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16:00:56 <jono> woo!
16:00:59 <dpm> ok!
16:01:03 <jono> welcome folks to the community team meeting
16:01:41 <jono> so normally we do the roundtable summaries of what each member of the team has been working on, and I figured we would spin through these and just provide some short summaries and then move onto agenda items
16:01:46 <jono> jcastro_, want to go first?
16:02:11 <dholbach> jono, yep, back again - just finished a hangout-on-air :)
16:02:16 <jcastro_> sure, one sec
16:02:44 <jcastro_> # Welcome to Jorge's Weekly IRC Report
16:02:46 <jcastro_> This week's report brought to you by Africa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP8m6mYRJiU
16:02:51 <jcastro_> ## Doing
16:02:53 <jcastro_> - Doc/website/charmweb reorganization still in process. This is bigger than I anticipated when I decided to Just Do It(tm). Oh well, at least it's better than it was before. Work in progress with design/IS/other Juju folks on next steps.
16:03:00 <jcastro_> - Charms landing soon:
16:03:07 <jono> dholbach, :-)
16:03:07 <jcastro_> - marcoceppi's mediawiki work
16:03:09 <jcastro_> - marcoceppi's "add apache to wordpress" work
16:03:11 <jcastro_> - Charms fixes from IS and across the board from Canonical in general
16:03:29 <jcastro_> ** strategic pause **
16:03:36 <jcastro_> ## Done
16:03:41 <jcastro_> - OID plugin for forums done, IS is deploying this now in test. Last I saw there were some problems with the templates needing to be fixed? Anyone know or look into this?
16:03:42 <jcastro_> - Talk submitted for SCaLE 11x
16:03:52 <jcastro_> - All Charm shows/conferences planned for 2k13 - AWW YEAH.
16:03:54 <jcastro_> - Queue is in awesome shape, especially after getting crushed after UDS.
16:03:56 <jcastro_> - Sent "State of the Juju" summary to -devel and -news, getting more info out to people who might not be following closely.
16:04:09 <jcastro_> and finally:
16:04:16 <jcastro_> ## TODO
16:04:25 <jcastro_> - Doc reorged with evilnick, need to actually do that, but can't do it in a vacuum (dependencies on maas docs, what everyone else is doing so we don't have docs different from everyone else - docs make me want to stab bunnies.)
16:04:27 <jcastro_> - "Queueify" nearly every charm process as part of the charm onramp.
16:04:32 <jcastro_> - Need to follow up with mramm on a Pyramid charm
16:04:34 <jcastro_> - Update OpenStack provider stuff.
16:04:39 <jcastro_> - Redeploy juju.u.c on prodstack with mbarnett
16:04:41 <jcastro_> - Mark Mims is now a member; this should bring more charm information to planet.
16:04:48 <jcastro_> ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED? (Any questions?)
16:05:10 <jono> any questions for jcastro_?
16:05:55 <jono> no?
16:05:58 <jcastro_> \o/
16:06:00 <jono> ok, dholbach, want to go next?
16:06:06 <dpm> \m/
16:06:27 <dpm> jono, dholbach just came from a hangout on air, I can go next
16:06:50 <dholbach> thanks dpm - still finishing some small bits in my notes
16:07:24 <jono> cool
16:07:27 <jono> go ahead dpm
16:07:32 <dpm> ok, then if it's ok, I'll go for it
16:07:41 <dpm> k
16:07:46 <dpm> It's been a short week for me, as I've just come back from a long bank holiday.
