#title #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu community meetings Meeting started by knome at 14:59:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-01-10-14.59.log.html . == Meeting summary == *Items carried on *Open action items from previous meeting (knome, 15:00:07) ''ACTION:'' knome to draft flyer looks (knome, 15:00:21) *Team updates *Development (knome, 15:01:44) parole 0.4.0 released, looking for testers (not enough bugs logged on it) (bluesabre_, 15:03:31) mr_pouit has gotten newer versions of various components into raring (micahg, 15:03:53) i386 ISO is CD size again (minus fr langpacks) (micahg, 15:04:08) micahg working on rebuild FTBFS failures, mostly related to multiarch python headers (micahg, 15:04:46) ''ACTION:'' micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) (micahg, 15:05:14) just for general information, the alpha2 is most probably going to be postponed by a few days (read ubuntu-release archives for more info) (knome, 15:06:05) ''ACTION:'' micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 (knome, 15:11:29) ''ACTION:'' micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 (micahg, 15:11:30) ''ACTION:'' micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds (micahg, 15:11:55) we'll see how the python-port list looks like, then reconsider if we should consider dropping langpacks (knome, 15:12:47) *Quality Assurance (knome, 15:14:29) ''ACTION:'' micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl (knome, 15:18:01) ''ACTION:'' knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 (knome, 15:18:41) ''ACTION:'' bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects (knome, 15:18:53) parole 0.4 is out and available in raring, lots of new features and fixes, testers needed (bluesabre_, 15:19:09) we will do some specific cadence testing before a2 (knome, 15:19:20) when a2 is out, we will do more of more general cadence testing (knome, 15:19:53) ''ACTION:'' knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing (knome, 15:20:35) *Marketing, Promotion and Artwork (knome, 15:21:43) ''ACTION:'' pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML (knome, 15:22:08) we contacted the identi.ca xubuntu group and will be co-admins of that soon (knome, 15:22:35) knome is seriously considering of ordering one more xubuntu t-shirt for testing quality etc (knome, 15:26:12) we have someone working on updated screenshots for the website for 12.10 (better late than never!) (pleia2, 15:28:14) as always, we could use more team members contributing blog posts, you know where to find me :) (pleia2, 15:28:45) ''ACTION:'' team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community (knome, 15:29:08) if you write about xubuntu (development) on your blog, it's possible to tweet about that @Xubuntu (knome, 15:30:21) or, if you're on twitter yourself, we can retweet too.. (knome, 15:31:17) knome has been retweeting some nice comments for @Xubuntu anyway (knome, 15:31:41) *Documentation, Website (knome, 15:31:56) ''LINK:'' https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-docs (pleia2, 15:32:38) ''ACTION:'' bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff (knome, 15:34:31) *General updates (knome, 15:35:44) ''ACTION:'' team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things (knome, 15:40:02) ''ACTION:'' team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad (knome, 15:42:57) *Announcements *Changes of positions on the Xubuntu team (knome, 15:43:20) elfy dropped a line that he can't help in the R cycle; knome will take over the QA-related stuff (again) (knome, 15:43:40) The term for XPL ends at the end of this cycle (knome, 15:44:00) Since we changed the Strategy Document, the next term will only be 2 (two) releases, since the term is designed to end with an LTS release. (knome, 15:44:32) We will be voting on extending the current XPL's term at the end of the cycle; if not extended, a new XPL will serve for two cycles (knome, 15:45:18) the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda (pleia2, 15:50:38) *New and emerging items *Serbian translation for Xfce 4.10 (knome, 15:51:06) *Discuss changing Xfce translations to a langpack system similar to KDE (makes it easier to update translations post release) (knome, 15:52:14) ''ACTION:'' micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack (micahg, 16:09:05) *Schedule