18:40 <phillw> #startmeeting
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18:41 <phillw> please review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
18:42 <phillw> can those here please say o?
18:42 <phillw> o?
18:42 <gilir> o/
18:42 <phillw> grrooo
18:42 <phillw> o/
18:43 <phillw> thanks boss, can you let us know where you think 14.04 is at?
18:44 <gilir> it's final freeze today, I fear I can't fix some of the bugs reported recently
18:44 <gilir> like the screenlocking with the ISO
18:45 <phillw> gilir: can you liase with sergio to ensure we have a good set of release notes?
18:45 <SonikkuAmerica> o/
18:45 <SonikkuAmerica> (( oops ))
18:45 <gilir> otherwise, it doesn't seem too bad, at least last Beta was quite good IMO
18:45 <gilir> phillw, sure
18:45 <ianorlin> o/
18:46 <gilir> nothing special to add from me, but I can answer questions :-)
18:47 <phillw> gilir:  he dooe have the pages ready in suspense but it will need you to do release notes
18:47 <phillw> *does*
18:47 <Meerkat> gilir, 14.04 lubuntu will have how many years of support?
18:47 <gilir> phillw, if he can send them to me, I can review them this week-end
18:47 <phillw> gilir: I'll cc you the email
18:48 <SonikkuAmerica> (( Meerkat: 3. We're in a meeting. ))
18:48 <phillw> Meerkat: it will be 3 years
18:49 <phillw> gilir: you have to make the release notes that release team use for announcement
18:50 <gilir> phillw, but sergio prepared them ? Or I need to initiate them ?
18:50 <phillw> gilir: do you have any update for bug 1256588
18:50 <ubot93> bug 1256588 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "PPC: LiveCD installation window vanishes during installation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256588
18:50 <gilir> phillw, I can't fix it, but I can workaround it by removing the slideshow by default on powerpc ISO
18:51 <gilir> it's not good, but at least it's a better than a not working ISO :-/
18:51 <phillw> gilir: from reading the bug, that does seem to be the workarond
18:52 <SonikkuAmerica> Which means that creating a slideshow that will work on the PowerPC ISO would need to be a work item, no?
18:52 <gilir> yes, but let include it directly so people doesn't have to do it
18:52 <phillw> having a working ISO without 'pretty' pictures is better than one that does not work :)
18:52 <ianorlin> also should that be on the relase notes why there is not a slideshow?
18:53 <gilir> SonikkuAmerica, no, all slideshows seem broken on powerpc
18:53 <gilir> ianorlin, yes
18:53 <SonikkuAmerica> gilir: That was more thinking ahead, I guess, we can throw it in u-series
18:55 <phillw> gilir: as ppc ever shrinks, do you wish to support desktop and alternate or, as is seen with slide show, switch to alternate?
18:56 <gilir> phillw, let's test with the workaround and see after testing if we can support it or not
18:56 <phillw> okies
18:58 * ianorlin is thinking an email to call for testing the workaround for ppc would be a good idea once in iso
18:58 <SonikkuAmerica> ianorlin: It's a *smidgen* late for trusty, but in u-series maybe, like I said before
18:58 <phillw> for the record, I've been nagging lots of good people and we now have a non-pae kernel for any teams and a lubuntu-non-pae 14.04
18:59 <gilir> good news :-)
18:59 <phillw> The ppc one is official, so that needs to be resolved through the correct routes
19:00 <phillw> gilir: between hyperair and bodhi-zazen, I have enough instructions
19:02 <phillw> gilir: I've confirmed the kernel works okay. Just awaiting the ISO to be tested on real hardware (on going)
19:02 <gilir> ok
19:05 <SonikkuAmerica> (( I have somewhat of an update from Comms, but I'm afraid the meeting will end as I'm switching between classes. Just keep going for now. ))
19:05 <phillw> gilir: one of the other things that has come up is can scrot be told to put screen shots onto the desktop instead of home
19:06 <leszek> phillw: I think that does not make sense. It would make more sense to put screenshots in the pictures folder though
19:06 <gilir> phillw, I don't know, but it's a bit late to change the default
19:06 <SonikkuAmerica> Another item to defer to u-series
19:06 <ianorlin> you can put a file option in scrot at the end of it
19:06 <phillw> gilir: leszek maybe something for 14.10 :)
19:07 <ianorlin> or ~/Pictures/screenshots
19:07 <leszek> ianorlin: yeah that would make most sense but screenshots isn't localized Pictures folder is
19:07 <ianorlin> ah
19:08 <phillw> the request I saw was that make it obvious
19:09 <phillw> so desktop seems obvious :)
19:09 <leszek> phillw: instead I would propose maybe use a notify-send which tells the user where the screenshot has been saved to
19:09 <SonikkuAmerica> (( Gotta go, will be back ))
19:09 <leszek> maybe even with a button to open up the image directly
19:10 <leszek> phillw: the other way to make it more obvious would be opening up the image viewer directly showing the screenshot
19:11 <phillw> leszek: we can look into that for 14.10... The idea of this meet is to chat about critical issues for 14.04
19:11 <gilir> Can we keep this for after 14.04 ? That doesn't seem critical for 14.04
19:11 <ianorlin> yes move to later
19:11 <leszek> phillw: theoretically on zevenos we also used a script which created some quite of flash effect. scrot; sleep 0.5; xgamma 2.0; sleep 0.5; xgamma 1.0
19:11 <phillw> gilir: can you drop slide-show from ppc ?
