15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-01-12
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Jan 12 15:30:38 2016 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <seb128> o/
15:31 <desrt> hihi
15:31 <andyrock> o/
15:31 <dgadomski> o/
15:31 <didrocks> hey!
15:31 <FJKong> hi
15:32 <larsu> hey
15:32 <Sweet5hark> hi
15:33 <willcooke> let's get started then
15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:33 <andyrock> I've been working on the startup notification branch for bamf and unity
15:33 <andyrock> now that Trevinho is back and I can use his knowledge should be easy to finish the branch
15:34 <andyrock> \eof
15:34 <willcooke> thanks andyrock
15:34 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:34 <attente> hi all
15:34 <attente> finished gtk popup menu revisions, but won't be merged upstream until a working wayland implementation also exists
15:34 <attente> currently making some final apparmor dconf revisions...
15:34 <attente> (eof)
15:35 <willcooke> thanks attente, happy travels for next week
15:35 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:35 <desrt> hey
15:36 <desrt> ended up spinning my wheels a lot this week and didn't get a whole lot done, unfortunately
15:36 <desrt> eof.
15:36 <willcooke> thanks desrt
15:36 <willcooke> hope you get traction ;)
15:36 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:36 <dgadomski> hey, just a single thing today:
15:36 <dgadomski> * testing -proposed packages fixing bug #1337873 on Trusty, Wily, apparently there was a regression on armhf so I have prepared new debdiffs with pitti's fix
15:36 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Wily) "ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873
15:36 <dgadomski> EOF
15:37 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:37 <dgadomski> thanks
15:37 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
15:37 <didrocks> hey
15:37 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
15:37 <didrocks> - Releasing Ubuntu Make 16.01 bringing some new features from below and previous weeks. https://plus.google.com/+DidierRoche/posts/d7CcoGrvUnX!
15:37 <didrocks> - Reviewing and helping on two pull requests that are now merged in from a new contributor. We always get latest Unity3D beta version (with some flexible parsing as they change their formats regularly) and also latest Eclipse! Welcome to eclipse java Mars instead of Luna! Adapt tests to always fetch latest and greatest as well on those 2 frameworks (which were the only ones where we had to hardcode
15:37 <didrocks> specific version previously).
15:37 <didrocks> - Making some fixes and helping on another review for Swift support. Blocked right now on a gpg import key issues when euid != uid (it's a gpg protection), but that doesn't help when needing sudo.
15:37 <didrocks> - Continue on working on the autopkgtests infrastructure (ensure system tests are running as expected) and doing first test runs. medium and large tests are not passing on the official infra (under debugging). Adding wrapper to it, exposing new attributes (ppa, vcs branches) to run-autopktests archive admin and release manager tools.
15:37 <didrocks> - Rework foreign architecture addition and detection to ensure we only call it once (we were calling them once per package previously), fix some races. Move this facility to tools and restructure tests for this.
15:37 <didrocks> - Add locks to avoid a race condition when creating temp file (to not create them as root) and add a new contextwrapper for as_root() with its tests.
15:37 <didrocks> - Drop sshpass in favor of ssh key for docker image connection
15:37 <didrocks> - A lot of smaller fixes for more test robustness, restructuration, env leaking (check for https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-make/commit/e2f0cb2b31959c4f7d67fb76d1e1de4a9639cf1a for details)
15:37 <didrocks> Misc:
15:37 <didrocks> - fix lubuntu plymouth theme upgrade bug (wily -> xenial). Fix their postrm to ensure we don't trigger this issue (present for years in the packaging) in the future.
15:37 <didrocks> - google code in: review a --list and --list-installed PR on Ubuntu Make (the student will pause for 2 weeks though) + desktop file for logout/shutdown/reboot. both still in progress. Another one on format option in unity (pushed to andyrock as he needs some guidance)
15:37 <didrocks> .
15:38 <willcooke> thanks didrocks
15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:38 <FJKong> Sogou IM update:
15:38 <FJKong> 1 research on testing code on extrace each frame and time from file
15:38 <FJKong> 2 research support input emoji symble
15:38 <FJKong> eof
15:38 <willcooke> thanks FJKong
15:38 <FJKong> extract..
15:39 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:40 <willcooke> probably out....
15:41 <willcooke> happyaron, please let me have your update via email when you're online
15:41 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:41 <hikiko> there's an issue with the size of the shadow and I am trying to figure out how to get the correct size accounting for borders or decorations, otherwise it works it's just smaller than it should be... apart from that did some support here and there, look at the chrome vsync bug etc
15:42 <hikiko> eof
15:42 <willcooke> thanks hikiko, do you think we're good to start asking people to test qengho's suggested string?  Just some general feedback about whether or not it makes a difference for people?
15:44 <hikiko> yes willcooke
15:44 <willcooke> cool, I'll do that this afternoon
15:44 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:44 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:45 <Laney> hello
15:45 <Laney> • Uploaded gstreamer 1.7 to X, required getting an upstream fix
15:45 <Laney> ∘ still a 1.6 point release to upload to 15.10
15:45 <Laney> • finished seeding gnome-calendar
15:45 <Laney> • ported some more stuff (ubiquity, webapps-applications, other things),  to webkit2, should be able to get webkit1 out of main
15:45 <Laney> • fixed virt-manager breakage in X
15:45 <Laney> • started poking at tracker autopkgtests on s390x
15:45 <Laney> • looked at some of my merges
15:45 <Laney> • went to the CC meeting to represent the team
15:45 <Laney> ♟
15:45 <larsu> is that pile of poo or is my text too small?
