15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-26
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 26 15:30:34 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <andyrock> o/
15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks(out?), fjkong, happyaron(out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho(out), robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <didrocks> willcooke: I'm in another meeting
15:31 <larsu> \o
15:31 <Sweet5hark> aye
15:31 <willcooke> didrocks, ack, thanks
15:31 <dgadomski> o/
15:32 <Laney> u-p-s just crashed!
15:32 <Laney> SICKENING
15:32 <larsu> Laney: file a bug. patches welcome :P
15:32 * larsu hides
15:33 <Laney> larsu: you missed "works for me"
15:33 <larsu> ah!
15:33 <larsu> I've never seen it crash
15:33 <larsu> you must be doing something wrong
15:33 <larsu> what's your theme?
15:33 <Laney> clicked the datetime indicator
15:33 <Laney> that is not a supported usecase
15:33 <davmor2> pebcak
15:33 <larsu> ah, haha don't do that, of course
15:34 <willcooke> Right. Let's whizz through this
15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:34 <andyrock> hey all
15:34 <andyrock> 1. Finished and proposed a branch for startup notifications for unity + bamf
15:34 <andyrock> 2. Fixed a bug with dash search hint
15:35 <andyrock> 3. Reviewed, fixed and proposed a community patch to add a "Format..." item
15:35 <andyrock> 4. Some code reviews
15:35 <andyrock> 5. Installed xenail (was not easy)
15:36 <seb128> what issue did you hit installing xenial?
15:36 <andyrock> 6. Started to take a look to changes that must be done in unity* for gnome-software transition
15:36 <andyrock> \eof
15:36 <andyrock> seb128: I had to blacklist nouveau
15:36 <andyrock> it's segfaulting here
15:36 <andyrock> even on a live
15:36 <seb128> :-/
15:36 <Laney> who knows nouveau?
15:36 <Laney> robert?
15:37 <seb128> I doubt he does
15:37 <willcooke> maybe tjaalton has some ideas?
15:37 <seb128> I don't think we have much expertize at Canonical for that
15:37 <seb128> or in the ubuntu-x community
15:37 * larsu sings the song of only using intel graphics with linux
15:38 * desrt joins in for the chorus
15:38 <andyrock> :D
15:38 <tjaalton> could be a mesa bug
15:38 <tjaalton> or kernel
15:38 <Laney> haha
15:38 * larsu sings louder
15:38 <desrt> hells ya, life is good... they opened up the drivers like everyone should!
15:38 <larsu> TO MAKE MY POINT CLEARER
15:38 <tjaalton> 4.4 isn't in xenial yet
15:39 <larsu> desrt: haha!
15:39 <tjaalton> intel regresses all the time, consider yourselves lucky then :)
15:39 <willcooke> davmor2, do you have a machine with nvidia gfx?
15:39 <tjaalton> andyrock: test 4.4 from proposed, or mainline
15:39 <davmor2> willcooke: I do
15:39 <andyrock> I'll do that thanks
15:40 <andyrock> for the moment blacklisting it it's enough for me
15:40 <tjaalton> sure
15:40 <willcooke> davmor2, can you see if it's broken for you as well?
15:40 <willcooke> thanks for the pointers tjaalton
15:41 <tjaalton> I doubt nouveau is generally broken, but on some hw
15:41 <willcooke> oki, would be good to see if we can narrow it down at all
15:41 <willcooke> alright, thanks andyrock.  Lets see if the newer versions are any better
15:42 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:43 <attente> apparmor dconf revisions, submitted again to the apparmor ML...
15:43 <attente> revisions and discussions with upstream about the gtk popup menu branch
15:43 <attente> discussions with mir team at sprint about menu surface api, clipboard support, keymap support, multi-surface in u8
15:43 <attente> fix gtk-mir breakage that happened after the port to GdkSeat api
15:43 <attente> switching over to gnome-software for a bit, some basic ubuntu-sso integration with ubuntu-sso-client, but need to re-write this
15:43 <attente> (eof)
15:43 <willcooke> great stuff, thanks attente
15:43 <Laney> sprint report please!
15:44 <desrt> ((sorry -- i didn't prepare notes.. i just got to the hotel and am very jetlagged))
15:44 <larsu> attente: I hope we are getting PRIMARY selection as well!!!!!1!
15:44 <willcooke> attente, you could pretty much copy & paste our conversation from yesterday
15:44 <attente> true, let me find that
15:45 <willcooke> attente, can you email it round?
