#title #ubuntu-au: Ubuntu-AU Nov 2011 Team Meeting Meeting started by jaddi27 at 10:01:32 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2011/ubuntu-au.2011-11-13-10.01.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/242/detail/ (sagaci, 10:04:04) *Brisbane InstallFest - Jared Norris (head_victim) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest (head_victim, 10:04:56) *Social Networking Update - Joel Addison (jaddi27) ''LINK:'' https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114264208670057246365/ (jaddi27, 10:18:35) ''LINK:'' http://www.facebook.com/ubuntuau (jaddi27, 10:18:46) ''LINK:'' http://www.facebook.com/groups/4323588812/ (jaddi27, 10:22:27) *Increasing #ubuntu-au users - IKT ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-screencasts (tomasparks, 10:36:05) ''IDEA:'' offer some kind of VOIP support available via forums (sticky thread in -au forum?) (sagaci, 10:39:00) ''ACTION:'' head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel (head_victim, 10:42:43) ''ACTION:'' ikt to create IRC screencast (head_victim, 10:49:03) ''ACTION:'' sagaci to start topic on the mailing list regarding voip (jaddi27, 10:54:47) *en_AU ISO localisation effort - Joel Pickett (sagaci) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-au-iso-l10n (sagaci, 10:55:08) ''LINK:'' http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=68306 (ikt, 11:11:37) Meeting ended at 11:17:21 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel * ikt to create IRC screencast * sagaci to start topic on the mailing list regarding voip == Action items, by person == * head_victim ** head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel * ikt ** ikt to create IRC screencast * sagaci ** head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel ** sagaci to start topic on the mailing list regarding voip == People present (lines said) == * jaddi27 (61) * sagaci (61) * head_victim (57) * ikt (53) * fabricator4 (18) * tomasparks (15) * meetingology (7) * mrshr3d (3) * Svo1 (3) * vadi2 (2) * Red_ (1) * grizzlysmit (1) == Full Log == 10:01:32 #startmeeting Ubuntu-AU Nov 2011 Team Meeting 10:01:33 Meeting started Sun Nov 13 10:01:32 2011 UTC. The chair is jaddi27. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 10:01:33 10:01:33 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 10:01:47 #chair sagaci head_victim 10:01:47 Current chairs: head_victim jaddi27 sagaci 10:01:55 Evening all 10:01:57 Evening all 10:02:05 Hello 10:02:06 Hah, great minds think alike 10:02:08 Welcome everybody to the November 2011 IRC Team Meeting 10:02:09 hi! 10:02:10 :-) 10:02:10 good evening 10:02:13 evening 10:02:24 Please say hello, if you haven't already done so, to register your attendance 10:02:34 hello 10:02:49 (If you want your attendance noted) :) 10:03:15 hi 10:03:23 hi 10:03:35 Bit crowded in here... 10:03:44 Good to see a few extra faces in here tonight 10:03:48 Always a good sign 10:03:55 Well, on to the first topic of tonight 10:04:02 agenda: 10:04:04 http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/242/detail/ 10:04:27 oops, thanks sagaci. 10:04:51 #topic Brisbane InstallFest - Jared Norris (head_victim) 10:04:56 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Projects/LocalMeetings/BrisbaneInstallfest 10:05:07 and I'm late :x 10:05:10 I've done a little work to the wiki page and just wanted to put it out there for others to collaborate with 10:05:20 ikt: someone has to be 10:05:41 :D 10:05:51 ikt: better 2 minutes late than 5 hours early 10:06:18 Or 20 hours late as my google calendar shows 10:06:43 So back on topic, basically our main needs for the Brisbane installation festival is to get volunteers and get marketing material made up 10:06:55 head_victim: how are you going to advertise this, apart from ML and social media... ie. to attract new linux/ubuntu users 10:07:29 I just had a thought - I work for a PR company. I might be able to ask my colleagues for low-cost marketing avenues. 