15:30 <seb128> #startmeeting
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  8 15:30:48 2015 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <didrocks> hey
15:31 <hikiko> hello
15:31 <seb128> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <Sweet5hark> aye
15:31 <seb128> seems like willcooke is not back yet, so I'm going to start this one
15:31 <FJKong> .... ..
15:31 <didrocks> thanks seb128 :)
15:31 <desrt> word up
15:32 <larsu> hey
15:32 <seb128> ok, let's get started
15:32 <seb128> no andyrock so he might be out
15:32 <seb128> #topic attente
15:32 <seb128> hey attente
15:32 <attente> hey seb128
15:32 <attente> gtk-mir backend.
15:32 <attente> (eof)
15:33 <Laney> bah no beep that time
15:33 <seb128> thanks attente
15:33 <seb128> #topic desrt
15:33 <seb128> desrt, hey
15:33 <desrt> gsettings.
15:33 <desrt> (eof)
15:33 <desrt> :)
15:34 * larsu is looking forward to didrocks this week
15:34 <desrt> but seriously... did some good work on the dconf confinement stuff last week in montreal with xclaesse
15:34 <desrt> biggest change here is what i am working on now: DConfChangeset is being imported into glib as GSettingsBackendChangeset
15:35 <desrt> which is something that i've vaguely wanted to do for a couple of years now... it's ugly as all hell, but it's going to make a lot of things easier... not least of which is the current work at hand about confinement
15:35 <desrt> the import itself is done (as a patch) but i'm currently porting various backends to using it
15:35 <desrt> so i'll probably have that done by next meeting
15:35 <desrt> (real eof)
15:35 <seb128> great
15:35 <seb128> looking forward to see that land ;-)
15:36 <seb128> thanks desrt
15:36 <desrt> me too
15:36 <desrt> np
15:36 <seb128> #topic dgadomski
15:36 <seb128> dgadomski, hey
15:36 <dgadomski> hey
15:36 <dgadomski> I'm chasing one new issue - Unity (and Gnome 3) crash on a VM running under PowerKVM. No useful info in the logs, waiting for /var/crash data. Direct rendering is on (according to glxinfo), so I guess it's some kind of a bug. I'll create a lp bug after getting more input. I guess there's nothing preventing Unity from running on ppc64?
15:37 <dgadomski> * created https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPolicykit, will work on putting more info there. Will appreciate any feedback, ideas
15:37 <dgadomski> * still running Xenial in several VMs tests to verify fix for bug #1337873, no problems so far
15:37 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu Vivid) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873
15:37 <dgadomski> EOF
15:37 <seb128> not sure about ppc64 graphical stack...
15:37 <seb128> thanks dgadomski
15:37 <dgadomski> seb128: do you know who can know more about ppc64?
15:38 <seb128> try asking on #ubuntu-devel maybe
15:38 <dgadomski> seb128: will do, thanks
15:38 <seb128> but I doubt we have many people who know about unity/graphical stack on ppc64el
15:38 <seb128> it's not a focus I would guess
15:38 <seb128> yw
15:38 <seb128> ok, next
15:38 <seb128> #topic didrocks
15:38 <seb128> didrocks, hey
15:38 <didrocks> manage living with a german guy here.
15:38 <didrocks> (eof)
15:38 <didrocks> :p
15:39 <didrocks> * Most of the week went into the plymouth merge (we never merged with debian and the package wasn't common). Fixed and dropped some patches. Tested with passphrase with plymouth in initramfs. After some firefighting, will do flavors theme updates (all themes needs to be refresh for a /lib vs /usr/share transition)
15:39 <didrocks> * Dist-upgraded to xenial, found some issues after dist-upgrade and either pinged maintainers or upload fix/revert + discussion on bug report.
15:39 <didrocks> * Went to change passport for Ubucon
15:39 <didrocks> * Doing some personal development stuff
15:39 <didrocks> * Wrote summary & speaker note for scale conf
15:39 <didrocks> * Pushed language default strategy change + another dictionary. Got a golden image with only russian (not even en!) on the image and fixed it :)
15:39 <didrocks> .
15:39 <Laney> do you feel developed personally?
15:39 <didrocks> I guess as you are Laney ;)
15:40 <Laney> I experienced a film style montage
15:40 <didrocks> haha
15:40 <seb128> thanks didrocks ;-)
15:41 <seb128> #topic FJKong
15:41 <seb128> FJKong, hey
15:41 <FJKong> youdao dictionary code review
15:41 <FJKong> work on build cef in progress
15:41 <FJKong> a little lag by my vps
15:41 <FJKong> eof
15:41 <seb128> you don't seem to lag much
15:41 <seb128> thanks FJKong ;-)
15:42 <seb128> #topic happyaron
15:42 <seb128> happyaron, hey!
15:43 <seb128> no happyaron I guess?
15:43 <seb128> #topic hikiko
15:43 <seb128> hikiko, key!
15:43 <hikiko> hello :)
15:44 <hikiko> I am still doing the shadows, I am close to finish the effect.. eof
15:44 <seb128> thanks hikiko
15:44 <desrt> :D
15:45 <seb128> #topic Laney
15:45 <seb128> hey Laney!