next meeting (knome, 16:10:48) Next Xubuntu community meeting: Jan 24, 15 UTC @#xubuntu-devel (knome, 16:15:06) Meeting ended at 16:15:12 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * knome to draft flyer looks * micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) * micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 * micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 * micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds * micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl * knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 * bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects * knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing * pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML * team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community * bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff * team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things * team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad * micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack == Action items, by person == * bluesabre_ ** bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects ** bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff * knome ** knome to draft flyer looks ** knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 ** knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing ** pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML * micahg ** micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) ** micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 ** micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 ** micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds ** micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl ** micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack * pleia2 ** pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML * team ** micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl ** knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing ** team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community ** team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things ** team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad == People present (lines said) == * knome (195) * micahg (70) * pleia2 (29) * bluesabre_ (21) * meetingology (19) * mr_pouit (15) * maddernick (1) * jjfrv8 (1) * team (0) == Full Log == 14:59:39 #startmeeting Xubuntu community meetings 14:59:39 Meeting started Thu Jan 10 14:59:39 2013 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:59:39 14:59:39 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:59:54 #topic Items carried on 15:00:07 #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting 15:00:21 #action knome to draft flyer looks 15:00:21 * meetingology knome to draft flyer looks 15:00:26 not happened. 15:00:34 #chair pleia2 15:00:34 Current chairs: knome pleia2 15:00:39 so, who's here for the meeting? 15:00:47 me 15:00:47 o/ 15:00:49 raise your hands or sth so you'll get logged 15:01:09 me 15:01:11 o/ 15:01:26 ok, great 15:01:32 micahg, dingdong 15:01:34 o/ 15:01:38 #topic Team updates 15:01:40 hey jjfrv8 :) 15:01:44 #subtopic Development 15:01:50 hi 15:01:51 micahg, mr_pouit 15:02:12 i suppose there's a few things that has happened since the start of the R cycle 15:03:02 ....and we all can still use #action and #info. :) 15:03:31 #info parole 0.4.0 released, looking for testers (not enough bugs logged on it) 15:03:53 #info mr_pouit has gotten newer versions of various components into raring 15:03:57 i'll talk a bit more about testing later 15:04:08 #info i386 ISO is CD size again (minus fr langpacks) 15:04:10 but parole getting forward is a good idea! 15:04:24 err, s/idea/news/ :) 15:04:46 #info micahg working on rebuild FTBFS failures, mostly related to multiarch python headers 15:05:14 #action micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) 15:05:14 * meetingology micahg to attempt to make amd64 ISO CD size by alpha2 (useful for its timing, but we're not shipping it) 15:05:43 questions or comments? 15:06:05 #info just for general information, the alpha2 is most probably going to be postponed by a few days (read ubuntu-release archives for more info) 15:06:32 micahg, is there something that's building up the iso size by a lot again? 