10:07:29 sagaci: the goal is to get a floyer done up to post on other forums, uni noticeboards, I'm going to approach the local radio station and try and work out something with some schools if I can. 10:07:49 ah yep 10:08:40 head_victim, I can put something out to the UQ Computing Society members 10:08:57 jaddi27: sweet 10:09:09 I've tried going through HUMBUG previously and not had any feedback or attendees at all 10:09:19 wb sagaci 10:09:35 sagaci, finally decided on a computer? 10:09:57 Or a yo-yo :-D 10:10:34 Super+ 10:10:53 Super+Windowskey just let me fly through my windows but killed chatzilla 10:10:54 radio stations sound like a good idea 10:11:22 sagaci: I have heard an IT segment before so want to contact them about some airtime or at least a quick plug 10:12:05 Basically, it's time to start doing things is all I wanted to say. That and the wiki page needs some volunteering registration :) 10:12:34 If anyone is good with flyers we could really do with that to help promote the event. Most of the team's materials are on the wiki 10:12:41 head_victim, http://www2b.abc.net.au/EventCentral/View/Search.aspx?p=11&ci=0&pm=2&StateID=4&RegionID=27 10:12:49 worthy for l.u.c event link and u.org blog post.. yeah? 10:12:54 Svo1: if you get any good feedback please let us know about the low cost marketing 10:13:05 sagaci: already on loco.u.c ;) 10:13:06 Sure. I'll find out early this week. 10:13:28 sagaci: yeah but I actually wanted them to talk about it on the program 10:14:08 encourage proper pronunciation 10:14:44 sagaci: is there "proper" pronunciation? 10:15:03 head_victim, that might have been meant for me. That was just something that I have heard Spencer Howson/Kelly Higgens-Divine mention a few times, so that might be something to do in addition to the radio talk 10:15:13 well oo boon too is better than oo ban tue 10:15:39 or ah-bun-too 10:16:22 Ok, unless anyone else ahs anything to add it might be time for next topic? 10:17:09 Ok. Next topic coming up 10:17:26 #topic Social Networking Update - Joel Addison (jaddi27) 10:18:06 I just wanted to let everyone know that since the last meeting, I have set up a Facebook page and a Google+ page 10:18:35 https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114264208670057246365/ 10:18:46 http://www.facebook.com/ubuntuau 10:18:47 ah nice 10:19:18 At the moment it is not possible to share admin of a google+ page, so I am the only one that can access it. 10:19:50 If anyone has anything that they would like added to it, or the Facebook page, let me know and I will put it up 10:20:29 Maybe put some info on the Installfest? 10:20:38 I plan on mirroring the ubuntuau twitter/identi.ca feeds on both Facebook and Google+, so as many people as possible can access it 10:20:50 An the topic of social media, if anyone has content for identica/twitter (same posts) please let me know 10:21:20 fabricator4, Yes, I am happy to do that. If someone would like to write up something I can put it on (head_victim might have a better description than I do) 10:22:12 The facebook group also still exists, so general discussion can still occur, as well as easy sharing of events to people on Facebook 10:22:21 Just trying to get a few things in place (like flyers and more of an idea what we plan to do on the day) before posting too far and wide 10:22:27 http://www.facebook.com/groups/4323588812/ 10:22:37 jaddi27: so is the page and the group separate? 10:22:41 head_victim, That is fine 10:22:52 Yes, the group and page are separate 10:23:20 The page will work in a similar manner to twitter/google+, while the group is better for discussions 10:24:12 Ah ok, I have no idea how FB works so I'll trust that it's all good :) 10:25:01 Any further comments/questions regarding social networking? 