#title #ubuntu-us-or: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda Meeting started by bkerensa_ at 03:12:49 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-or/2012/ubuntu-us-or.2012-01-09-03.12.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda (bkerensa_, 03:13:12) ''LINK:'' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU (MarkDude, 21:38:45) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda/20100518 (bkerensa, 16:31:33) ''LINK:'' http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Loco+Council+Meeting&iso=20120117T20&ah=1 (bkerensa, 16:51:39) ''LINK:'' http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ (nathwill, 20:53:45) ''LINK:'' http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC (bkerensa, 23:49:55) ''LINK:'' http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012 (albrigha, 02:14:55) ''LINK:'' http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex1.html (albrigha, 05:26:34) ''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/813513/ (bkerensa, 20:07:21) ''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/813517/ (bkerensa, 20:10:09) ''LINK:'' https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-games-33/cant-install-tux-a-quest-for-herring-%2Acry%2A-%5B-%2Asob%2A-make-problems-229483/ (bkerensa, 20:31:03) ''LINK:'' http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112097-linux-3-2-kernel-released-what-you-need-to-know (bkerensa, 07:13:59) ''LINK:'' http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/07/31/usa-wide-approved-locos-by-the-end-of-the-year-lets-do-it/ (bkerensa, 05:00:51) ''LINK:'' https://plus.google.com/photos/113030465347243519078/albums/5701734573192511473 (shirgall, 00:42:32) ''LINK:'' http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/nm0n0/working_for_canonical/ (bkerensa, 02:44:03) ''LINK:'' http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3360 (albrigha, 23:53:44) ''LINK:'' http://gotphoonline.com/ (bkerensa, 01:38:22) ''LINK:'' http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1520/detail/ (bkerensa, 01:44:15) ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda (bkerensa, 02:49:28) Meeting ended at 03:02:55 UTC. == Votes == == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * bkerensa (905) * c_smith (602) * albrigha (330) * MarkDude (156) * TRAVISg (131) * nath_will (70) * tgm4883 (66) * blkperl (63) * travisgonzales23 (49) * slangasek (39) * cweber10 (38) * shirgall (29) * jvlb (28) * Tgonza (27) * kees (27) * nibalizer (24) * sbeattie (22) * c_smith_ (17) * nathwill (15) * Brian_H (13) * jhmextern (11) * cprofitt (10) * dobry (9) * TRAVISg_ (9) * bkerensa_ (8) * dhrasmus (7) * CWeber10 (6) * Azendale (6) * kalosaurusrex (4) * meetingology (4) * shannonlucas (4) * markdude (3) * iBkerensa (3) * mustafaerhan (3) * zenlinux (3) * adam_g (2) * cpncook (2) * bkerensa_c (2) * ibkerensa (2) * goddard (2) * Bkerensa_ (2) * leofseige (2) * bkero (2) * Besba (1) * bkerensa__ (1) * xxx (1) * Budget (1) * lubotu1 (1) * Guest24463 (1) == Full Log == 03:12:49 #startmeeting https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda 03:12:49 Meeting started Mon Jan 9 03:12:49 2012 UTC. The chair is bkerensa_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 03:12:49 03:12:49 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 03:13:07 Hello all and welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon January 2012 meeting. Our agenda for this evening can be found here: 03:13:12 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda 03:13:15 Who all is present for today's meeting? 03:13:20 Eye 03:13:27 here 03:13:35 I know nathwill is here but he had to run and do something 03:13:51 hi 03:14:02 I, though, not a member. Just checking it out/lurking 03:14:10 excellent :) 03:14:21 hello, CWeber10, aren't you the one who was at the Hour yesterday? 03:14:29 yes 03:14:41 I'm here 03:14:47 Hello regulars and guests thank you for attending we will go ahead and proceed with the agenda and if you need to talk offtopic please join #ubuntu-us-or-offtopic 03:14:53 ok, then I'll probably ask you to help with one of the agenda items 03:15:29 c_smith can you paste the first agenda item 03:15:43 you got it.Discuss Spring GeekNic (http://geeknic.org/) 03:15:53 man, that formatting sucked. lol 03:16:34 do you need me to repaste it? 03:18:30 and bkerensa is gone. 03:20:44 haha 03:20:47 ok, so, I have no clue about the geeknic, 03:21:03 bkerensa has said he is having connection problems. 03:22:12 ok, while we're waiting... i got approval to host some team meetings on the yahoo campus 03:22:25 where is that? 03:23:01 any particular days work best for the folks who can reach hillsboro? (between beaverton and hills) 03:23:07 also, CWeber10 like I said, I am going to need to call on you for some points you pointed out to me Friday. 03:23:58 nath_will, a weekend for me, preferably Saturday, as I live in Salem, if I came, it'd need to be a weekend unless it's not a school week. 03:24:25 there's the man of the hour! :D 03:24:42 k, i'm leaning towards saturdays myself. welcome back bkerensa! 03:25:03 Comcast is having an outage 03:25:27 really? I have been having a bit of shaky internet until a while ago. 03:25:34 and I use Comcast myself. 03:25:46 Math will can you sit In for me 03:26:19 also, Bkerensa_ need me to repaste the item? 03:26:21 me? 03:26:29 nath_will, I believe so. 03:26:45 o dear 03:26:50 ok 03:26:52 yep, his internet is certainly acting up. 03:27:15 bkerensa, you were asking that to nath_will, correct? 03:28:15 Is it just me, or is this kind of dragging? 03:28:39 simply because the main speaker is having internet problems. 03:29:15 nath_will, I think you might consider taking up parts where bkerensa gets cut off. 03:29:46 I retract my last comment as I suddenly got hit with about 20 messages. Something must be up with the network. 03:30:04 it is, bkerensa is also getting hit by that. 03:30:30 bkerensa is getting D/Ced left and right. 03:30:34 I'm on CenturyLink , though. 03:30:46 hmmmmm, this might be weird. 03:31:05 >.< everyone seems to have the problem, 03:31:15 ofc, I might be wrong there. 03:31:19 Perhaps it's Freenode. 03:31:20 i'm fine :) 03:31:39 I'm comcast, in tanasbourne area. All seems good for me. 03:31:48 hmmmmm, well, somethings going on if it's happening to multiple people on multiple ISPs. 03:31:57 agreed 03:32:08 I myself am not experiencing this. 03:32:53 I'm on EONI in Eastern Oregon, and I'm staying connected just fine. 03:32:55 alrighty then... aside from a meeting @ yahoo! at yahoo ... 03:33:25 hi all... i seem to be suffering as well... though not as bad as mr kerensa... 03:33:42 nath_will, I have the agenda up, want me to paste the first item? 03:33:49 he gave me some info to relay, i'm. gonaa try to get it out quick... 03:34:01 k 03:34:05 cody, if i drop, please do. 03:34:10 k 03:34:15 Does the Yahoo! meeting have a particular goal? 03:34:18 ok. first thing. geeknic 03:34:56 heh. ok before i move on, i'll talk about the yaHoo mtng real quick 03:35:00 ok, I looked at the site, but could glean nothing as to what the Oregon Team would do. 03:35:09 for the Geeknic that is. 03:35:21 but the Yahoo meeting, go on. 03:36:11 ideally, this will be a series of increasingly technical discussions focusing on open source, and it's relation to enterprise, particular focus on web hosting 03:37:05 hmmmm, I wouldn't be able to be any help as to talks. 03:37:37 I know nothing about enterprise or server. 03:37:40 So, a LAMP implementation focus? 03:37:45 for the first meeting, it'll be a more broad outline of what constitutes free software, what some of the bigger floss projects are, and how to find resources to get started in exploring floss 03:38:09 kind of. it'll be a large subsection for sure 03:38:42 I'd be interested to learn about nginx too 03:38:51 hmmm, that's an area I'd listen to. 03:39:06 :) we can pput it on the agenda for sure 03:39:25 any other questions about the yahoo! meeting? 03:39:32 NoSQL seems hot, these days, as well. 03:39:35 I have one, 03:39:40 k 03:40:11 LAMP is stone age :) 03:40:19 would the first meeting be one that I could take a WIndows user to and try and show them some of the basic FLOSS advantages? 03:41:03 remember how quick enterprise is to adapt leofseige. apache's gonna continue to dominate for the next 5 yrs at least 03:41:10 yes cody 03:41:30 nath_will: i can't disagree with that 03:41:33 first meeting will very much be oriented to newcomers to foss 03:41:35 ok, that's an answer that really mught get me there. 03:42:01 hopefully it's on a day that I can get there on. 03:42:19 any other quick questions? 03:42:36 on the yahoo thing? 03:42:39 Will you update us on the mailing list? 03:42:45 fer sure 03:43:01 that includes dates, correct? 03:43:26 look for it in the next couple days, with specifics 03:43:57 okey doke then. 03:44:05 next item's geeknic 03:44:34 current item: Discuss Spring GeekNic (http://geeknic.org/) 03:44:38 geeknic folks say we're a go, though we'll need to take lead on supplies, setup, etc. 03:44:56 and where is this geeknic? 