#title #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu Meeting started by charlie-tca at 22:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2011/xubuntu-devel.2011-09-25-22.00.log.html . == Meeting summary == *=== Old Business === ''ACTION:'' madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test (charlie-tca, 22:06:40) *=== Team updates === *==== Packaging & Development ==== (charlie-tca, 22:07:49) *==== Bug Triage & Testing ==== (charlie-tca, 22:15:13) *==== Website & Marketing ==== (charlie-tca, 22:17:40) *==== Artwork ==== (charlie-tca, 22:20:26) *=== Announcements === *=== Xubuntu Governance === *Nominations for Xubuntu Project Lead (charlie-tca, 22:23:45) *=== Any Other Business === ''LINK:'' http://gridcube.netii.net/test/XTCv2.html (GridCube, 22:41:38) Meeting ended at 22:48:06 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test == Action items, by person == * madnick ** madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test * micahg ** madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test == People present (lines said) == * charlie-tca (113) * GridCube (48) * knome (32) * madnick (11) * micahg (10) * mr_pouit (10) * meetingology (5) * pleia2 (3) * ubottu (2) * beardygnome (2) * Exio (1) == Full Log == 22:00:07 #startmeeting Xubuntu 22:00:07 Meeting started Sun Sep 25 22:00:07 2011 UTC. 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Please either wave (o/) or hello or something, so we count you as present. 22:02:09 \o/ 22:02:25 count me twice :P 22:02:40 sure 22:02:46 anyone else here? 22:02:49 hello 22:02:54 o/ 22:03:09 o/ 22:03:12 beardygnome: Hello kind sir 22:03:23 hi charlie-tca 22:03:25 #topic === Old Business === 22:03:37 sorry i'm a few mins late 22:03:54 No problem, the important thing is you are here. 22:03:56 * charlie-tca to get FFe filed for xubuntu-meta to add blueman to seeds - Carried Forward 22:04:01 micahg: status? 22:04:23 charlie-tca: I uploaded a new test version to my PPA, would like madnick to test if possible 22:04:39 He wants the information about it 22:04:53 madnick: did you follow? 22:04:58 yes, i can do that 22:05:07 I just couldnt find the stuff in the PPA i found on google 22:05:40 I believe that. Google probably is referring to out of date releases 22:05:51 madnick: huh? it's my PPA :) ppa:micahg/patch-test 22:06:00 oh 22:06:07 oh, yeah, that too 22:06:40 #action madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test 22:06:40 * meetingology madnick to test blueman in ppa:micahg/patch-test 22:07:04 We only got a few days left to get this in, and the release team knows we will want an FFe 22:07:29 thats good then 22:07:33 I will try it directly, if there is anything special to test, please tell me :) 22:07:33 #topic === Team updates === 22:07:49 #subtopic ==== Packaging & Development ==== 22:07:58 mr_pouit: I know you been busy this week 22:08:07 madnick: I have no idea, I think functional testing should be sufficient 22:08:07 o/ 22:08:11 hehe ;-) 22:08:35 GridCube: we will give mr_pouit a chance first, okay? 22:08:48 :) 22:08:53 fine by me :p 22:09:00 * New upstream bugfix releases uploaded: thunar 1.2.3, xfce4-panel 4.8.6, xfwm4 4.8.2, xfce4-utils 4.8.3, xfce4-settings 4.8.3, garcon 0.1.9 22:09:07 * micahg has been working on blueman (cf. "old business" topic) 22:09:31 (and I haven't forgotten about Bug #840094) 22:09:32 Launchpad bug 840094 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu Oneiric) "[xubuntu] There is no screen title" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840094 22:09:36 .. 22:09:52 Thank you very much for that work 22:10:01 Any questions for packaging and development? 22:10:22 GridCube: go ahead? 22:10:27 if we cannot change the lightdm skin in time, can we at least make it not PINK? like black or something? 22:11:12 I think it's hardcoded like that on i386 22:11:19 :( 22:11:21 no, it is difficult to get the color changed 22:11:22 (apparently it's not the same color on amd64?) 22:11:31 heh, no 22:11:40 Thankfully, it is a very nice blue 22:12:32 micahg: did you have anything to add to packaging and development? 22:12:58 just to point out something 22:13:13 bug 836208 is quite annoying for anyone w/more than one desktop installed 22:13:14 Launchpad bug 836208 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "On login to xubuntu session, starts nautilus which ruins desktop" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836208 22:13:35 Ouch 22:13:54 yes, that would be. another side-effect of adding Xubuntu to Ubuntu, I guess? 