== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu Community Meeting, 16 Oct at 10:32 — 11:16 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2015/xubuntu-devel.2015-10-16-10.32.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Open Action Items ===
The discussion about "Open Action Items" started at 10:37.

  * ''ACTION:'' knome to send a mail to the mailing list about phasing out "Team updates" in the meetings

=== Team Updates ===
The discussion about "Team Updates" started at 10:42.

  * QA - call for RC testing went out yesterday
  * Final Freeze is now in effect
  * parole 0.8.1 accepted for wily
  * Our libreoffice-elementary-theme is now upstream in LibreOffice
  * the numbers on the tracker look excellent, good work everyone http://tracker.xubuntu.org/

=== Discussion ===
The discussion about "Discussion" started at 10:49.

 * '''Last minute Wily issues for discussion''' (10:50)
  * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/W/DefaultMediaPlayer 
 * '''Core ISO/ CD:DVD''' (10:55)
 * '''15.10 RC and testing''' (10:58)
  * that
  * Please test RC images and upgrades in good time
  * ''ACTION:'' flocculant once tracker is up to date to mail user list re RC
  * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2015-October/003403.html 
 * '''16.04 Milestones''' (11:02)
  * From a development perspective, we're targeting bug fixes to make 16.04 super stable.  Don't expect a lot of new features, so testing done at all parts of the cycle will be incredibly relevant
 * '''16.04 Package Testing''' (11:08)
  * Package Testing coming back for 16.04
  * Usability bug reports are fair game. These changes really make Xfce and Xubuntu easier to use for lots of people. If things don't seem quite right with an application, let us know.
  * Since we're targeting bug fixes and not so much new features with the next cycle, we can likely expect rapid reviews and fixes. More on this in future discussions.
 * '''Bug Tagging''' (11:14)
  * please remember to mark bugs with xubuntu-exp and the version, if using a ppa xubuntu-exp version ppa

=== Schedule Next Meeting ===
The discussion about "Schedule Next Meeting" started at 11:15.

  * ''LINK:'' https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Team+Meeting&iso=20151016T20&p1=%3A&ah=1&am=30 
  * Please join us at later today at 20:00 UTC for Meeting #2
  * https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Team+Meeting&iso=20151016T20&p1=%3A&ah=1&am=30



== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * flocculant
  * flocculant once tracker is up to date to mail user list re RC



== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * bluesabre (86)
 * flocculant (57)
 * krytarik (10)
 * meetingology (5)
 * slickymasterWork (3)



== Full Log ==


 10:32 <bluesabre> #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting

 10:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Oct 16 10:32:40 2015 UTC.  The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 10:32 <meetingology> 

 10:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 10:33 <bluesabre> I'll wait a bit for people to show up

 10:33 <bluesabre> It was an accident I even managed to wake up before the meeting today (shame on me)

 10:36 <bluesabre> jjfrv8: are you the only other one besides me?

 10:36 <bluesabre> may be a very short meeting :)

 10:36 <krytarik> I'm here too. :P

 10:37 <bluesabre> hi krytarik

 10:37 <krytarik> Hi bluesabre.

 10:37 <bluesabre> Let's get started then :)

 10:37 <bluesabre> #topic Open Action Items

 10:38 <bluesabre> - knome to send a mail to the mailing list about phasing out "Team updates" in the meetings

 10:39 <bluesabre> I'm... not sure if that went out

 10:40 <bluesabre> anybody else better at searching their inboxes?

 10:41 <krytarik> bluesabre: You mean for voting? Nope.

 10:41 <bluesabre> Thought so.

 10:41 <flocculant> hi

 10:41 <bluesabre> hi flocculant

 10:41 <krytarik> Hi flocculant.

 10:41 <slickymasterWork> o/

 10:42 <bluesabre> #action knome to send a mail to the mailing list about phasing out "Team updates" in the meetings

 10:42 * meetingology knome to send a mail to the mailing list about phasing out "Team updates" in the meetings

 10:42 <bluesabre> hi slickymasterWork

 10:42 <bluesabre> the party is getting started now

 10:42 <bluesabre> moving on

 10:42 <bluesabre> #topic Team Updates

 10:42 <bluesabre> :D

 10:42 * flocculant has to try and remember the show tonight ...

 10:43 <flocculant> #info QA - call for RC testing went out yesterday

 10:43 <flocculant> done ...

