15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-09-29
15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 29 15:30:48 2015 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:30 <Trevinho> larsu: https://developer.gnome.org/shell/stable/shell-shell-action-modes.html
15:31 <Trevinho> larsu: which might have a sense, but we just ignore.... Let's meet now :)
15:31 <larsu> Trevinho: ah, thanks
15:31 <willcooke> Trevinho, larsu  - you guys need to finish this up now?  We can hold for a few mins if you need?
15:31 <larsu> willcooke: thanks but I think we're good
15:31 <willcooke> oki
15:31 <larsu> Trevinho: I'll have a look after the meeting as well
15:31 <willcooke> Roll call:
15:31 <larsu> this is ... strange
15:31 <willcooke> andyrock, attente, desrt (conf),  dgadomski, didrocks,
15:31 <willcooke> fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128,
15:31 <willcooke> sweet5hark, themuso (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
15:31 * Sweet5hark sneaks in.
15:31 <larsu> hullo
15:31 <andyrock> hello
15:32 <dgadomski> hey
15:32 <Trevinho> hey!
15:32 <seb128> hey
15:32 <didrocks> hey
15:32 <Trevinho> (no hands today? o/ !!!
15:32 <seb128> \o
15:32 <hikiko> hello
15:33 <willcooke> Hi all, so we'll get started in a second.  If someone isn't here when it's their go we can come back to them.
15:33 <hikiko> basically I was about to send an email...
15:33 <willcooke> Laney, you want to go first if you are out and about?
15:33 <Laney> no thanks, I'm writing it still :P
15:33 <willcooke> :)
15:33 <Laney> I'm just in the library, it's fine
15:33 <willcooke> hikiko, you want to go first?  Are you heading out?
15:33 <hikiko> sure :) thanks!
15:33 <willcooke> #topic hikiko
15:33 <hikiko> so this week:
15:33 <hikiko> 1. Closed several bugs
15:33 <hikiko> 2. Fixed the put plugin - awaiting review (the windows seemed to move to the wrong direction in some cases)
15:33 <hikiko> 3. Almost fixed the 3d windows (I wrote the shaders sent the clipping planes to the gpu but there are still some issues I have to fix before uploading the branch to lp)
15:33 <hikiko> 4. Reproduced/Investigated the toggle shading unity bug (#1313446) but no much progress there
15:34 <hikiko> Plans for next week:
15:34 <hikiko> 1. submit the 3d windows branch (I hope tomorrow)
15:34 <hikiko> 2. work on the ezoom (I haven't worked at it for a long time because I was looking at the bugs :/)
15:34 <hikiko> 3. work on bug #1313446(that's basically a unity bug but it's quite important because it affects all users)
15:34 <ubot5`> bug 1313446 in unity (Ubuntu) "window disappears on toggle shade" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1313446
15:34 <hikiko> eof
15:34 <willcooke> thanks hikiko
15:34 <hikiko> bye everyone!
15:34 <willcooke> #topic andyrock
15:34 <andyrock> hey
15:34 <andyrock> basically just one point
15:34 <andyrock> working on fixing the indicator-appmenu leak
15:35 <andyrock> leaks
15:35 <andyrock> and bugs scrubbing
15:35 <andyrock> damn leaks :(
15:35 <willcooke> :)
15:35 <andyrock> eof
15:35 <willcooke> Thanks andyrock - keep plugging away, it'll be a big improvement
15:36 <seb128> andyrock, not looking at the u-p-s/menu segfault? :-(
15:36 <andyrock> should I?
15:36 <andyrock> Trevinho is better for that
15:36 <andyrock> I can add it to my list
15:36 <Trevinho> well, since you're there... :P
15:37 <seb128> Trevinho, is already fighting keybinding and scrollbars didn't change
15:37 <seb128> but as you guys prefer ;-)
15:37 <andyrock> k added to the list
15:37 <andyrock> :D
15:37 <andyrock> maybe the cause is the same
15:38 <willcooke> good, thanks guys
15:38 <willcooke> #topic attente
15:38 <attente> hi
15:39 <attente> ported the rest of the gtk widgets to use the new popup menu placement api. currently debugging some margin/padding issues, and still need to implement the positioning in some of the backends, which shouldn't be too hard
15:39 <attente> spent some time trying to debug u-g-m, bisecting glib. must've been bisecting wrong though... thanks Laney for fixing the issue
15:39 <attente> uploaded new versions of the java non-latin shortcut u-s-d fixes to a ppa
15:39 <attente> (eof)
15:40 <willcooke> thanks attente
15:40 <Laney> it's a good week for attente when he gets to do a bisection
15:40 <willcooke> :)
15:40 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
15:41 <dgadomski> hey, unfortunately nothing new in the desktop department from my side. I currently focus on a fix for bug #1337873 which will keep us consistent with Debian.