03:45:06 and what day? 03:45:09 ben said he's shooting for the june/july timeframe, right around oscon 03:45:21 ok, and Portland I assume? 03:45:34 pretty fair bet 03:45:55 ok, I hope I aint in Chemeketa at that time.... sounds fun, 03:46:16 ben can provide more detail on that if the location's a concern 03:46:31 How about CWeber10's comments? Would this be a time to explore that? 03:46:32 i didn't have time to get the full specs from him 03:46:37 I'll talk with Ben about that, then. 03:47:18 quick question regarding the team, though, who was the co-lead? 03:47:41 need to get that on the wiki later. 03:47:54 colead? i'm the asst team lead 03:48:09 ot sure who else is helping take point 03:48:14 *not 03:48:37 nath_will, are you the assistant team lead, or assistant to the team lead 03:48:47 ok, I'll be sure and add that to the wiki when the meeting is done. 03:48:47 cweber10, i'm sorry, did we miss a question? 03:48:49 lol 03:49:03 does it matter? 03:49:26 no 03:49:31 i help ben, and try to help out when we do stuff. ;) 03:49:51 and I try to help out where I can, myself. 03:50:13 :) 03:50:55 ok... i'm sorry, can someone reask cweber10's question? i seem to bhave missed it 03:51:39 I seem to have missed it, too 03:51:42 or comment... 03:51:47 likewise... 03:51:50 jvlb? 03:52:00 isn't showing up on my windows in search 03:52:11 You may be thrown off by my comment. I was experiencing a long lag and thought we were waiting for Ben. I getting the discussion in bursts. 03:52:34 hmmmmm, was it between me and cweber? 03:52:43 ok. can it wait for one more thing then? 03:53:00 if so, it was just me asking him to help with one of the agenda items. 03:53:05 last thing is werry werry important 03:53:31 I added a last item, myself. 03:53:43 Don't keep us guessing. 03:53:47 ok then... lol 03:54:00 current item: Discuss Conventions/Conferences for 2012 (Events we want to have a booth at) 03:54:18 Beer festival? 03:54:21 wednesday the 18th we are applying for official status as a recognized loco 03:54:48 are we not going in listed order? if so, I could copy that item in. 03:54:53 it will make a big difference if we have a presence. 03:55:06 What kind of presence? 03:55:09 nath_will, also, the last item you are seing is second to last. 03:55:19 csmith, i'm on my mobile, so checking the official list is impossible 03:55:41 ah, ok, so I'll copy each item, then. 03:55:49 Run with it. 03:56:10 i'll wrap up this one and then would u cover anything i missed? 03:56:22 ok 03:56:35 we have several items, so I'll just go down the list. 03:56:49 nath_will, you can use that as an agenda rundown, alright? 03:57:00 ok... so specific time and channel have been sent to the mailing list. a reminder will be sent the day of 03:57:37 and I myself may or may not be a couple of minutes late due to how it falls in my schedule. 03:57:38 Any idea the time of day? 03:57:39 if u can possibly make it, even just to say that ur attending to support oregon, it'd be awesome 03:57:58 jvlb, Noon. 03:58:08 not off the top of my head jvlb... csmith, do u have that? 03:58:13 aw perfect 03:58:46 aaalrighty, i've said all i have to say... csmith! take it away! 03:58:46 lol, I didn't even open the email, if you want, I could for double-checking. 03:59:09 ok, nath_will I may have to have you cover the items I don't know. 03:59:14 that sounds right to me. 03:59:19 because I'm going down the list. 03:59:26 k.. good deal 03:59:35 current item: Discuss Conventions/Conferences for 2012 (Events we want to have a booth at) 04:00:02 nath_will, I have no suggestions, as I know of no events in the Salem area that are concrete. 04:00:30 ok. i know we're looking to arrange travel to linux fest northwest 04:00:41 where would that be? 04:00:48 so a shuttle will probably be available to elp 04:00:56 it's in washington 04:01:01 Is that in Bellingham? 04:01:09 probably be a weekend thing 04:01:28 yes if i'm remembering correctly, jvlb 04:01:39 it is Bellingham, yes 04:01:46 Long drive. 04:01:59 probably pick up a passenger van for the weekend 04:02:04 april 28th and 29th 04:02:07 and it's not so bad 04:02:11 :) 04:02:32 cool. ty dobry 04:02:46 np 04:02:57 if there's a possibility of picking someone up in Salem, I'd offer to help. 04:03:08 other con is oscon of course, which is in pdx proper 04:03:41 with Linuxfest, that is. 04:03:50 c_smith, we'll look at the details starting next month. nothing solid right this sec for lfnw 04:03:55 ok 04:04:49 Once upon a time, they held UbuntuLive along with OSCON. 04:04:50 ok... oscon's obviously the big one. we're gonna do it up proper this year, too, as last year was a bit of a scramble 04:04:59 ubuntulive? 04:05:15 what's ubuntulive? 04:05:17 is that back? 04:05:58 UbuntuLive was a short-lived, Ubuntu-centric event in conjunction with OSCON. 04:06:23 It last was held 4 or 5 years ago. 04:06:25 looks like it, as the site says the last one was in '08. 04:07:10 There's one for our next Ubuntu trivia session. 04:08:19 hmmmm, well, if I have a way to get up to portland, I'll definitely at least try to attend OSCON even if it's not as part of Ubuntu Oregon. 04:09:22 a week long at Oregon Convention Center July 16-20 (Monday - Friday), FYI 04:09:28 In the past, Shuttleworth has been one of the keynotes. 04:11:23 hmmmm, interesting. 04:11:57 shall we move on to the next item? 04:12:25 Hey, I'm going to have to check out. Keep up the good work, without me. Later. 04:12:33 I think it may be a good item to bring the conventions up at another meeting when bkerensa can attend. 04:12:37 cya, jvlb 04:13:43 CWeber10, you still here? 04:14:01 Yea I actuly just got back, was distracted with RL 04:14:13 hmmm, ok 04:14:45 well, I'm just waiting on nathwill_ to get back, bkerensa had to leave due to connection problems. 04:15:05 we will need you to repeat some comments that jvlb saw. 04:16:11 hmm I not shure I can easyly. problem with ssh, screen, console apps, I don't always know how to go back with them 04:16:14 no-one else seemed to have seen them (not even me. 04:17:14 hmmmm, ok 04:17:41 well, like I said, I'll need to call upon you for an item at the end if the meeting doesn't sputter out before then. 04:20:17 CWeber10: Well, with screen you can do Ctrl-A and then press [ and it will let you scroll back 04:22:05 meh, the next item should be able to be covered by me, so I'll go ahead and cover it, I think we might be able to integrate the last item with it, too. 04:22:13 shall I go ahead? 04:24:46 sure not sure what I was looking for 04:25:09 ok 04:25:51 current item: Recognize Cody Smith's contributions with Salem Ubuntu Hour kickstarting and Discuss some points that were brought up to Cody Smith about Salem and Ubuntu Hours there and brainstorm some solutions to problems that were lain out to Cody Smith (the two items have been combined) 04:27:24 so, as CWeber10 (and possibly everyone here) knows, I have decided to have an Ubuntu Hour hour here in Salem, at Broadway Commons Coffeehouse, and CWeber10 has notified me, there were some flaws with that, 04:28:54 No flaws, just difficulties, Salem is not good at getting small nitch groups going. the salem Lug has tired to go at least two times that I know of and goes for about 3 meetings before falling apart. 04:29:32 ok, and I also had the issue of the group being too small, am I correct? 04:30:11 * c_smith hopes other people are still in the meeting. 04:30:45 if there is just us two, I'll have to get bkerensa to hold a second meeting this next week to finish it up. 04:30:58 no sense in having a meeting with just us two. 04:31:04 * tgm4883 is here 04:31:17 ok, and anyone else? 04:31:28 * c_smith acknowledges tgm4883 04:32:08 guess not, the meeting seems to have sputtered out. 04:32:32 I'm checking back every now and then. 04:32:34 and I have no clue as to how to write the meeting minutes. 04:33:34 i'm still lurking with interest, if it matters 04:33:48 so, I guess we'll have to end this meeting and I'll try to get in touch with bkerensa to see if we can get a second meeting to cover the topics that weren't discussed properly. which includes the current one. 04:34:07 I also have to go, anyway. 04:34:29 so, until next time, see you all. 04:35:12 OK, bye c_smith 04:55:43 finally Im back 07:01:56 blkperl: hmm, what were my choices of date? 07:06:02 slangasek: any date, preferably fridays at 4ish (30 - 45 mins), 07:07:42 bah, too many options 07:08:02 so let's tentatively aim for the 27th, I think 18:08:31 slangasek: great 18:08:48 * blkperl marks down jan 27th 18:09:33 * bkerensa tries to stay awake 18:10:09 * blkperl waves at bkero 18:10:16 im mean bkerensa 18:10:29 heh 18:10:31 hello 18:10:42 have to go out to NW Industrial Portland today :( 18:12:16 first day of school for me 18:12:23 or back to school 18:12:28 or winter term 18:14:34 hey, bkerensa, have you seen the email I sent yet? 18:14:59 c_smith: Yeah I saw it and will e-mail the list when I decide whats best on that 18:15:16 ok, just making sure the email didn't go AWOL. 18:15:24 :P 18:15:25 * bkerensa is likely going to go take a mini nap before I have to head out so I will ttyl :) 18:15:46 have fun. 18:16:06 * c_smith goes off to find his SC3KU disk 18:18:08 bkerensa, what is your plan for the geeknic? 