15:06:42 and/or can we expect something like that 15:06:55 idk, I'd have to compare the manifest from quantal to raring 15:07:07 but we didn't go over by much anyway? 15:07:10 we can expect it to increase over time due to new core system deps 15:07:19 amd64 is only 10MB over 15:07:37 is there any hopes of getting python2 or sth else big dropped this cycle? 15:07:46 doubtful 15:07:52 I should have a python3 catfish in the coming weeks 15:08:03 ..and/or should we seriously talk about (dropping) langpacks in the next weeks? 15:08:07 I don't think I'm in a position to do massive python3 porting 15:08:36 es zh-hans xh pt is all that's left 15:08:46 we can drop es or pt and probably be CD sized now 15:08:53 i don't think anybody should take that responsibility alone 15:08:57 or very close toit 15:09:07 do we have a general idea what needs to be ported from python2? 15:09:25 do you think it would make sense to list those, and try to get some people to work on it? 15:09:45 we've had quite many people interested in helping with xubuntu lately (don't know how many are familiar with python) 15:10:03 that could create some positive momentum if we had something to point the people to 15:10:25 I could probably dig up a list, we could see if any of the upstreams of those components have ported to python3 15:10:46 so would you be willing to take an official action item for that? 15:10:47 ;) 15:11:00 to get the list, sure 15:11:16 I look forward to seeing that list :) 15:11:29 #action micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 15:11:29 * meetingology micahg to create a list of things that needs porting from python2 to python3 15:11:30 #action micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 15:11:30 * meetingology micahg to get list of packages in Xubuntu using python2 15:11:32 hehe 15:11:35 well... 15:11:41 some reminders. 15:11:55 #action micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds 15:11:55 * meetingology micahg to finish fixing FTBFS failures found in the rebuilds 15:12:47 #info we'll see how the python-port list looks like, then reconsider if we should consider dropping langpacks 15:12:52 anything else? 15:13:09 mmh 15:13:22 i don't think that there's anything at this point 15:13:34 we only have 1 webkit, but 2 GTKs and 2 python2 15:13:36 *pythons 15:13:40 yeah 15:14:02 i don't think dropping gtk2 is realistic any time soon, that's why i started poking on the python side 15:14:11 (don't get that wrong...) 15:14:13 surely not until Xfce is ported 15:14:15 anyway 15:14:20 thanks micahg :) 15:14:29 #subtopic Quality Assurance 15:14:43 * micahg wants to drop tcl.. 15:14:55 what's blocking? 15:15:08 it's a recommends of xchat, but that only gets up half way 15:15:12 *us 15:15:21 nothing else is keeping that in? 15:17:11 I think so 15:17:15 ok 15:18:01 #action micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl 15:18:01 * meetingology micahg to see if anything else than xchat is keeping tcl in (recommends for xchat), team investigates possibility to drop tcl 15:18:07 #nick team 15:18:16 so QA 15:18:41 #action knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 15:18:41 * meetingology knome gathers a list of things we want to test before alpha2 15:18:53 #action bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects 15:18:53 * meetingology bluesabre_ lists things he wants tested in his projects 15:19:09 #info parole 0.4 is out and available in raring, lots of new features and fixes, testers needed 15:19:20 #info we will do some specific cadence testing before a2 15:19:53 #info when a2 is out, we will do more of more general cadence testing 15:20:35 #action knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing 15:20:35 * meetingology knome will send more information on the ML, team shouts out in social media etc. for anybody to help with testing 15:20:49 is there anything else in QA? 15:20:58 questions about testing for R or sth? 15:21:06 do we want to do another blog post about testing? 15:21:14 (haven't had a post in a while) 15:21:15 pleia2, yes. 15:21:32 i'll switch the subtopic quickly. 