15:45 <Laney> oh hi
15:45 <Laney> • More work on appstream charm, supports in place upgrading now, filed RT to deploy to prodstack
15:46 <Laney> • patch pilot
15:46 <Laney> • New upstream of g-i, for some reason we have a delta now
15:46 <Laney> • Some work on rebuilds / test smoothing for poppler, openscenegraph, gdal which got largely invalidated by s390x enablement
15:46 <Laney> • some administration of autopkgtest
15:46 <Laney> • backport gstreamer to the overlay ppa for touch guys
15:46 <Laney> • start looking at trashing bug maybe caused by my patch from vivid, didn't manage to reproduce the behaviour people said they were seeing yet, asked on the bug for info
15:46 <Laney> • fix nautilus rename popover placement
15:46 <Laney> • libindicator build fix
15:46 <Laney> ︘
15:46 <desrt> Laney: which trashing bug is this?
15:46 * desrt is so sick of all the trash lately :p
15:46 <Laney> 748248
15:46 <desrt> thx
15:46 <Laney> apparently my patch created a regression
15:47 <Laney> but I can't work out what that is :)
15:47 <desrt> oh.  this one.
15:47 <Laney> POST MEETING!
15:47 <desrt> yup.
15:47 <seb128> thanks Laney
15:47 <seb128> #topic larsu
15:47 <seb128> larsu, hey
15:47 <larsu> hey!
15:47 <larsu> bugs
15:47 <larsu> (eof)
15:48 <desrt> lol
15:48 <seb128> no nautilus menubars? :-(
15:48 <desrt> i like this new style
15:48 <desrt> good job, attente :)
15:48 <larsu> (was anyone under 13 bytes?)
15:48 <larsu> haha
15:48 <desrt> "hey!\nbugs\n" vs. "gsettings.\n"
15:48 <attente> i started a trend
15:48 <larsu> ok: reworked the screenshot patch for gtk because Company
15:48 <seb128> do you have the updated one somewhere?
15:48 <seb128> I looked at the bugzilla earlier when I reverted the SRU
15:49 <seb128> but it seems there is no followup yet?
15:49 <larsu> found a riduculous workaround for nautilus having all actions in view. instead of win.
15:49 <larsu> (requires a gtk patch because desrt)
15:49 <desrt> larsu: did you take a look at that thing we discussed at the sprint at all?
15:49 <larsu> seb128: not uploaded, but almost done (one regression left to figure out)
15:49 <larsu> desrt: that thing wouldn't fix this
15:50 <desrt> i dunno.  i see them as related :)
15:50 <larsu> that was about dynamic menus
15:50 <desrt> export-all-the-menus and export-all-the-actiongroups *shrug*
15:50 <larsu> this is aboutthe actions not being reachable
15:50 <larsu> desrt: we never wanted to export all action groups?!
15:50 <larsu> anyway
15:50 <larsu> also some smaller fixes. notify-osd. some more logs work
15:50 <larsu> some reviews
15:51 <larsu> (actual eof)
15:51 <Laney> great reviews
15:51 <Laney> would request again a++
15:51 <seb128> Laney, larsu, btw gnome-logs MIR got approved, so we can swap gnome-system-log for it when we want
15:52 <Laney> cool
15:52 <larsu> awesome, thanks
15:52 <seb128> thanks larsu
15:52 <Laney> should file calendar one
15:52 * Laney notes that down
15:52 <seb128> do you still plan to reply on the list?
15:52 <Laney> that's the same task ya
15:52 <seb128> I tried the tb-eds integration earlier
15:52 <seb128> it hangs tb for me as well
15:52 <Laney> :(
15:52 <seb128> also I find the calendar UI (it works without eds) too complex
15:53 <seb128> gnome-calendar+1
15:53 <Laney> cool
15:53 <seb128> ok, next
15:53 <Laney> thnaks
15:53 <seb128> #topic qengho
15:53 <seb128> qengho, hey
15:54 <qengho> Hey!
15:54 <qengho> * New Chromium, v47. distpatches--. Tested & gave to #security for upload.
15:54 <qengho> * In progress: Precise C++ abi backporting.
15:54 <qengho> * To-do this week: More snap work. More Cr/Ozone/Mir work. xdg-patch patch again.
15:54 <qengho> * Maybe: My desktop machine needs an overhaul, so in the process I'll try to get some ZFS integration into Ubiquity.
15:54 <qengho> * Gripe: Nautilus crashy.
15:54 <qengho> EOF
15:55 <seb128> qengho, nautilus on what serie? feel free to open a bug with bt and I can have a look
15:55 <qengho> Not xdg-patch. xdg-utils
15:55 <qengho> seb128: xenial. I will.
15:55 <seb128> thanks qengho
15:56 <seb128> #topic seb128
15:56 <seb128> • uploaded nautilus 3.18!
