== Meeting information == * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 06 Feb at 19:02 — 19:44 UTC * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2014/xubuntu-devel.2014-02-06-19.02.log.html]] == Meeting summary == === Open action items === The discussion about "Open action items" started at 19:02. * ''ACTION:'' ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status * ''ACTION:'' ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues * ''ACTION:'' knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position * ''ACTION:'' micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches * ''ACTION:'' xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase * ''ACTION:'' Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs === Team updates === The discussion about "Team updates" started at 19:09. * slickymaster has finished porting the Mugshot documentation into the Xubuntu docs * slickymaster started to work on porting the Xfdesktop documentation into Xubuntu docs * Docs team held a Trusty meeting and assignments were handed out * xubuntu-qa Package testing - Settings Manager - mandatory testing +2, run-once and optional +1 * xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 32bit/ Live 4 tests, Alt 5 test * xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 64bit/ Live 6 tests, Alt 6 tests * xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 32 bit 11 tests * xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 64 bit 18 tests * xubuntu-qa XFCE Core Package testing due next week * xubuntu-qa light-locker has seen testing now * Kudos to knome and bluesabre for getting the SRU Docs update through all the hurdles * elfy Blueman added to Network Testsuite * knome and pleia2 helped startubuntu create some xubuntu-branded versions of "xp to *buntu*" flyers * the flyers were widely shared on social media and pleia2 is printing some up for an upcoming conference * ''LINK:'' http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/ * site updated to link to several language variations on spreadubuntu.org * got pavucontrol merged into indicator-sound as an alternate recommends to the control centers, so we shouldn't be pulling them in because of that at least. === Announcements === The discussion about "Announcements" started at 19:21. * 12.04.4 will be released any minute! * With knome's help, jjfrv8 received approval for ~ubuntu-core-doc membership * Debian Import Freeze is today * Feature Freeze is in 2 weeks * Beta 1 is in 3 weeks, freeze in the first half of that week === Agenda === The discussion about "Agenda" started at 19:24. * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Release_Cycle * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned * ''ACTION:'' Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar * ''ACTION:'' Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin * ''ACTION:'' micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application * ''ACTION:'' Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin === Schedule next meeting === The discussion about "Schedule next meeting" started at 19:44. * Next meeting Thu, Feb 13 at 19UTC == Vote results == == Action items == * ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status * ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues * knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position * micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches * xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase * Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs * pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned * Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar * Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin * micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application * Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin == Action items, by person == * ali1234 * ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status * ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues * elfy * Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin * knome * knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position * micahg * ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues * micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches * micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application * Noskcaj * Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin * micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application * Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin * pleia2 * pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned * Unit193 * Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs * Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar * xubuntu-qa * xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase == People present (lines said) == * knome (101) * elfy (21) * pleia2 (19) * meetingology (16) * slickymaster (9) * Unit193 (9) * Noskcaj (9) * ali1234 (7) * micahg-work (4) * jjfrv8-work (3) * schproodle (2) * xubuntu-qa (0) * micahg (0) == Full Log == 19:02 #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 19:02 Meeting started Thu Feb 6 19:02:38 2014 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:02 19:02 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 19:02 o/ 19:02 #topic Open action items 19:03 will have to