15:31 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-06-14 15:31 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jun 14 15:31:31 2016 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:31 <meetingology> 15:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:31 <Laney> Trevinho: The unity ones are probably the selectors not matching 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (airport), attente(hackfest), desrt(hackdest), dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko(out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) 15:31 <Trevinho> Laney: as for that is likely 15:31 <Laney> you've got some custom css in there that I should think n eeds refreshing 15:31 <Trevinho> o/ 15:31 <willcooke> desrt, attente - are you really here? 15:31 <seb128> hey! 15:32 <desrt> willcooke: i am here and will is 3m away 15:32 <Laney> miles 15:32 <desrt> that is not the standard meaning of "m" in the SI system 15:32 <Laney> moons 15:32 <larsu> desrt: that's less than 3m 15:32 <Laney> moos 15:33 <Laney> ..."Have you mooed today?"... 15:33 <qengho> 1.5 centifurlongs. 15:33 <desrt> larsu points out that it's more like 2.5m 15:33 <desrt> "from laptop to laptop" 15:33 <desrt> i rounded up 15:33 * larsu gets measuring tape 15:34 <Trevinho> larsu: get your rule out 15:34 <Trevinho> ruler* 15:34 <willcooke> right, lets kick off 15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock 15:34 <willcooke> 1. [BUG:1582430] spinning wheel when opening Rhythmbox from 15:34 <willcooke> Dash/Launcher WHEN it is already playing music - COMPLETED 15:34 <willcooke> 2. [BUG:1460649] Can't unlock screen with last day password (before 15:34 <willcooke> expired) - WIP 15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente 15:34 <willcooke> shall we come back to attente? 15:35 <willcooke> yes 15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt 15:35 <desrt> "did i disconnect or something?" he says 15:35 <desrt> hi 15:35 <desrt> i'm at the hackfest, making uncontroversial blogposts 15:35 <willcooke> :D 15:35 <desrt> we were talking about gtk release stuff yesterday... today we talk about portals, which is nice 15:36 <desrt> tomorrow will be something else :) 15:36 <desrt> attente will be reconnected soon 15:36 <desrt> eof 15:36 <attente> hey, sorry, back 15:36 <willcooke> desrt, any news on the relocatable work you were doing? 15:36 <desrt> right! i should discuss that this afternoon 15:36 <desrt> will let you know 15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt 15:36 <willcooke> #topic attente 15:36 <desrt> i generally have a good vibe 15:37 <attente> prepared sru for g-s, lp:1590508, making one quick change 15:37 <attente> packaged snapd-xdg-open, sru for lp:1580740, needs sponsoring 15:37 <attente> dh-make srus for lp:1592134 and lp:1592136 15:37 <attente> minor fix to mp for lp:1392699 15:37 <attente> ubuntu software snap promotion 15:37 <attente> gtk hackfest this week, menu api re-factor discussion, i think we're mostly converged on a decent api 15:37 <attente> (eof) 15:38 <willcooke> thanks attente 15:38 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski 15:38 <dgadomski> hey 15:38 <dgadomski> * found and reported 2 samba bugs (regressions): bug #1592326 & bug #1592327, reported upstream, debugging & working on a fix 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592326 in samba (Ubuntu) "Permissions not inherited by files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592326 15:38 <ubot5> bug 1592327 in samba (Ubuntu) "force create mode not enforced on newly created files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1592327 15:38 <dgadomski> * started working on a darktable snap - still struggling with some issues to run it correctly 15:38 <dgadomski> eof 15:39 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski 15:39 <willcooke> #topic FJKong 15:39 <FJKong> hi 15:39 <FJKong> * bug tracking could not switch to sogou im in some app 15:39 <FJKong> in processing 15:39 <FJKong> * some warning output when installing package 15:39 <FJKong> * bug 1534492 can't use fcitx in ubuntu-sdk-ide, could not be reproduced yet after upgrading 15:39 <ubot5> bug 1534492 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Can't use fcitx for Chinese with QtCreator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1534492 