16:08:01 <dpm> Here are some highlights on what I spent some of my last week:
16:08:23 <dpm> - Started setting up a staging djangosnippets.org instance to assess if it would work for the snippets section on d.u.c (still ongoing)
16:09:00 <dpm> - Prepared some content updates for d.u.c (still ongoing)
16:09:13 <dpm> - Worked with the Comms team to get more community participation in user stories
16:09:29 <dpm> On that last one, we'll write a blog post with more info soon
16:10:02 <dpm> but in the meantime, if you know anyone that uses Ubuntu for their professional work, do get them in touch with me
16:10:10 <dpm> Other bits and pieces:
16:10:21 <dpm> - Escalated bug 1045691 and bug 1081504 affecting Extras apps
16:10:22 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1045691 in Ubuntu Apps Directory "Swapped short description and name for extras.u.c apps" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1045691
16:10:23 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1081504 in Ubuntu Apps Directory "Extras apps do not use the provided icon" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081504
16:10:37 <dpm> - Documented how raw HTML docs are published on developer.ubuntu.com for jcastro and dholbach
16:11:02 <dpm> - Helped aquarius a bit with some questions he had about the Quickly QtQuick template
16:11:25 <dpm> And that's mostly it, short update this time. Any questions?
16:12:26 <jono> any questions for dpm?
16:13:24 <jono> ok
16:13:25 <jono> dholbach, !
16:13:31 <dholbach> I can go now. :-)
16:13:36 <dholbach> yoohoo!
16:13:44 <dholbach> - Ubuntu Packaging Guide: available in Spanish and soon in Russian - see it in all its glory: developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/ - took over publishing the guide on developer.u.c from David
16:14:03 <dholbach> - Ubuntu Developer Week: planning started, schedule 50% filled, will happen end of January
16:14:27 <dholbach> - Automated Testing Hack fest: discussions, updated list of required tests, some more planning and announced for Thursday
16:14:50 <dholbach> - ubuntudev Hangouts: are getting more and more popular - last I interviewed Rick Spencer and Iain Lane, coming up: Didier Roche and Chris Wilson
16:15:20 <dholbach> - Bug fixing initiatives: wrote a script to get data from the lintian test runs automatically into Harvest, so we don't have to update wiki pages manually - we need some more small fixes in Harvest to makes this a little  bit more effective though
16:15:37 <dholbach> - Nexus7 team: meetings, discussed memory consumption measurement, did quite a bit of testing myself - raring installs perfectly now
16:15:54 <dholbach> - Dev Advisory Team: business as usual, reaching out to contributors and helping them to put their dev applications together, published report about last cycle, planning how we deal with contributor data in the future, so we analyse less data manually
16:16:11 <dholbach> - +1 maintenance team: started discussions with Adam Conrad on how we can get more people involved in keeping ubuntu+1 working smoothly
16:16:47 <dholbach> The above were the bigger pieces of works, the rest were lots of small things here and there as usual. :)
16:16:50 <dholbach> Any questions?
16:17:51 <jono> any questions for dholbach?
16:18:02 <jono> balloons, you are up :-)
16:18:10 <balloons> excellent
16:18:40 <balloons> I've got no ascii art or other special effects atm, so boom, here we go
16:18:49 <balloons> WORKING:
16:18:49 <balloons> Working with many different folks on writing new testscases (autopilot and manual) ;-)
16:19:13 <balloons> I've very happy to see everyone diving in on this, and look forward to showcasing some of the work in our next cadence week (no pressue)
16:19:26 <balloons> Deployed revised testcases for iso -- more focused tests, with extra features split out to a specific testcase and removed from all tests (thanks to Carla for these)
16:19:50 <balloons> there's still a bit more work here, but in general, the tests (while more focused and more of them), should be shorter and to the point
16:20:10 <balloons> as of this morning, deploying new hardware testcases written by Sergio.. thanks mate
16:21:04 <balloons> also, the next pieces of the autopilot guide are in the oven
16:21:37 <balloons> and finally, Cadence Week 2 -- raring style is in full swing.. shotwell, network manager and the iso tests are all on the table
16:21:45 <balloons> COMING SOON:
16:21:45 <balloons> first pass at quality summary on qa dashboard
16:22:27 <balloons> the qa dashboard itself landed last week, and it looks nice.. I'll be adding a pretty summary to make interperting things about quality easier
16:22:54 <balloons> and finally I wanted to start mentioning the classroom series for QA we'll be doing in Janurary
16:23:31 <balloons> Sessions on bugs, testing, and doing QA -- and you don't even have to listen to me. Many are being done by other community folks, ;-p
16:23:40 <balloons> That's all folks!
