10:10:16 #startmeeting UbuntuAu Sept 2011 10:10:16 Meeting started Sun Sep 11 10:10:16 2011 UTC. The chair is jaddi27. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 10:10:16 10:10:16 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 10:10:22 Round 2! 10:10:25 http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/192/detail/ 10:10:37 That is where the meeting info can be found 10:10:44 #topic Roll Call 10:10:53 here again 10:10:53 still here! 10:10:54 Here 10:11:10 hi 10:11:13 good to hear 10:11:48 #topic Release Party Updates 10:12:12 Our first main topic tonight - upcoming release parties for Oneiric 10:13:23 strange name 10:13:31 Who would like to start off? 10:13:36 Yep well I"ll start with Brisbane 10:13:51 I'm thinking we do a social event on the sat or sun and then do the installfest a month or so later 10:14:00 oneiric: Of or relating to dreams or dreaming 10:14:16 Looking into it the installfest will be at least half a day in itself 10:14:32 jaddi27: ok 10:15:01 Sounds OK. Any ideas for the venue for the social? 10:15:08 I've set an event for Sydney, holding it about a week prior to the Thursday it's released. It's not an installfest or anything quite technical, just a celebration over the oneiric cycle in what we've done and to enjoy the afternoon. Hoping to get a few from around the Sydney suburbs 10:15:21 Well people seemed to like the breakky creak hotel so was going to default to there unless someothing better came up 10:15:57 That seems fine. What the parking like? (pretty bad as I remember...) 10:16:08 Ah ok I hadn't been there before 10:16:20 sagaci: thanks. i'll try to visit if time permits. 10:16:37 s/visit/join/ 10:16:53 Are we talking Sat or Sun here? 10:16:56 ha ha jaddi27 disconects again 10:17:09 that time was not xchat 10:17:15 not working well 10:17:17 jargonfactory, yeah pop in for a while if you can. I'll be around for a few hours so whoever turns up can have afternoon tea/coffee, etc 10:17:20 fabricator4: open to suggestion 10:17:29 sagaci: sounds good. 10:17:57 Saturday lunch would suit. I'll probably be working in Virginia until 11:30, so just a hop down the road. 10:18:33 #chair sagaci head_victim jaddi27 10:18:33 Current chairs: head_victim jaddi27 sagaci 10:18:44 Hah that's one way around it :) 10:18:48 just in case I disconnect again 10:19:07 :) 10:19:12 Ok. Are there any more discussions regarding the Oneiric release parties? 10:19:14 fabricator4: cool I'll shoot something to the list, please respond and we'll organise it 10:19:21 OK, will do 10:19:44 I'll pass an email to the mailing list too about the Sydney release party 10:20:19 I've seen a couple of questinos about Melbourne. Anyone here from down there? 10:20:22 #action head_victim to email list about Brisbane release party 10:20:22 * meetingology head_victim to email list about Brisbane release party 10:20:33 head_victim: I'm in MEL 10:20:38 #action sagaci to email list about Sydney release party 10:20:38 * meetingology sagaci to email list about Sydney release party 10:20:42 gorilla: intersted in running a release party? 10:20:55 Benny was asking, but he's not here tonight. 10:21:04 There was also a question on FaceBook 10:21:25 I could just nominate a venue.. I'm a little pressed for time atm.. change of job and the like. 10:21:41 gorilla: no worries. Even just getting some talk on the list about it would help 10:22:31 okay.. I'll suggest it again on the list. 10:22:45 #idea gorilla to email list about Melbourne release party 10:23:26 Ready to move on to the next topic? 10:23:47 No other cities here? 10:24:44 Eastern seaboard it is :) 10:25:42 #topic Translations Drive 10:25:53 sagaci can lead this off, I think 10:26:16 21.42% of oneiric is left to translate now 10:26:31 sorry, 29.42% 10:26:39 I for one am thoroughly impressed with how much has been accomplished in this area 10:27:07 I am in the process of generating a graph showing the progress of translations 10:27:14 Anyway, it's getting to the latter part of the release cycle for oneiric, over the packaging an importing and onto the bugs and translations side of development 10:27:24 it's up to around ~70% complete, so it's definitely within reach to get this done by 12.04 LTS 10:27:55 if you have any time at all to donate towards translating into en_AU, please have a look into translating even some of the smaller packages - it does help a lot 10:28:12 https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+lang/en_AU/+index 10:28:13 Yeah, 12.04 is a realistic goal. If you have an afternoon spare here and there just post to the list saying oyu'll be around if people want to join the translation effort. Have minijams 10:28:49 we need to have most of the work done by december/january due to "proof-reading" and triaging older strings that need to be changed - think wastebin/trash 10:28:52 The translation jam last weekend went well, with at least 3000 strings being translated 10:30:23 I've also set up an question on answers.launchpad to add a mailing list for the group. I've tried to email Isopogon in ref: to this but haven't had a response.. may be inactive. It would be good to join both Ubuntu/Launchpad teams to have a unified effort on translations and to update group policy and publish team blueprints 10:30:42 link incoming.. 