15:39 <FJKong> * snappy learning 15:39 <FJKong> * public holiday 15:39 <FJKong> eof 15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong - good news about the fcitx im & the sdk 15:40 <willcooke> #topic happyaron 15:40 <happyaron> hey 15:40 <happyaron> * some follow up on nm issues 15:40 <happyaron> * meet with Sogou guys for mobile version, report pending 15:40 <happyaron> was on holidays during Thursday to Friday 15:40 <happyaron> eof 15:40 <willcooke> thanks happyaron 15:40 <willcooke> glad to see the nm srus are moving 15:41 <willcooke> and could you take a look at the email from cking re zfs 15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko 15:41 <willcooke> - OEM project: 15:41 <willcooke> |-- document weeks 2,3 15:41 <willcooke> |-- installed tools, client (connection issues see mail) 15:41 <willcooke> |-- setup the windows partiton etc 15:41 <willcooke> - Compiz/Unity 15:41 <willcooke> |-- scale option in compiz to skip intermediate fade steps: 15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.speed-up-scale 15:41 <willcooke> |-- u7 uses the scale and expo options in low gfx mode: 15:41 <willcooke> https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.skip-expo-scale-fading-steps 15:41 <willcooke> |-- ppa with low gfx mode changes: 15:41 <willcooke> https://launchpad.net/~hikiko/+archive/ubuntu/lgfx 15:41 <willcooke> - Awaiting review: 15:41 <willcooke> |-- shadows for shaped windows: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.shadows-on-existing-pixmaps 15:41 <willcooke> #topic larsu 15:41 <willcooke> oops 15:41 <willcooke> #topic Laney 15:41 <willcooke> old habbits 15:42 <Laney> • theme, now in ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gtk320 for your testification & Trevinho is helping out on some remaining issues, thanks pal xxx 15:42 <Laney> • discuss some API design with hughsie 15:42 <Laney> • merge gtk+3.0 gtk+2.0 baobab adwaita-icon-theme, rebuild aisleriot for ppa 15:42 <Laney> • help with some cdimage issues 15:42 <Laney> 🚵 15:42 <willcooke> thanks Laney 15:42 <seb128> how are we looking on landing or not the new gtk? 15:42 <willcooke> #topic qengho 15:42 <willcooke> oops, sorry seb128 15:42 <seb128> no worry 15:43 <seb128> can be a aob topic 15:43 <willcooke> ack 15:43 <qengho> * snaps. 15:43 <qengho> ** Chrome/chromium security policies coming along. jds is taking most of the hard stuff. 15:43 <qengho> ** claimed dekko mail client. 15:43 <qengho> ** some work on tor browser. 15:43 <qengho> ** minecraft some, but mostly making notes for MSFT to do it now. :( 15:43 <qengho> * Still workign on Chromium FTBFS in builders on Y. Works locally. Same debian/ as 16.04, which works. Need to mimic build-server more. 15:43 <qengho> * /me lives 5 blocks from that club in Orlando. Me and my immediate tribe are okay. Helicopters overhead are distracting. 15:43 <qengho> * away tomorrow 15:43 <qengho> EOF 15:43 <willcooke> thanks qengho 15:43 <willcooke> glad you're all ok 15:44 <willcooke> #topic seb128 15:44 <seb128> • snaps mostly this week 15:44 <seb128> • did snaps for gnome-logs (git gnome-3-18), gucharmap (git trunk), started on evince but it has relocation issues, looked at brasero but probably more work that it's worth (integration with command line utilities and relocation and the project is not that active) 15:44 <seb128> • reported some snapcraft and snapd bugs, joined some IRC/gitter discussions 15:44 <seb128> • usual rounds of SRUs testing, sponsoring and bug triage 15:44 <seb128> </week> 15:44 <willcooke> thanks seb128 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - updated snap from upstream beta1 to beta2 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - moved from monkey-patching to a git-format-patch/git-am patch queue 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - tried a full l10n build, that loops unfortunately, so punted for now 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - made LibreOffice aware of the bundled JRE 15:44 <Sweet5hark> (Unfortunately, for now one still has to go to Tools->Options->Advanced and check the option field for the JRE -- but at least one doesnt have to search for the JRE path) 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - first run doesnt just create config and exit, its now restarted to show a start center