22:14:24 Not sure how we fix it, either, since Nautilus tends to take over pretty good now 22:15:04 See if I can push it to the Ubuntu devs and get someone working on it. 22:15:13 #subtopic ==== Bug Triage & Testing ==== 22:15:29 * A big thank you to everyone for helping get Beta2 out the door. We now have about three weeks left before the final release of Xubuntu 11.10. 22:16:12 We should have new images tomorrow. We will need to test them pretty good, since we haven't had any for a few days again. 22:16:51 mr_pouit is doing a lot better on bug triage than I am currently. 22:17:02 Thank you for doing that, mr_pouit 22:17:10 Any questions? 22:17:35 not from me 22:17:40 #subtopic ==== Website & Marketing ==== 22:17:46 pleia2: any updates? 22:18:13 knome: any updates? 22:18:15 o/ 22:18:26 go ahead 22:18:47 * GridCube reiterates his recomendation of Someone reviewing the top10 22:19:06 knome is working on moving content over to the testing site we have now 22:19:20 Yes, we have that moving to Old Business, GridCube 22:19:25 ok 22:19:26 so things are chugging along :) 22:19:29 :) .. then 22:19:37 pleia2: will we make it for the 11.10 release? 22:19:50 hopefully! 22:20:10 Thank you, pleia2 22:20:26 #subtopic ==== Artwork ==== 22:20:34 ochosi: Are you here today? 22:21:03 madnick: we have not given up on the idea of getting lightdm wallpaper changed yet, at least 22:21:12 good news :) 22:22:32 #topic === Announcements === 22:22:50 * The next meeting will be on Monday, 2011-10-03 at 19:00 UTC 22:22:52 * Important dates coming up: 22:22:54 * We are now in UI Freeze and Beta2 Freeze; archives will remain frozen until final release. 22:22:56 * 11.10 Final Freeze: September 29 22:22:58 * 11.10 Release Date: October 13, 2011 22:23:00 * We need to update the Team Reports this week. 22:23:03 Did I miss any announcements? 22:23:30 #topic === Xubuntu Governance === 22:23:45 #subtopic Nominations for Xubuntu Project Lead 22:23:47 huh (hey o/) 22:24:02 * Nominations for project lead are now open. 22:24:03 * Those wishing to nominate themselves or others should do so by email to either mailing list, or myself (charlie-tca@ubuntu.com). 22:24:05 * Nominations will close October 20, 2011, and the community election will be held at the meeting on October 23, 2011. If there are issues with this, please let us know between now and October 20. 22:24:09 Hello, knome 22:24:16 How goes the website change? 22:24:57 haven't had time to work on it (or any other FOSS project lately), but it's coming along. we have uploads working now, as well as better-looking permalinks 22:25:32 We have about three weeks to final release of Xubuntu 11.10. Will we make it? 22:26:05 yes, it should be a breeze to switch it to production, as it's only server-internal change now 22:26:46 Do you need any help? Is there anything anyone can do to make it happen? 22:27:35 i need to go through some content things with pleia2, but other than that, it's just an email to the IS 22:27:58 (or content with you, but i understand pleia2 is more aware of the transition stage of the new site than you are) 22:28:08 yup 22:28:13 yup 22:28:19 so no specific need on anything right now 22:28:21 That's great! 22:28:31 Thank you for working on it 22:28:36 just need to upload/insert the content and we're ready to go 22:28:39 actually 22:29:01 o/ 22:29:09 go ahead, GridCube 22:29:10 now that i said that, we need at least a small change on the css too, but i'm sure IS can work that out the same time we switch to production 22:29:51 oh, I know im being a bother here, but, knome where do you plan to place the top 10? and is it possible to have multiple translations of it enabled? 22:29:52 (it's not more than one-liner, and we can fix the rest later even if it should be more) 22:30:17 GridCube, either a page or a blog-post; translations will be available later 22:30:24 :) ok 22:30:27 Hopefully, IS doesn't need to much time to do things with this. They seem very responsive at this time. 22:30:28 page because then it would be dynamic 22:30:41 but blog-post maybe because it will become outdated anyway 22:30:42 agreed 22:30:53 but that's not something we need to decide now 22:31:13 with a page, we'd need to find out where to link it from 22:31:21 maybe the footer, or the help page 22:31:24 if it is blog-post, it will need re-writing on a regular basis. If it is a page, it can be re-written, but it could also be updated easier. 22:31:33 we can work on it every cycle, cant we? 22:31:45 That would be good 22:31:51 if it's a blog-post, we can just post a new one, and leave the old "top 10" to be attached to the release 22:32:00 eg. this one could be namely the "oneiric top 10" 22:32:10 update with the most asked stuff each release? 