#title #xubuntu-devel Meeting

Meeting started by pleia2 at 15:02:51 UTC.  The full logs are available
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== Meeting summary ==

 *Items carried on
''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2012-01-09   (pleia2, 15:05:12)
''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings   (GridCube, 15:07:24)
''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2013-01-10   (smartboyhw, 15:07:29)
Testing list sent to knome  (bluesabre_, 15:09:53)

 *Team updates
ARTWORK: i'm working on our icon-theme quite a bit lately, people can check the progress here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce  (ochosi, 15:19:53)
ARTWORK: people can test/use them in any of our releases (P,Q,R). i'll be soon trying to weed out useless icons and duplicates, so keeping the theme locally up-to-date to check whether icons go missing would be helpful testing for me  (ochosi, 15:20:57)
''ACTION:'' ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome  (ochosi, 15:21:25)
DOCUMENTATION: We're going to push the documentation SRU for 12.04 to the .3 release (this summer) instead of trying to get it in for .2 (which is coming up quick)  (pleia2, 15:23:28)
DOCUMENTATION: We still don't have a docs lead, so if there is anyone interested in pitching in on docs for 13.04, please do :)  (pleia2, 15:24:07)
WEBSITE: Opened a few bugs to update screenshots on the site, which I'm planning on completing this week  (pleia2, 15:24:33)
''ACTION:'' pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs  (pleia2, 15:24:49)
''LINK:'' http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-i18n/2013-January/008324.html   (GridCube, 15:31:48)

 *Announcements

 *Any other business
''ACTION:'' GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart  (pleia2, 15:42:16)



Meeting ended at 15:54:30 UTC.



== Votes ==




== Action items ==

 * ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome
 * pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs
 * GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart



== Action items, by person ==

 * GridCube
 ** GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart
 * knome
 ** ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome
 * ochosi
 ** ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome
 * pleia2
 ** pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs



== People present (lines said) ==

 * pleia2 (85)
 * GridCube (34)
 * ochosi (24)
 * bluesabre_ (16)
 * micahg (15)
 * mr_pouit (10)
 * frustratedtech (7)
 * meetingology (7)
 * olbi (2)
 * smartboyhw (2)
 * knome (0)
 * maddernick (0)



== Full Log ==


 15:02:51 <pleia2> #startmeeting

 15:02:51 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 24 15:02:51 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:02:52 <meetingology> 

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 15:03:04 <pleia2> #chair pleia2 knome ochosi maddernick

 15:03:04 <meetingology> Current chairs: knome maddernick ochosi pleia2

 15:03:05 <ochosi> maddernick: sounds good, ping and i'll test it

 15:03:18 <pleia2> #topic Items carried on

 15:03:50 <pleia2> ok, lets see here..

 15:05:12 <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2012-01-09

 15:05:40 <pleia2> GridCube: any update on your QA item?

 15:06:02 <GridCube> the qa was already released

 15:06:17 <GridCube> oh... no sorry

 15:06:23 <pleia2> GridCube: the tracker updates?

 15:06:25 <GridCube> i didnt knew i had tha item on me

 15:06:28 <pleia2> :)

 15:06:36 <GridCube> i though it was faq

 15:06:42 <GridCube> no, will see to it

 15:06:47 <pleia2> oops

 15:06:49 <pleia2> wrong year!

 15:06:51 <pleia2> haha

 15:07:09 <GridCube> XD

 15:07:22 <smartboyhw> Found the new one

 15:07:24 <GridCube> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings

 15:07:27 <pleia2> just clicked on the first january I saw on the archive page ;)

 15:07:29 <smartboyhw> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2013-01-10

 15:07:39 <GridCube> that makes more sense

 15:07:43 <pleia2> micahg: said he wouldn't be able to make it and knome isn't here yet

 15:07:52 <pleia2> my action item depends on knome's

 15:07:57 <pleia2> bluesabre_: you about?

 15:08:06 <bluesabre_> hey!

 15:08:15 <pleia2> smartboyhw: thanks, adding this link to the archives now

 15:09:08 <pleia2> bluesabre_: any update on you action items? (please use #info I always forget)

 15:09:53 <bluesabre_> #info Testing list sent to knome

 15:10:15 <bluesabre_> and I haven't done anything with yelp yet

 15:10:20 <bluesabre_> should I #info that?