15:45 <willcooke> awesome, thanks Laney
15:45 * larsu zooms
15:45 <willcooke> ha
15:45 <willcooke> #topic larsu
15:46 <Laney> it's a pawn
15:46 <Laney> like me
15:46 <larsu> have been working on nautilus (after some half sick days last week)
15:46 * Laney advances one square towards larsu
15:46 <larsu> desrt disliked my gtk patch though (for good reason), so I've been looking for a way out that is not too hacky
15:47 <larsu> haven't found one yet :/
15:47 <desrt> i have a proposal =)
15:47 <larsu> the way nautilus code got refactored really doesn't work well with how menus are exported on the bus
15:47 <seb128> Laney, speaking of gstreamer, you probably know but tracker s390 autopkg is grumpy and blocking it, that seems buggy though (it blocks gnome-icon-theme the same way) and might be worth doing a skip or something
15:48 <larsu> desrt: stop doing it?
15:48 <Laney> I know
15:48 <larsu> 3.14 is really old...
15:48 <desrt> larsu: do it how we originally discussed in london, or ya... stop doing it entirely
15:48 <Laney> 12/01 15:45:01 <Laney> • started poking at tracker autopkgtests on s390x
15:48 <seb128> great
15:48 <desrt> but fwiw, i don't think the changes i proposed would end up introducing a huge changeset in nautilus
15:48 <larsu> desrt: in nautiulus?
15:48 <desrt> but the changes to gtk would indeed be fairly substantial
15:48 <larsu> desrt: there I can only re-export actions
15:49 <larsu> in the same namespace
15:49 <desrt> larsu: let's discuss this one more time after the meeting
15:49 <larsu> anyway, let's not discuss this in the meteting
15:49 <larsu> </larsu>
15:49 <willcooke> :)
15:49 <willcooke> thanks chaps
15:49 <desrt> larsu: but i think if we can't figure out how to do it along these lines, you need to put it down
15:49 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:52 <willcooke> laggy laggy?
15:52 <willcooke> he was here a little while ago
15:52 <seb128> I've seen that before
15:52 <desrt> ya.  he was having trouble last meeting as well
15:52 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:52 <qengho2> - done: chromium up to date. in Proposed. - done: Cr+fcitx apparmor updates for #security. - to-do: snappy packaging for chromium - need: sponsorship for xenial xdg-utils. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-utils/+bug/1518053
15:52 <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1518053 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "xdg-mime can read .config/ defaults but can never set them" [Medium,Confirmed]
15:52 <willcooke> doh
15:53 <seb128> lol, that as well
15:53 <willcooke> qengho2, carry on if needed...
15:53 <seb128> (/me waits for qengho to be done)
15:54 <qengho2> I'm giving up smuxi. It is broken on large networks like freenode.
15:54 <qengho2> EOF
15:54 <willcooke> thanks qengho2
15:54 <willcooke> seb128, all yours
15:54 <seb128> * spent most of the week trying to get on top of xenial work (launchpad bugs, e.u.c, versions, ...)
15:54 <seb128> * some Debian merges
15:54 <seb128> * some small updates
15:54 <seb128> </week>
15:54 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:55 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:55 <Sweet5hark> - returned from vacation, burning through ~3000 mail backlog
15:55 <Sweet5hark> - bumped LibreOffice to 5.1.0~rc1 for ppa including l10n in the ppa
15:55 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:55 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
15:55 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:55 <willcooke> * Uploaded merge of Brltty from debian, accidentally breaking the systemd service file, which was promptly fixed, thanks rtg.
15:55 <willcooke> * Further work on liba11y-profile-manager. Coding is well under way, and I've almost finalized the API, and it will e documented as its developed, allowing for changes as I progress where required, or where I've overlooked something.
15:56 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
15:56 <willcooke> Looks like Till is offline, I will come back if he appears...
15:56 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:56 <Trevinho> Nothing to report, a part from the fact I'm back
15:56 <willcooke> :D
15:56 <willcooke> Trevinho, what do you think for a sprint review?  Friday better than tomorrow?  I think yes
15:57 <Trevinho> willcooke: I agree
15:57 <willcooke> cool, that's done then
15:57 <willcooke> will send out invites
15:57 <willcooke> andyrock, let me know how you are fixed for a meeting on Friday
15:57 <willcooke> #topic willcooke
15:57 <willcooke> Oh, no update from Robert, but I spoke to him yesterday
15:58 <seb128> it starts feeling late for the software-center replacement ...
15:58 <willcooke> he's been working on GNOME software and has branches which can get reviews and comments from LP
15:58 <willcooke> seb128, Let's see what we find out in the meeting tomorrow.  I think we still need to push hard for it
15:59 <qengho> I'm oddly happy that "perl" was not installed on my main machine until just now as a dep for "irssi".
15:59 <willcooke> it = G-Software
15:59 <seb128> yeah
15:59 <seb128> I'm also starting worring a bit about nautilus
15:59 <seb128> I'm unsure the new version is good enough for the LTS/not going to been as a regression
16:00 <willcooke> yes, thats sounding like it's not going as smoothly as expected.
16:00 <willcooke> let's discuss after the meeting
16:00 <willcooke> Reminder to all desktoppers:  please fill out the conferences spreadsheet
16:00 <larsu> seb128: what does the new version give us, other than being new?
16:00 <larsu> ah wait. after the meeting.
16:00 <willcooke> thx
16:01 <willcooke> oki, no Till so let's wrap and continue the Nautilus conversation
16:01 <willcooke> #endmeeting