15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-12-01
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec  1 15:30:24 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <willcooke> December???
15:30 <willcooke> I know I say this a lot, but where does the time go????
15:30 * willcooke must be old
15:30 <seb128> yeah, almost holidays!
15:31 <willcooke> zo/
15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho (might be out), seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 <qengho> 'sup.
15:31 <desrt> o hai!
15:31 <willcooke> qengho, fixed?
15:31 <hikiko> hello:)
15:31 * larsu sings the meeting song
15:31 <qengho> willcooke: yep!
15:31 <andyrock> hey
15:31 * desrt forgot her good-mornings
15:31 <willcooke> qengho, \o/
15:31 <dgadomski> o/
15:31 <larsu> desrt: never too late
15:31 <Sweet5hark> \o/
15:31 <FJKong> .... ..
15:31 <larsu> (morning)
15:31 <willcooke> hey desrt - how is the trip?
15:31 <desrt> great!
15:31 <willcooke> yay
15:31 <desrt> i'm freezing to death, but otherwise it's good
15:32 <didrocks> hey
15:33 <desrt> also: good morning :)
15:33 <qengho> 23°C in Florida today. The only time the weather is nice is December.
15:33 <willcooke> bah
15:33 <willcooke> no fair
15:33 <desrt> this is why 'snowbirds' are a thing
15:34 <willcooke> right, let's get started
15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:34 <andyrock> hey
15:34 <andyrock> i'm still working on the drawing/presenting issues with compiz
15:35 <andyrock> right now I'm trying to avoid that compiz presents a nux texture if there is no need to do so
15:35 <andyrock> basically nux is not drawing the texture every frame
15:35 <andyrock> but compiz is presenting every time even if there is no need
15:35 <andyrock> I'm fighting against nux to try to come out with something
15:36 <andyrock> but it's a bit messy :)
15:36 <willcooke> :D
15:36 <andyrock> I also pushed a branch to fix the redrawing issue with the overlay
15:36 <andyrock> but things are not easy considering the messy interactions between compiz and nux
15:37 <andyrock> but at least I started to understand how things work
15:37 <andyrock> eof
15:37 <willcooke> thanks andyrock  - should be a nice speed up if you can get it to work
15:37 <willcooke> good luck!
15:37 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:37 <andyrock> yeah presenting is faster than drawing
15:37 <andyrock> but it takes time
15:37 <andyrock> and if we don't need to do that it's better to fix it
15:38 <attente> minor packaging changes to maliit-inputcontext-gtk
15:38 <attente> proposed moving QT_IM_MODULE and GTK_IM_MODULE out of /etc/environment on the touch image to u8 upstart job
15:38 <attente> fix weird FTBFS for u-c-c, probably broken because building without optimization
15:38 <attente> still working on hack for single-surface gtk-mir apps, but less certain now if this is the right approach to take...
15:38 <attente> (eof)
15:38 <willcooke> thanks attente, great work on Maliit
15:39 <willcooke> #topic desrt
15:39 <desrt> hihi
15:39 <desrt> spent a bit of time last week fixing up more inline-manging fallout (which was somewhat expected) on windows, etc.
15:39 <desrt> also fixed yet another file monitoring bug (again, windows)
15:39 <desrt> spending this week doing a lot of dconf work supporting the containerisation efforts that are ongoing here at chez collabora
15:40 <desrt> added API support for listing locks and added a new dconf(1) command 'dconf list-locks' (which could be helpful for admins)
15:40 <desrt> also added API support for querying default values and added 'dconf read -d ...' to allow that from the commandline too
15:40 <desrt> also did some improved support for path resets in the dconfchangeset API, which is actually an old patch that i did ages ago but never applied
15:41 <desrt> today i'm looking at improving annotations for floating references in gtk-doc (which is semantically meaningless for gobject-introspection because it never uses floating refs)... expect soon to see (transfer consume) and (transfer take)
15:41 <desrt> will also write g_object_take_ref() to go along with that
15:41 <desrt> finally, i reached level 13 in ingress while sitting in the mount royal metro station, in time to get my gold vanguard badge
15:41 <desrt> fin.
