15:30 <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2015-09-22 15:30 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 22 15:30:53 2015 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:30 <meetingology> 15:30 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:30 <didrocks> let's meet! 15:31 <willcooke> Roll call: andyrock (out), attente, desrt, dgadomski, didrocks, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko, laney, larsu, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark (probably out), themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevino, robert_ancell (out) 15:31 * Trevinho with "h" is here :) 15:31 <Laney> revino 15:31 <Laney> evino 15:31 <FJKong> hi 15:31 <Laney> vino 15:31 <Laney> ino 15:31 <Laney> no 15:31 <seb128> hey 15:31 <Laney> o 15:31 <Laney> 15:32 <dgadomski> hey 15:32 <Trevinho> Vino... (means wine in Italian :p) 15:32 <qengho> Three wines, plz 15:32 <Trevinho> that's it :D 15:32 <larsu> \o 15:32 * willcooke fixes his list 15:33 <willcooke> and has one of the wines 15:33 <Trevinho> :D 15:33 <willcooke> Right then... 15:33 <willcooke> #topic andyrock 15:33 <willcooke> * Bug scrubing 15:33 <willcooke> * Investigating on why the scopes on 15.04+ are not reliable 15:33 <willcooke> * Code reviews 15:33 <willcooke> * Helping understanding the cause of #1497002 Recent Wily i386 live 15:33 <willcooke> DVDs load with no launcher, top bar, desktop icons, etc. There is a 15:33 <willcooke> quick workaround 15:33 <willcooke> * Updating some old branche 15:33 <willcooke> #topic attente 15:34 <attente> popup menu placement continued, in the process of porting over several gtk widgets to it 15:34 <attente> spent a day up at xdc with desrt and robert_ancell 15:34 <attente> (eof) 15:34 <willcooke> thanks attente 15:34 <willcooke> #topic desrt 15:36 <willcooke> desrt we will come back to you 15:37 <willcooke> #topic dgadomski 15:37 <dgadomski> hey 15:37 <dgadomski> only 1 thing in the desktop area this week: I've been looking into the reason for problems with installing PPA version of octave on trusty with HWE updates - bug #1424059. Looks like the cause was incorrect resolving of versioned dependencies with 'Provides:'. A workaround for now is to prepare a osmesa-less build of octave (agreed with the ppa maintainer and tested). 15:37 <ubot5> bug 1424059 in mesa (Ubuntu Trusty) "libosmesa6 conflicts with libglapi-mesa-lts-*" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1424059 15:37 <dgadomski> EOF 15:37 <willcooke> thanks a lot dgadomski 15:37 <willcooke> #topic didrocks 15:37 <didrocks> o/ 15:38 <didrocks> !\ This reports include the last 2 weeks as was on a conference last week 15:38 <ubot5> didrocks: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) 15:38 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make: 15:38 <didrocks> - released 15.09.2 featuring Android SDK downlod only, exit code fixes (both of those, by external contributor) 15:38 <didrocks> - added additional pep8 and tests fixes. Loving pep8 on trusty btw (no easy way to get something passing on trusty pep8 and wily pep8 in term of identation) :p 15:38 <didrocks> - archived our daily jenkins test jobs to ensure we have an in-code backup 15:38 <didrocks> - bugs management and PR reviews 15:38 <didrocks> Developer experience: 15:38 <didrocks> - experiment and play on our developer experience writing a Go service on snappy 15:38 <didrocks> - write that experience on a (too long) documentation, one with and without snapcraft, on a VM and with a raspbery pi 2 15:38 <didrocks> - draft what our next step for developer experience on snappy should be and separation of tools concerns 15:38 <didrocks> - attended to various meetings on this 15:38 <didrocks> Misc: 15:38 <didrocks> - attended to Polymer first ever conference. Back with some plastic ideas on how our HTML5 developer story should be 15:38 <didrocks> - talked with dbarth about an eventual prototyping around our HTML5 developer story & polymer would be 15:38 <didrocks> - archive admin and patch piloting duties 15:38 <didrocks> EOF 15:38 <willcooke> thanks didrocks 15:38 <willcooke> #topic FJKong 15:39 <FJKong> pinyin search: 15:39 <FJKong> improve speed of indexing file to db 15:39 <FJKong> research on index every first Chinese Character 15:39 <FJKong> switch to cmake 15:39 <FJKong> sogou pinyin: 15:39 <FJKong> test right clicking pop menu 15:39 <FJKong> eof 15:40 <willcooke> thanks FJKong 15:40 <willcooke> FJKong, any visa issues or is that all good? 15:41 <desrt> zomg. sorry! 