16:24:05 <dholbach> where's the autopilot guide going to live?
16:24:46 <balloons> dholbach, I would like to migrate it somewhere once completed.. need to talk with thomi about the overall documentation plan for autopilot
16:25:02 <balloons> for now, I'm focused on simply getting documentation out
16:25:11 <balloons> and of course, getting real world use!
16:25:30 <dholbach> sure
16:25:41 <dholbach> let's talk about it once you have all the content ready :)
16:25:53 <balloons> (I'm open to ideas -- in fact, I need to ask you about lumping tests into packages)
16:25:58 <jono> balloons, any more status?
16:26:11 <balloons> I'm status'd out methinks
16:26:38 <jono> ok
16:26:43 <jono> mhall119, you are up!
16:26:55 <jono> if mhall119 is here...
16:26:59 <jono> he said he might not make it
16:27:35 <jono> ok
16:27:39 <jono> I guess not :-)
16:27:43 <jono> * General
16:27:48 <jono> - Was on paternity leave for a few weeks.
16:27:55 <jono> - 13.04 plan looking good. Started to delve into the work items.
16:28:02 <jono> - Syncing up with team members after paternity.
16:28:07 <jono> * Community Website
16:28:13 <jono> - Working with Mike to get a canonistack instance up.
16:28:19 <jono> - Docs day scheduled for Thursday.
16:28:23 <jono> * Events:
16:28:28 <jono> - General prep for CES.
16:28:33 <jono> - Planning participation at the next UDS, sprints and some other conferences.
16:28:39 <jono> * Privacy Concerns
16:28:44 <jono> - Raising the concerns internally and trying to get a better response out of Canonical.
16:28:50 <jono> - Responding to press enquiries.
16:28:55 <jono> * Juju
16:29:00 <jono> - Reaching out to businesses to encourage Juju adoption.
16:29:03 <jono> - Syncing up internally around charm QA drive.
16:29:08 <jono> * LoCos:
16:29:11 <jono> - Started to get things rolling to help LoCo teams.
16:29:16 <jono> - Call with Randall Ross on Friday.
16:29:19 <jono> - Meeting with the team to identify LoCo participation in team work.
16:29:24 <jono> - Coordinated with Daniel around the ADK - keen to discuss this in the meeting.
16:29:27 <jono> * Accomplishments:
16:29:29 <jono> - Server is provisioneed by IS.
16:29:38 <jono> - Working with Mike today to get the instructions written ready for IS to deploy.
16:29:40 <jono> any questions?
16:30:10 <jono> alright
16:30:16 <jono> any agenda items to discuss?
16:30:58 <dholbach> I'm all set.
16:31:09 <dpm> I've no items this week
16:31:24 <jono> ok, I wanted to discuss LoCo Teams
16:31:29 <jono> czajkowski, are you here?
16:31:34 <jono> rrnwexec, are you here too?
16:31:39 <rrnwexec> present :)
16:31:42 <jono> cool :-)
16:31:48 <czajkowski> <-- on stand up with boss
16:31:54 <jono> czajkowski, np
16:32:05 <jono> so I think we can do a better job helping to support our LoCo Teams to do great work
16:32:13 <jono> and when I say "we", I mean my team
16:32:23 <jono> but I think we need to work with our wider community to help do this
16:32:40 <jono> one concern I have is communication
16:32:50 <jono> I don't really see much communication on loco-contacts
16:33:02 <jono> and that list was primarily intended for support and teams helping each other
16:33:10 <jono> I wanted to suggest we direct people to Ask Ubuntu
16:33:18 <jono> jcastro_, are LoCos using Ask Ubuntu much?