18:18:22 JonathanD told me about your palns 18:19:06 MarkDude, bkerensa went off for a nap. 18:19:33 also, have you ever played Simcity 3000 Unlimited? 18:20:51 Well no 18:20:59 * MarkDude thinks that would be like crack 18:21:09 lol, old game, 18:21:11 * MarkDude has NEVER actually done crack 18:21:15 xDDDDD 18:21:29 that made your response even better. 18:21:33 Same reason I am not playing KOTR 18:21:43 ah, ok 18:21:53 Even tho I have not done crack, my analogy holds :) 18:21:59 yep. 18:22:26 Maybe I should arrange a field trip to get some crack for UDS 18:22:37 Would make for a great slideshow 18:23:05 xDDDDDD 18:23:37 now, let's see, I doubt you've played Dungeons of Dredmor...... 18:23:48 UDS, the crack and weed field trip 18:24:06 lol 18:24:15 I'm cracking up here. 18:24:32 hardest I've laughed at IRC in a good while. 18:26:46 lol 18:26:48 right on 18:27:08 Jono could write a song about the field trip 18:27:20 we could make promo video 18:28:57 rofl 18:29:32 hmmmm, Severed Fifth's new album is supposed to come out soon, better check the date. 18:30:20 course, Jono said it will probably be delayed at the last QA with him. 18:33:06 anyone here listen Severed Fifth at all? 18:36:39 Hell yes \m/ 18:36:50 Since Jono's first show 18:37:04 And his record release upcoming next month 18:42:37 I'd go to one of their shows if they came to Oregon, but Jono has said that the problem with that is they don't have the money to do that. 18:43:41 yep, the official release date WAS the 16 for sale and available for download afterward, but Jono has said it probably will be delayed. 09:02:45 hello sbeattie 09:02:47 :D 09:03:39 bkerensa: hey! 00:38:48 Hello all 04:28:44 hi 06:50:55 Besba: hi 07:18:07 Hi Besba 07:21:02 * bkerensa smacks thefinn93 07:22:38 * blkperl waves fist at slow webserver 07:22:55 or maybe comcast 20:57:45 slangasek: ping, see pm 20:59:07 MarkDude: Running into issues with approval app.... LoCo Council pinged me and want to know about events prior to April 2011 and problem is prior team leads didnt ever do team reports 20:59:08 =/ 20:59:17 no photos... no blog posts nothing 21:04:28 really prior to april 2011 21:04:30 ? 21:23:19 Hmmmm, give me abit 21:23:28 pics of events 21:23:35 This will be a blood bath 21:23:44 IF THE COUNCIL WQANTS ME INVOLVED 21:24:01 It will get really, really ugly 21:24:17 The Emperor wears no clothes 21:24:26 thats the documntation 21:24:58 * MarkDude 's documentatiuon starts with the process of Cnoni9cal KILLING the PNBW team 21:25:12 Soooo, I have some questions for the council 21:25:16 We go from there 21:25:25 They best reconsider 21:25:32 Or this will be UGLY 21:25:38 really effin ugly 21:25:59 This is about the only thing that would draw me back in formal Ubuntu stuff 21:26:17 * MarkDude does not want to do this, I had a few things I said, I stand by them 21:26:25 Ugly 21:26:33 Tell paultag to contact me 21:26:48 Btw, you can swear in other team channels 21:27:18 approved ones, so we need to examine contradictory stuff 21:27:39 Council should be smart approve the Team 21:27:53 Really no need for me to get back in Ubuntu 21:28:10 * MarkDude has ALL SORTS OF *DIRTY LAUNDRY* 21:28:17 no need to air it 21:28:28 :D 21:29:46 * MarkDude does not think any of this will be needed 21:30:09 * MarkDude gives odds this will be just me providing details 21:30:13 MarkDude it isnt paultag he isnt even involved in Ubuntu anymore 21:30:17 aND aPPROVAL 21:30:17 he is on no council 21:30:18 ;) 21:30:28 He has a hand in this 21:30:38 Charles Proffitt is making the inquiry on behalf of LoCo Council since our approval application comes next month 21:30:39 When I said dirty laundry 21:30:44 I meant it 21:30:49 comes for vote next week I mean 21:30:56 What day? 21:31:41 Next Wednesday or Tuesday 21:31:48 I cant remember gotta check my calendar 21:32:11 * bkerensa is having nathwill go to bat that way they see a fresh face instead of me :P 21:38:01 Well hmmm 21:38:06 Good idea there 21:38:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU 21:38:55 * MarkDude feels that way ^^^^^ :) 21:40:08 * MarkDude is at FUDcon now, will get back soon on this 21:40:38 * MarkDude needs to find notes regarding PNW team 21:40:49 dating WAAAAAAAAAAY before 2011 21:40:58 Since we are talking older stuff 21:45:56 * MarkDude has been spending a fair amount of time, finding stuff that Distros agree on 21:46:02 Uniting stuff 21:46:14 That can be put on hold for the time 21:46:28 For a stupid pissing contest if needed 21:47:12 * MarkDude spent TWO years in pissing contest in Cali 21:47:32 * MarkDude 's promise from the start was eventually fullfilled 21:47:37 the LEAD was removed 21:47:45 took two years 21:47:55 Oregon will be approved 21:48:02 PROMISE 21:48:10 Hopefully next week :) 21:48:40 ttyl folks, next session is starting. And I apologize for my too much coffee rant 21:48:55 XD 22:05:03 yo 00:42:20 hello 00:51:39 hi 00:53:06 bkerensa, been trying to install Precise, but the LiveCD wouldn't boot up without throwing a Kernel Panic right away, is there another way I can install it? 00:55:40 idk.... I just upgraded 00:55:51 I think when I did try the LiveCD it wasnt fully done 00:56:11 ah, ok, so "update-manager -d" without quotes does work? 00:56:29 tried that once, but chickened out. 00:56:48 sudo sed -i s'/oneiric/precise/g' /etc/apt/sources.list 00:56:56 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --purge && sudo apt-get clean 00:56:58 works 00:57:11 hmmmmmm, interesting. 00:57:39 the Wiki Page for Precise has the command I listed in it. 00:57:57 I'll try that and then your command if it doesn't work. 07:36:22 hi tgm4883 17:39:46 hello 23:39:09 hi 00:39:04 slangasek: Any thoughts on dates for the next jam? I believe I sent you and e-mail 00:39:38 slangasek: Thinking maybe we could just discuss at next Debian Social? 14:30:38 hello 15:02:26 Hello all. 15:04:18 Good morning all 15:04:20 :) 15:04:24 Very snowy outside it is.... about 2 or 3 inches 15:12:15 Wow where are you at? Downtown here is just wet. 15:13:13 I put a dual boot on my girlfriends laptop this weekend:) 15:13:29 ubuntu and the xp she already had 15:13:56 she is giving it a test drive I was totally excited. 15:14:54 All right I have a class to teach at 7:45 gotta run see you all at noon or just before. 15:15:13 okie dokie 15:15:14 :) 16:28:10 hey you 16:28:11 :) 16:31:09 nathwill nathwill_ : Let me know if you get a few minutes to chat before the council meeting to discuss our game plan with council ;) 16:31:32 also here is a log from a LoCo Approval meeting in case you want to know how they go typically 16:31:33 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda/20100518 16:35:43 yeah, what's happenin? 16:36:26 sorry bout the delay, just reading up on Murder 16:36:44 oh 16:37:05 Oh well mostly just wanted to point to the link above that has a IRC log so you know what they might ask 16:37:06 ;) 16:39:06 okey doke. 16:46:54 Just a FYI for anyone awake :) I have reached out to someone I know at Dell and asked them to sponsor flash drives for our release party in April 16:47:36 and I have a few requests for food and drink sponsors out and some venue sponsors requests out so stuff is already circulating as for Release Party 16:50:14 bkerensa, ping 16:51:23 MarkDude: Ello 16:51:32 3pm Eastern should be correct 16:51:39 http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Loco+Council+Meeting&iso=20120117T20&ah=1 16:51:57 * MarkDude will see if he can make it 16:52:23 kk 16:52:24 and has also been assured that Fedora is ok with me making a scene if Oregon is not approve 16:52:31 I think we got it either way 16:52:37 * MarkDude has green light 16:52:46 Hopefully 16:52:55 heh 16:53:03 No need for team to be involved with pissing contest 16:59:09 heh funny seeing people struggling to make it up hills on ice and snow 17:24:17 bkerensa, ping 17:24:28 pm 17:27:52 I won't be able to make it until probably 12:30 17:27:57 unless this meeting runs short 17:29:41 heh 17:29:48 that sucks :P 17:30:05 * bkerensa was hoping you might be there tgm4883 incase they pop quiz on before my lead 17:31:35 yea, I'm hoping this meeting will run short (11:30 - 12:30) 17:31:50 but we're virtualizing all the things! so who knows 17:32:09 heh 17:32:49 tgm4883: Well in case they ask do you know why nobody did Team Reports before me? I personally didnt know they were required until months into being lead 17:33:01 nobody told me :) I just found other locos wiki's including them 17:33:04 Team Reports? 17:33:07 LOL 17:33:09 yeah 17:33:17 Every month teams are required to produce a report 17:33:30 summarizing social media buzz, photos, events etc etc 17:33:34 meetings logs 17:33:35 :) 17:33:45 * tgm4883 shrugs 17:34:06 imho I think LoCo Council should play some role in informing new Team Leads and Contacts of this obligation 17:34:07 I didn't know they were required 17:34:37 and since I was the defacto team lead since everyone else moved away I didn't bother to look into it that much 17:34:45 ahh :) 18:12:51 hello kalosaurusrex 18:22:21 hey bkerensa! 18:46:44 hi albrigha 18:57:17 hello 18:57:48 would it be safe to idle on the #ubuntu-meeting channel until the meeting starts? 