 10:43 <bluesabre> #info Final Freeze is now in effect

 10:44 <bluesabre> #info parole 0.8.1 accepted for wily

 10:44 <bluesabre> (woohoo!)

 10:44 <flocculant> :)

 10:44 <bluesabre> #info Our libreoffice-elementary-theme is now upstream in LibreOffice

 10:45 <bluesabre> (in trunk)

 10:45 <bluesabre> Will probably take some conversations with the LO packaging theme to get it building with X

 10:46 <bluesabre> not sure I have anything else from dev/artwork

 10:46 <krytarik> * team

 10:46 <krytarik> :P

 10:46 <bluesabre> anybody else want to add any updates they can think of?

 10:47 <flocculant> bluesabre: just fyi - upgraded parole from -proposed - all works :D

 10:47 <bluesabre> flocculant: oh goodie

 10:47 <bluesabre> that was a very last minute release/upload... counting on you ;)

 10:48 <bluesabre> #info the numbers on the tracker look excellent, good work everyone http://tracker.xubuntu.org/

 10:48 <bluesabre> and with nothing else, we can move on...

 10:49 <bluesabre> #topic Discussion

 10:50 <bluesabre> here we have: Last minute Wily issues for discussion, Core ISO/ CD:DVD, 15.10 RC and testing, 16.04 Milestones, 16.04 Package testing, Bug tagging

 10:50 <flocculant> #subtopics even :p

 10:50 <bluesabre> yeah

 10:50 <bluesabre> :D

 10:50 <flocculant> :)

 10:50 <bluesabre> #subtopic Last minute Wily issues for discussion

 10:51 <flocculant> the only things I've got for this will come up shortly

 10:52 <bluesabre> flocculant has our current known issues at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/flocculant/sandbox

 10:52 <flocculant> but in general everything seems to be looking good from my perspective other than the vm issues that everyone sees

 10:52 <bluesabre> yeah

 10:52 <bluesabre> and the gmb issue I never managed to resolve...

 10:53 <flocculant> right - good reason to ditch it for xx and forget all about it :D

 10:53 <bluesabre> :D

 10:53 <bluesabre> But yeah, I think we're in good shape for release... let's see what updates land during the final freeze that might change our minds

 10:53 <flocculant> I guess we could add the v cycle spec for media players for x cycle

 10:54 <flocculant> oh wrong - for w cycle :)

 10:54 <flocculant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/W/DefaultMediaPlayer

 10:54 <bluesabre> :)

 10:54 <bluesabre> so if nobody has any issues to discuss, we can start the next subtopic

 10:55 <flocculant> wfm

 10:55 <bluesabre> #subtopic Core ISO/ CD:DVD

 10:55 <flocculant> hopefully Unit193 will be about for the next meeting to add to this

 10:55 <bluesabre> yes

 10:56 <krytarik> There is nothing more to add though.

 10:56 <bluesabre> I think things are in place now... and we want to get these isos spinning when X starts

 10:56 <flocculant> krytarik: there is

 10:56 <flocculant> even if it's just getting where we are written - people do read the minutes and without us telling people things - they've no idea

 10:57 <flocculant> bluesabre: yep and as early in the cycle as possible - we as a team need to be more on top of where that is during the cycle I guess

 10:58 <bluesabre> maybe this will be in Team updates for next meeting :)

 10:58 <flocculant> :)

 10:58 <bluesabre> next up...

 10:58 <bluesabre> #subtopic 15.10 RC and testing

 10:59 <bluesabre> now who wrote that there... hmmm

 10:59 <flocculant> ok - so obviously - as many people as can do so - test please - images and upgrades too :)

 10:59 <bluesabre> #info that

 10:59 <flocculant> the dev list got their ping - as soon as images are available I will update

 11:00 <flocculant> #info Please test RC images and upgrades in good time

 11:00 <bluesabre> :)

 11:00 <flocculant> action flocculant once tracker is up to date to mail user list re RC

 11:00 <flocculant> #action flocculant once tracker is up to date to mail user list re RC

 11:00 * meetingology flocculant once tracker is up to date to mail user list re RC

 11:01 <bluesabre> nice

 11:01 <bluesabre> anything else?

 11:01 <flocculant> mail from infinity today gives more detail on when "We will shut down cronjobs and spin some RC images late Friday or early

 11:01 <flocculant> Saturday once the archive and proposed-migration have settled a bit ..."