16:33:30 <dholbach> What kind of communication would we like to see? Inter-team discussions? Announcements? Conference reports?
16:33:48 <rrnwexec> i think they are using it, but not in the context of LoCo related (organizing events, projects, etc) work
16:34:08 <jono> rrnwexec, right
16:34:15 <jono> it seems there are a few types of comms:
16:34:23 <jono> 1. general chatter about the community
16:34:35 <jono> 2. asking questions about how to do things
16:34:42 <jono> 3. presenting things the team has done
16:34:56 <jono> my inclination is that for 1. we have IRC and lists
16:35:04 <jono> for 2. we recommend people use Ask Ubuntu with a tag
16:35:18 <jono> and 3. we discuss the best way to raise the profile of work that people are doing
16:35:29 <jcastro_> jono: there's a tag, but not often
16:35:36 <jono> jcastro_, ok gotcha
16:35:42 <dholbach> AskUbuntu could be great, as general tips for making an event rock won't change much over time
16:35:49 <jono> dholbach, exactly
16:35:58 <jono> and Ask Ubuntu has a good following of users and is indexed on the web
16:36:04 <cprofitt> jono: in regards to ask ubuntu -- we had tried to build in some ability for LoCos to detect people using aksubuntu in their area, but I am not sure if that has been completed
16:36:24 <cprofitt> the attempts I worked on with jcastro_ did not work out as planned -- using the query engine
16:36:28 <jcastro_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/locoteams
16:36:46 <jono> cprofitt, I mean more that people ask general questions and our general community responds on there
16:36:49 <jcastro_> there's good content there already
16:36:54 <jcastro_> it's just not as used as it could be
16:37:00 <jono> so this seems a simple thing we can try out
16:37:05 <jcastro_> though, remember AU is english only, LoCos aren't
16:37:09 <rrnwexec> that would be outstanding cprofitt. we've experimented with that here (vancouver) on Launchpad Answers by inserting the word Vancouver in our questions
16:37:20 <jono> jcastro_, this is true, but our current resources and docs are english too
16:37:25 * jcastro_ nods
16:37:26 <rrnwexec> and as a result that has built up a small, local tech support team
16:37:29 <jcastro_> I was just pointing it out
16:37:31 <jono> yup
16:37:42 <cprofitt> jono: I understand -- I think the loco teams do point people  there, but if there was a way for me to see the people that identified themselves as being in my LoCo area it would help me plan events that aligned with the issues users were having
16:37:59 <jono> cprofitt, ahhh I see
16:38:02 <jono> cprofitt, that would be cool
16:38:11 <skellat> Are we writing off the LoCo forums, then?
16:38:21 <jono> jcastro_, you know that thing you showed me where AU questions are embedded in a site....
16:38:27 <jono> I wonder if we could do that on loco.ubuntu.com
16:38:34 <jono> skellat, not writing off anything
16:38:38 <cprofitt> jono: we got close the query engine, but had some false data results....
16:38:42 <jcastro_> yea, the stacktack, it's just JS
16:38:44 <jono> skellat, just identifying the most likely avenue of support
16:38:57 <cprofitt> I think the goal was to add the latest questions to loco.ubuntu.com if we got it working well.
16:39:00 <skellat> Okay jono
16:39:28 <jono> skellat, the challenge here I think is that we point people to some resources with not many folks to answer questions
16:39:34 <jono> e.g. loco-contacts doesn't get much traffic
16:39:45 <jono> whereas Ask Ubuntu is generally really good for getting responses
16:39:53 <rrnwexec> and mailing lists aren't indexed, etc.
16:39:55 <jono> and the responses are editing and almost become articles
16:40:21 <jono> so I have another question for input on
16:40:28 <jono> the real challenge in my list above I think is (3)
16:40:39 <jono> how do we raise the visability of great work going on the community/
16:40:40 <jono> ?
