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15:31 <attente_> hi
15:31 * didrocks notes down Laney's remark :)
15:31 * larsu never experienced passive aggressive Laney
15:32 <Laney> just making sure man
15:32 <larsu> :D
15:32 <Laney> got my ass handed to me last week
15:32 * larsu remembers
15:32 <didrocks> ahah, seems seb128 was really upseting you! :)
15:32 <larsu> you should have subtly pinged seb128 in there
15:32 <didrocks> let's start
15:32 <didrocks> #topic attente_
15:32 <didrocks> attente_: hey!
15:33 <attente_> stop u-s-d and u-c-c from pulling in fcitx-bin on dist-upgrade, which was causing it to become default...
15:33 <attente_> i've got ibus somewhat running under mir, but it requires a lot of user intervention and the candidate window needs debugging
15:33 <seb128> Laney, nice to see you are on time for the meeting for once
15:33 <seb128> :-)
15:33 <desrt> seb128: ya.  i was surprised too.
15:33 <Laney> didrocks: take control of these guys
15:34 <didrocks> Laney: not really, I find that funny :)
15:34 <didrocks> attente_: did you put on a wiki the necessary steps for setting up ibus under mir?
15:34 <attente_> didrocks: no, i can write them up though. it is really not user friendly...
15:35 <larsu> step 1) chown some device node to get mir running
15:35 <didrocks> attente_: well, once think you made enough progress, it would probably be worthwile to write that down so that we can maybe help there in the automation
15:35 <didrocks> (just an idea)
15:36 <didrocks> attente_: anything else? (are you done?)
15:36 <attente_> didrocks: that's it
15:36 <didrocks> thanks attente_
15:36 <didrocks> #topic desrt
15:36 <desrt> sorry
15:36 <didrocks> hey desrt
15:36 <desrt> gotta run
15:36 <desrt> back in 10
15:36 <didrocks> #troll
15:37 <desrt> i meant 10 seconds
15:37 <desrt> anyway
15:37 <desrt> last week i did mostly cleanup of documentation stuff in preparation for the release
15:37 <desrt> wasted a lot of time trying to understand the weird hybrid of docbook/markdown that's in gtk-doc, then wrote some patches to fix things up
15:37 <desrt> and did some fixes in glib itself
15:38 <desrt> we're now at a spot where we have (almost) no warnings on building the docbook xml, so i hope to enable that by default (and throw errors when it fails) by the next release
15:38 <desrt> i also did releases yesterday
15:38 <desrt> and i've been working on my jhbuild-in-debootstrap-chroot stuff as well
15:38 <desrt> that's all
15:38 <didrocks> desrt: mind fixing systemd docbook xml as well while you are at it, seems you love that? (there are still some warnings ;))
15:39 <desrt> i don't actually enjoy this :p
15:39 <desrt> but uh... we always have problems with missing new symbols in glib documentation
15:39 <desrt> and nobody notices because they're lost in the raft of other warnings
15:39 <desrt> so we really needed to get on top of that....
15:39 * larsu never has this problem
15:39 <desrt> naturally, larsu is #1 offender
15:39 <didrocks> yeah, would be nice to be able to stop missing symbols in documentation :)
15:39 <desrt> (...tied with everyone else)
15:39 <didrocks> nice work desrt, even if tedious!
15:40 <desrt> fin.
15:40 * didrocks got the last word as if it was a familiar language
15:40 <didrocks> #topic dgadomski
15:40 <didrocks> dgadomski: hey, anything to share with us this week?
15:40 <dgadomski> hello guys
15:40 <dgadomski> refactoring and cleaning up patch for bug #1337873
15:40 <ubot5> bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Ubuntu) "Precise, Trusty, Utopic - ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873
15:40 <dgadomski> trying to get some support from upstream for kernel feature backport (bug #1104230)
15:40 <ubot5> bug 1104230 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "DisplayPort 1.2 MST support is missing in the Intel driver" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1104230
15:41 <dgadomski> verifying cyphermox's fix for bug #1386131 (waiting for actual user's preseed file to test it 'in the wild') - looks good so far
15:41 <ubot5> bug 1386131 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "Preseeding encrypted lvm fails instead of asking for password" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386131
15:41 <didrocks> nice! anything needed from us?