 11:01 <bluesabre> oh nice

 11:02 <flocculant> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2015-October/003403.html

 11:02 <bluesabre> uploads are still going strong

 11:02 <flocculant> nothing else :)

 11:02 <bluesabre> #subtopic 16.04 Milestones

 11:02 <flocculant> oh lord - me again :p

 11:02 * bluesabre is happy flocculant is around

 11:03 <flocculant> I'd like us to decide which we participate as early as possible

 11:03 <bluesabre> I agree

 11:03 <flocculant> personally I would like to see us start with the second Alpha for 16.04

 11:04 <bluesabre> I'd agree with that, Alpha 1 is almost always too early, landing before all the breaking changes

 11:04 <flocculant> yep

 11:04 * slickymasterWork agrees with both bluesabre and flocculant

 11:04 <flocculant> I do have one more point re milestones - but will wait for others to speak up

 11:05 <bluesabre> From a development perspective, we're targeting bug fixes to make 16.04 super stable.  Don't expect a lot of new features, so testing done at all parts of the cycle will be incredibly relevant

 11:05 <flocculant> make that an #info :p

 11:05 <bluesabre> #info From a development perspective, we're targeting bug fixes to make 16.04 super stable.  Don't expect a lot of new features, so testing done at all parts of the cycle will be incredibly relevant

 11:05 <flocculant> :)

 11:05 <bluesabre> and I'll have a similar message with the next sub

 11:06 <flocculant> krytarik: any input on that?

 11:06 <krytarik> flocculant: Sure, I agree.

 11:06 <krytarik> Alpha 1, that is.

 11:06 <krytarik> Woop, nope 2.

 11:06 <bluesabre> :D

 11:06 <flocculant> :)

 11:07 <bluesabre> then we can move on to the next subtopic, yes?

 11:07 <flocculant> ok - second point then - there is talk (not sure if it'll get further) of allowing flavours to stop builds

 11:07 <bluesabre> ah

 11:07 <bluesabre> that could be nice

 11:07 <flocculant> so if that does happen - we can revisit milestones - and do our own when it suits us

 11:08 <bluesabre> hm

 11:08 <bluesabre> good to know

 11:08 <flocculant> we can move on now - just wanted to bring that up :)

 11:08 <bluesabre> thanks

 11:08 <bluesabre> #subtopic 16.04 Package Testing

 11:09 <flocculant> this will be coming back

 11:09 <slickymasterWork> and dully needed

 11:09 <flocculant> bluesabre and I will be setting this up for 16.04 - but it will be a bit more specific than it has in the past

 11:09 <bluesabre> yup

 11:10 <flocculant> #info Package Testing coming back for 16.04

 11:10 <flocculant> there's a fair bit of work to do for that, but it's been started already

 11:11 <flocculant> bluesabre: nothing more from me on that - yet :)

 11:11 <bluesabre> :D

 11:11 <flocculant> so your perspective please - mostly for those attending tonight :)

 11:12 <bluesabre> #info Usability bug reports are fair game. These changes really make Xfce and Xubuntu easier to use for lots of people. If things don't seem quite right with an application, let us know.

 11:12 * bluesabre will regret that

 11:12 <flocculant> :p

 11:13 <flocculant> and ppa's people - use those :)

 11:13 <bluesabre> #info Since we're targeting bug fixes and not so much new features with the next cycle, we can likely expect rapid reviews and fixes. More on this in future discussions.

 11:13 <bluesabre> ok, I'm done

 11:13 <flocculant> thanks

 11:14 <bluesabre> #subtopic Bug Tagging

 11:14 <flocculant> and this is easy :)

 11:14 <bluesabre> duck duck goose-exp

 11:15 <flocculant> #info please remember to mark bugs with xubuntu-exp and the version, if using a ppa xubuntu-exp version ppa

 11:15 <flocculant> done :)

 11:15 <bluesabre> nice

 11:15 <bluesabre> that covers everything

 11:15 <flocculant> \o/

 11:15 <bluesabre> #topic Schedule Next Meeting

 11:15 <flocculant> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Team+Meeting&iso=20151016T20&p1=%3A&ah=1&am=30

 11:15 <flocculant> done :D

 11:16 <bluesabre> #info Please join us at later today at 20:00 UTC for Meeting #2

 11:16 <bluesabre> #info https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Xubuntu+Team+Meeting&iso=20151016T20&p1=%3A&ah=1&am=30

 11:16 <flocculant> I'll get the meeting page updated so that those joining later can check that out first

 11:16 <bluesabre> cool, thanks

 11:16 <bluesabre> #endmeeting



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