on the first run 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - disabled the crashing gtk3 filepickers in the default config, using the LO internal ones for now 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - uploaded and prepared with some basic metadata, but of no use as devmode and store current do play nice together 15:44 <Sweet5hark> - thus uploaded to pcc and blogged about it 15:44 <Sweet5hark> EOF 15:45 <Sweet5hark> oh, speaking of filing snapd/snapcraft issues, yeah should do that 15:45 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark - nice going on the snap 15:45 <willcooke> please do 15:45 <willcooke> oh, could you append a known issues to your blog post? 15:46 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, ^ 15:46 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso 15:46 <willcooke> * Started working on putting some snaps together, got flac and vorbis-tools essentially building, but trying to make sure I haven't missed anything that needs to be included but is not... More reading and learning to do, also hitting a snag when trying to check out from git via https, will ask relevant folks if I am unable to work it out myself. The cdparanoia snap is yet to be started, since that requires accessing particular 15:46 <willcooke> hardware, and I am not up to speed on making sure thats possible yet. 15:46 <willcooke> * Continued working on some alsa related merges, haven't finished due to prioritising snaps. 15:46 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Reviewed Marc Oliver Gern's printing UI design in Unity 8 by his Google document and had a video call with him. 15:47 <tkamppeter> - splix: Synced from Debian. 15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Added quirk rule for Dell PostScript printers to pdftops. 15:47 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released version 1.9.0 with the CUPS page accounting, which was incomplete for long time. Also new in this release: Debug lodding in cups-browsed, fixed hang on system shutdown with systemd, fixed gstoraster error output, many dosumentation fixes. 15:47 <tkamppeter> - OpenPrinting: Updated Ricoh's PPDs on the site and downloadable PPD packages. 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students through their projects 15:47 <tkamppeter> - Bugs 15:47 <tkamppeter> Any news about LSB SRU? 15:48 <willcooke> I chased again on Monday, will speak to them later on 15:48 <tkamppeter> Seems that it will get more urgent in the form of OpenPrinting distro-independent drivers using snap instead of LSB. 15:48 <willcooke> I thought I saw it in the queue, but it was a fix for W 15:48 <tkamppeter> Will Snap replace the LSB soon (in general)? 15:49 <willcooke> I don't know, I think there will be some work to do on the interfaces first 15:49 <willcooke> so, probably not a priority 15:50 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho 15:51 <Trevinho> · Attended Unity8 sprint: 15:51 <Trevinho> - got unity8 running in mir on X (and fixed the issues preventing the whole thing 15:51 <Trevinho> to work if it was inside an LXC container) 15:51 <Trevinho> - fixed some qtmir issues that caused an app (unity8 shell) not being properly 15:51 <Trevinho> focused, and thus not getting input events 15:51 <Trevinho> - Fixed unity8-dash running in proper Mir instance (when unity8 is launched) 15:51 <Trevinho> - Discussed about how to manage menus from both native and libertine apps in u8 15:51 <Trevinho> + Assigned on getting a component to bridge stuff between mir and X surfaces 15:51 <Trevinho> - Got assigned on porting unity8 menus to use ListItemLayout components 15:51 <Trevinho> and then adapting the UI to be usable in pointer-mode 15:51 <Trevinho> · For few days in London: 15:51 <Trevinho> - Working with SDK/design people for the menu stuff 15:51 <Trevinho> - Created some fake Menu models for testing stuff 15:51 <Trevinho> - Implemented first standard menus 15:51 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho, great stuff :) 15:51 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell 15:52 <willcooke> - Snapping up GTK+ apps / filing issues with snappy 15:52 <willcooke> - LightDM work for split greeter / fix issues with Unity 8 15:52 <willcooke> - Fixed up GNOME Software review average calculation 15:52 <willcooke> #topic