15:00 <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting
15:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov  7 15:00:27 2013 UTC.  The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:00 <knome> #topic Items carried on
15:00 <knome> #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting
15:01 <knome> #action knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
15:01 * meetingology knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
15:01 <knome> yes, will try to get to it ASAP
15:01 <knome> i sent the updated SD stuff to list
15:01 <knome> #nick micahg
15:01 <knome> #action micahg to talk to barry about python2.7/3 situation
15:01 * meetingology micahg to talk to barry about python2.7/3 situation
15:01 <knome> #action micahg to upload whiskermenu to xfce PPAs
15:01 * meetingology micahg to upload whiskermenu to xfce PPAs
15:02 <GridCube> :)
15:02 <knome> #nick ochosi
15:02 <knome> #action ochosi announces the community wallpapers project on the mailing list
15:02 * meetingology ochosi announces the community wallpapers project on the mailing list
15:02 <knome> #nick team
15:02 <knome> #action (convert to work item) team to investigate patching xfce4-power-manager or finding alternatives
15:02 * meetingology (convert to work item) team to investigate patching xfce4-power-manager or finding alternatives
15:02 <knome> #subtopi Strategy Document reviewing
15:03 <knome> #subtopic Strategy Document reviewing
15:03 <knome> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-November/009413.html
15:03 <knome> who has had time to go through?
15:03 <skellat> o/
15:05 <knome> skellat, +1 or -1, or need changes to be either?
15:05 <skellat> I would want to loosen up the interpreted languages bit to allow for use of Python-based tools as well as to adjust the C++ portion to reflect that Firefox is coded in that
15:06 <skellat> The only strictly C browser I can think of at this point is Dillo and that is a suboptimal choice for users
15:07 <knome> since that portion isn't what we have changed now, would you be happy to approve changes and then start a review for the technical bits?
15:07 <skellat> Yes
15:07 <knome> okay, good
15:07 <knome> i'm mostly interested if people in the -team (GridCube included) are happy with the proposed *changes*
15:07 <knome> i know we probably need to go through more of the technical side as well
15:07 <knome> (or eventually strip some of that off to procedures)
15:08 <skellat> The changes overall seem fairly minor so +1
15:08 <knome> i think it would benefit us all though if we got the first batch of changes in ASAP
15:08 <knome> skellat, except voting for XPL. otherwise we just dropped stuff.
15:09 <knome> (to wiki/Xubuntu/Processes, to make them more flexible)
15:09 <GridCube> :) i don't mind them, i find that they simplify the work
15:09 <skellat> We've previous discussed XPL voting and I have no objections to the change
15:09 <knome> okay
15:09 <knome> anyway, i'll send a mail
15:09 <GridCube> although i can't never rememeber how to find them
15:10 <GridCube> i see everyone referncing them but i have to dig a whole lot to find the SD
15:10 <knome> #action knome to send email about progressing with the SD review; we will need to approve current changes at some point; we can get back to revieweing the technicalities later
15:10 * meetingology knome to send email about progressing with the SD review; we will need to approve current changes at some point; we can get back to revieweing the technicalities later
15:10 <knome> GridCube, go to the wiki.
15:10 <knome> GridCube, click the "Strategy Document" link.
15:10 <knome> GridCube, done.
15:11 <GridCube> thats the "actual" strategy document
15:11 <knome> yes.
15:11 <GridCube> well, where is the proposed?
15:11 <knome> GridCube, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-November/009413.html for the branch with the proposed one
15:11 <knome> i just linked that earlier
15:12 <skellat> #link http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/+junk/xubuntu-strategy-document-rewrite-1311/view/head:/strategy-document
15:12 <knome> well that too. the mail summaries what's changed though
15:12 <knome> (and it's not a trap)
15:13 <knome> but please review it when you can, let's not waste meeting time for that
15:13 <knome> i'll get back to you all with a new email,
15:13 <knome> .
15:13 <knome> #topic Team updates
15:13 <knome> is there anything?
15:14 <knome> #info 12.04 docs SRU is getting sponsored
15:14 <skellat> #info The documentation SRU for 12.04 was sponsored by Sebastien Bacher and is working its way through the various queues
15:14 <knome> that's the another way of saying it :)
15:14 <knome> anything else?
15:14 <skellat> More verbose
15:14 <knome> very much, cheers skellat :)
15:14 <skellat> I've got nothing else
15:15 <knome> i think we're still a bit slow on "new" things
15:15 <knome> #topic Announcements
15:15 <knome> none from me. others?
15:15 <skellat> #info Ubuntu Developer Summit will run November 19-21
15:16 <knome> #info Agenda at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/
15:16 <skellat> I don't believe there are any flavor sessions at all on the schedule this time
15:17 <knome> me neither
15:17 <skellat> #info RELEASE TEAM needs to attend this vUDS-1311 panel if at all possible: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22041/core-1311-release/
15:18 <knome> that doesn't sound like too interesting, or critical to me
15:19 <skellat> Moving milestones possibly again
15:19 <knome> mostly the release schedule discussion
15:19 <skellat> Yep
15:19 <knome> #nick team
15:19 <skellat> The original version had us dropping an alpha at Christmas, oddly enough
15:20 <knome> #action team members to go through the UDS schedule and schedule their schedule to be able to make the sessions per the schedule
15:20 * meetingology team members to go through the UDS schedule and schedule their schedule to be able to make the sessions per the schedule
15:20 <knome> #topic New and emerging items
15:21 <knome> #subtopic Approve or decline specifications on the Roadmap
15:21 <knome> we have three team members here
15:21 <knome> 1/2 quorum would need 6 persons
15:21 <knome> 1/3 4
15:21 <knome> i don't think we should go ahead unless people show up in the next 5 minutes
15:21 <GridCube> agreed
15:22 <knome> so let's do this
15:22 <knome> #undo
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15:22 <knome> #subtopic Schedule next meeting
15:22 <GridCube> anytime is good to me
15:23 <knome> #info Next Xubuntu community meeting on November 14, 16UTC (note the one-hour later time, we are now all non-DST)
15:23 <knome> and now i'll idle for 5 minutes doing other stuff, waiting for people to pop in.
15:38 <knome> #endmeeting