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16:58:54 <Daniel0108> :D
16:59:01 <AndrewMC> OKay anyone here please say here
16:59:02 <AndrewMC> here
16:59:04 <Daniel0108> here
16:59:04 <BasicXP> here
16:59:06 <nisshh> here
16:59:07 <Mkaysi> New commands :O
16:59:08 <Mkaysi> here
16:59:08 <GTRsdk> here
16:59:23 <AndrewMC> #chair nisshh
16:59:23 <meetingology> Current chairs: AndrewMC nisshh
16:59:33 <philipballew> 0/ I raised my hand! im here!
16:59:38 <nisshh> ive got the power!
16:59:45 <nyuszika7h> Mkaysi: Hmmh?
16:59:46 <AndrewMC> #topic Team restructure
17:00:17 <AndrewMC> Okay if you would all take a moment to read http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4833020/UY-restructure.pdf so we can discuss it, that would be great
17:00:18 <nisshh> ok, so assuming everyone here as read that document
17:00:31 <AndrewMC> if not please do
17:00:42 <nisshh> :)
17:01:04 <AndrewMC> Any questions, comments, concerns about that?
17:01:07 <Unit193> Here
17:01:38 <nisshh> no one?
17:01:41 <BasicXP> Well, I'm not very sure that there is need for that at all then. Because how does youth differ from other Ubuntu users?
17:01:42 <GTRsdk> I don't think that is a good idea
17:01:55 <nisshh> spoke too soon :)
17:02:25 <BasicXP> It will be, basically, something like #ubuntu, but for a narrower audience. Do we really need that?
17:02:26 <AndrewMC> BasicXP: well we have diffrent ways we may use our PCs then adults
17:02:48 <BasicXP> such as?
17:03:00 <nisshh> i have to agree, i think the UBT focus team was a better option
17:03:10 <AndrewMC> BasicXP: gaming is one
17:03:25 <BasicXP> i don't think it's just youth that plays games, actually
17:03:29 <Mkaysi> But there is #ubuntu-gaming
17:03:38 <GTRsdk> AndrewMC: some adults play games, and some youth don't
17:03:49 <BasicXP> true
17:03:54 <AndrewMC> GTRsdk: I know im just saying that is one example
17:04:04 <philipballew> It looks good. Its interesting how with ubuntu irc channels there are so many for tech support and sometimes if that can be consolidated it helps. Sometimes if a user is younger he may feel intimadated to go to a channel with people not his or her age and therefor ubuntu-youth can therefor still provide tech support but the idea of the channel not being intended for tech support can help. we could say it is a channel in which you
17:04:04 <philipballew> can come to hang out with your fellow younger users and if you feel better getting support from them go for it. even though most of us give and take support from the begginers channel
17:04:34 <nisshh> well said philipballew
17:04:48 * BasicXP nods
17:04:50 <philipballew> look at what ubuntu women does
17:04:52 <AndrewMC> philipballew: Tech support can very well still happen here
17:05:00 <nisshh> its basically going to be a channel for youth to hang out, away from the older users
17:05:10 <philipballew> http://ubuntu-women.org/
17:05:12 <AndrewMC> We just dont have the man power, and I know personally I dont have the time, to be another BT
17:05:25 <philipballew> college takes my time as well
17:05:46 <AndrewMC> nisshh: Exactly, support can still be asked for, and given
17:05:51 <nisshh> yeah
17:05:57 <Unit193> Who will answer support questions? You do still need a little man power for that
17:05:57 <AndrewMC> Its going to be exactly what happens in this channel now
17:06:08 <AndrewMC> just written down on a wiki page
17:06:09 <nisshh> Unit193, anyone who wishes to
17:06:13 <philipballew> we shouldn't be the "main place" you go to for support just because your under a certain age
17:06:38 <philipballew> if i really want true good advice I would find someone older then me, but that is just my opinion
17:06:50 <Unit193> ^^ As there are less people that really know how to help
17:07:01 <nisshh> in many of the channels im in, we all give support selectively based on our areas of knowledge and such
17:07:06 <nisshh> the same could be done here
17:07:06 <nyuszika7h> When will the meeting start?
17:07:20 <AndrewMC> nyuszika7h: its happening now...
17:07:40 <nyuszika7h> afk
17:07:48 <nisshh> heh
17:07:56 <AndrewMC> Like I said what happens here now, is what I want it to stay like.