15:45 <willcooke> once you've edited as needed etc
15:45 <davmor2> willcooke: sorry for what 16.04 or 14.04.4
15:45 <willcooke> davmor2, 16.04
15:45 <attente> yeah, i'll email it around instead
15:45 <willcooke> thx
15:45 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:45 <desrt> ((sorry -- i didn't prepare notes.. i just got to the hotel and am very jetlagged))
15:45 <davmor2> willcooke: will do give me 20 minutes or so
15:45 <willcooke> davmor2, no immediate hurry
15:45 <desrt> but this week larsu and i will be sprinting with gnome
15:46 <desrt> and fosdem this weekend
15:46 <desrt> hope to see you all there :)
15:46 <willcooke> have fun desrt
15:46 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:46 <dgadomski> hey, still no new desktop issues were reported to me
15:47 <willcooke> yay!
15:47 <dgadomski> :)
15:47 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:47 <dgadomski> thanks
15:47 <willcooke> #topic FJKong_
15:47 <FJKong_> * bug#1534492 Can't use fcitx for Chinese with QtCreator
15:47 <FJKong_> fixed,waiting for update
15:47 <FJKong_> * tracking bug:
15:47 <FJKong_> can't use IM in one of screen of dual-monitor.
15:47 <FJKong_> need more infomation
15:47 <FJKong_> * input method doesn't work after upgrade
15:47 <FJKong_> should be wrong skin problem, still in progress
15:47 <FJKong_> eof
15:48 <willcooke> great, thanks FJKong_
15:48 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:48 <willcooke> 1. Worked on crash debugging of a sogou crash, handed to Fanjun for after that
15:48 <willcooke> 2. Worked on ibus 1.5.12's unexpected ABI incompatibility
15:48 <willcooke> 3. SRUs for ubuntukylin were deferred a bit (now it is the on the top
15:48 <willcooke> of my list)
15:48 <willcooke> 4. Day to day use of new fonts-noto-cjk configuration for several days
15:48 <willcooke> and looks all good for upload
15:48 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:49 <hikiko> I'm very close to fix the last bugs on shadows. I changed the code to use the existing unity shadow windows and pixmaps instead of quads that had a texture with the shape and this has fixed all the artifacts I had due to the wrong window placement on unity (when I use unity windows compiz can draw them in order even when they are not but this doesn't apply to quads), the problem I have atm is a small bug on rendering: I have a quad with the
15:49 <hikiko> shadow texture which I can verify is correct in size, color and alpha because I can store its texture as png image on my disc (screenshot here: https://i.imgur.com/ZoSQqtR.png?1 the cairo.png) but it doesn't appear at all when I draw it on the unity window (black quad around the shaped window in the screenshot), I intend to fix that by tomorrow and do the MP. If I find some time @the future I;ll try to debug the unity windows ordering and
15:49 <hikiko> make a proper fix because we might need to add other features in the future. eof
15:50 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:50 <willcooke> will be good to put this one to bed :)
15:50 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:50 <Laney> • Poked at gnome-software not making use of available appstream metadata, turned out to be a bug in my script :$
15:50 <Laney> • Spent a lot of time (again) fixing test regressions to get glib2.0 in - all outstanding ones fixed (sphinx, autopilot, ubuntu-sso-client, others) besides udisks2/ppc64el which was overridden :(
15:50 <Laney> • patch piloted :D
15:50 <Laney> • uploaded u-s-d u-c-c ubuntu-themes to fix random things - had to revert part of u-s-d (from attente) since it seemed to break some keyboard shortcuts for me, sorry! :'(
15:50 <Laney> • fixed broken sessioninstaller :/
15:50 <Laney> • poked at some MIRs, libgcab pyotherside :)
15:50 <Laney> • set up a local appstream extractor deployment in prep for the sprint :o
15:50 <Laney> ☸
15:51 <willcooke> awesome, thanks a lot Laney
15:51 <willcooke> #topic larsu
15:52 * Laney just saw apt downloading at 3,001 PB/s
15:52 <larsu> hey! The main two things for me this week were: adding an index to the geonames db, so that it can have multiple known names for a city
15:52 <larsu> think London/Londres
15:52 <larsu> or Munich/München
15:52 <larsu> I decided against limiting this to the current locale - to complex and not worth it for the amount of data we have
15:53 <larsu> the other one is playing with the completion window again to make it flicker less
15:53 <larsu> otherwise same as desrt: going to a hackfest tomorrow (but continue working on this for the most part) and fosdem + mini sprint with Laney after
15:53 <larsu> </larsu>
15:53 <willcooke> thanks larsu, happy trails
15:54 <larsu> thanks :)
15:54 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:55 <willcooke> humm, he was here a minute a go
15:55 <willcooke> we'll come back, because I know he's got a question
15:56 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:56 <seb128> * travelled to UbuCon/Scale
15:56 <seb128> </week>
15:56 <willcooke> :) thanks seb128
15:56 <seb128> yw!
