apt bug that was making some builds fail, turns out that it's in libstdc++ - so revert the change that exposed that. apt upstream are working on a workaround now
15:44 <Laney> • discover g-s crash, upload file-roller without an empty MimeType in its .desktop (added in an Ubuntu patch) to work around that (asglib is also now fixed)
15:44 <Laney> • glib 2.49.2
15:44 <Laney> 🚵
15:45 <willcooke> we had that bmx guy last week.
15:45 <willcooke> 2 points from Griffindor
15:45 <Laney> yeah
15:45 <Laney> i copied it from that one
15:45 <willcooke> :)
15:45 <willcooke> thanks Laney
15:45 <Laney> since i finished it at 16:44:28
15:46 <willcooke> :D
15:46 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:46 <Laney> it was that or ⓒ or ☺ or ☭
15:46 <willcooke> * Done: New Chromium release, v51.0.2704.79, tested, gave to #secuurity.
15:46 <willcooke> ** I have a story about venerable and eldritch program "tar" changing behavior in 16.10, next time we're all drinking in a bar.
15:46 <willcooke> * In-progress: Replacing deprecated Cr config tool GYP with GN before it's an emergency.
15:46 <willcooke> * In-progress: Dekko mail snap. Strange hang in Qt init.
15:46 <willcooke> * Paused: Awaiting Chromium/Chrome snap security policies in snapd.
15:46 <Laney> which I can remember how to compose key
15:46 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:46 <seb128> • patch pilot shift
15:46 <seb128> • SRU reviews/sponsoring for the team, helped verified some
15:46 <seb128> • lot of snappy
15:46 <seb128> ∘ got translations and datadir relocation mostly working for common GNOME cases
15:46 <seb128> ∘ got evince current stable git loading pdf under strict confinement
15:46 <seb128> ∘ installed flatpak/played a bit with it/looked at how they did some things
15:46 <seb128> ∘ joined discussions on the list and bugs (dbus services, relocation, ...)
15:46 <seb128> ∘ looked at bit to inkscape with t_ed
15:46 <seb128> ∘ learnt a bit more about the details of how snappy work
15:46 <seb128> 
15:46 <seb128> that's it I think
15:46 <willcooke> packed suicase?
15:46 <willcooke> (I havent)
15:46 <seb128> not yet
15:46 <seb128> just a bagpack for 3 days
15:47 <seb128> still need to do that
15:47 <willcooke> oh, that's a good idea, save waiting for checked luggage
15:47 <seb128> and send boarding pass etc
15:47 <Laney> are we going to get another (not) creepy dressing gown picture?
15:47 <willcooke> we live in hope
15:47 <seb128> lol
15:47 <Laney> i found one from prague the other day
15:47 <Laney> this is a theme now
15:47 <willcooke> ha!
15:47 <seb128> all Trevinho's fault
15:48 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - back and forth for snappy PR
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - various LibreOffice snap bits (e.g. "dont ship symbols", dbus discussion ...)
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - filed some snapcraft bugs
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - tested LibreOffice snap in confined mode: seems to work
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - testing to get LibreOffice build with l10n
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice/xenial to 5.1.4 in a ppa build (didnt publish yet)
15:48 <Sweet5hark> - setup a snap-building VM on big bertha, maybe that will shortens the dev cycle
15:48 <Sweet5hark> => next week: planning to go for 5.2.0~rc1 with full l10n on snappy, 5.1.4 LTS backports, and if there is time 5.2.0~rc1 as dpkg
15:48 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:48 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
15:49 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:49 <willcooke> * Spent more time learning how to snap with snapcraft. Managed to get a couple of snaps built and mostly working, need to patch a package to look for a config file in a different place, so need to learn how to implement a custom plugin for now to do this.
15:49 <willcooke> * Started working on the pulseaudio snap, updating it to work with the new snapcraft, and manage to get it built, again without patches. Sed patches are needed to make pulse behave in a snap environment. Will likely have to make configuration changes to probably run it system wide if used in a snappy only environment *sigh*
15:49 <willcooke> * Started looking into teh best way to set up a snappy only environment for testing, mostly for pulse.
15:49 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
15:49 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Video call about printing with lewgacy apps running inside Libertine.
15:49 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting distribution-independent driver packages: Started looking into distributing them as snaps in the Snap Store with the OpenPrinting web site selecting them via the printer's device ID.
15:49 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: CUPS 2.2.x drops System V interface scripts, starting work on the PPD generator in cups-browsed to allow for creating queues for discovered IPP network printers always with PPDs, even if the information the printers report is insufficient, using default values then. The interface script will stay in cups-filters for now but only used if explicitly asked for via cups-browsed.conf.
15:49 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Looked into a crash of pdftoraster on RGB 1-bit-per-color output discovered by a GSoC student.
15:49 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects
15:49 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Filled in the mid-term evaluations for both students for OpenPrinting, both have passed mid-term, meaning that they get the first half of their money now and will continue working with us for the second half of the summer.
15:49 <tkamppeter> - Bugs
15:50 <willcooke> awesome, thanks tkamppeter
15:50 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:50 * Trevinho lost his paste
15:50 <Laney> suuure
15:50 * Trevinho writes
15:50 <Laney> - pizza - selfies
15:50 * Trevinho * Branch for fixing the lockscreen indi
15:51 <Trevinho> * Fixed the lockscreen hotkeys such as the ones for kbd and monitor brightness
15:51 <Trevinho> * Unity8 work for new menu items
15:51 <Trevinho> * About to fix selectors for new gtk
15:52 <Laney> yesssssss
15:52 <Trevinho> (unity side)
15:52 <Trevinho> * compiz reviews
15:52 <Trevinho> * new landing
15:52 <Trevinho> * libwnck release
15:52 <Trevinho> /EOF (sort of)
15:53 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
15:53 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
15:53 <willcooke> - LightDM refactoring and bugfixing for Unity 8 greeter work
15:53 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.19.1, 1.18.2 (SRU) releases
15:53 <willcooke> - Confirmed snappy MIME type SRUs
15:53 <willcooke> - Proposed minimal snapd patch for GNOME Software upstream
15:53 <willcooke> - Booked flights for snappy sprint
15:53 <willcooke> #topic AOB
15:53 <willcooke> Interviews - lots of 1st rounds done.  Some very interesting candidates.  Some 2nd rounds and more 1st rounds next week
15:54 <willcooke> Planning meeting from tomorrow in BOS.  Will report back next week.
15:54 <willcooke> Anyone got anything else?
15:55 <willcooke> going in 5
15:55 <willcooke> 4
15:55 <willcooke> #endmeeting