15:21:34 ok, you can action me to draft it after you've sent the mailing list info 15:21:43 #subtopic Marketing, Promotion and Artwork 15:21:45 er, info to mailing list 15:22:08 #action pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML 15:22:08 * meetingology pleia2 drafts a new blog article on testing after knome has sent information on testing to ML 15:22:35 #info we contacted the identi.ca xubuntu group and will be co-admins of that soon 15:22:45 yay! 15:22:48 (hopefully :)) 15:22:50 yeah. 15:23:02 but no reason why not, if people look at their email 15:23:16 is there some other social media outlets we should be on? 15:23:38 i'm not proposing to create anything new, but see if there's something existing we can make official, like the G+ page 15:23:41 diaspora (lol) 15:23:50 well, we are on facebook.. 15:24:05 I haven't seen anything pop up lately 15:24:08 does anybody in the team have a diaspora account, or how does that stuff even work? :P 15:24:47 I have one, doesn't really work so well since its decentralized, and all it really seems to be is cat pictures 15:24:58 ok, so let's not go there 15:25:04 hehe 15:25:04 anything else on the subjects? 15:25:33 any new case badges or anything, pleia2? 15:25:41 oh 15:25:57 no new ones, still have a billion of the old ones :) 15:26:12 #info knome is seriously considering of ordering one more xubuntu t-shirt for testing quality etc 15:26:23 \o/ 15:26:31 pleia2, seriously? i've almost given all of mine away.. 15:26:46 and i don't go into LUG's, see people, or anything like that! 15:26:50 :P 15:26:58 I ordered a lot :) 15:27:01 100? 15:27:07 or you did another batch? 15:27:13 still the 100 15:27:14 ok 15:27:29 holidays here make everyone disappear from events and I've been busy ;) 15:27:34 heh 15:27:35 right 15:27:55 it's the boring general weekday life that does it here 15:28:14 #info we have someone working on updated screenshots for the website for 12.10 (better late than never!) 15:28:15 anyway, any other things on m/p/a? 15:28:18 ooh! 15:28:45 #info as always, we could use more team members contributing blog posts, you know where to find me :) 15:29:08 #action team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community 15:29:08 * meetingology team should work more on listing low-hanging fruit for new contributors to grow the community 15:29:24 I think that's it for mpa 15:29:43 i've been blogging quite a lot about xubuntu'ish things on my blog and tweeting them with the xubuntu account 15:30:21 #info if you write about xubuntu (development) on your blog, it's possible to tweet about that @Xubuntu 15:30:47 I always write a xubuntu review post a few days following release, I'll keep that in mind. 15:30:58 yup, just remind us 15:31:17 #info or, if you're on twitter yourself, we can retweet too.. 15:31:41 #info knome has been retweeting some nice comments for @Xubuntu anyway 15:31:47 :) 15:31:56 #subtopic Documentation, Website 15:32:01 anything on this? 15:32:12 well, the note about somebody working on the screenshots 15:32:30 knome, you mentioned considering moving the help documents to yelp at one point 15:32:31 am i failing on the categoriing again? :) 15:32:32 +z 15:32:38 #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-r-xubuntu-docs 15:32:50 bluesabre_, right. we should talk about that in #ubuntu-docs 15:32:56 bluesabre_, somebody there suggested that 15:33:03 ah 15:33:23 for being able to have translations and stuff 15:33:39 bluesabre_, you interested in finding out more about that? 15:33:59 I might be able to help. I've done some stuff with mallard 15:34:04 mh 15:34:31 #action bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff 15:34:31 * meetingology bluesabre_ to investigate moving to yelp with docs to enable translations and stuff 15:34:57 anything else? 15:35:32 brb 15:35:38 ok, probably not 15:35:44 #subtopic General updates 15:35:46 anything else? 15:36:08 are we having a default apps discussion at all? 15:36:17 micahg, hurrrr 15:36:39 micahg, if you *really* want to :) 15:36:43 i mean 15:36:43 the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda 15:36:50 consider this your invite :) 15:37:15 I'll remind on the day too, 7 days a 1.5 hrs from now 15:37:18 pleia2, can i consider that as an invite, or should i consider that as a must since i asked for that? 15:37:21 ;) 15:37:26 back 15:37:28 :) 15:37:39 mousepad 15:37:40 no, I'd rather not, but maybe there's something we're shipping that's not worthwhile 15:38:08 so that's more about "dropping things we don't need" than "default applications" talk 15:38:22 with def apps i'm thinking about somebody wanting to *replace* something 15:38:43 i think mousepad is a good proposal though 15:39:10 i mean, in the sense that it's a