15:42 <dgadomski> my email to the desktop mailing list about the mount options in nautilus still lacks response, seb128 was saying about providing some feedback to start a discussion
15:42 <dgadomski> I would appreciate that if possible
15:42 <didrocks> dgadomski: noting down, today he's at a sprint, but we will look at it tomorrow
15:42 <dgadomski> cool, thanks
15:43 <dgadomski> that's all from me today
15:43 <didrocks> thanks dgadomski!
15:43 <didrocks> #topic happyaron
15:43 <didrocks> happyaron: hey, around?
15:44 <desrt> if willcooke was running this meeting, he'd have the notes for pasting
15:44 <desrt> just saying....
15:44 <didrocks> desrt: I got some, but none from happyaron
15:44 <didrocks> (fw by willcooke)
15:44 <desrt> if willcooke was running this meeting, he'd have made some up!
15:44 <didrocks> not sure if he got them too late
15:44 <didrocks> ahah
15:44 <didrocks> well:
15:44 <didrocks> - make fcitx installed on the live
15:45 <didrocks> - MIR for cmake-extra
15:45 <didrocks> .
15:45 <didrocks> DONE ;)
15:45 <desrt> not bad ;)
15:45 <didrocks> and all true!
15:45 <desrt> ya.  that's the impressive part :)
15:45 <didrocks> #topic FJKong
15:45 <FJKong> hey
15:45 <FJKong> continue pinyin searching now need find a key value database to store result of converting, optimize speed of converting
15:45 <didrocks> FJKong: around? I don't have fake notes for you though :p
15:45 <FJKong> locate problem of bug :fcitx cpu 100% in calling of dbus
15:45 <FJKong> utuntu phone env setup and learn how to start to make a scope
15:46 <Laney> he also fixed presage to not pull more stuff into main
15:46 <didrocks> FJKong: oh, some scope hacking, enjoy :)
15:46 <didrocks> FJKong: should we be concerned about the fcitx cpu bug?
15:47 <FJKong> didrocks: I think it is cause by sogou module
15:47 <didrocks> FJKong: keep us posted,now that fcitx is installed by default, in case is triggered by $anything
15:47 <FJKong> so only in these who install sogou input method
15:47 <didrocks> ok, sounds at least located, if you need help, do not hesitate
15:48 <FJKong> didrocks: thanks
15:48 <didrocks> yw, thanks!
15:48 <didrocks> #topic Laney
15:48 * larsu wonders if Laney is even here
15:48 <desrt> didrocks: he went for a walk ;)
15:48 <didrocks> larsu: was going to write approx. the same :)
15:48 * desrt watches Laney rack up the points with each passing moment
15:48 <Laney> :)
15:49 <larsu> we should all stop making the same jokes
15:49 <Laney> I was finding a cool unicode symbol
15:49 <Laney> think I've topped all others
15:49 <Laney> • Package new wallpapers
15:49 <Laney> • Updates gdk-pixbuf pinta gvfs empathy intltool (in Debian too)
15:49 <Laney> • Stab at failing image builds
15:49 <Laney> ∘ qtquickcontrols MIR & testsuite fixes
15:49 <Laney> ∘ fonts-* stuff
15:49 <Laney> ∘ test failure blocking promotion from pending to current
15:49 <Laney> • Discussions about how best to do fcitx by default for zh
15:49 <Laney> • Merge patch to runtime detect spam software in evo
15:49 <Laney> • Poke about making sure MSN and FB chat are disabled
15:49 <Laney> • FFes and fun stuff like that
15:49 <Laney> ℻
15:49 <larsu> haha
15:49 <didrocks> nice unicode char :)
15:50 <didrocks> thanks for looking at the failing image builds btw, nice to get some
15:50 <desrt> as in "and those are the ℻  about what i've been working on" ?
15:50 <desrt> or is there some other meaning to this word?
15:50 * larsu mumbles something about the late 80s
15:51 <didrocks> larsu: while you are mumbling, it's your turn!
15:51 <didrocks> #topic larsu
15:51 <larsu> theming week again \o/
15:51 <Laney> there's also ㍶ btw
15:51 <larsu> well, at least partly: I played around a lot trying to make totem's osd look nice
15:52 <larsu> couldn't get anything good (turns out I'm not a visual designer) so I went all minimal
15:52 <larsu> also finished up the titlebar branch a bit
15:52 <Laney> what did -doc say?