16:40:50 <cprofitt> I agree jono
16:40:54 <jono> now, we did add a feature to loco.ubuntu.com to show blog posts
16:41:06 <jono> but I am wondering if it would make more sense to simply point people to reddit
16:41:21 <rrnwexec> on (3), a weekly showcase would help. and opening up the loco.ubuntu.com more widely would too
16:41:26 <jono> ideally we want some kind of planet ubuntu type site for great loco work
16:41:46 <skellat> A big part of raising visibility is going people to open up and tell what they've been doing.  We've been having trouble with that in Ohio where folks have been hiding their lights, so to say.
16:41:48 <rrnwexec> right now the loco. site is fairly closed, no?
16:42:03 <czajkowski> No"
16:42:11 <cprofitt> rrnwexec: I would not call it closed
16:42:20 <czajkowski> it's nto closed at all
16:42:30 <rrnwexec> who can post to it?
16:42:38 <jono> it is not closed in that people can add feeds, but you need to have your feed added
16:42:44 <jono> it is not open in the same way reddit is
16:42:47 <czajkowski> yes but adding a feed takes all of 2 seconds
16:42:53 <jono> skellat, totally agree
16:42:59 <cprofitt> I think there is pretty good ability to add certain types of content to the loco page, the issue is more a lack of developers to create 'new' features... I am happy with what I am able to do on the loco page
16:43:08 <jono> czajkowski, right, but I am wondering why we don't just point people at /r/Ubuntu
16:43:14 <cprofitt> and have no issues opening the page up to additoinal members of mine
16:43:16 <jono> and then we get the general Ubuntu crowd viewing the posts too
16:43:20 <jono> just an idea
16:43:32 <czajkowski> not everyone reads reddit
16:43:38 <czajkowski> me I rarely do, others do
16:43:44 * cprofitt nods in agreement with czajkowski
16:43:46 <jono> czajkowski, not every reads l.u.c :-)
16:43:50 <dholbach> could loco.u.c get a "feed" from reddit?
16:43:53 <jono> I would argue that more people read reddit
16:44:01 <jono> but I have no evidence on that
16:44:03 <skellat> jono, east of the Mississippi Reddit gets fairly inaccessible whenever bad weather strikes Amazon's data centers in Virginia.  For me it is down more often than up.
16:44:06 <czajkowski> maybe but also find a lot of reddit is jsut spam
16:44:13 <jono> czajkowski, really?
16:44:18 <jono> that hasn't been my experience
16:44:20 <czajkowski> yeah
16:44:20 <rrnwexec> i find the dialtone on Reddit to be quite negative
16:44:23 <jono> and if there is spam it gets downvoted
16:44:25 <dholbach> wherever we want good content to live we will need a way of flagging something as "awesome loco content", right?
16:44:26 <cprofitt> I almost never read reddit
16:44:33 <jono> there are definitely some muppets on reddit, rrnwexec :-)
16:44:37 <czajkowski> I've also had this disussion with others via twitter and seemingly it depends on the community, but from my experience it's a bit crap
16:44:43 <rrnwexec> we call it "Ribbit" locally ;)
16:44:45 <czajkowski> anyways back to work
16:45:18 <jono> the benefit of loco.ubuntu.com is that it is branded
16:45:21 <balloons> is everyone agreed that something pre-existing should be embraced as opposed to making another feed?
16:45:21 <rrnwexec> i think we're on the right track with loco.ubuntu.com, but feel it needs more life and zing.
16:45:31 <balloons> or perhaps not
16:45:32 <jono> the disadvantage is that there is no discussion there
16:45:47 <rrnwexec> can we insert a discussion widget?
16:45:49 <skellat> jono: What sort of discussion would you like, though?