18:58:53 sure 18:58:59 I idle there always 19:04:38 k 19:08:31 * bkerensa is somewhere between epic tired and asleep 19:10:52 well, hopefully you don't fall asleep during this, ofc, we have Nathan for the main part. 19:11:55 and hopefully all goes well. 19:12:12 I actually will be presenting 19:12:15 so I have to be awake 19:12:16 :) 19:13:18 cool, 19:13:51 lol, there's two bands Jono likes that I happen to like: Disturbed and Severed Fifth. 19:25:36 Just a FYI PuppetLabs just told me if we do want April the 28th for our release party that we are greenlight with them and they can host soda and beer like usual 19:25:44 so far based on the poll the 28th is looking likely 19:28:48 cool, 19:29:16 just because I'm available then doesn't mean something can come up between now and then that prevents me from going. 19:29:50 "Resistance is futieoeoreoe-Error, Error, Borg 129123 has encountered a segmentation fault at 0xx0000000000, Windows will now reboot" something I said on #ubuntu-offtopic 19:30:53 do any of you find that the least bit funny? if not, it's a sign that I have a bad sense of humor. 19:33:27 * nathwill nods 19:33:30 heh 19:34:05 well, at least it was terrible. 19:34:08 nathwill we need to do sushi and beer session sometime in the next few weeks but I'm thinking next month might be best since my schedule is ridic right now 19:34:32 * bkerensa needs to find a place that does brown rice sushi though 19:35:30 oh man, speaking of dining discovery... anybody else checked out Aaroma in Hillsboro? 19:36:06 by far the best mexican food i've ever had. 19:37:33 hmm 19:37:37 Not me 19:37:53 * bkerensa needs to get out to Hillsboro and Beaverton more 19:38:24 c_smith: Btw we will cover this months meeting agenda that got nixed due to connectivity issues in our Feb meeting 19:38:26 mmm... burrito suizo 19:38:38 cool. 19:39:11 *continues reading a Wikipedia article about The Chronicles Of RIddick* 19:39:12 c_smith: Have you considered contributing to a team outside of the LoCo? I know of a opportunity to work on the Ubuntu Developer News 19:39:56 haven't really, mainly due to the fact that I won't have much time in the coming months, Chemeketa, and then an operation on my jaw. 19:43:02 oh yeah 19:43:35 well this opportunity likely only requires 30 minutes or less of your time per week if your interested... Just requires writing and doing interviews via e-mail 19:44:49 ah, ok, well, that should be do-able, I spend more time than that on the PC anyway. 19:45:35 c_smith: Excellent I will introduce you via e-mail 19:45:47 the contact you would be working with is a Canonical employee 19:46:01 cool, 19:46:34 I might have to slip out here for a couple minutes to restart my PC soon. shouldn't be long. 19:46:51 kk 19:47:15 then comes the fun part: setting up the Gnome fallback to look like Gnome 2 Shell. 19:49:26 ok time to start pinging people 19:49:28 brb, restarting PC 19:51:23 Anyone interested in attending the Ubuntu Oregon Approval App Meeting befor LoCo Council it will be in #ubuntu-meeting and starts in about nine minutes or so (Ping: TRAVISg nathwill slangasek tgm4883 albrigha blkperl ) 19:51:37 pong 19:51:45 ;p 19:52:04 I would love to 19:52:24 adam_g is your not busy too :) 19:52:37 #ubuntu-meeting 19:52:41 yep 19:53:04 I wish that was a question it was my feeble attempt to open the chanel 19:54:32 back, but will have to relog a few times. 19:54:35 Darn Ubuntu Wiki dont fail me now 19:54:38 k 19:55:34 okay how do I get there? 19:55:49 just type /join #ubuntu-meeting 19:56:00 ggrrrr 19:56:05 thats right thanks 19:56:53 Got it 20:00:05 hello jvlb 20:00:16 were about to have the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting :) 20:01:09 Hey, hey. 20:01:15 Hello 20:01:30 brb, relogging for the last time 20:01:35 hopefully 20:02:09 hopefully were live now 20:02:28 czajkowski: you taking the chair 20:03:07 lol 20:03:23 ok, I 20:03:26 'm back for good 20:03:31 cprofitt: she isn't in this channel :) 20:03:34 or is she? :P 20:03:54 wrong channel -- sorry 20:05:24 Can everyone who is in #ubuntu-meeting please raise hand here so I know who is present if the ask me 20:05:24 :) 20:05:29 actually I think they will ask 20:05:30 :P 20:05:32 0/ 20:05:35 disregard ^ 20:05:39 lol 20:05:45 lol 20:06:57 brb, desktop is acting up 20:07:06 heh 20:08:06 raises hanfd 20:08:10 or hand 20:08:29 (wrong window I think?) 20:08:47 lol 20:08:50 back 20:08:54 TRAVISg thats for montenegro 20:08:56 not us 20:08:59 were next ;) 20:09:09 unless you secretely live in Montenegro :P 20:09:11 cool, I didn't miss it, then. 20:09:29 No I was responding late to your request 20:09:48 I was just cleaning it and it went off I didn't even know it was loaded 20:11:41 that's what she said 20:11:50 (practising quietly in the corner "raises hand" "raises hand""raises hand" 20:12:00 Okay I think I got it 20:13:21 bleh, really need to iron out the bugs in Gnome Classic with effects, brb, switching to the one without effects. 20:13:37 nvm, it was my mouse. 20:15:54 bkerensa do you know the people from ubuntu holding the meeting 20:16:13 Yes I know almost all of the loco council 20:16:18 are we supposed to report stuff? 20:16:21 but that does not mean they will favor me 20:16:28 c_smith: I do our team reports 20:16:33 no was just wondering 20:16:35 ah, cool 20:16:38 but previous team leads did not 20:16:44 ah 20:17:00 *crosses fingers and hopes this goes well* 20:17:35 * nathwill joins c_smith 20:17:35 hmmmmm, Windows 8 is supposedly coming out with a new FS. 20:17:57 ReFS is the filesystem coming with Windows 8 20:19:20 What does the "Re" stand for, recidivist? 20:19:43 bkerensa I am sure you will do a great job representing us. 20:19:51 *pats BK on the back* 20:20:01 Resilient Files System is ReFS. 20:20:39 just got an email about a ZDNet article on it. 20:20:44 I have another appt. at one think we will make it by then? 20:21:42 no clue, all that I have waiting until the end of this meeting is lunch. 20:22:56 ok were coming up very quick 20:23:11 Yeah the are voting 20:23:36 yep 20:23:45 got back to this window just in time 20:24:18 I just realized I could detatch my tabs that helped a lot 20:24:30 in empathy 20:24:50 lol, 20:25:10 btw, can't wait for the new Severed Fifth album. 20:25:54 yeah 20:25:57 Jono's band rocks 20:26:02 yup. 20:26:08 never heard em 20:26:17 his band tops Disturbed imo 20:26:20 ready 20:27:00 shoot me a link? what kind of music? 20:27:18 Thrash Metal. 20:27:33 Adele - Rolling in the deep time 20:27:57 TRAVISg, www.severedfifth.com/ they are a Thrash Metal band. 20:28:29 I haven't listened to any in a while maybe I'll give em a shot 20:30:19 even if we don't get through, this is an interesting experience. 20:30:37 hey there cza 20:30:43 whoa, didn't expect that. 20:30:54 that was weird eh? 20:30:58 yup 20:38:05 slangasek: poke 20:39:12 blkperl: hey there - sorry, been traveling; seen your questions in backlog but haven't actually gotten to the point of crafting a talk yet - going to do that this evening 20:39:27 slangasek: thanks! :) 20:40:45 (still traveling actually; only on IRC because I got a reminder for the loco approval meeting) 20:45:29 Rhythmbox, y u no liek me? 20:49:35 y u like rhythmbox?! 20:49:35 I may have to cut out early at 2:30 if this runs until then. 20:50:05 Banshee crashes after a while, Rhythmbox now does that upon trying to play a song. 20:50:31 I use VLC fro everything except podcasts 20:51:13 lol, time to try Amarok. 20:51:46 deadbeef! 20:51:55 Deadbeef? 20:51:56 mocp! 20:51:57 Amarok has been solid for me. 20:51:58 heh 20:52:12 Anyways slangasek 20:52:13 not sure what your all are talking about with Deadbeef and mocp. 20:52:24 while your around do you know when the next debian boozing is? 20:52:37 I wanted to see about the Ubuntu Hour on the same days 20:52:50 c_smith: yes, New York -- not the city the state 20:52:54 bkerensa: always the third Thursday 20:52:57 k 20:53:11 cprofitt, ah, cool 20:53:25 tgm4883: I wish you had been around =/ 20:53:28 and yes, my state got turned down three times 20:53:39 this would be the second time for this LoCo 20:53:40 =/ 20:53:45 http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/ 20:53:56 we had to show 12 months of activity 20:54:01 we had to show 12 months of activity 20:54:05 yeah 20:54:07 sorry for hte double 20:54:21 is that documented as a prerequisite for applying? 20:54:35 slangasek: There isnt one 20:54:35 slangasek: not that I am aware of... 20:54:42 was not then, is not now 20:54:49 they approve teams that dont do team reports they deny some who do 20:54:59 its up to council 20:55:14 they did tell us what needs to be done before they might approve us, so that's not exactly terrible, eh? 20:55:26 nope 20:55:29 yep - but if the council has certain typical expectations, it's much healthier for these to be documented 20:55:40 instead of having people take time out in the middle of their day for IRC meetings 20:55:42 slangasek: Yeah and people have brought it up before 20:56:02 slangasek: The expectations should also be the same across the board 20:56:19 slangasek: yeah, but are you sure Open Source and documentation mix? 20:56:33 jvlb: er, yes? 20:56:37 well, I'm gonna grab lunch, see you all later. 