15:52 <larsu> nothing yet?
15:52 <Laney> ok?
15:52 <larsu> I think my ffe exception mail is still in some moderator queue
15:52 <larsu> at least I didn't get a response
15:53 <larsu> there was also quite some discussion about headerbar styling (again) this week
15:53 <larsu> and gedit (again)
15:53 <larsu> with no result (again)
15:53 <didrocks> :(
15:54 <didrocks> larsu: on -doc, IIRC, dpm has some moderation power on the ML, maybe ping him? (I may be wrong)
15:54 <larsu> dpm: ping ^^
15:54 <dpm> didrocks, larsu, I don't think I've got admin on that list, just ubuntu-translators
15:55 <didrocks> larsu: got luck with the moderators hunting then!
15:55 <didrocks> thanks dpm :)
15:55 <dpm> sorry I couldn't help much
15:55 <desrt> larsu: could always just join the list?
15:56 <didrocks> yeah, let's try to get it moving, larsu tell us if you need help, I can look if I got some archives about who did what on that list
15:56 <didrocks> ok, let's move on
15:56 <larsu> bah sorry connection troubles
15:57 <didrocks> no worry, anything to add?
15:57 <larsu> something's wrong with this machine's wifi
15:57 <larsu> ya
15:57 <didrocks> ja*
15:57 <larsu> did some hacking on gnome-desktop because of a background issue on ubiquity
15:57 <larsu> in summary: our hidpi wallpaper situation is *bad*
15:58 <larsu> as in, we scale the image down and back up
15:58 <larsu> resulting in a blurry bg
15:58 <larsu> I also started looking into the change password dialog in u-c-c not working, but was distracted by all the previous stuff I mentioned
15:58 <seb128> larsu, wfm, I used today
15:58 <seb128> the change pwd
15:59 <larsu> seb128: oh. Not for me?!
15:59 <larsu> interesting
15:59 <seb128> works on my 2 laptops
15:59 <seb128> including ecryptfs
15:59 <seb128> so dunno, but let me know if you figure it out ;-)
15:59 <larsu> apparently it got fixed since I looked at it last week?
15:59 <larsu> whatevs. I'll have another look
15:59 <larsu> </larsu>
16:00 <didrocks> thanks larsu
16:00 <didrocks> #topic qengho
16:00 <didrocks> qengho: hey, how is going the chromium world?
16:00 <qengho> It's okay. Jut one item so far this week.
16:00 <qengho> - Working on chromium pixel-density strangeness. Old Gtk2 tab-bars perhaps fixed, needs testing. Off-screen pop-up windows still a mystery.
16:00 <qengho> EOF
16:01 <didrocks> oh, that was will's bug, right?
16:01 <qengho> The second part is his.
16:01 <qengho> THe first is a different one.
16:01 <didrocks> ok, interesting, seems some kind of *dpi week ;)
16:02 <didrocks> thanks qengho
16:02 <didrocks> #topic mlankhorst
16:02 <didrocks> mlankhorst: I gave you some additional minutes, hoping you are back now!
16:02 <didrocks> (seems so from #ubuntu-devel)
16:03 <didrocks> ok, let's see if he's back again later
16:04 <didrocks> #topic tkamppeter
16:04 <didrocks> tkamppeter: around?
16:04 <tkamppeter> Yes
16:04 <tkamppeter> - Organization of the OpenPrinting Summit 2015
16:04 <tkamppeter> - hplip: Fixed another Python3 transition bug
16:04 <tkamppeter> - Bugs
16:04 <tkamppeter> - Moving to Brazil
16:05 <didrocks> moving to Brazil? nice!
16:05 <larsu> oh cool!
16:05 <larsu> tkamppeter: where are you moving to?
16:05 <desrt> tkamppeter: if you were sick of mitte, you could have tried kreuzburg
16:05 <larsu> desrt: *kreuzberg
16:05 * larsu teaches this guy German all the way from Schlesisches Tor
16:06 <tkamppeter> Yes, now I am in the middle of the move, the big boxes with the stuff are sent out and I will fly on Friday.