16:46:01 <czajkowski> would it not end up in the same circular disussion
16:46:06 <jono> skellat, I think it would be awesome if posts on l.u.c had a small disqus widget so our community can discuss the post
16:46:43 <rrnwexec> +1
16:47:05 <jono> so maybe we have another push on l.u.c and see what we can do
16:47:05 <czajkowski> who will moderate the discussion
16:47:06 <snap-l> (I'd prefer more activity on l.u.c personally)
16:47:23 <jono> czajkowski, usually people self moderate with the ratings
16:47:32 <jono> like any other disqus site
16:47:38 <cprofitt> I would like to see traffice increased to l.u.c as well... that way events become more visible
16:47:47 <jono> so I think we should push l.u.c and see what we can do there
16:47:56 <rrnwexec> i think moderation is a secondary concern. if the content shows up and people get excited, the moderators will step-forward to help
16:47:59 <jono> add a disqus widget to each post and encourage more feeds on there
16:48:02 <jono> rrnwexec, agreed
16:48:14 <jono> I will see if I can rope mhall119 into adding the widget
16:48:18 <jono> I will bribe him with BBQ
16:48:19 <cprofitt> is there a way to add feeds to each loco team or just the main site?
16:48:57 <jono> cprofitt, sure, if a loco has a news feed
16:49:04 <jono> czajkowski, how do feeds get added?
16:49:08 <jono> and who can add them? the LC?
16:49:25 <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds
16:49:50 <cprofitt> I guess what I would like to see, for a team, is the ability to add feeds that just show up on the NY team site.
16:49:59 <jono> ok, so the LC
16:50:00 <jono> cool
16:50:13 <cprofitt> perhaps allowing some folks that are part of the team to have their blogs visible on the team page
16:50:19 <jono> cprofitt, that seems pretty simple
16:50:25 <jono> as the feed in the system is associated with a team
16:50:37 <jono> see how the posts on l.u.c show the team associated
16:50:44 <dholbach> it'd be great if we could flag certain posts as being interesting
16:50:46 <jono> it should be simple to show those feeds on the team page
16:50:50 <jono> dholbach, totally
16:50:52 <dholbach> or maybe blogs with a certain tag
16:50:54 <bkerensa> we could also add google+ feeds to l.u.c the code is actually there its just nobody has had time to review it https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-team-portal/+bug/996140
16:50:54 <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 996140 in LoCo Team Portal "Google+ Post Aggregation via Javascript" [Undecided,In progress]
16:50:58 <jono> dholbach, maybe a "thankyou" button
16:50:58 <dholbach> sorry, blog posts with a certain tag
16:51:21 <dholbach> so we don't get "everything X writes about" but just "cool LoCo stuff X blogs about"
16:51:30 <jono> I agree with you folks, I think l.u.c is the place to do this
16:51:32 <cprofitt> dholbach +1
16:51:38 <jono> dholbach, we already do that
16:51:48 <jono> dholbach, we ask folks to set up feeds for a tag for just loco posts
16:51:49 <cprofitt> I think of two members I have that are not Ubuntu members, but they blog
16:52:02 <dholbach> ah ok
16:52:07 <cprofitt> it would be cool to have people going to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny to see their stuff
16:52:09 <jono> cprofitt, you don't have to be an ubuntu member on l.u.c
16:52:19 <dholbach> ignore me then :)
16:52:19 <jono> cprofitt, that should be simple to do
16:52:27 <cprofitt> jono: I know... but not sure people in another team would want to see their stuff
16:52:30 <jono> ok, so it sounds like the following we need to do:
16:52:38 <jono> * add disqus comments on posts
16:52:42 <jono> * grow the number of feeds
16:52:52 <jono> * show team posts on the team page
16:53:13 <jono> you folks mind if I raise another topic?
16:53:34 <rrnwexec> as an aside: i'm still disappointed in this response to Vancouver's feed: "Denied (added indirectly via ubuntu-ca - sorry!) (prt)" Can someone fix that? It's hard to be excited when shut down ;)
16:53:35 <snap-l> (is there a way to integrate with Picasa as well outside of an individual address on l.u.c)
16:53:53 <jono> rrnwexec, what was that?