good proposal to look at it, not taking any side if it's good to include or not (yet) 15:39:26 I think it should be considered 15:39:39 micahg, let's schedule some time later to look at the seed togheter 15:39:42 Its minimalistic, but can actually be used for development 15:39:42 *together 15:40:02 #action team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things 15:40:02 * meetingology team to schedule some time to look at the seed and consider dropping unneded things 15:40:27 bluesabre_, leafpad is too, and i suppose that's what you're proposing to replace, so no problem with that. 15:40:30 bluesabre: we switched to leafpad in oneiric to get rid of xfprint4 15:40:44 i there still that dep? 15:40:54 no 15:41:09 in mousepad i mean 15:41:16 no 15:41:23 ok, then np from my POV 15:42:06 if we move back to mousepad, i'm wondering if we should create a symlink for leafpad since many people have learnt *that* now 15:42:09 like me. 15:42:15 mousepad is a bit bigger 15:42:25 define "a bit" 15:42:30 1 byte? 15:42:30 100k 15:42:35 with a few more deps 15:42:40 mmh 15:42:46 let's consider that 15:42:51 * micahg wonders why an editor needs a dep on dbus 15:42:57 #action team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad 15:42:57 * meetingology team to consider switching leafpad to mousepad 15:42:57 heh 15:43:12 #topic Announcements 15:43:20 #subtopic Changes of positions on the Xubuntu team 15:43:40 #info elfy dropped a line that he can't help in the R cycle; knome will take over the QA-related stuff (again) 15:44:00 #info The term for XPL ends at the end of this cycle 15:44:32 #info Since we changed the Strategy Document, the next term will only be 2 (two) releases, since the term is designed to end with an LTS release. 15:45:18 #info We will be voting on extending the current XPL's term at the end of the cycle; if not extended, a new XPL will serve for two cycles 15:45:42 anything you want to ask? 15:45:45 why an extension instead of a new election? 15:45:56 well, you can consider that as a new election 15:45:59 or is the new term supposed to be 2 years? 15:46:07 * micahg supposes he should read the doc 15:46:13 i'm partly disqualified in this thing 15:46:17 it used to be 1,5 years 15:46:42 but that doesn't make sense because it doesn't allow long-term planning (because it doesn't always end with an LTS release) 15:46:50 so yes, the term is supposed to be 2 years 15:47:05 but this is the exception, because the overruling rule is that the term should end with an LTS release 15:47:07 ok, then extending your term to 2.5 years isn't unreasonable 15:47:32 no, but i'm completely okay with doing a vote, because i changed that thing in the SD myself 15:47:39 and i think we need to do one 15:47:49 knome: oh, I agree that it should be put to a vote :) 15:47:56 there's a slight possibility that i'm saying "i won't!" 15:48:23 and then you *have to* elect somebody else, like micahg or bluesabre_ 15:48:34 >:) 15:48:36 :P 15:48:40 or pleia2! 15:48:44 * micahg would vote for pleia2 15:48:45 noo 15:48:48 haha 15:48:50 hehe 15:48:58 I'd vote for not me 15:48:58 i suppose the SD says one must be willing to serve... ;) 15:49:09 if it doesn't, we should change that before voting... 15:49:13 lol 15:49:21 anyway, that's it for announcements 15:49:34 any other team leads have other announcements? 15:49:43 pleia2, maybe post the CC invite here with #info? 15:49:56 if it's still on your history 15:50:29 right 15:50:38 #info the Community Council has been meeting with teams this cycle, next Thursday (17th) it's Xubuntu's turn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda 15:50:42 thanks 15:50:53 #topic New and emerging items 15:51:06 #subtopic Serbian translation for Xfce 4.10 15:51:09 micahg? 