15:56 <seb128> • fixed some small issues in the gtkappchooser dialog (missing icon, label wrap mode)
15:56 <seb128> • some Debian merges
15:56 <seb128> • looked at some translations issues (desktop & phone)
15:56 <seb128> • spent quite some time trying to debug evolution-data-server/uoa/oauth issues, fixed one problem due to an unseeded package but the auth is using password instead of oauth and that's wrong, didn't figure that one yet though
15:56 <seb128> • some sponsoring
15:56 <seb128> • review of incoming bugs/errors, upstream several new segfault showing on e.u.c after xenial GNOME (gedit, nautilus, n-m, ...) updates
15:56 <seb128> </week>
15:56 <larsu> random note: I'm testing my patch on 2× and firefox is still 1×. Clicking links with the large pointer is *hard*.
15:56 <larsu> but looks funny
15:57 <Laney> firefox gets 2× for me
15:57 <Laney> seb128: what's the bug # for the need-to-restart-eds one?
15:57 <larsu> for me too if I restarted
15:57 <larsu> *restart it
15:58 <seb128> Laney, I didn't file it yet, thanks for the reminder, wanted to check with mardy first
15:58 * seb128 does try to ping him
15:58 <seb128> I let you know when it's registered
15:58 <seb128> ok, next
15:58 <Laney> thanks
15:58 <Laney> just want to subscribe
15:58 <seb128> yw!
15:58 <seb128> #topic Sweet5hark
15:58 <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice/GNOME Content Apps Hackfest Madrid
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- much of mentoring and review
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- wow spanish community has lots of potential
15:58 <Sweet5hark> -- such patches being merged
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - trying to behave: TDF board election ongoing
15:58 <Sweet5hark> - playing with snappy/snapcraft for LibreOffice
15:58 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:58 <seb128> efficient ;-)
15:58 <willcooke> back, sorry all
15:59 <seb128> hey willcooke, no worry
15:59 * willcooke reads log
15:59 <seb128> willcooke, want to take it from there or should I do the few remaining updates?
15:59 <willcooke> seb128, would you mind finishing, then I can read the log
15:59 <seb128> #topic tkamppeter
15:59 <seb128> willcooke, no problem
15:59 <seb128> tkamppeter, hey
16:00 <tkamppeter> - cups-browsed: Completed development of filtering printer lists. Now if there are very many printers in the network, making only the important ones available is now possible by mean of server's IP addresses, queue name, and practically all printer properties broadcasted via DNS-SD.
16:00 <tkamppeter> - Will not be on next Desktop Sprint, date equals the date of next OpenPrinting Summit.
16:00 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
16:00 <qengho> 'sup
16:00 <seb128> thanks tkamppeter
16:00 <tkamppeter> `sup?
16:01 <seb128> #topic TheMuso
16:01 <seb128> * Submitted orca gsettings backend initial patch upstream, bug# still a little work to do, no feedback given yet.
16:01 <seb128> * Started looking into merging/uploading new alsa package versions, will do in the new year if no movement on Debian's side before then.
16:01 <seb128> * More work on the a11y profile manager library, started populating the source tree, nothing pushed yet.
16:01 <seb128> Hope you all have a pleasant break.
16:01 <seb128> #topic robert_ancell
16:01 <seb128> - GNOME Software Ubuntu support work
16:01 <seb128> - LightDM SRU verification
16:01 <seb128> #topic Trevinho
16:01 <seb128> · Prepared unity/compiz SRU for HiDPI cursor support
16:01 <seb128> · Meeting with Kylin guys https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu
16:01 <seb128> Kylin/Meeting/2015/20151203
16:01 <seb128> · New review with kylin lockscreen, proposed a branch to cleanup the
16:01 <seb128> code so that we can share the most of the logic.
16:01 <seb128> · Continued working in launcher/trash/volumes/filemanager integration.
16:01 <seb128> Focusing in main nautilus management
16:01 <seb128> 
16:01 <seb128> 
16:02 <seb128> bah, those chars display as [TAB] in my IRC client
16:02 <seb128> they do display as Ubuntu logo in gedit though ;-)
16:02 <Laney> works here
16:02 <seb128> great ;-)
16:03 <seb128> #topic other topics?
16:03 <seb128> ok, anything else to discuss?
16:04 <Laney> probably come up to ldn on thursday if you want me to
16:04 <seb128> that would be good
16:04 <Laney> might not get the 0630 train this time though :p
16:05 <seb128> no need to arrive too early
16:05 * desrt reads "gsettings backend", get nervous
16:05 * desrt has visions of compiz
16:05 <seb128> haha
16:05 * desrt tries to find that bug
16:06 <seb128> ok, let's wrap the meeting there
16:06 <seb128> willcooke, or did you have an update/something you wanted to discuss?
16:06 <Sweet5hark> *** desert will need to write the gsettings replacement for the gconf backend in LO
16:06 <willcooke> nothing at the moment
16:06 <desrt> lol.  not touching that.
16:06 <desrt> my laptop is made of aluminium, which has too low of a melting point for LO work
16:06 <Sweet5hark> desrt: hrhr
16:07 <larsu> haha
16:07 <Laney> #endmeeting
16:07 <Laney> !!!
16:07 <desrt> best part about old jokes: they're already old
16:08 <seb128> seems not I guess
16:08 <seb128> #endmeeting