== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meeting, 17 Sep at 15:02 — 15:57 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-09-17-15.02.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Items carried on ===
The discussion about "Items carried on" started at 15:04.

 * '''Open action items from previous meeting''' (15:05)
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt
  * ''ACTION:'' mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later
  * ''ACTION:'' micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch
  * ''ACTION:'' skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so
 * '''Strategy Document reviewing''' (15:10)
 * '''Ideas for using the project money''' (15:12)

=== Team updates ===
The discussion about "Team updates" started at 15:17.

  * our themes have seen new releases today
  * exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations
  * ''ACTION:'' mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF
  * the latest gmusicbrowser is now in saucy
  * ochosi and I have been working on a lightdm-gtk-greeter fix for lock/login issues, to be uploaded tonight
  * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1204486 
  * for those wanting to test the lightdm-gtk-greeter fix, read comment #15 on the bugreport
  * the xubuntu showcase is doing work but it moves slowly
  * ''ACTION:'' knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases

=== Announcements ===
The discussion about "Announcements" started at 15:32.


=== New and emerging items ===
The discussion about "New and emerging items" started at 15:45.

 * '''Schedule next meeting''' (15:45)
  * next meeting, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, September 19, 1500 UTC
  * ''ACTION:'' knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed



== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
 * knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt
 * mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later
 * micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch
 * skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so
 * mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF
 * knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases
 * knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed



== Action items, by person ==

 * GridCube
  * knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases
 * mr_pouit
  * mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later
  * mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF
 * ochosi
  * micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch
 * **UNASSIGNED**
  * knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week
  * knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt
  * skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so
  * knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed



== People present (lines said) ==

 * bluesabre (76)
 * micahg-work (29)
 * ochosi (26)
 * GridCube (18)
 * meetingology (12)
 * jjfrv8-work (7)
 * ubottu (2)
 * mr_pouit (0)



== Full Log ==


 15:02 <bluesabre> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting

 15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 17 15:02:51 2013 UTC.  The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 15:03 <bluesabre> #chair ochosi

 15:03 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre ochosi

 15:03 <GridCube> :)

 15:03 <bluesabre> who's here?

 15:03 <GridCube> o/

 15:03 <jjfrv8-work> o/

 15:04 <ochosi> o/

 15:04 <bluesabre> hey folks!

 15:04 <bluesabre> #topic Items carried on

 15:05 <bluesabre> #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting

 15:05 <bluesabre> #action knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week

 15:05 * meetingology knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week

 15:05 <bluesabre> #action knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt

 15:05 * meetingology knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt

 15:06 <bluesabre> #action mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later

 15:06 * meetingology mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later

 15:06 <bluesabre> #action micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch

 15:06 * meetingology micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch

 15:06 <bluesabre> #action skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so

 15:06 * meetingology skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so

 15:07 <bluesabre> I'm not very good at this :D

 15:08 <GridCube> P: you are doing well

 15:08 <bluesabre> basically copy-pasting knome's script from last time

 15:09 <ochosi> hehe, looks fine to me

 15:10 <bluesabre> #subtopic Strategy Document reviewing

 15:10 <bluesabre> any updates here?

 15:11 * ochosi wasn't involved

 15:11 <jjfrv8-work> I think the vote has been postponed twice and it doesn't look like we have a quorum today.

 15:11 <bluesabre> looks like it was knome, pleia2, micahg, and possibly jjfrv8-work involved

 15:12 <bluesabre> looks like we'll postpone this for next meeting then

 15:12 <ochosi> yup

 15:12 <bluesabre> #subtopic Ideas for using the project money

 15:13 <bluesabre> another item where we need knome/pleia2 most likely

 15:13 <bluesabre> but... any thoughts, ideas, etc?

 15:13 <GridCube> no, i think we got the tshirts pretty much

 15:14 <bluesabre> oh, any updates on that?

 15:15 * bluesabre reads last meeting backlog now

 15:15 <bluesabre> knome had an action item here

 15:16 <bluesabre> so, if nothing else, we'll move on

 15:17 <bluesabre> #topic Team updates

 15:17 <bluesabre> ochosi?