16:54:04 <dholbach> maybe we should file bugs on loco.u.c after this meeting
16:54:06 <rrnwexec> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds <-- just found it here
16:54:31 <jono> does that mean the content appears as part of the feed from ubuntu-ca?
16:54:54 <rrnwexec> there is no content coming out of there as far as i know
16:55:18 <jono> rrnwexec, if the content is duplicated I agree we shouldnt have two feeds, but if not, then it should be fine to add that feed IMHO
16:55:21 <rrnwexec> we can resolve offline though. let's keep the meeting moving :)
16:55:24 <jono> ok cool
16:55:29 <jono> so a quick topic:
16:55:42 <jono> a little while back I suggested the idea of an advocacy development kit
16:55:44 <jono> which is:
16:56:03 <jono> * a downloadable zip file including all the logos, posters, documentation and advice you need to perform advocacy
16:56:16 <jono> * this could be shared with people easily
16:56:24 <jono> * it can be available in your own language
16:56:39 <jono> I think we need another meeting to discuss this more, but is anyone interested in helping out with it?
16:56:53 <jono> it would basically involve writing documentation and assembling great content
16:57:02 <jono> I figured we will put together a first cut and see if it works
16:57:49 <bkerensa> Would this be like an official kit with content different from that on spreadubuntu?
16:57:56 <dholbach> you should be able to branch lp:ubuntu-adk and just add new content by just proposing a branch - it's also instantly translatable in LP
16:58:06 <cprofitt> kind of like the 'media kits' games have for fans?
16:58:21 <jono> bkerensa, the idea is that it will take the very best bits from spreadubuntu...a few posters, a few banners etc
16:58:33 <jono> kind of how Ubuntu ships a default text editor but you can get more in the USC
16:58:42 <jono> the ADK would ship a few posters and point to SU for more
16:58:56 <jono> but the idea is that it makes it really simple for someone to get started
16:59:08 <jono> and provides a fun project we as a LoCo community can contribute to
16:59:15 <bkerensa> nice
16:59:23 <jono> :-)
16:59:31 <jono> dholbach, put together a first cut
16:59:39 <jono> I will put up a blog entry about the idea today
16:59:44 <jono> I think it could be pretty awesome
16:59:48 <jono> and other projects could use it too
16:59:56 <bkerensa> so to save some work on the documentation part it might be an idea to take some of the Ubuntu Leadership Documentation covering events and use that to help
17:00:02 <jono> bkerensa, oh totally
17:00:08 <jono> we would port most of the docs to the ADK
17:00:14 <dholbach> bkerensa, yes and some docs from the wiki.u.c/LoCo name space
17:00:20 <bkerensa> yeah
17:00:24 <jono> which then gets us the benefit that people can translate them and have their own language ADK if they want
17:00:32 <dholbach> yes yes yes! :)
17:00:33 <bkerensa> what format would documentation be in? PDF or Text Files?
17:00:46 <bkerensa> I guess thats a little to technical at this point :)
17:00:46 <jono> the basic idea is that the adk branch in LP is where the source content is and when you run 'make' it spits out ADKs for each languagte
17:00:57 <bkerensa> sounds like a great idea
17:01:01 <dholbach> we can generate all of them, but HTML might be best in the beginning
17:01:03 <jono> bkerensa, it is in restructured text as source but it spits out HTML and could spit out a PDF
17:01:17 <jono> I like the idea that it generates both HTML for online viewing and a PDF for an e-book reader
17:01:19 <bkerensa> Ubuntu California has something like an ADK and Oregon kind of copied them to some degree
17:01:23 <bkerensa> we just dont have doc
17:01:27 <jono> bkerensa, oh sweet
17:01:34 <jono> bkerensa, so maybe we could collaborate around this centrally
17:01:43 <jono> sorry, I have to run to a meeting
17:01:54 <jono> I will schedule another specific ADK meeting later this week
17:01:59 <jono> and then we can delve into it more
17:02:02 <jono> #endmeeting