19:12 <leszek> ok
19:12 <gilir> phillw, I'll commit it after the meeting
19:13 <SonikkuAmerica> (( I'm back. ))
19:13 <phillw> as far as I'm aware, that is the only RED bug for lubuntu 14.04... any others can be handled with release notes... Has any one else got a critical bug that they wish to confess to?
19:13 <phillw> wb SonikkuAmerica
19:14 <leszek> not of that I am aware
19:14 <ianorlin> I don't know of any either
19:16 <phillw> gilir: it seems you have built one damn good release!!!! One bug to be addressed and one that affects scrot :)
19:17 <gilir> phillw, let's hope :-)
19:17 <leszek> yeah I have a feeling this will be a great release
19:18 <ianorlin> although there also is livecd locking issue
19:18 <phillw> gilir: If I can pull the ISO and inject a non-pae kernel into it and it work seems like a good system :)
19:18 <gilir> if not other question, I'll take a short break and go back to work tonight :-)
19:19 <SonikkuAmerica> No questions on bugs from me
19:19 <SonikkuAmerica> Oh wait
19:19 <SonikkuAmerica> Hold the phone
19:19 <phillw> ianorlin: can you explain to gilir ?
19:20 <SonikkuAmerica> Last I tested, xfce4-power-manager wasn't starting on login...
19:20 <phillw> ianorlin: the bug number would help
19:20 <ianorlin> bug 1281323
19:20 <ubot93> bug 1281323 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu/Xubuntu Live session locks when away from keyboard" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1281323
19:21 <ianorlin> he siad earlier he doesn't have time to fix it
19:22 <SonikkuAmerica> ianorlin: I don't remember that in Xubuntu Trusty (which I'm on now)
19:22 <ianorlin> it got fixed in xubuntu by about beta 2 but not in lubuntu
19:23 <ianorlin> and is only in live session if you go away
19:24 <gilir> ianorlin, I try to fix it, but it exposes others problems that I can't fix right now
19:24 <ianorlin> ah
19:25 <phillw> gilir: ianorlin so, release notes and we fight another day?
19:26 <ianorlin> yep
19:27 <phillw> gilir: you okay with that?
19:27 <gilir> phillw, yes
19:27 <SonikkuAmerica> And the xfce4-power-manager thing where it's not starting on login?
19:27 <SonikkuAmerica> (I'm not sure where that goes under, but it's a bug to me)
19:28 <gilir> SonikkuAmerica, I can't reproduce it on my laptop
19:28 * ianorlin hasn't either
19:28 <SonikkuAmerica> gilir: Fair enough. Maybe the latest daily fixes it.
19:28 <gilir> SonikkuAmerica, try to play with laptop-mode settings
19:28 <SonikkuAmerica> OK
19:28 <SonikkuAmerica> Nothing further on bugs then
19:29 <phillw> any further questions / comments ?
19:29 <SonikkuAmerica> Yes. A quick Comms update
19:29 <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: go for it :)
19:30 <SonikkuAmerica> The StartUbuntu project (technically a part of Lubuntu Comms, but still run by Ali/amjjawad) now has an official IRC channel, #ubuntu-start (much to his chagrin because he doesn't used IRC and I went a little bit over his head).
19:31 <SonikkuAmerica> I cc'ed Lubuntu Comms and Ubuntu GNOME Comms about it in the mailing list.
19:31 * ianorlin got that email
19:31 <SonikkuAmerica> It has the approval of the IRC Council too, and I seem to have roped an Ubuntu member or 2 in, including pleia2
19:32 <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: so #tor-dev can be dropped?
19:32 <phillw> sorry... #torios
19:33 * ianorlin thinks that is different still and note meeting is still going
19:33 <SonikkuAmerica> phillw: I have to agree with ianorlin. #ubuntu-start is in the StartUbuntu wiki as our official IRC meeting place.
19:34 <SonikkuAmerica> (We originally met in #start-ubuntu, but we needed to change the name to meet Ubuntu IRC Council specs)
19:35 <SonikkuAmerica> </update>
19:35 <SonikkuAmerica> Any questions about that?
19:36 <phillw> SonikkuAmerica: ianorlin this has little input to lubuntu?
19:38 <SonikkuAmerica> I'm not going to argue about it in this meeting, I'm just updating us on a sub-project of our Communications team.
19:40 <SonikkuAmerica> (( This wasn't supposed to be a disaster... ))
19:40 <SonikkuAmerica> Other than that, I'm done.
19:40 * ianorlin has nothing more to add
19:43 <SonikkuAmerica> (( Where's gilir? ))
19:46 <gilir> meeting over ?
19:46 <SonikkuAmerica> (( Is the bot stopped? ))
19:47 <ianorlin> ((I think the bot is still going))
19:47 <SonikkuAmerica> (( Me too ))
19:51 <phillw> #endmeeting