16:06 <desrt> burg... berg... it's all bahnhof to me
16:06 <larsu> desrt: you mean castle / mountain
16:06 <tkamppeter> And a lot of furniture and a car have been sold.
16:07 <Laney> not the printer collection
16:07 <didrocks> ahah :)
16:07 <Laney> dear god please not the printer collection
16:07 <larsu> tkamppeter: have a safe trip!
16:07 <didrocks> tkamppeter: good luck with the move!
16:07 <desrt> tkamppeter: safe travels :)
16:07 <tkamppeter> It goes to Belo Horizonte, third largest city of Brazil, capital of the state Minas Gerais, birth place of my wife.
16:07 <desrt> tkamppeter: lots of family there, i guess?
16:08 <tkamppeter> desrt, I had already moved from Mitte to Pankow earlier.
16:08 <desrt> tkamppeter: yuck.  no wonder you want to move to another country ;)
16:08 <desrt> outside the ring, man!!
16:08 <tkamppeter> The printer collection is partially sold, mainly very old or broken printers, and three printers are in the big box.
16:08 <larsu> desrt: don't talk down on Pankow.
16:08 <larsu> desrt: just don't.
16:09 <desrt> larsu: too close to home?
16:09 <larsu> no it's actually quite far
16:09 <larsu> but it's nice there
16:09 <larsu> my grandparents used to live there
16:09 <didrocks> let's continue best locations (it's Lyon anyway) discussion later on…
16:10 <didrocks> thanks tkamppeter, and safe flight!
16:10 <didrocks> #topic seb128
16:10 <seb128> hey
16:10 <tkamppeter> desrt, but it was very close to the ring, so one went more to Prenzlauer Berg for shopping and not to Pankow.
16:10 <seb128> • updated tbe click chroot code to handle missing upstart (was making sdk env
16:10 <seb128> creation bug)
16:10 <seb128> • submitted fix for invalid gvariant ref handling in telephony-service,
16:10 <seb128> thanks larsu for pointing out the problem
16:10 <seb128> • helped robert_ancell to get sort out sync/blacklist issues for some
16:10 <seb128> fonts packages
16:10 <seb128> • updated uitk example gallery to use valid documentation references
16:10 <seb128> • reported some issues with the developer website
16:10 <seb128> • looked more at the gnome-bg hidpi issues
16:10 <seb128> • ubuntu-system-settings
16:10 <tkamppeter> Yes, a lot of family in BH.
16:10 <seb128> ∘ fixed text entries not getting the initial focus in bt pairing dialog
16:10 <seb128> (and sim forwarding)
16:10 <seb128> • tried to make the phone advertize over bt as a phone rather than a computer with init scripts but that seems to not work reliably, need to maybe look at a different way to do that (config override?)
16:10 <seb128> • investigated a bit bluetooth autopairing of input device (not having to confirm the 0000 number manually)
16:10 <seb128> that's it from me ;-)
16:10 <seb128> hey from London btw
16:10 <seb128> thanks didrocks for handling the meeting ;-)
16:10 <desrt> seb128: say hi to everyone there :)
16:10 * didrocks sends some sun to seb128
16:11 <didrocks> seb128: yw!
16:11 <seb128> didrocks, oh, sun from the south of France, niiiice
16:11 <seb128> desrt, k :-)
16:11 * desrt waits for it
16:11 <didrocks> seb128: so previsible
16:11 <seb128> :p
16:11 <didrocks> predictable*
16:11 <desrt> *shrug* http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/previsible
16:12 <didrocks> seb128: enjoy the rest of meetings there, thanks for stopping by!
16:12 <seb128> thanks!
16:12 <didrocks> #topic robert_ancell
16:13 <didrocks> Worked on:
16:13 <didrocks> - XMir handover
16:13 <didrocks> - lightdm SRUs
16:13 <didrocks> - Indic fonts
16:13 <didrocks> Currently working on:
16:13 <didrocks> - TPM
16:13 <didrocks> #topic TheMuso
16:13 <didrocks> * More unity 7 dash accessibility work.
16:13 <didrocks> * Begun installer accessibility testing, to ensure no regressions.