dig them up... 19:03 gtk3 indicators 19:04 ali1234, will we carry that on? 19:04 yes. nothing further happened with the upstart porting, but something new also came to my attention recently 19:04 oki 19:04 #action ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status 19:04 * meetingology ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status 19:04 #action ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues 19:04 * meetingology ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues 19:05 #nick micahg 19:05 #action elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily 19:05 * meetingology elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily 19:05 namely that elementary also is a user of indicators, and they are in the same boat as us, except that they don't seem to be as well up with what is going on 19:05 Noskcaj, did you get that sorted out with pitti? 19:05 so i'm going to go and have a chat with them, if i can 19:05 knome: that's been put to bed now 19:05 ali1234, ok, so we're steering that ship; thanks for keeping updated 19:05 #undo 19:05 Removing item from minutes: 19:05 knome, yep. I screwed up on some DESTDIR stuff 19:05 elfy, cheers :) 19:05 Noskcaj, ok, great to have it sorted then 19:06 #action knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position 19:06 * meetingology knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position 19:06 will carry one 19:06 *on 19:06 i think we're good with the bluetooth stuff. 19:07 #action micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches 19:07 * meetingology micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches 19:07 micahg-work, ping, is that done? 19:08 working on it 19:08 ok, carrying on 19:09 #action xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase 19:09 * meetingology xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase 19:09 #nick xubuntu-qa 19:09 and from the docs meeting: 19:09 #action Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs 19:09 * meetingology Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs 19:09 #nick Unit193 19:09 #topic Team updates 19:10 use #info and #action as appropriate. 19:10 floor is yours 19:10 #info slickymaster has finished porting the Mugshot documentation into the Xubuntu docs 19:10 knome: actioning something is great - but if we've not got any bluetooth to check - it'll get moved on 19:10 #info slickymaster started to work on porting the Xfdesktop documentation into Xubuntu docs 19:11 #info Docs team held a Trusty meeting and assignments were handed out 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa Package testing - Settings Manager - mandatory testing +2, run-once and optional +1 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 32bit/ Live 4 tests, Alt 5 test 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 64bit/ Live 6 tests, Alt 6 tests 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 32 bit 11 tests 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 64 bit 18 tests 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa XFCE Core Package testing due next week 19:11 #info xubuntu-qa light-locker has seen testing now 19:11 elfy, we should be shipping blueman 19:11 :) 19:11 #info Kudos to knome and bluesabre for getting the SRU Docs update through all the hurdles 19:11 and i can organize testing for the testcase :) 19:12 yeah, yay, fixed looks for the docs in 12.04! 19:12 \o/ 19:12 weather plugin 12.04 status? 19:13 knome: blueman - mandatory, optional or run-once 19:14 elfy, either opt or once 19:14 #info elfy Blueman added to Network Testsuite 19:15 so that's done then 19:15 hehe, nice 19:15 though one can argue if it's network or not >:) 19:16 yep - we can argue all you like - the die is cast :p 19:16 i tried to use blueman today and it crashed - for a2dp/sound :( 19:16 ali1234, did you file a bug? 19:16 no, it's saucy, nobody will care 19:17 probably won't be able to reproduce it either 19:17 #info knome and pleia2 helped startubuntu create some xubuntu-branded versions of "xp to *buntu*" flyers 19:17 Got indicator-sound merged. 19:17 Unit193, caaaaan you #infoooo 19:17 :p 19:17 #info the flyers were widely shared on social media and pleia2 is printing some up for an upcoming conference 19:17 #link http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/ 19:18 pleia2, still, you don't need #link with bare links ;) 19:18 #info site updated to link to several language variations on spreadubuntu.org 19:18 * pleia2 shrugs 19:18 #info got pavucontrol merged into indicator-sound as an alternate recommends to the control centers, so we shouldn't be pulling them in because of that at least. 19:19 Just waiting to hear back from the two artists for the xubuntu-community-artwork package, also if mica has time to review it, but not sure he does. 19:20 Unit193, this is a meeting, just proudly ping people :P 19:20 re: #xubuntu, i have the page ready to be updated, waiting for cjwatson's ack of release 19:21 anything else for the updates? 19:21 #topic Announcements 19:21 #info 12.04.4 will be released any minute! 