15:41 <FJKong> no problem 15:41 <willcooke> FJKong, great! 15:41 <willcooke> #topic desrt 15:41 <FJKong> I have VISA for 2 years for UK 15:41 <willcooke> FJKong, excellent, that's worked out nicely then 15:42 <willcooke> hey desrt 15:42 <desrt> hey. had a minisprint last week for a few days, also went to xdc for a day and worked on the usual inotify stuff during friday. did some patch reviewing and stuff this morning. 15:42 <Laney> doing better the Ai Weiwei 15:42 <desrt> not much else to report 15:42 <willcooke> thanks desrt 15:43 <willcooke> #topic happyaron 15:43 <willcooke> 1. fcitx package update (but not a complete fix, thanks Laney) 15:43 <willcooke> 2. libxml2 NMU mess resolved for Debian 15:43 <willcooke> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debian-xml-sgml/libxml2.git/diff/?h=debian/2.9.2%2bzdfsg1-4&id=76c19f4d5b3328c05649314336d27c1f44a49e96&id2=fccd80a7d35b9eefabcc384d5c9fe89d9545dd22 15:43 <willcooke> 3. ubiquity slideshow update for Ubuntu Kylin 15:43 <willcooke> 4. fcitx upstream bug triaging/analysis: 15:43 <willcooke> a) misconfiguration cases - a lot for those who turn off the 15:43 <willcooke> installation of Recommends packages 15:43 <willcooke> b) fcitx ^w out-of-process UI has issues when the desktop runs 15:43 <willcooke> with thin client configurations 15:43 <willcooke> 5. pinyin search packaging: in progress 15:43 <willcooke> #topic hikiko 15:44 <hikiko> hi, : closed some bugs, fixed the cube and deformed cube caps images that appeared off-center, and I am going to investigate this shadow bug and a few other issues that were revealed while I was trying to reproduce the problem and fix the cubeaddon eof 15:44 <willcooke> thanks hikiko 15:44 <willcooke> #topic Laney 15:45 <Laney> • Normal release team stuff (FFes and so on) 15:45 <Laney> • Test/sync glib 15:45 <Laney> • Work on some s-l-o-w machines to address a gdk-pixbuf build failure - Company committed it upstream & I just uploaded to Debian, will sync if it works. 15:45 <Laney> • gtk 3.16.7 15:45 <Laney> • glib 2.45.8 15:45 <Laney> ∘ smooth some test failures (upload/fwd a fix for tracker, some retries) 15:45 <Laney> • Patch pilot, concentrated on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ubuntu-desktop.html - almost empty, help appreciated on the remainders. 15:45 <Laney> • Notice Unity was deleting launcher icons when applications were upgraded, slight behaviour change in glib, fix that. 15:45 <Laney> • Hopefully fix some trigger loops to avoid (dist-) upgrade failures 15:45 <Laney> • Look at new default wallpaper, needs greyscale version 15:45 <Laney> • Update gst-fluendo-mp3 in Debian to new release & drop 0.10 version 15:45 <Laney> • Fix toolbar fullscreen hiding in eog, not uploaded since waiting for other fixes 15:45 <Laney> ☠ 15:46 <larsu> Laney made the glib top contributors list this cycle 15:46 <Laney> HAHA 15:46 <willcooke> thanks Laney 15:46 <Laney> I think the barrier was pretty low 15:46 <willcooke> #topic larsu 15:46 <Laney> thanks larsu ♥ 15:46 <seb128> Laney, we should have a look at updating the fluendo plugin in the partner archive 15:46 <larsu> - investigate and fix unity crasher (bug #1495173) 15:46 <larsu> - unsuccessfully hunt down dbus-monitor bug (file it instead) 15:46 <larsu> - [in progress] geonames: package, review, think about how to efficiently incorporate translations 15:46 <ubot5> bug 1495173 in Unity "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in g_bit_lock()" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1495173 15:46 <larsu> - [in progress] unity-control-center: draft branch that works with geonames 15:46 <larsu> - [in progress] eog: fix fullscreen toolbar; add traditional menubar 15:46 <larsu> - [in progress] investigate making all output go to the journal and use gnome-logs 15:47 <larsu> </lars> 15:47 <larsu> s/>/u>/ 15:47 <willcooke> thanks larsu 15:47 <larsu> sorry about all the in progress stuff 15:47 * larsu should wrap up 15:47 <willcooke> seb128, larsu shall we talk fluendo now or at the end? 15:47 <seb128> yes 15:47 <willcooke> s/larsu/laney 15:47 <seb128> larsu, good list of in progress ;-) 15:48 <larsu> willcooke: you and didrocks.... 15:48 <seb128> larsu, btw I tried gnome-logs, it's nice but we loose e.g access to Xorg.0.log 15:48 <seb128> so unsure if we should switch this cycle 15:48 <seb128> or plan better for next cycle 15:48 <larsu> yes, wait for next 15:48 <larsu> it's too tight 15:48 <seb128> k 15:48 <larsu> also missing traditional menu and title bar 15:48 <seb128> willcooke, sorry for interrupting ;-) 15:48 <willcooke> nw 15:48 <seb128> larsu, well, that's ok 15:49 <seb128> more annoying at the windows corners 15:49 <seb128> but that's not specific to gnome-logs 15:49 <larsu> seb128: blame Trevinho... 