16:13 <didrocks> #topic didrocks
16:13 <didrocks> Ubuntu Make:
16:14 <didrocks> - did a minor release with user experience enhancements and bug/tests fixes (more info on https://plus.google.com/+DidierRoche/posts/EP1DNeEkknx)
16:14 <didrocks> systemd:
16:14 <didrocks> - upstream discussion on fsckd changes that were needed to be done. Posted patches with the suggestions. All but one were reviewed, waiting for some feedbacks.
16:14 <didrocks> - worked on nfs-utils/data transitions, waiting now on Steve's answer.
16:14 <didrocks> - worked on whoopsie and whoopsie-preferences systemd integration followup to fix bugs #1412719 and bugs #1431432. In vivid now. As the transition is quite complex, I would appreciate if someone could test it as well with unity control center.
16:14 <didrocks> - started to replace during pitti's vacations handling/looking at systemd-related bugs.
16:14 <ubot5> bug 1412719 in whoopsie (Ubuntu) "wait-for-state restarts whoopsie every 30sec" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1412719
16:14 <didrocks> Misc:
16:14 <ubot5> bug 1431432 in whoopsie-preferences (Ubuntu) "conffiles prompt on vivid upgrade if report_metrics is enabled" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1431432
16:14 <didrocks> - media-hub and cmake-extra MIR review/acking
16:14 <didrocks> - discussions on MIR process for components nobody doesn't really want to own and archive admin processes (with demotion and promotion of some components to "fix" tracker/grilo-plugins situations).
16:14 <didrocks> - various fcitx/image size discussions while getting it by default on the live image.
16:14 <didrocks> .
16:14 <didrocks> #topic misc
16:14 <didrocks> any pending questions?
16:14 <didrocks> hdpi discussions that we need to have? :)
16:14 <didrocks> or input method?
16:14 <desrt> anyone know a launchpad hacker? :)
16:14 <larsu> yes, we do
16:14 <tkamppeter> Thanks and Obrigado all for the good wishes for my move!
16:15 <desrt> this is annoying: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/335161
16:15 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 335161 in Launchpad itself "PPAs should export Contents-amd64.gz files" [Low,Triaged]
16:15 <larsu> didrocks: but really, we need a sprint
16:15 <didrocks> desrt: starts with a c ;)
16:15 <desrt> sorry.  rather this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/638498
16:15 <didrocks> larsu: +1
16:15 <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 638498 in Launchpad itself "Contents files are not listed with checksums" [Low,Triaged]
16:15 <desrt> it's making it more difficult to support 'jhbuild sysdeps --install' for ubuntu
16:15 <didrocks> desrt: hum, I think we can get some urls with it, let me check after meeting
16:16 <didrocks> the first one at least, I don't remember about the checksums
16:16 <desrt> didrocks: i know the files are online... trouble is they're not listed in the Release file
16:16 <didrocks> needs to check old CI train code
16:16 <didrocks> oh really? sounds weird
16:16 <desrt> ya...
16:16 <seb128> desrt, try asking cjwatson maybe :-)
16:16 <didrocks> yeah, that was my c* hint :)
16:16 <seb128> he moved to launchpad
16:16 <desrt> interesting
16:17 <desrt> that sounds very promising indeed :)
16:17 <Laney> I predict a bzr branch lp:launchpad in desrt's future
16:17 <seb128> lol
16:17 <didrocks> Laney: went there as well? :)
16:17 <desrt> desrt@humber:~$ bzr
16:17 <desrt> bash: bzr: command not found
16:17 <desrt> *cough*
16:17 <didrocks> desrt: if bzr is the issue, there is a cool git plugin :)
16:17 <Laney> git bzr clone!
16:17 <desrt> sounds too much like 'git bz'
16:18 <desrt> anyway... one other piece of business
16:18 <desrt> i just wanted to say that this meeting was run in an extremely excellent way
16:18 <desrt> i quite enjoyed it
16:18 <didrocks> thanks desrt :)
16:18 <larsu> I'm just happy noone was on strike
16:18 <didrocks> roh :p
16:18 <desrt> took me a second ;)
16:18 <larsu> didrocks: :P Thanks for running the meeting!
16:19 <didrocks> yw guys!
16:19 <didrocks> #endmeeting