10:25:40 Ok. Moving on to the next topic 10:26:04 #topic Increasing #ubuntu-au users - IKT 10:26:13 o hai 10:26:23 I've been talking to a few people on the ubuntu forums 10:26:34 irc still seems to be quite difficult to get into 10:26:56 at the moment I'm kind of stumped on how we can make it even easier 10:27:03 I've tried to make sure everytime we post something about IRC that I post a webchat link as well to make that easier. Does that help? 10:27:36 Not sure tbh, the issues have mainly be to get into the channel 10:27:38 just to chat 10:27:52 I think that making a good video tutorial on how to set it up and use IRC would be good 10:28:00 yes definitely 10:28:11 Well anyone running ubuntu can go to the wiki irc page and click and link and it just works 10:28:11 I just keep forgetting to join the IRC 10:28:15 I don't know how easier we can make it 10:28:44 besides the link, is there any way to further incentise(sp) being in #ubuntu-au? 10:29:18 the main reason being that activity breeds activity 10:29:21 Last time we spoke on the topic of irc merging this and the OT channel came up. It was fairly strong support to keep them separate, should we revisit this idea? 10:29:23 I think for some people it could be that it looks 'old' and that is confusing, compared to say Skype while looks more modern 10:29:51 true 10:30:02 should the meeting be voiped? 10:30:08 head_victim: yeah I'm interested is there any way to get activity stats on the channels? 10:30:24 ikt: download the logs 10:30:29 head_victim, I still like having the separate channels. Based on activity, most people go to this one anyway, so I don't think people are getting confused 10:30:30 tomasparks: the problem is using an open service that can cater to group calls 20 or so people at once 10:30:51 sagaci, there are no logs for #ubuntu-au-chat 10:30:58 I thought a mumble or ventrilo type service might be useful but that's far more complicated than irc to get into 10:31:02 sorry, just meant for #ubuntu-au 10:31:36 Welcome bejames. The meeting is currently on if you would like to join in 10:31:59 I think voip might be a bit hard for meetings, as we can have a lot of people sometimes 10:32:02 good point head_victim 10:32:06 sagaci: I was thinking more like this: http://www.projectasgard.com/mircstats/overclockers-ytd.html 10:32:21 Firefox also has some IRC addons. Promoting their use on wiki pages might make things more easy on people 10:33:19 ikt: the ubuntu-uk team have something similar 10:33:55 What if some people made themselves available through some sort of voip service to walk people through getting onto IRC (and other issues) 10:34:33 Not sure about the voip service but I've got a screencast on my list of thigns to do 10:35:02 there is a ubuntu screencasting group 10:35:34 We did discuss setting up a live streaming account for Ubuntu-AU 10:35:44 head_victim, did you set up an account in the end? 10:35:49 jaddi27: the accoutns exist on ustream and youtube 10:35:52 ") 10:36:05 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-screencasts 10:36:10 Anyone with content to add just needs to let me know so I can add them to the group or upload it on their behalf 10:36:45 That is good. ikt, tomasparks - the ustream account could be used to do a screencast of irc, and then it could be uploaded to youtube for future reference 10:37:01 yeah 10:37:13 head_victim: *cough* http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL082F06C83AEAD87A 10:37:42 it been done http://blip.tv/ubuntu-screencasts/how-to-connect-to-irc-4377896 10:38:42 needs to be australianised :P 10:39:00 #idea offer some kind of VOIP support available via forums (sticky thread in -au forum?) 10:39:26 sounds good 10:39:58 sagaci: nice work, is that AU specific? 10:40:02 maybe an hour every month or 2 weeks 10:40:08 as a helpdesk kinda thing 10:40:11 head_victim: nope 10:40:38 sagaci: you created? 