15:41 <ubot5`> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873
15:41 <dgadomski> EOF, thanks
15:41 <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
15:41 <willcooke> #topic didrocks
15:42 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
15:42 <didrocks> - jetbrains start to serve windows binaries on linux url. Fixed it with the new linux binary url and changes the test assets.
15:42 <didrocks> - new dart website is client-side templating, rendering version pickup and release urls "interesting". Found a way, however, this complicates the medium testing side. Still working on a proper solution
15:42 <didrocks> - fix some bugs when multiple matches per page were available
15:42 <didrocks> - fought with some squid proxy errors on our testint site, adding debugs and such through the week. Found that python 3.4.3 trusty SRU is faulty. Pinged Barry about it (also got some report that it's an issue in production as well).
15:42 <didrocks> Developer story:
15:42 <didrocks> - worked on snapcraft/develop workflow diagram.
15:42 <didrocks> - introduced a device manager concepts and wrote specs on the capabilities  and duties
15:42 <didrocks> Misc:
15:42 <didrocks> - debug the unity accel key issues with Trevinho and larsu.
15:42 <didrocks> .
15:42 <larsu> Misc??? /me feels degraded
15:42 <willcooke> lol @ jetbrains
15:42 <didrocks> :p
15:43 <didrocks> willcooke: ?os=linux -> bring the exe!
15:43 <willcooke> thanks didrocks
15:43 <willcooke> #topic FJKong
15:44 <willcooke> we can come back
15:44 <willcooke> #topic happyaron
15:44 <happyaron> ok
15:44 <willcooke> Also out I expect
15:44 <willcooke> oh
15:44 <willcooke> hi!
15:44 <happyaron> 1. Fixed SSL security issues of my instances running on Canonistack
15:44 <happyaron> 2. Updated: a list of ubuntu kylin packages, some not uploaded yet due to freeze
15:44 <happyaron> 3. Handling libstdc++ transition for IME packages at Debian
15:45 <happyaron> 4. Going to be on a long national holiday, but will remain responding (with delay)
15:45 <happyaron> EOF
15:45 <willcooke> thanks happyaron, have a great Golden Week
15:45 <happyaron> thanks
15:45 <willcooke> #topic larsu
15:45 <willcooke> oops, sorry laney
15:45 <qengho> happyaron: happy mid-autumn!
15:45 <happyaron> qengho: ty!
15:46 * Laney relaxes
15:46 * happyaron is sitting next to mom.
15:46 <larsu> oh wow me already?
15:46 <larsu> - add traditional menubar to eog; update its titlebar patch; fix fullscreen toolbar
15:46 <larsu> - make a plan and prepare how we can make menubars with dynamic window-specific menus (e.g. recent files) easier for applications to support
15:46 <larsu> - help Trevinho and didrocks figure out the u-s-d/unity interaction when grabbing keys
15:46 <larsu> - look into how all the things that log things are logging things - added onto sprint agenda
15:46 <larsu> - some random bug work and discussion
15:46 <larsu> </larsu?
15:46 <Laney> 你好妈妈
15:46 <willcooke> hi happyaron's mum!
15:46 <willcooke> thanks larsu
15:47 <willcooke> #topic Laney
15:47 <happyaron> 0. wow Laney
15:47 <Laney> ♥
15:47 <Laney> • Final smoothing of tests to get glib in
15:47 <Laney> • Upload glib & glib-networking stable release to unstable, sync
15:47 <Laney> • Cherry-pick a patch to fix GSequence which broke loads of random stuff like unity-gtk-module, upload to sid & sync
15:47 <Laney> • Test + upload gstreamer 1.5.91 (1.6 RC)
15:47 <Laney> • Fix gnome-themes-standard to not pull the "full" icon theme onto the ISO
15:47 <Laney> • Fix to sessioninstaller to not die when called with packagekit's "Modify2"-style parameters, even though we don't support that API yet (gstreamer calls it like that unconditionally...).