17:07:59 <nyuszika7h> I have to go :/
17:08:02 <philipballew> ubuntu youth seems to be a attempt to address the miniorty of youth in the linux world? is that a correct assumption?
17:08:13 <AndrewMC> philipballew: You could say that yes
17:08:19 <AndrewMC> and we do
17:08:44 <philipballew> because if that is true. then AndrewMC idea would be good as it can be a good place for youth to get to know other community members
17:09:08 <philipballew> possibly "get their foot into the door of joining the community"
17:09:14 <nisshh> exactly
17:09:30 <GTRsdk> youth should have contact with community members to get experience needed to become an Ubuntu member
17:09:30 <AndrewMC> philipballew: +1
17:09:47 <AndrewMC> GTRsdk: Thats what the BT does best with their mentoring system
17:09:49 <philipballew> i can help with that being a ubuntu member myself
17:10:03 <AndrewMC> Or liek philipballew just said someone here can help to
17:10:15 <AndrewMC> s/liek/like
17:10:27 <nisshh> also
17:10:40 <nisshh> young users may wish to find out about games and other such things
17:10:57 <AndrewMC> nisshh: Yep, we would be a pretty much anything (in reason) goes
17:10:57 <nisshh> which isnt a good thing to ask in many other #ubuntu namespace channels
17:11:09 <nisshh> because its offtopic for them
17:11:12 <nisshh> yes
17:11:37 <AndrewMC> +1
17:11:47 <BasicXP> i think it might be, basically, a starting point for youth. if you need help with games - first we'll try to help here, then if it doesn't work, redirect to #ubuntu-gaming
17:11:48 <philipballew> 0/ qUESTION
17:11:52 <AndrewMC> nisshh: just put the icing on the cake
17:11:58 <BasicXP> same with other topics
17:11:59 <AndrewMC> philipballew: fire away
17:12:02 <nisshh> yeah
17:12:08 <philipballew> what about that forms page I was asked by someone to man
17:12:19 <philipballew> all i do is accpect spammers to join now
17:12:28 <philipballew> that thing hasnt been used in days?
17:12:32 <nisshh> oh, the forum?
17:12:34 <AndrewMC> philipballew: I am not entirely sure Phill is going on abotu that, there is almost no use
17:12:46 <nisshh> yes
17:12:53 <nisshh> someone should chat to phill about it
17:13:03 <philipballew> I was thinking as he made me moderator or head man on it I was gonna see if i can get the entire form moved to ubuntuforms.com
17:13:16 <AndrewMC> philipballew: Ya that would be ideal
17:13:30 <nisshh> agreed
17:13:35 <AndrewMC> philipballew: Well lets stay on track here
17:13:40 <GTRsdk> I think learning about games and getting a game put onto the Ubuntu CD (or a derivative's CD) would help Ubuntu appeal to younger users, creating more team members, and more people interested in games
17:13:43 <AndrewMC> so all set to vote on the restructure?
17:13:46 <Mkaysi> I think that this channel might be a little more popular than the forum.
17:13:55 <philipballew> easier to maintain and me and whoever wants can be moderators on the section there
17:14:04 <AndrewMC> guys, hold on
17:14:11 <AndrewMC> well talk about that in a bit
17:14:13 <nisshh> GTRsdk, the problem with games is they take up a collosal amount of space
17:14:16 <philipballew> plus as more people are used to forms then irc it might attract new users more easily
17:14:23 <nisshh> so getting one on the CD is a no go
17:14:35 <AndrewMC> #vote AndrewMC's restructure plan to be implemented as described in http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4833020/UY-restructure.pdf
17:14:35 <meetingology> Please vote on: AndrewMC's restructure plan to be implemented as described in http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4833020/UY-restructure.pdf
17:14:35 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
17:14:37 <Mkaysi> About #ubuntu-gaming, that channel has only 2 humans and one ChanServ.
17:14:39 <AndrewMC> +1
17:14:39 <meetingology> +1 received from AndrewMC
17:14:44 <nisshh> +1
17:14:44 <meetingology> +1 received from nisshh
17:14:51 <Mkaysi> +1
17:14:51 <meetingology> +1 received from Mkaysi
17:14:57 <philipballew> +1
17:14:57 <meetingology> +1 received from philipballew
17:15:02 <BasicXP> +1
17:15:02 <meetingology> +1 received from BasicXP
17:15:51 <AndrewMC> voting ending....