10:40:52 yep, sagaci username wasn't available 10:41:14 Cool, well with your permission I'll work out how to put it in the team's channel 10:41:18 all done on ubuntu 11.10 since the recordmydesktop graphics glitch was fixed in oneiric 10:42:18 I want to do a beginner's fixing bugs but haven't found a small enough bug in a small enough package to reproduce it, unfortunately 10:42:26 Nice work 10:42:36 sagaci, Good work 10:42:43 #action head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel 10:42:43 * meetingology head_victim to upload sagaci 's screencasts to the team channel 10:42:46 not authoritative on the subject, moreso wanted to prove to myself that I knew what I was talking about 10:43:06 my home dir has something like up to out-52.ogv due to all the outtakes 10:44:02 it's no different from following the raw packaging guide, except it's in video format with a couple of tips for common errors 10:44:33 Anyone want to take ownership of a voip or irc screencast? 10:46:55 irc is pretty open 10:47:03 client-dependent 10:47:14 unless you did freenode webchat 10:47:18 I'd use default ubuntu stuff 10:47:21 although that's not a long-term solution 10:47:24 or the freenode option would also work 10:47:26 I'll try and do one with all 3 clients in it 10:47:29 empathy? 10:47:32 empathy, or xchat? 10:47:37 both 10:47:40 ok 10:47:42 and webchat 10:48:05 so all options are available 10:49:03 #action ikt to create IRC screencast 10:49:03 * meetingology ikt to create IRC screencast 10:49:19 Should we move to the last topic? 10:49:31 would someone like to do a VOIP session too? 10:49:42 advertise on forums, loco.ubuntu.com and social media 10:49:50 one-off and see how it goes 10:49:51 ? 10:50:00 sorry, using enter as punctuation 10:50:02 I'd email the ml to see what the best voip solution would be first 10:50:05 We can do Google+ hangouts also 10:50:13 using the ubuntu-au page 10:50:13 ^ 10:50:24 jaddi27: that only works for a small number of people 10:50:32 Yes, up to 9 people 10:50:32 who have g+ 10:50:48 Not saying to use it, just a suggestion 10:50:59 I think everyone who has a gmail has a g+ 10:51:01 Cool, all ideas :) 10:51:17 skype needs to be paid for to do a group chat, but google+ is free. I am not sure of other voip services 10:51:35 bigbluebutton needs flash 10:51:36 teamspeak 10:52:09 I think that bandwidth would be more of an issue than the software itself 10:52:27 Yes, bandwidth would be an issue 10:52:48 Maybe we should go to the next topic to make sure we can get finished on time 10:52:57 Sounds like a plan, move the voip option to the ml 10:53:50 who will take it to the mailing list? sagaci, ikt, tomasparks, head_victim? 10:54:30 I shall 10:54:47 Soudns good 10:54:47 #action sagaci to start topic on the mailing list regarding voip 10:54:47 * meetingology sagaci to start topic on the mailing list regarding voip 10:54:52 #topic en_AU ISO localisation effort - Joel Pickett (sagaci) 10:54:59 Last topic for tonight 10:55:08 https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-au-iso-l10n 10:55:12 good progress: 10:55:32 public pad to share your ideas and suggestions for defaults: http://pad.ubuntu.com/s5Asqt2GWm 10:56:02 sagaci: the splash screen mentioned on the ml, could that be used to localise as well? 10:56:03 bzr branch info - https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-au/+junk/iso-l10n 10:56:18 I have noticed that the ubuntu is creating more and more distro so I think I have found a usefull tool http://narcissus.angstrom-distribution.org/ 10:56:48 not sure, would have to ask pitti... there's another blueprint for that that I need to track down 10:57:24 is it worth mucking about with the boot splash... even if you dual boot - you only see it for a couple of seconds 10:57:29 tomasparks: no idea what that does but looks interesting. 10:58:12 sagaci: just wasn't sure if it's as simple as slotting in the png or not. If it's 2 seconds work for free advertising maybe. I don't know what's involved though so just posturing. 10:58:46 It's easy. 10:58:48 head_victim: it builds new distro based on the user requirements 10:58:53 tomasparks: not particularly customising ubuntu as to creating your own distro, if i'm reading it right 10:59:23 sagaci, banshee will be dropped from 12.04 according to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/11/banshee-tomboy-and-mono-dropped-from-ubuntu-12-04-cd/ 10:59:36 not 100% certain 10:59:51 speaking to some of the dev guys they said it was proposed, but not finalised 11:00:06 head_victim: all I'm saying it's not an option in the defaults_template so it'd have to be down manually 11:00:08 Maybe not. They are going to a LiveDVD for 12.04 now I hear. 11:00:20 sagaci: ah ok, that's whta I wasn't sure, if it was an option. 