== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu Community Meeting, 18 Jul at 15:01 — 15:41 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-07-18-15.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Items carried on ===
The discussion about "Items carried on" started at 15:04.

 * '''Open action items from previous meeting''' (15:04)
  * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings#Xubuntu.2BAC8-Meetings.2BAC8-Archive.2BAC8-Minutes.2BAC8-2013-07-11.Action_items.2C_by_person 
  * A new app for setting user profile image and details: Mugshot
  * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/mugshot 
  * ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~mugshot-dev/+archive/daily 
  * ''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887544/ 
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 and GridCube prepare the social media broadcasting for desktop showcase
  * ''ACTION:'' bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot
  * ''ACTION:'' bluesabre to possibly coordinate testing mugshot with elfy

=== Team updates ===
The discussion about "Team updates" started at 15:13.

  * We now have stickers available for shipment worldwide via Unixstickers.com
  * ''LINK:'' http://www.unixstickers.com/xubuntu 
  * ochosi has been working on a new alt-tab switcher update for 4.12
  * knome has been working on some theme improvements to xubuntu.org
  * we're launching our "Xubuntu at..." series of interviews with orgs using Xubuntu tomorrow
  * jjfrv8 has been doing great work on the backport of 12.04 docs, we're on schedule to complete by Aug 1st
  * ''LINK:'' https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-July/009101.html 
  * ''ACTION:'' pleia2 to follow up with Mir email asking for an update

=== Announcements ===
The discussion about "Announcements" started at 15:26.


=== New and emerging items ===
The discussion about "New and emerging items" started at 15:29.

 * '''Proposal for more structured handling of Xubuntu bugs''' (15:29)
  * ''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887901/ 
 * '''Schedule next meeting''' (15:39)
  * team to schedule next meeting when more of the team is around



== Vote results ==




== Action items ==

 * pleia2 and GridCube prepare the social media broadcasting for desktop showcase
 * bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot
 * bluesabre to possibly coordinate testing mugshot with elfy
 * pleia2 to follow up with Mir email asking for an update



== Action items, by person ==

 * bluesabre
  * bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot
  * bluesabre to possibly coordinate testing mugshot with elfy
 * pleia2
  * pleia2 and GridCube prepare the social media broadcasting for desktop showcase
  * pleia2 to follow up with Mir email asking for an update
 * team
  * bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot



== People present (lines said) ==

 * bluesabre (62)
 * pleia2 (50)
 * meetingology (8)
 * lderan-work (6)
 * slickymaster_ (5)
 * team (0)



== Full Log ==


 15:01 <bluesabre> #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting

 15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jul 18 15:01:05 2013 UTC.  The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:01 <meetingology> 

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 15:01 <bluesabre> chair pleia2

 15:01 <bluesabre> #chair pleia2

 15:01 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre pleia2

 15:01 <bluesabre> knome can't make it, or elfy, micahg, and probably ochosi

 15:02 <bluesabre> so this will probably be a short meeting at best

 15:02 * pleia2 nods

 15:03 <bluesabre> pleia2, do you want to lead the meeting, this is new to me :D

 15:03 * pleia2 just woke up

 15:03 <pleia2> :)

 15:03 <bluesabre> I can just paste the things knome usually posts :)

 15:03 * pleia2 opens last meeting log

 15:04 <bluesabre> #topic Items carried on

 15:04 <bluesabre> #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting

 15:04 <bluesabre> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings#Xubuntu.2BAC8-Meetings.2BAC8-Archive.2BAC8-Minutes.2BAC8-2013-07-11.Action_items.2C_by_person

 15:04 <pleia2> I had one with gridcube to start social media stuff for the desktop wallpaper submissions

 15:04 <pleia2> but I haven't heard from him about that yet

 15:05 <bluesabre> cool, its been neat to see progress on that stuff :)

 15:05 <bluesabre> #info A new app for setting user profile image and details: Mugshot

 15:05 <bluesabre> #link https://launchpad.net/mugshot

 15:06 <bluesabre> with a daily ppa:

 15:06 <bluesabre> #link https://launchpad.net/~mugshot-dev/+archive/daily

 15:06 <bluesabre> and screenshots:

 15:06 <bluesabre> #link http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887544/

 15:07 <bluesabre> Do we want something like this in xubuntu?

 15:07 <pleia2> #action pleia2 and GridCube prepare the social media broadcasting for desktop showcase

 15:07 * meetingology pleia2 and GridCube prepare the social media broadcasting for desktop showcase

 15:08 <pleia2> so the installer used to have (still has?) the thing where it takes your picture

 15:08 <pleia2> is that what this is meant to address?

 15:08 <bluesabre> yeah, but there is no way to change it after you install

 15:08 <pleia2> ah, gotcha

 15:08 <bluesabre> and since lightdm-gtk-greeter now supports and shows user profile images, it makes it easy to change that

 15:09 <pleia2> I think it's a good idea

 15:09 <pleia2> even chromeos has one, and it's barely got anything :)

 15:09 <bluesabre> :D

 15:10 <bluesabre> #action bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot

 15:10 * meetingology bluesabre to discuss with team possible inclusion of mugshot

 15:10 <bluesabre> since nobody is here :D

 15:11 <pleia2> yeah :)

 15:11 <bluesabre> #action bluesabre to possibly coordinate testing mugshot with elfy

 15:11 * meetingology bluesabre to possibly coordinate testing mugshot with elfy

 15:11 <lderan-work> :P

 15:12 <bluesabre> anything else for previous action items?