 15:10:22 * micahg is actually here

 15:10:31 <pleia2> micahg: oh good, you're next ;)

 15:10:39 <pleia2> bluesabre_: nah

 15:11:04 <pleia2> bluesabre_: thanks!

 15:11:09 <pleia2> micahg: lots of action items for you last time, any updates? :)

 15:11:33 <micahg> I don't think so, let me check lie list

 15:11:40 <micahg> s/lie/the/

 15:12:27 <micahg> nope, the raring ISO grew another 1.5MB

 15:13:32 <pleia2> ok, thanks

 15:13:48 <micahg> I should have a little time this weekend, though not sure how much I can get through

 15:14:05 <pleia2> :)

 15:14:13 <micahg> I'll probably focus on ISO size if we have people willing to test

 15:14:20 <micahg> otherwise, I'd rather work on the build failures

 15:14:45 * pleia2 nods

 15:14:46 <micahg> or bugs that need fixing in 12.04.2

 15:14:58 <micahg> like exo helpers not working with Firefox apparmor enabled

 15:15:16 * GridCube opinion is that file size its not that relevant anymore

 15:15:57 <pleia2> ok, so I think we can poke around to see if there are testers about this weekend (I'd like to volunteer, but my weekend is packed this week)

 15:16:22 <pleia2> otherwise.. do the otherwise :)

 15:16:24 <micahg> even if we have testers, it's more if the ISO size makes a difference to the testers

 15:16:32 * pleia2 nods

 15:16:53 * micahg will brb

 15:17:05 <pleia2> #topic Team updates

 15:18:19 <pleia2> we adjusted the agenda a bit so we no longer are going through each team in a subtopic-y order

 15:18:29 <pleia2> (we'll see how this goes :))

 15:18:36 <ochosi> :)

 15:18:43 <pleia2> so anyone who has updates, you can just #info MARKETING: foo

 15:19:53 <ochosi> #info ARTWORK: i'm working on our icon-theme quite a bit lately, people can check the progress here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce

 15:20:01 <pleia2> \o/

 15:20:57 <ochosi> #info ARTWORK: people can test/use them in any of our releases (P,Q,R). i'll be soon trying to weed out useless icons and duplicates, so keeping the theme locally up-to-date to check whether icons go missing would be helpful testing for me

 15:21:16 <pleia2> ochosi: are there instructions for testing them somewhere?

 15:21:25 <ochosi> #action ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome

 15:21:25 * meetingology ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome

 15:21:31 <pleia2> :D

 15:21:51 <bluesabre_> knome is going to have a nice big blog post to write soon

 15:22:06 <ochosi> pleia2: well it's really simple, "cd ~/.icons && git clone https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce.git"

 15:22:11 <ochosi> and then "git pull" to update

 15:22:22 <pleia2> yep, that's simple :)

 15:22:29 <bluesabre_> and then the icon cache update, right?

 15:22:30 <ochosi> (possibly "mkdir .icons" as a first command ;))

 15:22:50 <ochosi> well, either i'll include that command in the instructions or i'll tell ppl to switch icon-themes back and forth

 15:23:01 * pleia2 nods

 15:23:28 <pleia2> #info DOCUMENTATION: We're going to push the documentation SRU for 12.04 to the .3 release (this summer) instead of trying to get it in for .2 (which is coming up quick)

 15:24:07 <pleia2> #info DOCUMENTATION: We still don't have a docs lead, so if there is anyone interested in pitching in on docs for 13.04, please do :)

 15:24:33 <pleia2> #info WEBSITE: Opened a few bugs to update screenshots on the site, which I'm planning on completing this week

 15:24:49 <pleia2> #action pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs

 15:24:49 * meetingology pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs

 15:25:59 <pleia2> any development updates?

 15:26:24 <pleia2> mr_pouit? :)

 15:26:43 <bluesabre_> People are testing parole and reporting bugs, and we're fixing them :)

 15:26:53 <ochosi> :)

 15:27:01 <bluesabre_> menulibre too :D

 15:27:04 <mr_pouit> Not much on my side, I only merged xfburn from debian I think

 15:27:18 <mr_pouit> yeah, bluesabre and ochosi are more active these days ;P

 15:27:25 <pleia2> :)

 15:27:53 <olbi> are you planning to add xfce 4.12 if it be released at march?