11:00:50 jaddi27: yeah so default banshee stations will be changed to default rhythmbox stations, if the change goes through 11:00:59 ok 11:02:19 fabricator4: extra 50MB granted so now it's 750MB ISO image 11:02:27 which is bigger than your standard cd 11:02:40 bye bye LiveCD 11:03:03 LiveUSB sounds easiest 11:03:31 or liveSD 11:03:53 New users will probably be more comfortable with a disk of some type however. 11:04:00 using a liveusb for years now 11:04:43 would be good if they sold 1gb usb drives for 30cents instead of 8gb for $5 or something 11:05:02 would distribute liveusb's instead of cd's 11:05:08 I haven't been able to by a 1Gb drive for some time now... 11:05:16 yeah 11:05:19 ikt, maybe that should be something to do for the ubuntu-au store (or whoever runs it) 11:05:36 good idea 11:05:38 Surely ebay has bulk lots of 1gb sticks 11:06:03 I still find the CD boot easyer that USB sticks 11:06:21 12.04 will be a better target for distribution anyhow 11:06:41 the best target 11:06:59 should work very heavily on getting 12.04 out to as many people as possible 11:07:05 as the next LTS is another 2 years away 11:07:25 The idea of this installfest is to work out how to do it so we can do it once a year or once a cycle 11:07:28 usb sticks would certainly add versatility - compared to distros sent out on read-only CDs - reusable for new releases etc 11:07:35 re 1gb usb pricing: http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=1GB+USB vs http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=8GB+USB&spos=1 <- does not scale well at all :/ 11:07:53 $7 for 1GB, $8 for 8Gb 11:08:14 ouch 11:08:24 You can put all the 'buntus on and 8GB multiboot 11:08:33 WTF 11:08:39 maybe we should do kubuntu/ubuntu/lubuntu/mythbuntu/etc all on one usb drive 11:08:50 :-) multiboot 11:08:54 that more like it :) 11:09:04 fabricator4: trying to make a liveUSB equivalent of a LiveCD that we can just give away in the hundreds and it not costing very much 11:09:59 I know. Maybe a Chinese source. I'd be happy to make some enquiries - I know someone who knows a Chinese... 11:10:24 I might wrap up the meeting now. This discussion can continue after the meeting (will be in the IRC logs) 11:10:30 oh 11:10:33 one other thing 11:10:43 ikt, go ahead :) 11:11:01 we made the ubuntu au subforum a while ago, and I'm happy with how it's going, however pholston was made a forum mod for the section 11:11:15 and the issue being that I haven't seen him in a long time 11:11:37 http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=68306 11:11:41 Last Activity: March 9th, 2011 11:11:50 so I'm looking for someone to help out :> 11:12:18 I haven't done a whole heap on the forums, but I could try to help out 11:12:55 glad you brought it up 11:13:04 the main thing I think is forum activity and having a link in your forum signature 11:13:25 the more people see your posts, the more people see the link, the more people see the forum 11:13:31 90% of my posts are in the au subforum 11:13:43 I don't get on the forums much :P 11:14:03 I used, now I'm mostly launchpading it. 11:14:06 I just passed 1k posts :> 11:14:47 Well done. Here's a cigar :-) 11:15:02 haha thanks :D 11:15:16 fabricator4: I just passed my sesquicentenary on lp 11:15:30 sequi what? 11:15:41 150,000+ karm 11:15:44 ahhh 11:15:44 sagaci your karma is insane 11:15:57 great work :D 11:16:04 should reset en_AU translations so I can catch up to pitti 11:16:06 Too much translating. I think I'll break 1,000 this week 11:16:08 heh NO 11:16:32 sagaci: how long did it take you to get that? 11:16:41 since late march 11:16:45 iirc 11:17:12 8 months roughly 11:17:17 gg meeting 11:17:21 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)