15:47 <Laney> • Re-review and upload aptdaemon fix to get PK install working
15:47 <Laney> • Got pinged by Debian libphonenumber maintainer about our diverging package - synced our changes over there (including package naming scheme) - can hopefully sync this next cycle & once it is NEWed
15:47 <Laney> • Try to help debug some random issues (e.g. evolution-ews), fwd upstream where they make sense
15:47 <Laney> • eog:
15:47 <Laney> ∘ Help to review/test of the eog menu fix from larsu (thanks!), might be a second patch for toolbar stuff - will upload when that comes along
15:47 <Laney> ∘ hide toolbar in fullscreen
15:47 <Laney> • Review a lot of stuff in the wily-proposed queue now we are frozen
15:47 <Laney> • DMB meeting with me in the chair, do some admin
15:47 <Laney> • Getting ready to upload new default wallpapers in a minute
15:47 <Laney> ≸
15:48 <willcooke> nice
15:48 <willcooke> thanks Laney
15:48 <happyaron> willcooke: ty, :)
15:48 <willcooke> #topic qengho
15:48 <Laney> happyaron: was it right?
15:48 <qengho> * Getting new Chromium 45.0.2454.101 ready for release.
15:48 <qengho> ** fixes autopkgtest bogus test-depends failures.
15:48 <qengho> ** fixes old, newly-discovered xdg-settings bug in setting default browser. ...
15:48 <qengho> * Reported bug upstream as https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92170 . Attached fix.
15:48 <qengho> * Travel arranged.
15:48 <happyaron> Laney: almost and can be understand
15:49 <qengho> EOF
15:49 <ubot5`> Freedesktop bug 92170 in xdg-utils "xdg-settings assumes desktop files have exactly one Exec line" [Normal,New]
15:49 <Laney> good enough for me
15:49 <willcooke> thanks qengho
15:49 <willcooke> #topic seb128
15:49 <seb128> • helped investigating unity8-dash/trust store/settings issue and wrote a settings bugfix
15:49 <seb128> • e.u.c triaging and pinged people/provided debug info/worked on some bugfixes
15:49 <seb128> ∘ software-properties python3 exception in some error handling callback
15:49 <seb128> ∘ glib/unity/menu segfaults
15:49 <seb128> ∘ aptdaemon issue due new packagekit that quite some user got from wily-proposed
15:49 <seb128> ∘ reviewed/landed indicator-bluetooth segfault bugfix from robert_ancell
15:49 <seb128> ∘ rebuilt wxwidgets for gcc5, fixes amule not starting on abi mismatch error
15:49 <seb128> • looked at why empty files do not open with gedit in wily, turned out to be a glib issue
15:49 <seb128> • investigated wily langpack update issue (missing some translations), didn't figure out what was going on though, waiting for the next build to see if that was a one time issue
15:50 <seb128> • synced new libmtp bugfix version
15:50 <seb128> • some launchpad patches queue reviews/sponsoring (hunspell, u-c-c, pytz)
15:50 <seb128> • investigated double lockscreen issue, found it's due to lightdm libaudit changes
15:50 <seb128> • tested current unity8 desktop versions to check some of the improvements, looks better with every update ;-)
15:50 <seb128> </week>
15:50 <willcooke> thanks seb128
15:50 <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
15:50 * willcooke guess "conf"
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - LibreOffice conference and Aarhus Hackfest (topic: C++11 and LibreOffice)
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - following some resulting leads
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - had a look at errors.ubuntu.com, didnt find anything superurgent
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - 5.0.2 FFE (finalized changelog, building now)
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - inbox backlog from conference
15:50 <Sweet5hark> - travel stuff for LibreOffice conference and Desktop sprint, and preparing for Hamburg Hackfest
15:50 <Sweet5hark> EOF
15:50 <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
15:50 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
15:51 <tkamppeter> - cups-filters: Allow two configurable modes for cups-browsed's load balancing, one queueing up the jobs on the client (like a CUPS class does) and one queueing up the jobs on the servers.
15:51 <tkamppeter> - ghostscript: First look into 9.18, does not need libtrio any more (closed MIR).
15:51 <tkamppeter> - Phone for printing stack testing stuck in Brazilian customs, so this will start only after the Sprint where I will get another device.
15:51 <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
15:51 <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter
15:51 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
15:51 <Trevinho> · Fix FTB in compiz wily
15:51 <Trevinho> · Kylin meeting: they're working in the lockscreen
15:51 <Trevinho> · Apply user contribution patch for fixing icon rendering in Wily
15:51 <Trevinho> · Refactoring of unity's GnomeKeyGrabber, to fix randomly not-working keybindings
15:51 <Trevinho> 
15:52 <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
15:52 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
15:52 <willcooke> - Diagnosing / fixing release serious bugs
15:52 <willcooke> - Updated XMir in overlay PPA
15:52 <willcooke> - Investigate GNOME Software Centre suitability for Ubuntu
15:52 <willcooke> #topic Any Other Business
15:53 <willcooke> So #1.  *I* think that the "hi/bye" concept is working really nicely.  I hope you agree.  We can discuss more at the sprint
15:53 * larsu +1s
15:54 <willcooke> Actually, that's all I got atm.  There will be information coming from the sprint in Budapest soon which I will share as soon as I have collated it
15:54 <larsu> I'm feeling a bit sick (hope it's nothing serious), but I might take it slow and be online a bit later tomorrow
15:54 * larsu judges in the morning
15:54 <willcooke> diiiiiddddrooooccckkkksss
15:54 <willcooke> He gave it to me as well
15:55 <larsu> not cool
15:55 <willcooke> take it easy larsu
15:55 <larsu> thanks
15:55 <Laney> take it HARD
15:55 <Laney> go for a long run
15:55 <willcooke> I'm going to call it EOD pretty soon as well
15:55 * willcooke -> bed
15:55 <seb128> larsu, get better!