 15:13 <pleia2> seems like that's it

 15:13 <bluesabre> #topic Team updates

 15:13 <bluesabre> other than mugshot, nothing new from me since last week

 15:13 <bluesabre> ochosi has been working on a new alt-tab switcher update for 4.12

 15:13 <pleia2> #info We now have stickers available for shipment worldwide via Unixstickers.com

 15:13 <pleia2> #link http://www.unixstickers.com/xubuntu

 15:14 <bluesabre> yay!

 15:14 <pleia2> they've been awesome :)

 15:14 <bluesabre> I'll order some when I get paid tomorrow

 15:14 <pleia2> in return they'll be sending me stickers every so often (usually they do profit sharing, but it's difficult for us to accept)

 15:14 <pleia2> so sticker sharing!

 15:15 <bluesabre> thats pretty awesome

 15:15 <bluesabre> #info ochosi has been working on a new alt-tab switcher update for 4.12

 15:16 <bluesabre> and I don't know what anyone else has been up to

 15:16 <pleia2> #info knome has been working on some theme improvements to xubuntu.org

 15:16 <bluesabre> thats exciting

 15:16 <pleia2> #info we're launching our "Xubuntu at..." series of interviews with orgs using Xubuntu tomorrow

 15:17 <pleia2> if anyone has suggestions on orgs to interview, let me know :)

 15:17 <lderan-work> ooo that is cool

 15:18 <bluesabre> I'll probably bug folks on g+ about that

 15:18 <bluesabre> anything else?  did we talk about the SRU docs update at the last meeting?

 15:19 <pleia2> oh

 15:20 <pleia2> yeah we did, I did a call for writing them

 15:20 <bluesabre> cool

 15:20 <pleia2> #info jjfrv8 has been doing great work on the backport of 12.04 docs, we're on schedule to complete by Aug 1st

 15:20 <bluesabre> \o?

 15:20 <bluesabre> \o/

 15:21 <bluesabre> ready to move to announcements?

 15:21 <slickymaster_> pleia2, sorry if it's off-topic, but in the last meeting it was decided, regarding the Mir tests in a VM setup to report any bugs/crashes to you. How do we do that, through the mailing list?

 15:22 <pleia2> slickymaster_: so we've already finished that - collecting info was for a report sent to the list and Jono to get some eyeballs of a Mir developer on it

 15:22 <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-July/009101.html

 15:23 <pleia2> unfortunately we haven't heard anything back yet :( so for now I think testing is paused until we can get some kind of feedback on how to move forwards

 15:23 <pleia2> -s

 15:23 <slickymaster_> pleia2, OK. Thanks, anyway

 15:24 <slickymaster_> pleia2, yes and the clock is ticking

 15:24 <pleia2> slickymaster_: thank you though! your efforts will be valuable in the very near future :)

 15:24 <pleia2> I should probably follow up with Unit193's email, it's been almost a week

 15:24 <pleia2> #action pleia2 to follow up with Mir email asking for an update

 15:24 * meetingology pleia2 to follow up with Mir email asking for an update

 15:24 <slickymaster_> pleia2, you're welcome

 15:25 <bluesabre> anything else for team updates?

 15:26 <pleia2> I think that's it :)

 15:26 <bluesabre> #topic Announcements

 15:26 <bluesabre> anything to add here?

 15:27 <pleia2> nothing from me

 15:28 <bluesabre> me either

 15:28 <lderan-work> same

 15:29 <bluesabre> moving on...

 15:29 <bluesabre> #topic New and emerging items

 15:29 <bluesabre> #subtopic Proposal for more structured handling of Xubuntu bugs

 15:29 <bluesabre> I figured this one is postponed until next meeting

 15:30 <pleia2> skellat: sent a note to the list

 15:30 <pleia2> but now I can't find it in the archives O_o

 15:31 <pleia2> I think something changed with mailing list archives, they used to show up pretty much immediately but now they're lagged a lot

 15:31 <pleia2> I'll pastebin it for now

 15:32 <pleia2> #link http://paste.ubuntu.com/5887901/

 15:32 <pleia2> so I *think* what he means is that we shouldn't have our own bug team, but instead maybe just convince more folks to look at joining bug squad?

 15:33 <bluesabre> that's what I get from it as well

 15:33 <lderan-work> indeed

 15:33 <bluesabre> is the bug squad bug finders or bug fixers?

 15:34 <bluesabre> (or bug makers)

 15:34 <lderan-work> think they are bug fixers

 15:35 <pleia2> triage and possibly

 15:35 <lderan-work> triagers of the bugs?

 15:35 <pleia2> I think mostly keeping an eye out on what's there, bringing things to our attention

 15:35 <pleia2> lderan-work: yes

 15:35 <bluesabre> ah

 15:35 <slickymaster_> IMO, I think they have a wide scope, from bug finders to bug triagers and to bug fixers

 15:36 <pleia2> I think the trouble is now we have a big list of bugs, and only our devs are looking at them (and they have precious, valuable time :))

 15:36 <bluesabre> yeah

 15:36 <bluesabre> lots of bugs, few devs with fewer resources

 15:38 <bluesabre> anything else we want to add to this, or other new items?

 15:38 <pleia2> I'm done

 15:39 <bluesabre> #subtopic Schedule next meeting

 15:39 <bluesabre> pleia2: I leave this to you :)

 15:40 <pleia2> hah

 15:40 <pleia2> we should hold off on this until more folks are around :)

 15:40 <pleia2> and I'm not going to be here next week anyway

 15:40 <bluesabre> we can be cruel and schedule this for a time convenient to us in the US

 15:40 <pleia2> haha

 15:40 <pleia2> knome never sleeps, it'll be fine

 15:40 <bluesabre> lol

 15:41 <bluesabre> #nick team

 15:41 <bluesabre> #info team to schedule next meeting when more of the team is around

 15:41 <bluesabre> #endmeeting



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