 15:17 <ochosi> ok, for artwork...

 15:17 <ochosi> our themes have seen new releases today

 15:18 <ochosi> exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations

 15:18 <ochosi> so in case people enable the gnome3.10 ppa our themes will not break

 15:18 <ochosi> i've sent an email to mr_pouit already requesting the upload before UIF

 15:19 <bluesabre> cool, want to add some #infos, and give mrpouit an action item?

 15:22 <ochosi> oh

 15:22 <ochosi> sure

 15:22 <bluesabre> #nick mr_pouit

 15:22 <ochosi> sorry

 15:22 <bluesabre> :D

 15:22 <ochosi> (i'm half-working here)

 15:22 <ochosi> #info our themes have seen new releases today

 15:22 <bluesabre> me too, its cool

 15:22 <ochosi> #info exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations

 15:23 <ochosi> #action mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF

 15:23 * meetingology mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF

 15:23 <bluesabre> sweet

 15:23 <bluesabre> for applications...

 15:23 <bluesabre> #info the latest gmusicbrowser is now in saucy

 15:24 <bluesabre> #info ochosi and I have been working on a lightdm-gtk-greeter fix for lock/login issues, to be uploaded tonight

 15:25 <bluesabre> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1204486

 15:25 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]

 15:26 <ochosi> #info for those wanting to test the lightdm-gtk-greeter fix, read comment #15 on the bugreport

 15:26 <bluesabre> thanks

 15:26 <bluesabre> GridCube, how's the DA xubuntu-showcase going?

 15:27 <bluesabre> haven't looked at it for a while :)

 15:27 <GridCube> pretty much stalled

 15:27 <bluesabre> :(

 15:28 <GridCube> we cant reach the objectives

 15:28 <GridCube> if we dont start advertising, and we cant start advertising because no one has fullfiled the rules

 15:28 <GridCube> mostly licencies problems

 15:28 <bluesabre> ah

 15:28 <bluesabre> that's no fun

 15:29 <GridCube> we can get users to change their licences, but we hardly cant get a licence for their desktop backgrounds

 15:29 <GridCube> wich in many cases is central to the destop setting

 15:29 <bluesabre> right

 15:29 <GridCube> so yeah

 15:30 <GridCube> i got a few users to get their permissions and im waiting for knome to have a moment to try and upload the first soon

 15:30 <GridCube> i hope

 15:30 <GridCube> lets see if after that things move at a better pace

 15:30 <GridCube> so

 15:31 <GridCube> #info the xubuntu showcase is doing work but it moves slowly

 15:31 <GridCube> #action knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases

 15:31 * meetingology knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases

 15:31 <bluesabre> cool, hoping to see some momentum on that :)

 15:31 <GridCube> :)

 15:32 <bluesabre> does anybody else have updates?

 15:32 <bluesabre> #topic Announcements

 15:33 <bluesabre> I saw the announcement from last week, congrats jjfrv8-work on the extra responsibilities :)

 15:33 <micahg-work> sorry I'm late

 15:33 <bluesabre> hey micahg-work!

 15:34 <jjfrv8-work> Thanks.

 15:34 <bluesabre> it's okay, we've got myself, ochosi, GridCube, and jjfrv8-work

 15:34 <bluesabre> We're on announcements, but if you've got any updates, :)

 15:35 <micahg-work> nope, ochosi's gmb patch still needs uploading (which I should get to tonight)

 15:35 <bluesabre> oh, which patch is this?

 15:36 <micahg-work> still need to discuss indicators for saucy

 15:36 <micahg-work> albuminfo plugin IIRC

 15:36 <bluesabre> oh cool

 15:37 <micahg-work> unfortunately, that's about all I'll get to before the weekend unless there's something critical

 15:37 <bluesabre> what's the status on the indicators for saucy?  are we considering using the gtk3 wrapper or discussing broken indicators?

 15:37 * bluesabre is behind on updates

 15:38 <micahg-work> well, I'm not 100% up to date on what's going on

 15:38 <bluesabre> ochosi: are you more up-to-date?