22:32:16 then just write a new one for O+1, and if we want, we can link to the old top 10's as well 22:32:28 I will add it to the release manager notes 22:32:30 if things change i guess 22:32:34 charlie-tca, yeah, and it's not a problem even if there was the same questions 22:32:50 we can always attach release-specific stuff into the blog posts 22:32:51 oh, screenshots? do you need any? 22:32:54 like, "don't do this" 22:32:58 right, but if it is in a blog-post, it usually isn't as visible all the time as a separate page 22:33:00 GridCube, you should ask pleia2 22:33:15 charlie-tca, we can link to blogposts too on the footer, if we want 22:33:39 charlie-tca, in addition to that, it would be visible in the most recent posts area while it's one of the newest posts 22:33:41 That would work, too 22:34:07 but as i said, we don't need to decide that now 22:34:15 we can decide once we're about to publish it 22:34:24 I just have issues with blog posts disappearing. I bookmark them when I think it is something I will refer back to, and many of them disappear within three to four months 22:34:35 :) its ok i just wanted to bother about that :P 22:34:46 charlie-tca, these won't. that's why we wanted the permalinks 22:34:47 Thank you for asking, GridCube 22:34:57 knome: Thank you for that! 22:35:05 charlie-tca, the link will be something like http://xubuntu.org/posts/2011/10/top-10-for-oneiric (iirc) 22:35:16 charlie-tca, and it will work almost eternally 22:35:25 Okay, you got that one then 22:35:49 If it don't disappear, I won't care which way we do it 22:36:05 #topic === Any Other Business === 22:36:20 Any one have anything they would like to discuss? 22:36:21 (yup. pages are http://xubuntu.org/page-name, but i don't want to add too much dynamic/outdating stuff there) 22:36:36 I agree with that. 22:36:48 o/ 22:36:51 o/ 22:36:52 o/ 22:36:58 Too many items would defeat having those available 22:37:03 madnick: go ahead 22:37:12 micahg: i want to talk to you after this, if you have time (about blueman) 22:37:28 sorry for getting offtopic 22:37:28 .. 22:38:06 Can't be offtopic here. 22:38:13 micahg: your turn 22:38:38 docs need a version bump (s/11.04/11.10), could you handle this mr_pouit ? 22:39:01 .. 22:39:27 okay 22:39:32 thanks 22:39:37 GridCube: Your turn now 22:39:42 ok 22:39:44 ;) 22:39:52 i've been working more on my interface 22:40:04 madnick, has given me a place on one of his servers 22:40:15 :) 22:40:16 so i can dump my stuff there when we need it 22:40:39 it can be configurated easily by an admin 22:40:57 and it can be used now, i only have to work on the search engine 22:41:08 link? 22:41:12 it should be ended by this week 22:41:14 yes: 22:41:15 for updating tests? 22:41:38 http://gridcube.netii.net/test/XTCv2.html 22:41:47 i could use help on making it pretty :P 22:42:10 I want to make the testers work harder. Please update both google docs and this new test interface this week. 22:42:30 Let's give it a good workout, so we know for sure it will do what we need. 22:42:32 i mean if we ever add it to something like testings.xubuntu.com it will look out of place 22:42:56 Yes, well, let's try anyway 22:43:01 :D awesome! 22:43:04 google docs is out of place too 22:43:09 :) 22:43:33 madnick: make sure the server is secure. We just made that public 22:43:33 i tried to make it in the same colors that the current page XD but my css is so bad 22:43:40 oh 22:43:48 no, that link is not madnicks 22:43:51 charlie-tca: its secure :) but thats not mine 22:43:58 oh-oh 22:44:04 i havent send anything there yet 22:44:11 That link will work to update the tests? 22:44:14 i don't want to mess thins up 22:44:17 yes 22:44:19 it will 22:44:31 okay. Let's give it a workout this week then 22:44:36 :) 22:44:37 ok 22:44:48 if all is okay i will send it to madnick's 22:44:53 Okay 22:45:08 Any questions about how to update testing this week? 22:45:33 Any other comments/discussions/anything? 22:45:50 Can I propose you to Project Leader charlie-tca? not because you just are the current one, but because i think you are doing a pretty good job at it, and I think that thats good :D 22:45:52 I do not currently show any nominations for Project Lead 22:46:00 Yes, you can 22:46:04 :D t 22:46:07 then i did 22:46:38 Email it to the xubuntu-devel mailing list, please 22:46:56 :) will do 22:46:59 I have to keep it official for the records 22:47:10 Anything else? 22:47:32 Let's make it good week ahead then! 22:47:56 Thank you all for participating in this meeting. It sure helps keep the project strong to have you here! 22:48:06 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)