20:56:38 that's why you creat long function names 20:56:53 one difficulty english speaking teams have is they lack some of the fucntions of a national team that has a different language 20:57:07 Hmmm might be worth setting as a stanard? 20:57:15 What would be the downside? 20:57:20 cprofitt, we could totally have a translation event... 20:57:33 I gotta run I am going to be late. 20:57:44 thanks for coming TRAVISg :) 20:57:54 I really look forward to the next time we get together. 20:58:07 Next month IRC meet 20:58:15 c_smith will announce it soon likely 20:58:16 :) 20:58:30 I am helping my girlfriend switch over and boy it's true if you want to learn something teach it 20:58:34 Thanks for your efforts in this Ben. Let's do it again in six months. 20:59:01 IRC is great but a live event like an install party would be cool too 20:59:11 AFK 20:59:13 yep, good effort, will try it in six months 20:59:26 in six months we own it!!! 20:59:41 okay now I am really going back to work:p 21:00:19 jvlb 21:00:21 sure 21:00:24 oh he parted 21:16:39 * bkerensa tips his hat 21:16:41 bbl 21:28:29 slangasek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/TeamApprovalGuidelines 23:23:44 hi 23:55:17 hi cpncook 00:30:56 hi jhmextern 00:31:19 Helllo bkerensa 00:31:44 good presentation 00:34:07 hi there 00:35:18 jhmextern: Unfortunately not good enough 00:36:56 I think you said it the right way, we are in this because we enjoy ubuntu and want to spread the word. 00:37:18 not because 00:37:37 indeed 00:37:42 but recognition is good some times 00:38:06 so we will try again in six months 01:15:01 yo 01:17:23 hi 01:23:27 how's things? 01:24:18 *wonders if Gnome 3 Classic mode is temporary* you know, the one that can be stylized into a Gnome 2 look. 01:24:56 if it IS temporary, I may have to get XFCE down. 01:29:13 bkerensa, hope you managed to at least get a nap in since the meeting, might make all the difference. 01:32:45 yeah 01:33:02 * bkerensa just needs to encourage people to get more involved in the community. 01:33:09 outside of the LoCo 01:36:15 bkeresna, also, has there been any word from the Salem Public Library lately? 01:36:47 CWeber10, here had brought to my attention that the Salem LUG had issues with them wanting them to pay them. 01:37:08 bleh, that last message's formatting sucked. 01:40:01 * c_smith is going to try Xubuntu after the disk burns since he doesn't want to be caught off-guard when the Gnome team cuts the fallback mode 01:41:45 has anyone here heard of the Pandora gaming system? here's the website: http://www.open-pandora.org/ 01:43:12 well, I shall be back in a while after I get Xubuntu set up. 01:44:44 bkerensa: hey good try on the approval. next time! 01:47:27 indeed 01:47:47 c_smith: No response 04:53:40 yo 17:54:44 blackout all the things! 18:40:37 quick everyone make their irc txt colors black 19:23:01 i can't hear you! 22:31:18 w/in 16 22:46:21 ?? 23:05:21 irssi typo 23:23:04 ah, ok 01:02:47 heh 01:03:12 FYI: I might be offline mostly till tomorrow :) having epic connectivity issues 01:03:45 Hopefully I will have my Clear Wireless up tomorrow 02:31:09 hey bkerensa 03:51:51 that sucks 03:52:21 * c_smith comes back from playing a game only to go back to lurking 04:37:11 hello 04:38:19 Just finding out I cant stay logged in on my PC at home and log in from my laptop 05:55:39 hi albrigha 05:55:42 :D 05:55:43 internet seems sorted 21:38:14 bkerensa, are you available to answer some questions about the Ubuntu dev thing? 22:09:06 bkerensa, what were the commands you listed that you used to upgrade to 12.04? 22:18:02 c_smith: 'do-release-upgrade -d' is the preferred cli approach 22:19:31 k 22:22:37 sbeattie: hey! what do you do? I see security? 22:23:44 albrigha: yes, I'm on the ubuntu security team 22:23:52 sbeattie: I just noticed you are in some canonical rooms, and wanted to say hi there 22:24:04 sbeattie: awesome! it's rather cool we are so close 22:24:08 sbeattie: how long have you been doing that? 22:24:31 (I just started on the Ubuntu QA Team) 22:24:45 * c_smith wonders if the Kernel Panics he is getting upon booting or shortly thereafter on 12.04 are related to his hardware 22:26:23 albrigha: I've been with the security team for 1.5 years; before that I was on the QA team. 22:27:09 sbeattie: ha no way, that's pretty funny! well if you have any tips/suggestions... 22:27:54 I'm likely going to install Ubuntu 11.10 and then upgrade to 12.04 before applying update. 22:27:58 *updates 22:30:07 albrigha: the QA team's been revamped a fair amount since I switched. 22:32:58 anyone here have a good recommendation for a lenovo laptop? looking for something thats pretty portable ~14" or so 22:34:25 no clue, my laptop runs Ubuntu and Linux in general pretty well, but it's a 15" one. 22:34:37 and it's 3 years old. 22:37:44 hello all 22:47:10 hey c_smith 22:47:16 you around? 22:47:33 bkerensa whats up man? 22:47:43 oops just missed him 22:48:19 hi 22:48:21 I was just testing ports on Clearwire 22:48:25 getting ready to connect this modem to a router 22:48:39 I dont know why people say Clearwire is bad.... its fast enough for me 22:48:41 10meg down 22:56:21 hows connectivity when its snowing/raining? 22:56:43 I had clearwire for awhile as well. I never had any real problems. They had some tower issues. but when it worked it was fast. 22:57:27 they doing any type of special routing/nat? 23:07:23 Brian_H: Nope 23:07:41 they got open modems so you can handle NAT on your end 23:08:15 I just got mine fully setup and I get solid signal but notably there is a Clear tower just a few hundred yards away from me 23:08:18 :P 23:08:24 lol 23:08:33 hopefully you don't grow any extra limbs 23:09:13 lol 23:09:24 I think that only happens in early child development 23:09:38 I'm actually hoping to be moving by the spring though 23:09:39 :D 23:09:49 oh yea? where to ? 23:09:52 likely into Multnomah Village or closer to Downtown 23:10:14 * bkerensa is going to look at a house in Multnomah Village on Sunday 23:10:14 multnomah village is cool, there is a cafe there called fat city that is awesome 23:10:25 I eat there regularly 23:10:34 Its off Boones Ferry and 62nd 23:10:36 :D 23:19:46 peace out 23:20:02 oh wait when is our next meeting? 23:22:55 okay now I have to go peace out 23:47:35 Okay today I am going to remember to sign out from this PC so I can sign on with my laptop later 23:48:06 ? 23:48:07 lol 23:48:56 I keep forgetting I am idling then when I am out and about and want to get on I can't log in 23:49:03 at least not with this nick 23:49:14 guess it doesn't really matter much 23:49:27 ZNC is the way to go 23:49:37 ZNC? 23:49:41 it lets you stay on IRC 24/7/365 and just connect when you need to 23:49:52 HHMMMM 23:49:55 http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC 23:50:00 its why Im always on IRC 23:50:00 :) 23:50:05 oh.. 23:50:07 that's awesome 23:50:08 thanks 23:50:08 interesting 23:50:16 oh you guys thought I didnt have a life lol? 23:50:16 :D 23:50:30 Ubuntu Oregon has ZNC server 23:50:35 I can hook you guys up 23:50:40 well I wasn't going to say it..but I was kinda thinking about it lol 23:50:41 yes please! 23:50:51 *raises hand eagerly 23:50:57 but I dont know and cant guarantee it will always be available since I pay for it out of my pocket :P but its been up for months 23:51:10 so the idea just so you know 23:51:15 is instead of connecting to irc 23:51:21 you will now connect to the ZNC 23:51:27 which stays connected persistantly 23:51:28 :D 23:51:31 is that secure? 23:51:43 does it connect to servers other than freenode? 23:52:02 ours only connects here since this is where Ubuntu has channels 23:52:26 albrigha: Yes ZNC doesnt log anything except for what they call buffer 23:52:27 so 23:52:31 how do I get started? 23:52:41 any conversation that occurs when your disconnected u can review when u connect 23:52:45 bkerensa: I have to connect to some other servers as well..but I'll give it a try 23:52:49 uhh I will make you an account 23:52:57 SWEET 23:53:50 if you guys can pm me your preferred irc nicks 23:53:56 I will make u an account right now 23:54:01 albrigha is great :) 23:54:05 nathwill, me and c_smith all use it already 23:54:05 :D 23:54:31 PM in IRC or just shoot an e-mail? and what info do you need 23:54:46 I just wanna know what nick u wanna use for irc 23:54:51 I assume what your using now? 23:54:56 u can tell me here 23:54:56 Yup 23:56:13 so how do I log in? 23:56:30 and can I use empathy? 23:57:22 ? 23:57:34 :) 23:57:39 oh look your here 23:59:22 how do I sign in? 00:30:56 TRAVISg: working now? 01:07:09 they do the silence for fun I think 01:07:15 to build anticipation 01:07:32 lol 01:07:49 it's working.. 