17:16:02 <AndrewMC> #endvote
17:16:02 <meetingology> Voting ended on: AndrewMC's restructure plan to be implemented as described in http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4833020/UY-restructure.pdf
17:16:02 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
17:16:02 <meetingology> Motion carried
17:16:07 <GTRsdk> +1
17:16:25 <BasicXP> too late :)
17:16:29 <GTRsdk> yeah
17:16:37 <AndrewMC> OKay now philipballew we can talk about the forums
17:16:49 <AndrewMC> #topic Forums
17:17:02 <philipballew> people give there 2 cents!
17:17:11 <AndrewMC> I say we should move them to ubuntuforums.com
17:17:16 <nisshh> i agree
17:17:29 <GTRsdk> what are they currently at?
17:17:41 <AndrewMC> http://phillw.net/uy-forums.net/phpBB3/
17:17:50 <AndrewMC> or uy-forums.net
17:18:12 <BasicXP> definetely has to be moved
17:18:16 <AndrewMC> #vote to move the forums to ubuntuforums.com
17:18:16 <meetingology> Please vote on: to move the forums to ubuntuforums.com
17:18:16 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
17:18:18 <philipballew> can me and http://phillw.net/uy-forums.net/phpBB3/index.php
17:18:22 <BasicXP> +1
17:18:22 <meetingology> +1 received from BasicXP
17:18:24 <AndrewMC> +1
17:18:24 <meetingology> +1 received from AndrewMC
17:18:30 <philipballew> +1
17:18:30 <meetingology> +1 received from philipballew
17:18:33 <GTRsdk> +1
17:18:33 <meetingology> +1 received from GTRsdk
17:18:34 <Mkaysi> 0
17:18:34 <meetingology> 0 received from Mkaysi
17:18:44 <nisshh> +1
17:18:44 <meetingology> +1 received from nisshh
17:18:48 <AndrewMC> #endvote
17:18:48 <meetingology> Voting ended on: to move the forums to ubuntuforums.com
17:18:48 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
17:18:48 <meetingology> Motion carried
17:18:56 <AndrewMC> Okay philipballew you will head that up>
17:19:05 <AndrewMC> s/>/?
17:19:48 <philipballew> we need to still talk about how to do that. I will head it all up. but i think that it will end up maybe me and AndrewMC having go to the ubuntu forms counsel and ask
17:20:00 <AndrewMC> philipballew: Okay
17:20:03 <AndrewMC> let me know on that
17:20:22 <AndrewMC> We dont have to copy things over really, there is nothing of importance there
17:20:31 <philipballew> i can get back to you all in the next few weeks on that or whenever ntheir next meeting is and if i can find pgill anywhere
17:20:37 <philipballew> its true. there is not
17:20:59 <nisshh> anything else AndrewMC?
17:21:20 <AndrewMC> nisshh: not unless you have anything
17:21:30 <nisshh> nope
17:21:31 <AndrewMC> #toic Any other bisiness
17:21:34 <nisshh> that was it for me
17:21:37 <nisshh> heh
17:21:39 <AndrewMC> #topic Any other bisiness
17:21:39 <nisshh> typo
17:21:47 <AndrewMC> I know thats spelt wrong
17:21:59 <philipballew> spelnig is lame
17:22:01 <GTRsdk> AndrewMC: #topip Any other business
17:22:02 <AndrewMC> #vote on AndrewMC's bad spelling
17:22:02 <meetingology> Please vote on: on AndrewMC's bad spelling
17:22:02 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
17:22:06 <AndrewMC> haha
17:22:11 <philipballew> +1
17:22:11 <meetingology> +1 received from philipballew
17:22:15 <nisshh> +1
17:22:15 <meetingology> +1 received from nisshh
17:22:21 <AndrewMC> +1
17:22:21 <meetingology> +1 received from AndrewMC
17:22:21 <GTRsdk> +1
17:22:21 <meetingology> +1 received from GTRsdk
17:22:23 <philipballew> +5
17:22:24 <AndrewMC> #endvote
17:22:24 <meetingology> Voting ended on: on AndrewMC's bad spelling
17:22:24 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
17:22:24 <meetingology> Motion carried
17:22:24 <Mkaysi> +1
17:22:31 <AndrewMC> #endmeeting