 15:28:17 <mr_pouit> we already have the latest thunar and exo in raring

 15:28:52 <GridCube> what about the weather plugin?

 15:28:53 <mr_pouit> Other components haven't been changed much for now, so I can't really tell

 15:28:55 <micahg> Feature Freeze is Mar 7 IIRC

 15:29:17 <micahg> I would think 4.12 would be targeted to 13.10

 15:29:19 <mr_pouit> GridCube: 0.8.2 in raring right now

 15:29:26 <ochosi> (btw, it's still another week to fosdem, but i might bring up the topic of a gtk3-compilable panel again there)

 15:29:44 <micahg> please, that would fix our indicator problem at least

 15:30:16 <GridCube> but 0.8.3 is to be released soon and it had lots of work apparently

 15:30:49 <mr_pouit> GridCube: if it's released before feature freeze, no problem really :)

 15:31:05 <GridCube> also, "Please note that 0.8.2 is actually unsupported because it's gradually falling apart, so better don't spend any more time on it.

 15:31:11 <mr_pouit> (panel plugins an other goodies have their own release schedule)

 15:31:14 <ochosi> i met hjudt for lunch today, i can motivate him to release it before ff ;)

 15:31:19 <mr_pouit> *and other

 15:31:48 <GridCube> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-i18n/2013-January/008324.html

 15:31:50 <ochosi> but i have to admit that it partly depends on me having enough time to complete the new icon-set for it

 15:33:33 <pleia2> ok, any other updates?

 15:34:30 <pleia2> #topic Announcements

 15:35:26 <pleia2> any announcements? :)

 15:35:55 <GridCube> not from me

 15:36:11 <bluesabre_> none from me

 15:36:28 <ochosi> same here

 15:37:16 <pleia2> ok

 15:37:21 <pleia2> #topic Any other business

 15:37:28 <pleia2> anything else at all?

 15:37:42 <pleia2> I'm thinking we do another meeting in 2 weeks, same bat time/place

 15:37:45 <GridCube> o/

 15:37:53 <bluesabre_> sounds good to me

 15:38:04 <GridCube> i have an idea

 15:38:09 <pleia2> GridCube: go for it

 15:38:10 <frustratedtech> I just want to chime in that I'm loving Xubuntu and I've been spending my sparetime trying to help others.  I just loaded up Xubuntu last week and am diving in full force. :D

 15:38:34 <bluesabre_> awesome

 15:38:36 <bluesabre_> :)

 15:38:44 <GridCube> what if we make a deviantart group for xubuntu users and ask them to submit screenshots and wallpapers and such

 15:39:06 <bluesabre_> I like this idea

 15:39:10 <ochosi> frustratedtech: if you wanna help the project in any are feel free to help with whatever you can

 15:39:24 <ochosi> yeah, dA is not a bad place for that

 15:39:28 <frustratedtech> GridCube, no offense to the xfce-look guy, but I cannot stand that website.  As a web designer I can't handle it nor send people there.

 15:39:29 <pleia2> I think the reason we didn't typically is they wouldn't be default on the CD (no space)

 15:39:55 <pleia2> but if we could get a volunteer to make a separate package for them installable later, and people are ok with non-default

 15:40:00 <ochosi> pleia2: yeah, but this can simply be a group (as in: collection), no strings attached

 15:40:34 <pleia2> screenshots are good too though, last cycle we thought about a "this is my Xubuntu" sort of page for the website to show off how people are changing it for their needs

 15:40:53 <GridCube> yes, but dA manages it better

 15:41:02 <ochosi> pleia2: yeah, we could maybe take a feed from dA for that

 15:41:10 <GridCube> we could make friends with the ubuntu-users group to

 15:41:18 <pleia2> ochosi: don't want an unmoderated feed

 15:41:25 <pleia2> people use crazy things as desktop backgrounds :x

 15:41:28 <ochosi> GridCube: do you wanna moderate the xubuntu-group on dA?