10:31:02 #link https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/170787 10:32:05 https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/170787 10:32:17 not sure if that's registered but anyway... 10:32:39 Yeah it's a bit odd, in other channels it's been a bit more chatty 10:32:44 I think it has registered, but the new system does not show everything that has happened like the old system 10:33:14 just to add 10:34:26 ubuntu is pretty much done, kubuntu and some command-line, packaging utilities are to be completed, so if you run vanilla ubuntu 11.10, it should be customised to honour the English language at its maximised potential 10:35:11 that's the end of my dialogue 10:35:16 You will notice a few inconsistencies still, as mentioned previously, such as Trash, Rubbish Bin, etc 10:35:59 I would also like to say thanks to sagaci for doing so much work on this over the past few months 10:36:44 #topic Team Approval Update 10:36:53 head_victim, I will pass over to you 10:37:15 Ok, I'm sorry this has taken so long. I was told the bug approval method was just as effecient as the meeting sort 10:37:42 I have been slowly making progress and I've answered a few questions from the council but no set date of when I'll know either way (and then be able to pass on to you all) 10:38:29 I'm still hassling them on a regular basis though 10:38:35 Thanks for the update. Is there anything that we can do to assist with the process? 10:39:06 #fakeidea spam #ubuntu-locos 10:39:08 Not that I can think of really 10:39:41 I'd like to see people raise the ideas of sei regular social gatherings at the release parties. Ubuntu Hours are always something I've tried to start around here. 10:39:48 semi* 10:40:25 I can do one once every three months in Sydney, awaiting demand 10:40:51 2 releases, a winter one and in december, "sprints", if you like 10:41:23 I'll working on promotion so I can get into a 9-5 and be able to organise a brisbane one 10:41:48 head_victim, should be putting your release party on loco.u.c, even if it isn't concrete yet 10:42:15 Yep, only a month away 10:45:00 Are there any more topics for tonight's meeting? 10:45:42 Umm, I was going to defer to the mailing list but it seems that the blueprint for localisation will be real and in full flight by 12.04 LTS 10:46:01 #topic Ubuntu Localisation 10:46:04 Is there a launchpad blueprint for that? 10:46:09 yep 10:46:11 one sec 10:46:12 What is involved with localisation 10:46:35 jaddi27, translations, default wallpaper, bookmarks, documentation, etc 10:46:46 Ok. Thought it might be that 10:47:11 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-cd-localization 10:47:30 it's pretty primitive at the moment but it should have more options in the next release 10:48:00 personally, I think it should be added to the ubiquity installer but it depends on the amount of changes and various other things 10:48:17 Nice, should definitely take that to the list. We can organise to get a background pack together for the artistic types to contribute to. 10:48:44 but yet you'll still be able to install/download "regular" ubuntu without everything else added on, if you wish 10:50:25 we talked about this briefly last meeting but it's full effect won't be felt/realised until we customise and build/use the isos to see how local ubuntu can get 10:50:28 that is all 10:50:36 I think we should set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version 10:50:37 its* 10:50:53 great, action please! 10:51:10 second it :) 10:51:44 #action ubuntu-au to set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version 10:51:44 * meetingology ubuntu-au to set up a wiki page with customisation thoughts for the local version 10:51:57 I think there was a wiki page set up a long time ago for localisation hooked into the translation team 10:52:00 I'll try and dig it up later 10:52:06 yep, saw that 10:52:08 That would be good 10:52:59 head_victim, What is the latest with the new UbuntuAu Mission Statement 10:53:41 Yes, we had a brief discussion on the list. 10:53:44 #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MissionStatement 10:54:01 If you look right down the bottom, that's pretty much where I'm happy, what do other people think? 