01:07:52 see they always do that thing about contributing as a part of work 01:07:52 :D 01:08:25 should say you have someone from the loco to support you 01:09:10 good idea lol 01:16:01 damn.. 01:16:30 I was certain they were leaning for against 01:16:31 LOL 01:16:39 which is why I added some input 01:16:51 they be harsh on the Canonical folks 01:16:51 :D 01:17:04 lol 01:17:08 me too.. 01:19:43 what magical thing happens now? 01:21:01 uhh 01:21:10 well they add you to the Ubuntu Member launchpad team 01:21:24 then Canonical has this wonky little cron job that checks that when it feels like it 01:21:43 and then a aliases is created on @ubuntu.com 01:21:51 the rest of the perks you have to e-mail someone for 01:22:01 or use bzr to add yourself to Planet :D 01:23:28 planet? I'm drawing a blank 01:27:08 I'm off for a bit. ttyl! 01:27:29 Thanks bkerensa! 01:27:35 :) 01:34:03 uhhh 01:34:30 * bkerensa has to brainstorm how much he would charge to build out a production SVN with Team Collab 03:38:48 bkerensa you here? 03:39:45 hello all 03:43:08 hello 03:47:53 * c_smith is downloading the 12.04 alternate install CD in a last ditch effort to get 12.04 04:06:56 ah 04:07:17 bkerensa you in here? 04:07:18 well, those of us in Marion county have a state of emergency due to flooding. 04:08:11 Aumsville is completely flooded. 04:08:30 wow are you all right? 04:08:50 I am, have a day free tomorrow due to this. 04:09:06 Salem is flooded in parts, Keizer could be, too. 04:09:41 that's too bad 04:10:00 the State Penitentiary has a moat courtesy of the flooding, Salem Hospital has certain streets in it flooded. 04:10:07 I remember back in '96 04:10:11 it was bad 04:10:14 all over 04:10:23 this state of emergency is comparable to that. 04:10:43 but more localized. 04:11:25 Keep me posted 04:11:39 earlier today bkerensa 04:11:50 was getting me set up on ZNC 04:11:56 but I had to run 04:12:06 you are on it right? 04:12:20 sounds pretty cool 04:12:48 I was hoping to catch him on here tonight now that I have a little time 04:12:58 yes, I'm on it. 04:13:08 well I will after my sons story time and tuck in 04:13:18 but if he didn't give you the login info, there's no way I can help there. 04:13:35 other than that, I can definitely help when you get time. 04:14:13 he gave me the log on info not sure how much is kosher to say here 04:14:19 he gave it to me in PM 04:15:36 I remember the port the user and password the easy part the server I think I am messing up:P 04:15:43 do you use empathy? 04:16:28 I'd recommend installing and using xchat for the vnc server. 04:16:55 "sudo apt-get install xchat" in a terminal (without quotes) will do the job. 04:16:59 BRB storytime 04:17:02 k 04:19:49 heya, MarkDude! 04:20:23 * c_smith jams to Boiler by Limp Bizkit 04:23:10 hi 04:23:54 hello, bkerensa 04:26:42 bkerensa, travisgonzales23 is going to be wanting your help with the vnc server 04:26:52 also, thanks again for letting me use it. 04:27:07 I saw 04:27:25 all he needs is to put the server, user/pass info into his irc client 04:27:31 and connect to it like a normal irc server 04:28:44 I recall having trouble with Empathy connecting to the vnc server. 04:28:54 didn't authenticate correctly. 04:29:11 it was that and pidgin I had problems with with. 04:30:48 I always use xchat 04:30:58 Empathy and Pidgin are not good for IRC at all 04:31:34 yeah, I told him to grab xchat if he wants to avoid frustrations in Empathy. 04:31:51 might have been a bit abrasive, but it's true. 04:31:56 yeah 04:32:04 * bkerensa has to go do stuff ttyl 04:33:20 cya 04:36:07 I'm back 04:36:17 I don't think you were abrasive C 04:36:27 ah, ok 04:36:38 Maybe a bit matter of fact but there is a difference 04:36:39 but yeah, you saw what bkerensa said, correct? 04:36:45 yeah 04:36:59 so, first thing I'd do if I was you is install Xchat, 04:37:06 let me get Xchat and we will be on our way 04:37:10 one second 04:37:16 Empathy will run you into problems from the start. 04:38:01 do you think I just remove empathy to avoid conflicts? or keep it for Facebook and G-chat? 04:38:05 do you have the server address? 04:38:18 I'd keep it, there are no conflicts. 04:38:39 that was the part I forgot I remember the parts I think 04:39:13 cloud......???ubuntu???? 04:39:21 I have never uninstalled Empathy, as I occasionally use if for FB and Google myself. 04:39:34 k, let me grab the file I have with the server address. 04:39:44 I do remember the port though 04:39:53 Server: cloud.ubuntu-oregon.org 04:39:53 Port 3169 04:40:00 funny I remember the random number 04:40:37 I'd recommend putting it in a text file on a seperate storage if you have a bad memory, I do that, wouldn't remember the address otherwise. 04:40:50 and you remember the login info, correct? 04:41:00 I can't give you that myself. 04:41:25 I believe so 04:41:29 we will see 04:41:42 :) 04:42:02 k, you know how to add a server to Xchat, right? it's a two step process. 04:44:00 Oregon is getting hit hard by bad weather. at least it aint nukes. 04:47:31 so I think I got most of it myself kinda pridefull but I always like to try first 04:47:44 just can't seem to find where to enter the port 04:49:29 enter it in the server field like this: servername/port 04:49:42 gotit 04:49:57 in this case it would be cloud.ubuntu-oregon.org/3169 04:53:50 I guess I had the password wrong 04:54:17 hmmmm, how are you entering it? I ran into a similar problem at the start. 04:54:42 it should be exactly like this: /quote PASS username:password 04:55:04 replace "username" and "password" 04:56:05 I will have to try again later I have to call my girlfiend 04:56:09 BRB 04:56:43 k, cya 06:15:07 I am back any body here? 06:15:46 c_smith not sure what you meant with the username password thing 06:16:11 I do remember a specific password he ave me 06:16:22 bkerensa you here? 06:22:39 ah well I guess I will see if I can give it a shot tomorrow 06:23:16 bkerensa Thank you so much for the offer I am sure we will iron it out thanks again 06:23:30 c_smith thank you again for the help 07:19:50 izdubar: ;p 07:40:26 * bkerensa slaps MarkDude around with a large trout 08:53:23 I have no clue how TRAVISg is logged in. I don't know I thought that was my nick but ehhh 09:05:21 Okay going to idle here in Xchat with my assumed identity until tomorrow who knows how late then hope some one wasn't able to leave there house and can help me figure this out 09:06:14 Not that I hope any one gets flooded in but I'm just saying it's a friday so if your stuck in I will take the help ;) 15:01:39 good morning all 16:40:20 :D 16:40:39 TRAVISg_ its the znc 16:40:46 Tgonza even 16:41:03 it stays connected persistently thats why you connect through ZNC 16:41:09 instead of directly to the irc server 16:41:33 give me a few seconds and I go ahead and make up a screencast on how to use ZNC :) 16:41:49 I have to put away groceries :P 17:14:45 I still can't even get to the grocery store :p 17:15:05 But it is finally melting up here 17:16:10 where are you shannonlucas? 17:16:24 albrigha: seattle 17:16:26 I'm in OC..and we only got a little. and it all melted pretty promptly 17:16:29 (oregon city) 17:16:31 ah I see 17:16:49 Got about 4 inches where I'm at 17:23:50 nice 17:23:51 albrigha: If your still using ZNC and you use xchat in the network field 17:23:53 you can just put server password as zncusername:zncpass 17:25:04 heh 17:25:08 we had lots of snow in SW for two days 17:28:31 albrigha: http://imgur.com/n7Idw 18:08:11 bkerensa: haha awesome! 18:28:06 bkerensa: sorry I haven't worked on getting znc hooked up quite yet 22:55:20 * c_smith lost connection due to Kubuntu acting up 23:03:03 hello 23:18:58 hello 23:19:09 hello! 23:19:27 Hello! 23:21:43 how is everyone? 23:27:11 Hi! 23:27:40 heya, Brian_H! 23:30:22 how goes it 23:30:30 so, has anyone here heard about the Marion county flooding? a lot of Salem has that, certain Cherriots routes are change or stopped completely because of it, good thing for me Routes 9 and 19 aren't stopped. 23:30:52 not bad, had a day off of school because of said flooding. 23:47:22 heck yea 23:49:30 yup, last night there was a state of emergency due to the flooding. 00:48:53 hi 00:48:55 oh darn... I just get on IRC and now I gotta run off and work 00:48:57 :( 01:03:23 bkerensa, PING 01:03:47 Any news on cheaper Linux laptops? 01:04:11 When does CTL expect their machines to hit- end of Feb? 01:05:28 hmmmm, wonder what GPU those come with. 01:05:54 got 15 minutes until I head to the Ubuntu Hour for today. 01:06:09 headed there gives me 10 minutes leeway. 01:06:44 Intel Core i3-2330 2.2GHz, 3M Cache 01:06:53 Tello Ben I can check later 01:07:02 Someone at the conference was interersted 01:07:11 have fun c_smith 01:07:42 yup 01:08:18 MarkDude, I wasn't talking CPU, but GPU: Graphic Processing Unity, commonly known as a Graphics Card. 01:08:29 *Unit, not Unity 01:09:22 any clue what the graphics card is? 01:34:52 MarkDude: Beginning of March 01:35:42 * bkerensa is likely going to be a contractor setting up SVN/GIT/Trac for them and some other work to make their Ubuntu product development better 01:49:44 bkerensa: cool awesome! 01:50:08 * c_smith is at the Broadway Commons Coffeehouse 01:50:42 still trying to find a better place to host these Ubuntu Hours in Salem. 01:54:05 bleh, Plasma Shell keeps crashing...... 01:54:28 so, is anyone here at Broadway Commons? 01:55:41 if anyone is here, I'm 2 tables away from the door facing Broadway. 