15:49 <seb128> yeah, we need to put that bug on the lts list 15:49 <didrocks> +1 15:49 <larsu> seb128: I'm all for doing the switch in gtk, but then we lose shadows 15:49 <seb128> Trevinho, do you have a unity/compiz bug for that? 15:50 <Trevinho> seb128: mh, I think i read something, let me check 15:50 <seb128> Trevinho, thanks 15:50 <seb128> willcooke, I think we can continue with the meeting ;-) 15:50 <willcooke> :) 15:50 <willcooke> #topic qengho 15:50 <qengho> * fixed new armhf build problem with chromium-browser. 15:50 <qengho> * l10n and Athlon SSE worries worked out, so giving to #security for release. 15:50 <qengho> * learning how to work on firefox. Hopefully will prepare next release. 15:50 <qengho> * looked for flights, but haven't picked one yet. 15:50 <qengho> EOF 15:51 <willcooke> thanks qengho 15:51 <willcooke> #topic seb128 15:51 <Laney> qengho: will it fix the autopkgtests? 15:51 <seb128> • synced some bugfix updates from debian 15:51 <seb128> • desktop updates (totem, webkitgtk, bluez) 15:51 <seb128> • NEW reviews 15:51 <seb128> • fixed u-c-c/bluez5 regression with ssp devices 15:51 <seb128> • reviewed e.u.c top errors, reported some bugs on launchpad and upstream, pinged some people about some of the issues 15:51 <seb128> • helped with the unity bugs triaging 15:51 <seb128> • investigated software-center/unity integration issue 15:51 <seb128> • looked at syslog warnings and reported some bugs with details about some of those 15:51 <seb128> • reviewed packaging & tried new geonames library for larsu 15:51 <seb128> • contributed to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=rls-w-incoming ... if you have some free cycles please try to have a look and pick a few bugs 15:52 <seb128> we have quite some annoying bugs on that list ^, would be nice to tackle some before wily if we can 15:52 <qengho> Laney: No, it won't. That's some dependency of a dependency of a dependency problem that I haven't tracked down. 15:52 <seb128> willcooke, I wonder if we need another list for wily, or maybe milestone as well 15:52 <Laney> you're meant to triage from the incoming list 15:52 <larsu> seb128: thanks for looking at those warnings! 15:52 <seb128> we dumped "would be nice to fix for the lts" on rls-w-incoming 15:52 <willcooke> seb128, well I was adding to that list because X-incoming doesn't (didnt) exist 15:53 <seb128> Laney, yeah, but we didn't use it this way, we used it as a lts todolist... 15:53 <didrocks> or use priority to order the list? 15:53 <seb128> Laney, see ^ 15:53 <willcooke> so I think if we can do anything on that list now, great - but then we can do a proper review at the sprint at take across the ones we want 15:53 <Laney> it can be both 15:53 <seb128> didrocks, launchpad doesn't have priority, importance you mean? but some "low" importance are easy to fix and should be done for wily imho 15:53 <Laney> to target bugs, nominate and remove the tag 15:53 <Laney> review the rest of them to move to rls-x-incoming 15:54 <willcooke> seb128, oh - right, what you said. Misread it. 15:54 <didrocks> seb128: importance, yeah, sorry, I think we could focus on the critical/high one. Doesn't prevent anyone having some free time to pick an easy "low" one 15:54 <seb128> right 15:54 <seb128> we should probably make a rls-x-incoming and move things there 15:54 <willcooke> +1 15:54 <seb128> good 15:54 <seb128> thanks 15:54 <Laney> why? 15:55 <Laney> or, why before this release? 15:55 <seb128> Laney, to have a better view of what is for wily 15:55 <seb128> and what is not 15:55 <Laney> that view is supposed to be http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html 15:55 <seb128> so we just need to accept nominations? 15:56 <Laney> nominate and remove the tag 15:56 * Laney just checked that old email 15:56 <seb128> k 15:56 <seb128> wfm 15:56 <seb128> going to do that 15:56 <seb128> Laney, thanks ;-) 15:56 <Laney> then we can see what's left after release to move over 15:56 <Laney> ty 15:56 <seb128> I didn't use that page for a while, I forgot how it was working 15:56 <Laney> try with some test one at first maybe 15:56 <Laney> to make sure it works 15:56 <seb128> right 15:57 <willcooke> ok, that sounds good 15:57 <willcooke> so keep adding to rls-w-incoming for now then 15:58 <seb128> :-) 15:58 * willcooke checks the sprint agenda 15:59 <willcooke> added 15:59 <willcooke> to the top 15:59 <willcooke> #topic sweet5hark 15:59 <willcooke> - LibreOffice conference 15:59 <willcooke> #topic TheMuso 16:00 <willcooke> * Finished packaging up PulseAudio 6.99.2, which will become 7.0 shortly. It can be found in ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing, amd64 and i386 only, armhf failed to build due to qemu related segfault. 