15:41 <willcooke> lol
15:42 <willcooke> thanks desrt
15:42 <willcooke> enjoy the week
15:42 <desrt> thanks :D
15:42 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:42 <dgadomski> hey, the desktop is still near perfect as not many issues are reported to me recently, nonetheless:
15:43 <dgadomski> * bug #1510824 - prepared a modified pam build (ppa:dgadomski/lp1510824) that allows to reproduce the bug, verified the fix for Vivid and Wily
15:43 <ubot5> bug 1510824 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu Wily) "PolkitAgentSession incorrectly handles multiline output (as observed with pam_vas)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510824
15:43 <dgadomski> * investigating a problem with logging into Unity on ppc64le, prepared a ppc64 build of sosreport with lightdm plugin enabled (ppa:dgadomski/sosreport) to collect more logs. This arch will be included in the future sosreport versions available in ppa:canonical-support/support-tools (thanks to caribou).
15:43 <dgadomski> EOF
15:43 <willcooke> awesome, thanks dgadomski
15:43 <dgadomski> thanks
15:43 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
15:43 <didrocks> hey
15:43 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
15:43 <didrocks> - Released 15.11.2 (third release this month) with CLion twine and game editor support. Blogged/g+ about it.
15:43 <didrocks> - Add a deprecation warning on udtc command.
15:43 <didrocks> - Bugs triaging and feedback from the community.
15:43 <didrocks> Misc:
15:43 <didrocks> - worked on default language selection. Prepared a branch refactoring and rationalizing language support. Try to detail a policy on a bug report and posted on ubuntu-devel. Waiting for any feedbacks/pushbacks. If this is acked, some more ubiquity work and testing will be needed once the seed changed.
15:43 <didrocks> - wrote a small utility to easily estimate additional size taken by a seed file containing variables (https://github.com/didrocks/ubuntu-seed-size)
15:43 <didrocks> - work on some hangout plugin prototype for UOS (more on that later). Need to showcast that to the community team now.
15:43 <didrocks> - some unity dash-related work.
15:43 <didrocks> - reviewed duplicity/déjà-dup and reluctantly acked it.
15:43 <didrocks> - patch pilot and archive admin duties.
15:43 <didrocks> .
15:44 <willcooke> thanks didrocks, and thanks for your help in the dash related work
15:44 <didrocks> yw! :)
15:44 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:44 <FJKong> hi
15:44 <FJKong> sougou IM:
15:44 <FJKong> * page up/down postion problem
15:44 <FJKong> * hot key binding for prev/next page function
15:44 <FJKong> other:
15:44 <FJKong> * pre-reasearch about wechat client
15:44 <FJKong> eof
15:45 <willcooke> thanks FJKong
15:45 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:46 <willcooke> 1. ibus merge, will prepare SRU shortly
15:46 <willcooke> 2. sogoupinyin bug triaging and analysis
15:46 <willcooke> 3. zfs-linux preparing and testing (mirror/raidz configurations,
15:46 <willcooke> running mysql w^/o snapshot/sharing options) on Ubuntu, fixing
15:46 <willcooke> possible issues, will upload in a day or two
15:46 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:46 <hikiko> hello, still shadows, I found a much more efficient way to calculate them and I am changing the code, I hope to finish them by tomorrow... :) eof
15:47 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:47 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:48 <Laney> • Work on charm for appstream-dep11 - http://162.213.34.169/ is now deployed via juju, next to get a prodstack staging environment, some more work to be done before it can go into production (download debs on demand instead of needing a full mirror)
15:48 <Laney> • A few glib uploads to fix regressions, trying to smooth it in now (autopkgtest problems as usual)
15:48 <Laney> • New font release, wrangle fontconfig, sorry for the weirdly displaying numbers (bug #1521262), hopefully design will get that fixed
15:48 <ubot5> bug 1521262 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu) "Clock size in panel is smaller when showing only the time than when also showing date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1521262
15:48 <Laney> • admin> Work on some personal development thing
15:48 <Laney> ⌨
15:48 <larsu> ♥
15:48 <willcooke> thanks Laney
15:48 * Laney spots a pitti
15:49 <desrt> omg.  emoji in irc?  what is this madness?
15:49 <willcooke> #topic larsu
15:49 <larsu> more busywork this week!