any other business 15:52 <seb128> I was wondering what we think for the gtk update 15:52 <seb128> and if more help is needed from other team members 15:53 <seb128> Laney, ^ you probably have the best overview there 15:53 <seb128> do you have notes somewhere on what is still to do? 15:53 <seb128> things like maybe the mir backend needing a refresh (was that tested?), knows apps that have an issue 15:53 <Laney> some on https://trello.com/c/EXpA6lKW 15:54 <Laney> would have to get a mir patch if needed before uploading of course 15:54 <Laney> should hope there's not much that wasn't merged in for 3.20 15:56 <seb128> k 15:56 <seb128> let us know if you need help with some fo the remaining things 15:56 <seb128> also unsure how much other flavors are going to be an issue for landing :è/ 15:57 <seb128> xubuntu seems like they have the same issue than us, need to find resources to get their theme updated 15:57 <Laney> usual issue isn't it 15:57 <Laney> but someone has started working on that 15:57 <Laney> i found a bug with a patch 15:57 <seb128> great 15:57 <seb128> k, that was it from me I think 15:58 <Laney> trying the ppa would be good 15:58 <Laney> and I would really like to not be the only person fixing theme issues 15:58 <seb128> I don't even have an y box atm 15:58 <Laney> going from 1 to 0 to 1 people knowing the theme 15:58 <Laney> not ideal 15:58 <seb128> but I'm going to try to give it a try in a vm 15:58 <seb128> yeah 15:58 <seb128> well willcooke knows a bit about it and helped previous cycle 15:59 <seb128> otherwise l_arsu never found somebody to step up helping 15:59 <seb128> so I've a feeling it's going to be the same here 15:59 <willcooke> oops, sorry, was talking elsewhere 15:59 * willcooke reads 15:59 <attente> is anyone available to sponsor this sru? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1580740 15:59 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1580740 in Snappy "[SRU] Cannot open a browser link from a snap that provides a link" [High,Triaged] 16:00 <willcooke> @ themes - happy to pitch in where I can. Also, a new hire can use that as a good learning excercise 16:00 <seb128> attente, did it land in yakkety yet? 16:00 <meetingology> willcooke: Error: "themes" is not a valid command. 16:00 <seb128> needs that before SRU 16:00 <Laney> I mean 16:00 <Laney> I have to be able to get off this onto appstream stuff soon 16:00 <willcooke> speaking of new hires - 3 interviews over the last week - will feedback today (really) 16:01 <Laney> and for that I would like to be able to not have to switch back to theme all the time if possible 16:01 <Laney> wishful thinking :P 16:01 <seb128> right 16:01 <seb128> I'm with you in theory 16:01 <seb128> in practice I don't see anyone stepping up 16:01 <seb128> so if you don't do it, it's just likely that gtk stales on its current version 16:02 <seb128> or maybe somebody from Ubuntu GNOME steps up... 16:02 <seb128> or one of the new hires when we get them 16:02 <seb128> anyway, if anywant wants to help there please do! 16:03 <Laney> fine 16:03 <willcooke> MATE might be able to offer a little help, since their themes are not a million miles away from ours 16:03 <Laney> I was hoping someone on our taem 16:03 <Laney> but if I have to be alone so be it 16:04 <seb128> sorry Laney :-/ 16:04 <Laney> at least Trevinho is going to help out a bit now 16:04 <seb128> :-) 16:04 <attente> seb128: hasn't landed, what's involved there? do i just need to change the debian/changelog release name? 16:04 <seb128> attente, yes, and use different versions for the series 16:04 <Laney> I would like to go work on gnome-software upstreaming too, since nobody is doing that either really 16:04 <Trevinho> Laney: I'm about to run my VM with the stuff in 16:05 * Laney snuggles Trevinho 16:05 <Laney> jbicha: thanks for the fixed nautilus 16:05 <Laney> and firefox 16:05 <seb128> willcooke, I think we are done on that topic 16:06 <willcooke> thanks guys, Laney I can lend a hand if you need something fixing. 16:06 <jbicha> Laney: nautilus 3.20? it still has some issues 16:06 <willcooke> Laney, also see if Robert can help with the u/s 16:06 <Laney> jbicha: background work 16:06 <Laney> s 16:06 <Laney> apart from crossfading 16:06 <willcooke> oki, let's wrap the meeting, thanks everyone 16:06 <willcooke> #endmeeting