 15:41:29 <GridCube> it can be easily moderated

 15:41:29 <bluesabre_> lol

 15:41:30 <GridCube> i can do

 15:41:32 <GridCube> it

 15:41:45 <ochosi> pleia2: there you go ^ ;) (so it wouldn't be unmoderated)

 15:41:45 <pleia2> then maybe cherry-pick ones to put on the site directly?

 15:41:48 <pleia2> \o/

 15:41:50 <ochosi> yeah, why not

 15:41:57 <GridCube> sure

 15:42:00 <ochosi> GridCube: and remember, no naked ladies! ;)

 15:42:16 <pleia2> #action GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart

 15:42:16 * meetingology GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart

 15:42:16 <frustratedtech> Who is in charge of the overall design of the xubuntu website?

 15:42:17 <GridCube> o.o but... but... its deviantart

 15:42:30 <GridCube> ok no nakkid ladies

 15:42:34 <GridCube> :)

 15:42:38 <pleia2> yeah, have to keep it CoC-friendly if it's to be an official resource

 15:42:41 <pleia2> (no naked anyones)

 15:43:03 <pleia2> GridCube: can you also add me as a moderator? (we always have at least two for our social media-y things, in case of buses)

 15:43:06 <GridCube> will do, you can create a simple toc for the joining members

 15:43:12 <GridCube> sure pleia2

 15:43:23 <pleia2> (I won't actually do anything, just in case of emergency)

 15:43:28 * pleia2 checks if she has an account

 15:43:40 <mr_pouit> (no naked ringtail either)

 15:43:46 <ochosi> awwwh

 15:44:16 <pleia2> hehe

 15:44:45 <pleia2> thanks GridCube!

 15:44:48 <pleia2> anything else?

 15:44:51 <GridCube> :) no problem

 15:44:52 * micahg disappears for a while

 15:45:01 <bluesabre_> frustratedtech, the theme is a knome-original

 15:45:01 <olbi> bye all :) going home :]

 15:45:23 <pleia2> GridCube: didn't have an account, but now I do as pleia2!

 15:45:30 <GridCube> :)

 15:45:36 <frustratedtech> bluesabre, I wouldn't mind getting in touch with them to help it out.

 15:45:44 <pleia2> frustratedtech: yay, thanks!

 15:46:05 <pleia2> frustratedtech: re: website, I'm the website lead and knome is our designer and main webdev

 15:46:16 <pleia2> so knome is in charge of design

 15:46:54 <frustratedtech> pleia2, nice.  I've being doing design for 15 years so I'd love to help in some way.

 15:47:15 <ochosi> frustratedtech: if you wanna draw icons that'd be welcome ;)

 15:47:45 <pleia2> frustratedtech: fungi> i can help you get the user added for that when the time comes to start testing

 15:47:48 <pleia2> oops

 15:47:53 <GridCube> isnt the lightdm theme javascript/xml based?

 15:47:56 <pleia2> frustratedtech: https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website

 15:48:06 <pleia2> ^^ that's the code for the website

 15:48:16 <pleia2> and outstanding bugs under the "bugs" link

 15:48:24 <pleia2> it's wordpress

 15:49:06 <mr_pouit> GridCube: css I think (it's gtk3 theming)

 15:49:22 <frustratedtech> pleia2, ok.  get with me in private so I can help with getting these done.

 15:49:42 <pleia2> frustratedtech: can you drop me an email? lyz@ubuntu.com (right after this I'm off to work :))

 15:49:55 <frustratedtech> sure

 15:51:12 <GridCube> mr_pouit, mmmhm ok

 15:51:22 <pleia2> ok, anything else before we wrap up?

 15:51:58 <GridCube> not from me

 15:52:24 <pleia2> ok, thanks for coming everyone, and it was nice to see some new faces!

 15:52:41 <bluesabre_> have fun at work pleia2

 15:52:56 <pleia2> always do :)

 15:53:35 <GridCube> pleia2, this is the most active ubuntu group on deviantART, http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/

 15:53:58 <pleia2> GridCube: yeah, I think that's the one doctormo moderates?

 15:54:09 <pleia2> yeah

 15:54:28 <pleia2> ok, we'll finish up then

 15:54:30 <pleia2> #endmeeting



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