16:00 <willcooke> * Fleshed out a little more design for the accessibility profile blueprint, and finished drafting a blog post about it. 16:00 <willcooke> * Started preparing at-spi and orca package updates to be put into the Ubuntu Accessibility dev PPA for general use. Updates will be provided from ppa:accessibility-dev/ppa for Orca, and the at-spi stack, for the LTS, vivid, and wily. 16:00 <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter 16:00 <tkamppeter> - hplip: Backported hpcups crash fix from upstream, use pkexec instead of gksu for hp-plugin-ubuntu 16:00 <tkamppeter> - cups: USB-backend: Added new quirk rules for delayed closing of the backend for several older HP LaserJet printers 16:00 <tkamppeter> - ippusbxd: Released 1.23 which logs all communication content as hex dump in debug mode and actually automatically terminates when the printer is disconnected or turned off. 16:00 <tkamppeter> - Bugs. 16:00 <willcooke> tjamls tkamppeter 16:01 <willcooke> erm, thanks tkamppeter 16:01 <willcooke> tkamppeter, did your parcel arrive yet? 16:02 <willcooke> #topic Trevinho 16:02 <Trevinho> · Debugging webkit-gtk to get proper OSB theming. Speaking with upstream. 16:02 <Trevinho> · Fixed unit tests on nux, now they run at every build. 16:02 <Trevinho> · Fixed nux events handling on mouse-release when a new view was getting the mouse input 16:02 <Trevinho> · Some tweaking on bugs management scripts 16:02 <Trevinho> · Show-menus-tuning unity branch 16:02 <Trevinho> · New unity/nux landing 16:02 <Trevinho> · Add selective grab to compiz and use it in move and resize plugins 16:02 <Trevinho> · New fixes for gsettings in libunity 16:02 <Trevinho> · Prepared no-change SRU for compiz in vivid to get dbgsym's 16:02 <Trevinho> · Finished work on new dash OSB (after fighting with nux bugs and oddities), needs cleanup 16:02 <Trevinho> · Got sprint flights 16:02 <Trevinho> · Reviews 16:02 <Trevinho> 16:03 <willcooke> :) thanks Trevinho 16:03 <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell 16:03 <willcooke> - Attended XDC 2015 16:03 <willcooke> - Released simple-scan 3.18.0 16:03 <willcooke> #topic any other business 16:04 <willcooke> Please get your travel auth in if you haven't already 16:04 <willcooke> Anyone else? 16:04 <desrt> i'd like to share this: 16:04 <desrt> http://www.animalstown.com/animals/animals-x.php 16:04 <willcooke> :D 16:05 <Laney> do I need to do auth to buy the train ticket myself? 16:05 <willcooke> Laney, nah, just expense it 16:05 <Laney> yessssssssssss 16:05 <willcooke> well, that's what I'm doing 16:06 <andyrock> do we need to ask for a pass card to enter in the office? 16:06 <Laney> nah 16:06 <andyrock> \o/ 16:06 <willcooke> andyrock, you'll get a visitors badge 16:06 * willcooke will make sure reception are expecting you 16:06 <desrt> are we staying at citizenM? 16:07 <willcooke> desrt, we are 16:07 * Trevinho has an office pass :P 16:07 <desrt> awesome 16:07 <willcooke> I find the place a bit oppressive tbh 16:08 <desrt> it's modern and not too fancy 16:08 <desrt> and the plumbing works properly 16:08 <willcooke> hahaha 16:08 <willcooke> and the windows don't rattle 16:08 <willcooke> and there are less ghosts 16:08 <desrt> they also have international power plugs in the room 16:09 <desrt> because, ya, sometimes hotel guests come from other countries 16:09 <Trevinho> for some reason nobody consider the Italian plug anyway (with ground in the middle) 16:09 <willcooke> ??? 16:09 <Laney> they have a bed which you can sleep in any way round 16:09 <Laney> and colouful showers 16:09 <Laney> so it wins for me 16:09 * willcooke likes the breakfast 16:09 <desrt> they also have a nice downstairs area 16:09 <desrt> yes. breakfast is very very good there. 16:10 <desrt> the staff is also friendly and helpful 16:10 <willcooke> I'm probably only going to stay over weds & thurs night and commute the rest of the time. Because babies 16:10 <willcooke> anyway - we can continue this after the meeting 16:10 <willcooke> #endmeeting