01:55:52 I can't make it down there tonight I'm afraid 01:55:56 but where on broadway is it? 01:56:15 it's on the corner of Broadway and Gaines. 01:56:23 really easy for me to get to. 01:56:46 Cherriots and monthly bus pass from school ftw! 01:57:49 bkerensa, any clue what GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) those CTL laptop have? 02:01:10 Oh, you are in salem--that's right. 02:01:16 I kept thinking you are in portland >_< 02:01:25 lol 02:02:33 I have doctors in Portland (OHSU) and I go to Portland for some of the Ubuntu Oregon events, I'd love to attend OSCON. 02:09:44 yeah I'm planning on going this year 02:09:59 I've been before and tons of swag 02:10:10 got even 02:10:13 it's good fun 02:10:27 I think there will be a loco booth? 02:10:44 bkerensa would know better..but I think he said osmething about that 02:10:48 just wish I knew where it was (street address) so I could start planning. 02:14:29 usually convention center I think 02:14:55 http://www.oscon.com/oscon2012 02:14:58 yeah convention center 02:16:32 nice, now I can actually start planning for it. 02:37:47 glad I could help :) 03:51:06 well how'd the ubuntu hour go then? 03:52:00 nobody showed up, dunno if I turned any heads to FLOSS either. 03:52:51 but it's only the 3rd meeting (second one I didnt't make, 1st one I hosted, might have those numbers wrong, too) so it's to be expected. 03:53:31 heh, I posted about that on #ubuntu-offtopic by mistake. meant to say what I said there here. 04:08:12 lol 04:08:15 hate it when that happens 04:08:19 yup 04:09:24 well, back to marking software to install 04:56:20 so what do you do c_smith? 04:56:25 school, work? etc? 05:11:02 School, working on getting in Chemeketa. 05:11:24 I help out here in my spare time (which is getting less and less these days) 05:12:17 plus I have an operation on my jaw coming up (which I wish I could just forget until I have to go in for it) 05:19:39 what do you want to learn at chemeketa? 05:19:51 I have an operation on my wrist soon >_< 05:20:00 not looking forward to it either 05:20:06 what do they have to do with your jaw, if you don't mind? 05:20:56 they're breaking it and reconstructing it, similar to what they did to my nose, this will be operation twenty-something, I lost count at 20. 05:21:03 damn man 05:21:11 that sounds harsh >_< 05:21:12 Scholiosis, Cleft Lip AND Pallet. 05:21:34 well..hopefully everything will work out this time! 05:21:52 got the short straw in that sense in my family, but I haven't had a broken bone that didn't need to happen. 05:22:14 both my brother AND sister have had broken bones due to accidents. 05:22:24 man that sucks 05:22:28 I'm sorry :( 05:22:41 yep, at least I haven't broken a bone in my body myself. 05:22:50 but..you seem pretty positive 05:22:53 so that's good :) 05:23:23 yep. sometimes I get somewhat negative, but with this type of stuff, I find it's easier to look at it in a positive angle. 05:23:38 yeah...can't really control it. sadly 05:23:43 there are things I tend to look at negatively though. 05:23:58 I'm sure, it happens :/ 05:24:04 what are you wanting to do at chemeketa? 05:24:04 but most things are easier to look at in a positive light. 05:24:13 they do emt/fire stuff there, I think? 05:24:54 something that will help me at least get in to a better college for programming classes. 05:25:00 ah cool! 05:25:11 have you learned any programming, by chance? 05:25:12 yup 05:25:19 a bit of Python. 05:25:22 nice 05:25:26 I've been working on python myself 05:25:32 still working on it in times I'm bored. 05:25:33 if you want to do some collaboration I'd be down 05:25:38 yeah.. 05:25:43 it's nice to work with someone, I feel 05:25:47 little motivation, etd 05:25:48 c 05:26:00 when I get bored, I put my effort to learning it. or reading a book. 05:26:25 have you looked at.. 05:26:34 http://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ex1.html 05:26:37 it's great! 05:26:45 I also found some MIT classes online! :O 05:27:37 that looks like it would be better than the book I'm using. 05:27:46 I've had a hard time with books.. 05:27:51 I mean I have a great book too 05:28:00 but the learnpythonthehardway is great 05:28:04 I learned a lot 05:28:19 I myself have a good time with books when I can practice it while reading it. 05:28:26 exactly 05:28:37 it's just hard that, at least my python book, is 3" thick 05:28:46 it's hard to prop that thing up so I can read it while typing 05:29:53 true. 05:30:11 I have a music stand..but it sort of falls over 05:30:47 well check it out, let me know what you think 05:30:54 I'm no expert, but I'll help if I can 05:31:02 I know some super python programmers though 05:31:42 I will, currently working on marking stuff for installation, and then am going to sleep, I'll look at it tomorrow then let you know. k? 05:31:54 yeah cool :) 05:31:56 ttyl :) 05:32:14 also, was it you I was helping with the znc server? 05:32:24 no, I haven't tried connecting yet 05:32:31 my configuration is..complicated. 05:32:32 I'm not going to sleep yet. 05:32:36 ah, ok 05:32:55 but..actually I'm going to get xchat working though 05:32:55 still have quite a bit to mark for installation. 05:33:01 what are you installing? 05:33:06 12.04? 05:33:28 a bunch of games, and some stuff for compiling different programs, and Chromium. 05:33:34 ah fun stuff 05:33:38 yup 05:33:49 what do you use ubuntu for anyway? 05:34:41 My only OS, which means pretty much everything, the only thing that held me to Windows I found out worked better on Ubuntu about two years ago. 05:35:08 awesome! 05:35:12 yup 05:35:28 what version do you have installed now? 05:35:44 Kubuntu 11.10 x86_64 05:35:56 ah cool 05:36:01 KDE really looks nice, and is really functional. 05:36:37 yeah..and unity is looking better :) at least..with 12.04 it seems better. or maybe I just get it more 05:36:46 I hated it for awhile though 05:37:03 looks like I might try 12.04 beta, but the alpha doesn't want to work for me. 05:37:12 what issues are you having? 05:37:18 Kernel Panics galore on startup. 05:37:24 I load up the daily..almost daily 05:37:28 hm 05:37:29 interesting 05:37:33 what sort of system are you on? 05:37:49 have you tried recently? 05:37:59 just yesterday. 05:38:18 it ran fine in my VM..I'm curious what panics you are getting? 05:38:33 did you run it on a real system or vm? 05:39:33 VM worked, got a good look at it, it doesn't like being installed on the real system. 05:39:40 ah hm 05:39:42 interesting 05:39:47 well my test box sort of crashed 05:39:50 I'll likely do the VM for a while until Beta comes about. 05:40:12 what sort of system did you try installing it on? 05:40:55 Compaq Presario CQ60-420US 05:41:20 system is about 3-years old. 05:41:44 hmm 05:43:47 now here's a sad thing: many children in the US are unemployed illegally. 05:44:12 *employed. 05:44:18 not unemployed. 05:44:27 I don't see any defects for your system with kernel panic 05:44:38 would you be willing to do some testing for me? 05:44:52 hmmmm, then it might be the fact that it is an alpha. 05:44:52 i'd..really appreciate it :) 05:45:00 what kind of testing? 05:45:11 true..if I could get the kernel panics I can double check if they are already in LP 05:45:22 just install..see how it goes. and lemme know what panics you get, etc 05:45:29 If you want..no pressure 05:45:47 I've found I can get a Panic from just booting the LiveCD. 05:46:06 are there any other messages/errors? 05:46:08 Virtualbox doesn't do this, though. 05:46:19 yeah seems to work fine with vb for me too 05:46:30 so I'm thinking there is a hardware issue 05:46:43 but..it's hard to say..limited info, etc 05:46:49 I'd need to get the CD, and the packages would take several hours to install, so I can test tomorrow. 05:46:56 oki np 05:46:59 cool 05:47:40 tbh, don't think I'll actually install as I get the same Panic from the LiveCD as if I were to upgrade and reboot. 05:47:52 yeah that's cool 05:47:58 just a livecd and the actual error would be great 05:48:51 is that your primary system? 05:49:02 cool, I'll have the LiveCD ready, just need to have a way to talk on IRC on my Wii (not hard since I have it hacked) 05:49:06 it's my only PC. 05:52:08 I'm sure I can get an IRC client for my Wii. just would need to figure out how to get it to connect to Ben's znc server. 05:54:28 hm no idea.. 05:54:39 I've played on a wii I think once >_< 05:54:45 yeah, doubt you have a softmodded Wii. 05:55:09 I haven't. but I've moded lots of android phones :) 05:55:18 I'm sure it's diff though 05:55:28 how do you mod a wii, roughly? 05:56:28 lol, VERY, the main I/O software is know as an IOS (Input/Output System) I usually mod it with an exploit called Letterbomb, and use that exploit to install a channel called The Homebrew Channel. 05:56:58 over usb? a linux app? 05:57:29 nope, front loaded SDHC card. 05:57:36 wow xchat is way better than pidgin. that's for sure 05:57:39 ah I see 05:57:43 that it is. 05:57:57 the actual exploit was found by Team Twiizers. 05:58:29 hold on, I'm going to switch completely. brb 06:01:44 hmmm, looks like I'll have to use the Wii internet Channel to use a Browser based IRC client. 06:02:09 Mibbit Looks promising. 