10:54:10 "Version 3" 10:54:38 I think it looks good. The only thing I was wondering about was the word 'therefore' in the second sentence 10:56:13 Cheer,s I'm hoping we're approaching the final iteration of it soon. 10:56:34 It seems to have gone from the the specific, back in the direction of the esoteric? 10:56:37 catching up to Chrome versioning 10:57:24 _Sounds_ good though. :-) 10:57:33 fabricator4: I checked the original and it didn't seem to vary too much, just spread out more 10:58:21 head_victim, like Australia :) 10:58:26 Yes, fair enough. 10:58:49 I meant to shoot it to the list after some discussion with kyphi but just never made it this week yet 10:59:13 #idea head_victim to update the list with update on UbuntuAu Mission Statement 11:00:25 Well, is there anything else for tonight's meeting? 11:00:52 I think we have got through a fair bit considering the number of agenda items 11:01:30 there was something about documenting events on youtube 11:02:20 Yes, that was brought up at the last meeting I think 11:02:54 I don't think anything has been done towards this yet, but maybe we can get something started soon. 11:03:17 Is there someone who would like to take charge of starting this off? 11:04:38 Again, I looked into it but couldn't work it out because YouTUbe appear to be shutting down the Groups section 11:04:43 i'm welling to bouce some ideas of somebody else 11:05:43 there are other video hosters 11:06:06 Ok. tom_a_sparks, would you like to coordinate this? I am also happy to help out 11:06:09 Yeah but from what the discussion went none are as public and easy to find 11:07:03 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_hosting_services 11:07:32 I know some other Ubuntu folk use some for streaming I'll ask around 11:09:01 I know ubuntu-screencasting use blip.tv 11:09:25 Quite likely that's what I'm thinking of 11:09:49 ustream was another 11:10:10 justin.tv, et 11:10:13 etc* 11:11:14 or do we host the videos locally 11:11:49 I think instead of a youtube group, an account could be set up for UbuntuAu that will 'own' the videos for the group 11:12:15 head_victim being the owner 11:12:22 Ok, I can set it up from the mailing list owner email like the identica one is 11:12:36 So that way anyone with moderation rights on the mailing list can action it 11:12:47 So it's still "owned" by the team 11:13:00 That would be a good way, I think 11:13:42 #info might be an idea to include multiple chairs for future disconnects/blackouts/etc 11:14:12 #action head_victim to set up an UbuntuAu youtube account for sharing videos useful to other Ubuntu users 11:14:12 * meetingology head_victim to set up an UbuntuAu youtube account for sharing videos useful to other Ubuntu users 11:14:18 have an allocated chair and one/two backups 11:14:40 sagaci, Yes, I will do that from now on. I am not sure how I managed to have 2 failures in one night 11:14:50 should defer it to the mailing list - re: CC licensed material only? 11:15:15 sagaci: that sounds fair, that's what the wiki is 11:15:18 Yes, that sounds like a good plan. Should limit the issues of copyright that way 11:15:24 Makes it easier to remember if it's all the same 11:15:46 Does youtube do streaming though? 11:16:09 I know it does but I'm not so sure for individuals 11:16:19 you mean lve video feeds? 11:16:24 slug was streamed a month or two ago 11:16:43 tom_a_sparks: yeah, some people wanted that ability to remotely participate in events 11:17:07 you would be looking at a icecast server 11:19:24 I've heard ustream.tv can do it 11:19:50 Hmm, leaning towards using that for both then if it can do it 11:20:02 justin.tv can also do live streaming 11:21:18 It looks like ustream.tv is not free 11:21:54 depends what you're doing it for and if you only want audio or video too 11:22:12 video would be a pain, due to bandwidth pretty much anywhere in Aus 11:22:31 Yes, that is trus 11:22:34 *true 11:23:05 So maybe do youtube for now, and then investigate a live streaming service as well for the one off events we want to hold? 11:23:13 Sounds good 11:24:07 #idea investigate live streaming services for future group events 11:24:53 end of meeting? 11:25:00 As it is nearly 9:30pm, I think I will close 11:25:04 Yeah it's starting to get that way 11:25:07 #endmeeting