15:50 <larsu> 2nd takes of some patches (the black flicker one and talked to benjamin about the screenshot one being wrong)
15:50 <larsu> some code reviews
15:50 <larsu> some random bugs that were thrown at me
15:50 <larsu> I think that's it :/
15:50 <larsu> </larsu>
15:50 <seb128> larsu, how is the nautilus menubar work going?
15:51 <seb128> I'm done with the update I thinl
15:51 <seb128> pondering waiting on that or not
15:51 <larsu> seb128: I've got a plan now. desrt won't like it
15:51 * larsu is exporting another action group on the window, manually
15:52 <larsu> seb128: should be done in the next day
15:52 <seb128> I think I'm going to upload without just to get some feedback on how the pure upstream (headerbar and no menubar) feels like
15:52 <larsu> sure
15:52 <seb128> so take your time on that
15:52 <seb128> larsu, thanks
15:52 <larsu> :)
15:53 <willcooke> thanks larsu
15:53 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:53 <qengho> * snappy security configuration with SUID binaries
15:53 <qengho> * more chromium ozone/mir
15:53 <qengho> * chromium release delayed to fix window matching upstream change. Out real soon. NOT KIDDING FOR REAL THIS TIME.
15:53 <qengho> * Precise updates again? Maybe update compiler to postPrecise C++11?
15:53 <qengho> EOF
15:54 <willcooke> qengho, let's chat Precise and Chrome dropping 32bit in our 1:1 this week
15:54 <willcooke> thanks qengho, glad the laptop is alive again
15:54 <willcooke> hrm... lagging I think
15:54 <qengho> Yeah. Upstream droppedIA32
15:55 <qengho> ARM is fine, I think.
15:55 <willcooke> I wonder if we as Ubuntu should make a statement about it
15:55 <willcooke> anyways, we can chat later once I've got the facts straight in my head
15:55 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:55 <qengho> And it's only their builds. Expect some bit-rot, but should work for us for a while.
15:56 <seb128> hey
15:56 <seb128> • worked on some gedit theming issues
15:56 <seb128> • reported some xenial-to-fix-bugs (gtk+ fileselector clicks handling, evolution calendar doubled notifcations, ...)
15:56 <seb128> • indicator-keyboard built with current libgee (+ missing schemas depends)
15:56 <seb128> • fixed evolution calendar reminder notifications to not use actions when the server doesn't support those
15:56 <seb128> • reported notify-osd issue, tested/landed fix from Lars (thanks!), did another land to fix a test issue
15:56 <seb128> • updated compiz & unity apport hooks, fixed a small bug in the apport gsettings hook on the way
15:56 <seb128> • fixed d-feet translation issues
15:56 <seb128> • keep working on the nautilus 3.18, update ready with headerbar and no menubar but it might be good to upload like that to get some feedback on how the upstream UI feels like?
15:56 <seb128> • did some triaging on phone bugs
15:56 <seb128> • daily review of incomings launchpad bugs&error with some triaging/small debugging
15:56 <seb128> • worked a bit of some of the ongoing xenial-proposed transitions
15:56 <seb128> </week>
15:56 <willcooke> amazing
15:56 <seb128> next: get geonames in xenial, review calendars solutions, MIR for gnome-logs
15:56 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:56 <seb128> yw
15:57 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - candidacy for reelection to the TDF board
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice 5.1.0 alpha1 and beta1 uploaded to prereleases ppa for xenial
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - usual calls: ESC, some advisory board foo, some boring admin stuff
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - upstream refactoring in writer UNO core
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - upstream codereview and mentoring
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - read snappy/snapcraft docs
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - 2. oitg aftermath and followups
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - converted some of my old cronjons to systemd user service units/timer. pretty awesome those.
15:57 <Sweet5hark> - noticed the gmenumodel stuff I ported to gtk3 for 5.1 broke again, needs fixing
15:57 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:58 <willcooke> good luck with the board election
15:58 <willcooke> and hope you have fun at the conf
15:58 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
15:58 <willcooke> * Continued to optimize Orca gsettings backend code, intend to have it ready for merging upstream in a day or so.
15:58 <willcooke> * Much time spent keeping pace with orca upstrea to make sure all functionality and settings are supported.
15:58 <willcooke> * Continued design of liba11y-profile-manager API and implementation, likely won't start before I go on my break, but that will be my focus for January since Orca should have gsettings support by then.