15:51:16 what do you want to discuss 15:51:24 or is this something you should discuss with mr_pouit 15:52:14 #subtopic Discuss changing Xfce translations to a langpack system similar to KDE (makes it easier to update translations post release) 15:52:21 that's pretty much the same subject 15:52:42 sorry, got distracted 15:52:46 no problem 15:53:00 we can simply postpone these, if you need other people to discuss with 15:53:14 i'm completely ok with changing the system if that's easier for you 15:53:25 well, I'd like mr_pouit's opinion, but I think it might be worthwhile to switch to a Kubuntu style langpacks so that we can update the languages post release more easily 15:53:42 and i'm completely ok with getting the serbian translation in 13.04, and i'll help if i can 15:54:15 do we need to do that often / have we done that often / would we have needed to do that more often than we did? 15:54:30 idk that it's been done before since we don't have the option ATM 15:54:46 it has or hasn't been done before? :) 15:54:48 right now, we'd have to reupload everything with the languages in question 15:55:01 as opposed to one new langpack source 15:55:50 that doesn't help me understand it thoroughly... but as said, if it makes the maintaining (much) more easy, it's probably worth it 15:56:10 would you follow up about this with mr_pouit? 15:56:13 I think overall it does, it just will require a bit of work up front 15:56:34 (sorry for being late/silent) indeed, language packs are great, I'm still a bit skeptical about the lp/contributors' side. 15:56:39 yup, but maybe we could get other people to help, if there's some low-hanging fruit 15:56:52 mr_pouit: not for that reason, we wouldn't end up with LP stuff unless we asked 15:57:10 or set it up for that, it's more for post release updates from upstream 15:57:16 oh, great 15:58:10 so will you both/either of you take an action item for that? 15:58:13 :] 15:58:22 mr_pouit: so we can grab stuff like this and update it: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/af/ 15:59:17 or this for a better example: https://translations.xfce.org/projects/p/xfce/r/xfce-4-10/l/sr/ 15:59:21 micahg: yeah, if we can regularly sync .po from xfce-4.x branches, that's the best way 15:59:54 (I've done it once for nl.po when pjotr asked, but it's painful to patch each package) 15:59:58 I'd have to look at how Kubuntu does it 16:00:14 they have scripts to help and I think KDE upstream ships the languages separately 16:00:28 mr_pouit: do you think corsac would be open to doing this in Debian? 16:01:13 it might require patching the various xfce packages to not ship the po files (again, I have to see how Kubuntu handles this) 16:01:58 not sure he'll be happy about that (patch all packages I mean) 16:02:38 well, I would think we only want to ship 1 copy of the translations per app 16:03:58 ubuntu langpacks install somewhere else and use pkgstriptranslations I think, isn't it feasible as well 16:04:03 +? 16:04:11 (or only when rosetta/lp is involved?) 16:04:17 yeah, can be 16:06:08 so... will you take the needed action items for this? :) 16:06:39 ok 16:07:02 thanks 16:07:06 (I can, although I'm not sure I can give it too much time before february) 16:07:11 fine then, thanks :P 16:07:23 no problem 16:08:15 umm.. would you write the nice little poems yourself? :P 16:09:05 #action micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack 16:09:05 * meetingology micahg to research converting to a Kubuntu style per-language source langpack 16:09:19 do we need something else? 16:10:06 that depends on the success of the above 16:10:40 heh,ok 16:10:48 #subtopic Schedule next meeting 16:10:57 two weeks from now sound fine for everybody? 16:11:12 sure, are we participating in 12.04.2? 16:11:14 probably 16:11:18 micahg, why not? 16:11:18 yeah, that should work for me 16:11:42 isn't that today 16:11:48 well, do we have any work that needs to be done? 16:11:52 oh, kernelfreeze 16:11:54 i don't think so 16:12:01 it's Jan 31 16:12:02 at least i can't think anything from my head 16:12:06 we'll have a week 16:12:07 SRU freeze is next week 16:12:12 aha 16:12:23 it's not in the release schedule... for some weird reason 16:12:26 any urgen SRu pending? 16:12:42 well, I wanted to fix gvfs in thunar, but I ran into a dead end 16:13:00 and we wanted to port the docs to 12.04, but that's not happening for .2 16:13:11 micahg: the slow startup? 16:13:24 mr_pouit: no, failure due to transport endpoint 16:13:34 ah, that too 16:13:57 then I tried backporting later versions and had issues with that since the dependencies changed 16:14:02 I think this was fixed when mountpoints moved to /run/$user/... 16:14:09 (but not in precise) 16:14:36 so regardless, is meeting in 2 weeks ok? 16:14:41 i need to go... :) 16:14:43 that makes sense, they're no longer in an encrypted area 16:15:02 yes, makes sense 16:15:06 #info Next Xubuntu community meeting: Jan 24, 15 UTC @#xubuntu-devel 16:15:11 #endmeetings 16:15:12 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)