15:55 <larsu> Laney: I actually might :)
15:55 <Laney> sweat it out
15:55 <larsu> but not before finishing that patch
15:55 <larsu> seb128: thanks!
15:55 <willcooke> :)
15:55 <willcooke> any more for any more?
15:55 * Laney tries to remember how to jhbuild
15:56 <larsu> Laney: jhbuild build gtk+
15:56 * larsu feels very helpful
15:56 <Laney> more how to jhbuildrc
15:56 <seb128> willcooke, oh, not really meeting material but shotwell has no upstrema anymore it seems
15:56 <jcastro> am I too late?
15:56 <seb128> they are missing at least
15:56 <jcastro> meeting over?
15:56 <seb128> jcastro, not yet
15:56 * happyaron sees gdm breaks IME other than ibus, again and again
15:56 <larsu> Laney: shall I paste mine?
15:56 <willcooke> seb128, oh, that's not good.  Something for the sprint
15:56 <larsu> seb128: missing?
15:56 <seb128> willcooke, and shotwell has an facebook appkey which needs updating
15:56 <willcooke> jcastro, shoot
15:57 <willcooke> seb128, ohhhh.  That's going to be fun
15:57 <Laney> larsu: yeah if it overrides the directories
15:57 <jcastro> hey so if someone new shows up and wants to help, those two bugs for the steam controller I posted on -desktop are still open
15:57 <seb128> willcooke, I wonder if we should generate/replace it by a key for ubuntu
15:57 <larsu> Laney: it does
15:57 <jcastro> but got a bunch of new data on the one so it should be straightforward
15:57 <seb128> larsu, missing, like they facebook permissions need updating and nobody replied to mailing list or bugzilla since june
15:57 <larsu> Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12613503/
15:57 <seb128> they->their
15:57 <larsu> ah, got it
15:58 <Laney> did anyone try to get hold of jim directly?
15:58 <jcastro> mostly I just wanted the bugs to make the notes of the meeting so they can be reported on. :D
15:58 <Laney> or, does anyone have a line to him that they can use? :)
15:59 <willcooke> jcastro, looks like mdeslaur and pitti might be on the case there
16:00 <seb128> Laney, unsure what's the best way to contact him, I assumed he would be subscribed to their list and that if he's not that's probably for a good reason/he doesn't want to maintain shotwell anymore or something
16:00 <jcastro> yeah, I was just spreading the word just in case, I know release work is also ongoing
16:00 <pitti> willcooke: wut?
16:00 <willcooke> pitti, steam controllers
16:00 <pitti> ah
16:01 <Laney> seb128: maybe not, just sometimes personal contact works
16:01 <Laney> they might be willing to hand the keys over to the gnome foudnation or whatever if that is possible
16:01 <larsu> the elementary guys might know him?
16:01 <larsu> some of them live in ca as well
16:01 <seb128> right, I just felt like I was not the best placed to take over that/ask about it
16:01 <Laney> I wasn't pinning it on you
16:02 <seb128> k, just saying
16:02 <seb128> if somebody feels like private emailing him or pinging other people who might please do
16:02 <seb128> otherwise we should maybe look at generating a new key for the package
16:02 <Laney> might make sense for gnome to own this in any event
16:02 <Laney> if they are up for that
16:02 <seb128> yeah, they have gnome-photos, unsure they care about shotwell
16:03 <Laney> "might"
16:03 <seb128> right
16:03 <seb128> I've just tried to get that moving a few times upstream but nobody picked it up
16:03 <seb128> so if anybody has better person they can ping, please do ;-)
16:04 <seb128> willcooke, that was all on that topic I think
16:04 <willcooke> oki, added to the BP
16:04 <seb128> and yeah, steam controllers is a systemd thing, pitti seemed to be on it
16:04 <willcooke> thanks all, let's wrap
16:04 <willcooke> #endmeeting