15:58 <willcooke> * Spent a little time looking over Speech DIspatcher bugs... I've neglected this work a bit in the past months.
15:58 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
16:00 * desrt blinks
16:00 * larsu coughs
16:00 * desrt drops a pin for effect
16:00 * willcooke dodges the tumbleweed
16:00 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
16:00 <Laney> - printed some stuff
16:00 <larsu> lol
16:01 <Laney> - drank some coffee
16:02 <larsu> - driving
16:02 <tkamppeter> willcooke, hi, sorry, I will do my part at the end.
16:02 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
16:02 <willcooke> go now while we wait for Trevinho
16:02 * ogra_ sees didrocks on ubuntu devel and senses that this is the year of the linux desktop ! (in french)
16:03 <didrocks> \o/
16:03 <willcooke> meh
16:03 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
16:03 <willcooke> - GNOME Software Ubuntu support work
16:03 <willcooke> #topic willcooke
16:03 <seb128> we had a few smooth meetings and we are back at waiting on people to type or to be around :-/
16:04 <willcooke> Theme wrangling, GNOME software wrangling, U7 Dash wrangling,
16:04 <willcooke> #topic Any other business
16:04 <willcooke> Reminder that the U7 sprint 1 ends tomorrow
16:04 <willcooke> we'll have a hangout so bring your demos if you can
16:05 <willcooke> any more AOB>
16:05 <willcooke> ?
16:05 <desrt> yes
16:05 <willcooke> desrt perhaps ;)
16:05 <desrt> i wonder if we could get more into coworking
16:05 <desrt> being in an office again is really nice :)
16:06 <desrt> i could happily do this a couple times a week, for example
16:06 <willcooke> heh
16:06 * didrocks will cowork with pitti next Monday and Tuesday \o/
16:06 <willcooke> so you'd be looking for some sponsorship to help make this happen?
16:06 <willcooke> I mean, you can go work where you like, right
16:06 <desrt> might even be nice to get mini-offices set up in some places
16:06 <tkamppeter> willcooke, I am ready now.
16:07 <desrt> even if they are really just coworking memberships
16:07 <willcooke> desrt, got ya.  So a membership to a space near you for example
16:07 <desrt> nod
16:07 <willcooke> oki, I will ask.  I'm in the office in two weeks so I can ask the right people face to face
16:07 <desrt> just for the get-out-of-the-house factor
16:08 <willcooke> yah, I'm feeling it today
16:08 <willcooke> I think its a winter thing for me
16:08 <desrt> maybe
16:08 <larsu> didrocks: cool! In Augsburg?
16:08 <willcooke> oki leave it with me
16:08 <desrt> thx.
16:08 <willcooke> any more business before we loop back to tkamppeter?
16:08 <didrocks> larsu: no, in the best town of France (news from today even!)
16:08 <didrocks> nothing for me :)
16:08 <larsu> didrocks: Marseilles?
16:08 * seb128 just went to work in a coffee for the afternoon
16:08 <willcooke> going in 30 seconds....
16:09 <willcooke> *in* a coffee?
16:09 <willcooke> ;p
16:09 * larsu hopes it was cold coffee
16:09 <desrt> hot.
16:09 <Laney> earl grey
16:09 <Laney> tea
16:09 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
16:09 <tkamppeter> - cups-drivers. cups: Fixes in the packaging for use on the phone, to have everything needed when a level-2 printing stack is installed on the phone.
16:09 <tkamppeter> - Installed the newest devel version on the phone on which the print filters actually work.
16:09 <tkamppeter> - cups-browsed: Working on filtering options for environments with thousands of shared printers, to prevent overloading of print dialogs.
16:09 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
16:09 <desrt> -1 yoda
16:10 <willcooke> great stuff on the phone tkamppeter
16:10 <willcooke> let's see if Trevinho is back...
16:10 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
16:10 <seb128> willcooke, :-P
16:10 <seb128> "at a coffee place"
16:11 <seb128> anyway, +1 for working with others sometimes being good
16:11 * seb128 points that desrt has attente in the same city so it's easy for you ;-)
16:11 <willcooke> :)
16:11 <willcooke> alrighty, Trevinho you can update us later
16:11 <willcooke> #endmeeting