15:56 <larsu> haha
15:56 <larsu> nice one
15:56 <Laney> trip report please!
15:56 <seb128> lol
15:56 <Sweet5hark> hrhr
15:56 <willcooke> qengho, are you back?
15:57 <seb128> Laney, I didn't really took note, was more a "meet people & talk with them" than formal presentations
15:57 <seb128> qengho is having issues with meetings
15:58 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:58 <seb128> well at least he didn't paste his report when it was my turn this time :p
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - 5.1.0~rc2 is in the ppa, looks good enough to me to be a initial xenial upload
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - work on snappy:
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- got a build to succeed reliably from scratch (hackish though)
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- trying to play with the resulting .snap
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- threw away my old manual VirtualBox VM to use vagrant proper for that
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- couldnt get snappy running in vagrant so far (image seems to loop right in booting the kernel)
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - really need to get slides for FOSDEM in shape
15:58 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:58 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
15:58 <seb128> Sweet5hark, great, let me know when you need sponsoring ... and how is your DMB application going?
15:58 <Sweet5hark> seb128: urgh
15:59 <willcooke> Sweet5hark, if you are stuck on snappy let me know and I can help find someone to unblock you
15:59 <Sweet5hark> seb128: how is the DMB application to trip report exchange rate?
15:59 <seb128> Sweet5hark, oh, indeed, don't forget to make a trip report after fosdem ;-)
16:00 <willcooke> lots of trip reports to read next week then
16:00 <Sweet5hark> seb128: yeah
16:00 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
16:00 <willcooke> * Prepared pulse 8 for upload to Xenial... Just waiting on the Debian maintainer to upload to experimental, so I can treat it as a merge, should be within a day or so.
16:00 <willcooke> * Made changes to the Orca gsettings backend, splitting out some settings a little bit, and adding some descriptions to some settings. Awaiting a response from upstream.
16:00 <willcooke> * The a11y profile manager library is functionally complete, now to right a command-line tool to work with it, and the integration code.
16:00 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
16:01 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Printing with on-demand call of avahi-daemon, cupsd, and cups-browsed finally works, including the shutdown of the daemons, finally works now.
16:01 <tkamppeter> - Phone: Wrote a script to demonstrate how the print dialog on the phone is supposed to work.
16:01 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Released 1.8.0 and 1.8.1, cleaning up the COPYING file and the copyright headers of the CUPS-inherited source files, making the Braille printing support work with only dependencies from Ubuntu Main. do not disable queues when avahi-daemon goes away.
16:01 <tkamppeter> - Uploaded updated cupd-filters to unblock build of CUPS.
16:01 <tkamppeter> - Talked with a volunteer contributor on IRC who wants to add AirPrint (as a client) support to cups-filters and HTTP scanning support to SANE.
16:01 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
16:01 <willcooke> awesome, thanks tkamppeter
16:01 <willcooke> looking forward to seeing people printing from Ubuphones soon
16:02 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
16:02 <willcooke> - GNOME Software review feature
16:02 <willcooke> - LightDM 1.16.7, 1.17.4 released
16:02 <willcooke> - MIRs for GNOME Software
16:02 <willcooke> #topic qengho
16:02 <willcooke> are you back online qengho ?
16:02 <willcooke> guess not
16:03 <seb128> :-/
16:03 <willcooke> #topic aob
16:03 <willcooke> Safe and fun travels to all going to FOSDEM etc
16:03 <willcooke> once you're back please get started on sprint travel if you havent already
16:03 <willcooke> also please think about confs for the next year and fill in the confs sheet
16:04 <willcooke> anyone else got anything to share?
16:04 <seb128> no
16:04 <larsu> seb128: how do you know?
16:05 <seb128> larsu, know that?
16:05 <seb128> by "no" I meant "not me"
16:05 <seb128> if that's what you mean
16:05 <seb128> and I know that I don't have anything else to share because I know myself? :p
16:05 <willcooke> alright, lets wrap
16:05 <willcooke> thanks all
16:06 <seb128> thanks!
16:06 <willcooke> qengho, if you drop back in let me know
16:06 <willcooke> #endmeeting