19:22 :D 19:22 I have an offtopic announcement 19:22 #info With knome's help, jjfrv8 received approval for ~ubuntu-core-doc membership 19:22 \o/ 19:22 \o/ 19:22 \o/ 19:22 congrats jjfrv8 19:22 i just went and marked that as done in the blueprint 19:22 today is my Ubuntu Membership application, at 22:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-meeting. So if you guys feel like showing up and support it I would appreciate it 19:23 it's a bit late ... :p 19:23 pleia2, was that at the same time as the docs meeting? :D 19:23 too many meetings today. 19:23 knome: yes 19:23 yes it is, knome :P 19:23 indeed 19:23 slickymaster, if i'm around, will be there 19:23 tks 19:23 slickymaster: Since I didn't write one yet, make sure to ping me right before so I will be there? 19:23 #info Debian Import Freeze is today 19:23 will do Unit193 19:23 #info Feature Freeze is in 2 weeks 19:23 and also you, micahg-work 19:24 Yeah, sorry. 19:24 #info Beta 1 is in 3 weeks, freeze in the first half of that week 19:24 #topic Agenda 19:24 no specific agenda items. 19:25 does anybody have something else to discuss? 19:25 weather plugin in 12.04 19:25 my MOTU application 19:25 what's with the weather plugin? 19:25 after yesterday's doc meeting, I'm putting together a release checklist for the website (what we need to create/update) 19:26 pleia2, don't we have that in the wiki? 19:26 let me dig that up. 19:26 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Release_Cycle 19:26 specifically, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing 19:27 knome: it needs updating 19:27 yep. 19:27 but please do it on the wiki :) 19:27 "Update the website" isn't enough ;) 19:27 i'm also thinking that could have its own subpage in Processes 19:27 Testing QATracker using VirtualBox. Testing Post-Install. Pendrive insertion fails in VM but it is mounted by the host machine. 19:27 well there's also "wiki maintaining" 19:27 we need to come up with our FAQ post, define which pages need updates, etc 19:28 what we probably need is gather all these in one big calendar 19:28 or, a similar table as the release schedules 19:28 schproodle, we're in the middle of the meeting, if you can wait for 15 minutes, would be good. 19:28 Unit193 could just put these milestones into the xubuntu calendar 19:28 schproodle, feel free to take part in the meeting though 19:28 xubuntu calendar is a bit meh :| 19:29 I get the donuts eh :) 19:29 TBH, i think the release schedule table is surprisingly good 19:29 pleia2: Sure, sorry what ones? 19:29 so you don't want it in a calendar? :) 19:29 pleia2, can be *as well* 19:29 Unit193: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing 19:29 pleia2, but i guess i'd also like to have a release-specific calendar 19:29 that should of course be updated per release 19:30 no moar calendars 19:30 err, 19:30 i mean 19:30 wiki table 19:30 :P 19:30 ah 19:30 ala https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule 19:30 :) 19:30 yeah sure 19:30 i do agree that the processes page needs updating though 19:31 i'm more than happy to help with it any day our schedules allow to sit down together 19:31 ...figuratively speaking 19:31 ok, I'll start brainstorming when I have extra braincells, then we can flesh it out 19:31 sure, great, thanks 19:32 #action pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned 19:32 * meetingology pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned 19:32 In addition to, or rather than? 19:32 Unit193, we should probably update the calendar with those milestones as well. 19:33 and i should probably either learn using the calendar (in a non-technical way), or just dismiss all schedules after trusty ;) 19:34 #action Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar 19:34 * meetingology Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar 19:35 Noskcaj, still waiting for an answer re: weather plugin 19:35 ok 19:35 so what's up with it in precise? 19:36 in unapproved 19:37 is there something specific to be discussed about it, or do we just want it to move along? 19:37 I just wanted to check the status with micahg-work 19:37 okay 19:38 Noskcaj, ok, motu application 19:38 if the weather plugin is needed for something, poke the SRU team, but precise-proposed has been frozen the last few days 19:38 well weather-plugin is complete dead currently 19:39 I've not had a reply to my motu application in three weeks 19:39 I'll try to move that forward tonight 19:39 knome: OK, done more or less, might want to take a look. Also, what additional data do you want? 19:40 Unit193, you should talk with pleia2, or alternative me after we've refreshed the page 19:40 Noskcaj, can you talk with the SRU team about the weather plugin? 19:41 ok 19:41 once it's ready, let me know - but I should pick it up from the bug 19:42 12.04 is supported for one more year only (for the xubuntu part), and 14.04 is out in 6 months, so the more it stands in queues the less its impact will be 19:42 #action Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin 19:42 * meetingology Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin 19:42 #action micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application 19:42 * meetingology micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application 19:42 #action Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin 19:42 * meetingology Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin 19:43 any other things people want to discuss? 19:44 nope 19:44 #topic Schedule next meeting 19:44 #info Next meeting Thu, Feb 13 at 19UTC 19:44 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)