 15:39 <ochosi> well the gtk3 indicators seem stable so far

 15:39 <micahg-work> if we can get the existing indicators working without too much work or risk, I'd rather do that for saucy and try to land the gtk3 indicator stuff when T opens

 15:39 <ochosi> but there hasn't been a release on libxfce4ui or the panel

 15:40 <micahg-work> if we have no choice, we can either drop indicators for saucy or try to get a freeze exception to push the gtk3 stuff

 15:40 <ochosi> imo it doesn't make a huge difference though

 15:40 <ochosi> we also ship random snapshots of abiword :)

 15:40 <bluesabre> :)

 15:40 <bluesabre> micahg-work, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204

 15:40 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]

 15:40 <micahg-work> abiword's not a core DE component ;)

 15:41 <micahg-work> bluesabre, yeah, that's what we're discussing I think

 15:41 <micahg-work> can someone please subscribe me

 15:41 <bluesabre> ok, cool

 15:41 <bluesabre> will do now

 15:41 <micahg-work> thanks

 15:41 <micahg-work> ali1234 did a lot of digging for this

 15:41 <micahg-work> or at least this bug is half the puzzle

 15:42 <bluesabre> yeah

 15:42 <ochosi> my personal take is that fixing the soundindicator won't go down without a lot of work

 15:43 <ochosi> at least that's what ali1234's comments on it suggested

 15:43 <micahg-work> right, I don't think porting the indicator is worthwhile

 15:43 <ochosi> so i think pushing new versions for gtk3 support or dropping indicators are the remaining options

 15:43 <micahg-work> so, either there's some way to use the gtk2 dbus service

 15:43 <micahg-work> or one of those 2 options

 15:44 <ochosi> gotta run folks

 15:44 <ochosi> sorry

 15:44 <bluesabre> its cool

 15:44 <bluesabre> any there any other announcements?

 15:45 <bluesabre> alrighty

 15:45 <bluesabre> #topic New and emerging items

 15:45 <bluesabre> #subtopic Schedule next meeting

 15:46 <bluesabre> I think we should postpone this until there are more of us around

 15:46 <micahg-work> well, we have beta 2 next week

 15:46 <bluesabre> ah

 15:46 <bluesabre> thursday?

 15:46 <micahg-work> that's why we had the meeting in the first place

 15:46 <micahg-work> yeah, I think the freeze is Monday for beta 2 now

 15:46 <micahg-work> do we still need docs uploaded?

 15:47 <bluesabre> I'm not sure

 15:49 <micahg-work> jjfrv8-work, are the latest docs in saucy?

 15:49 <jjfrv8-work> They're about 80% complete. I still have some review to do.

 15:50 <micahg-work> doc string freeze is thursday

 15:50 <jjfrv8-work> oops. Looks like I won't make it.

 15:51 <micahg-work> thursday 21:00 UTC, so I'd suggest pushing as far as we can, then finding someone to upload (I won't be around)

 15:51 <micahg-work> jjfrv8-work, maybe talk to the release team and the translators to see if we can get more time then

 15:51 <jjfrv8-work> Ok

 15:51 <micahg-work> we only have 4 weeks until release

 15:52 * micahg-work won't get to some of his pet projects for the cycle either it seems

 15:52 <bluesabre> Should we schedule a meeting for thursday to try to get a last-minute idea of where we are for beta2?

 15:52 <micahg-work> I won't be around, but feel free, and leave me notes if something needs to be done before Monday (freeze)

 15:52 <jjfrv8-work> I can't make Thursday

 15:54 <bluesabre> you can send updates to the -devel ml before the meeting, we'll pick them up for the meeting

 15:54 * micahg-work will brb

 15:54 <bluesabre> k

 15:56 <bluesabre> #info next meeting, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, September 19, 1500 UTC

 15:56 <bluesabre> #action knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed

 15:56 * meetingology knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed

 15:56 <bluesabre> :)

 15:57 <bluesabre> we'll go ahead and wrap up, I gotta run

 15:57 <bluesabre> #endmeeting



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