06:04:35 bah 06:04:39 my other nick zombied 06:05:50 wow..... 06:06:09 not sure how that happens. would a op be able to help? 06:08:28 nah it's cool 06:08:35 I think I almost have it 06:10:05 k 06:13:33 ohh okay 06:13:40 i think i got it worked out 06:14:34 c_smith, you still around? 06:16:32 yup 06:16:37 ah cool 06:16:39 working great 06:16:42 much much better 06:16:46 won't be for much longer, though 06:16:51 oki 06:17:06 but yeah, you see why I use Xchat now, don't you? 06:17:18 oh yes 06:17:35 i've used it before and forgot about it >_< 06:17:36 I use Pidgin for FB and a Gamer IM called Xfire. 06:17:37 it's much better 06:17:46 i can never get fb to keep working.. 06:17:50 Xfire only has a Windows client. 06:17:52 it always seems to have some issue after awhile 06:17:56 ah 06:18:14 but Pidgin has a plugin for Xfire called Gfire. 06:18:33 hmmmm, I haven't run into that on Pidgin with Facebook. 06:19:52 i just stopped using it after awhile 06:19:54 i guess i could try again 06:20:01 eh i don't really chat on fb anyway 06:20:05 so it wasn't a big deal 06:20:06 well, I'm gonna go get some sleep, tomorrow I'll figure out the IRC on the Wii, as the Wii doesn't have an IRC client (not even a Homebrew app) but it has an Opera based web browser, so I should be able to get a browser based Freenode client working. 06:20:20 cool! 06:20:22 ttyl :) 06:20:31 and then I'll assist on the Panics. 06:20:35 ttyl 06:36:17 anyone around? 07:38:48 heh 07:38:54 albrigha Im here 07:39:12 hey hey! 17:09:57 hello 17:11:18 albrigha, you here? 17:13:31 doing that so I can log into my account with a browser based IRC and help with the Kernel Panic 17:39:34 hello all 17:40:20 bkerensa I finally have some time to try and get that ZNC thing working in Xchat 17:40:43 it wasn't ZNC but cant remember what the letters where 17:41:24 bkerensa this is TRAVISg 17:42:42 Anybody here this morning? 17:43:33 I have some questions about architectures I just realized last night that the install I did of 11.10 on My girlfiends machine is 64 bit 17:44:11 cool 17:44:27 So now I am researching the differences to see if I need to reinstall with 32bit any first impressions 17:45:26 wait a moment whats the "Kernel Panic" something I can help with? 17:45:52 actually, unless she has more than 4GB worth of RAM, there's not much difference, 64-bit is the first architecture that can support >4GB RAM. 17:46:12 32-Bit in general support up to 3GB RAM. 17:47:00 and the Kernel Panic is from the Alpha version of 12.04, me and albrigha are trying to pin down the cause so a bug report can be filed for it. 17:47:18 I see 17:47:18 it isn't installed, but I have the LiveCD ready. 17:47:26 ah 17:47:47 the LiveCD gives me the same Panic as if I were to upgrade and boot up. 17:48:29 You know this may sound cheesy but you guys have made learning more about my hardware and software so easy and such a good experience 17:48:36 thanks for all your help guys 17:48:44 no prob 17:48:55 *tearing up a little* 17:48:58 ;) 17:49:11 just wish more people in Salem were interested in FOSS. 17:49:44 I have heard some talk here at the mission I live and work at of making a jump to FOSS 17:52:32 hmmmm, interesting. 17:52:55 well, time to play some Modern Warfare 3 18:13:07 Enjoy 18:13:16 bkerensa you here? 18:13:42 bkerensa, cant remember how to talk to a specific person I think that's it 18:42:46 c_smith you there? 19:05:38 AFK 19:26:30 any body here? 19:29:05 all right I am off to backspace then the Library. hope to catch some folks later 19:29:48 bkerensa really looking forward to the screencast of znc-Xchat set up thanks in advance 20:11:53 hello 20:16:32 * c_smith finished playing MW3 for now 20:35:47 hmmmmm, kinda quiet. 20:58:04 PARTY! 20:58:22 BUWAWAWAAAAWAWA!!!!!!!! 20:58:27 There, no longer quiet 20:58:41 your welcome c_smith 20:58:56 lol 20:59:07 * c_smith throws confetti 20:59:21 * tgm4883 fires guns into the air 21:01:22 * c_smith lights helium on fire 21:03:01 * tgm4883 pumps gasoline into the fire sprinklers 21:03:30 Da roof, Da roof, Da roof is on fire! 21:09:24 rofl 21:10:17 * c_smith dumps Nitroglycerin on tgm4883 and throws a match on him 21:10:37 ooops, think someone killed tgm4883, better get the police in here. 21:10:43 (In the voice of Vader) Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!! 21:13:12 * c_smith fires a sniper rifle at tgm4883 at point blank range 21:14:20 * tgm4883 holds up the firing pin to said sniper rifle 21:16:13 crap....... you beat me there. BUT! I have nuclear launch codes and a launch device! muahahahahahahahahah!!!! 21:16:46 * c_smith launches a nuke at the middle of the pacific ocean 21:17:07 never said where I would have it hit, did I? 21:17:46 * tgm4883 locks C4 to c_smith's chest and holds up a dead man switch 21:17:54 mutually assured destruction 21:17:59 aw..... crap. 21:18:45 * c_smith takes a ax and cuts off the arm that is holding up the C4 21:19:00 * tgm4883 tosses the dead man switch at c_smith 21:19:09 fuuuu--!!!!! 21:19:40 * c_smith is simultaniously blown to pieces and burned alive 21:20:09 * tgm4883 bows and goes back to writing a unity scope 21:20:14 lol 21:20:33 mind telling me what a Unity scope is? 21:20:55 c_smith, do you know what a Unity lens is? 21:20:59 yes. 21:21:11 ok, so the scope is the backend portions that feeds a lens 21:21:16 ah, ok 21:21:27 what is the scope for? 21:21:34 so you might have a videos lens, that is fed by a youtube scope, an amazon vod scope, etc 21:21:46 I'm writing a mythtv scope for the videos lens for UbuntuTV 21:21:52 hmmmm, cool 21:22:01 good luck! :D 21:22:45 Thanks, I've got a bunch of it done. I need Unity to get a little more mature before I can feed the lens what I'd like to, so I'm working on some zero conf stuff right now 21:28:01 ah, cool, well, time for lunch, ttyl 03:11:25 Tgonza 03:11:27 Im here 03:11:45 c_smith: You were unable to help Tgonza connect to znc? :P 04:23:12 slangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812656/ =/ 06:18:13 yellow 07:45:32 hello all 07:49:03 I think I have done it!!!!1 BWAAA HAAAA HAAAAA 07:50:05 * Bows deeply in appreciation of all that c_smith and bkerensa have done to make this magic moment possible 11:09:46 its all good 11:09:55 * bkerensa is doing some Debian work 17:05:28 kees: You about? 18:16:21 bkerensa: here now, sup? 19:44:02 kees: Ahh I was trying to package something new and in the end I found out a few depends are no longer in the Ubuntu repos so I guess Im going to abandon hope of packaging because I dont wanna also package the depends 19:44:44 heh, d'oh 19:44:53 out of curiosity, what is/was it? 19:45:36 Tux the Penguin: A quest for herring 19:45:37 :) 19:46:02 * bkerensa is trying to find a package thats not to complicated to package (something from needs-packing) 19:46:18 Every package I find though has some crazy dependencies 19:46:33 yeah, it can be frustrating. 19:47:06 what are the missing deps? 19:54:39 kees: libplib and libglut3 19:54:40 :D 19:54:49 and their -dev's 20:02:34 kees: Wait for some reason now I found them :( earlier it was telling me packages not found 20:02:55 I was going to say, those sound very familiar. 20:03:32 bkerensa: do you know about "dh_make" ? I like that for jump-starting new packages 20:06:51 kees: Thats what I'm using :) 20:07:06 I'm down to debuild 20:07:20 I got my debian files sorted but now just one last error 20:07:21 http://paste.ubuntu.com/813513/ 20:08:21 err, that's rather contentless. weird; nothing else? 20:08:31 * kees is learning django today 20:09:14 nothing but I just uncommented so it will show verbose 20:10:09 here is with verbose: 20:10:09 http://paste.ubuntu.com/813517/ 20:13:29 hrm, looks like something wasn't found during the build 20:14:04 google show any similar errors? 20:15:53 not that I can find 20:15:54 :D 20:19:19 can you find references to things defining jsJoystick ? 20:31:03 I found a solution 20:31:03 https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-games-33/cant-install-tux-a-quest-for-herring-%2Acry%2A-%5B-%2Asob%2A-make-problems-229483/ 20:31:22 but if I made the change in source would I still be able to package for Ubuntu? 20:32:06 wow those are old posts 20:32:21 absolutely -- packages that include patches to upstream are very common 20:32:43 if you're using source format 3 (which should be the default) these changes will automatically get extracted to debian/patches for you 20:33:04 * bkerensa is just trying to find which file in source they speak of 20:33:04 :D 20:33:05 (and should be renamed (and the debian/patches/series file updated too) to give some idea about what the change was) 20:33:39 it seems like the main change is the "-lplibjs" bit. seems like a some joystick library is missing? 20:33:55 indeed 22:12:20 huh, busy channel this weekend 22:12:55 bkerensa: what's your concern with apt-get upgrade holding packages back? that's what apt-get upgrade does; the question is, what does 'apt-get dist-upgrade' want to remove that you don't want it to? :) 22:24:51 yellow 22:25:16 in other words, Hello 23:31:54 btw, for anyone running oneiric and can't wait 2 days for official kernel updates: http://www.outflux.net/blog/archives/2012/01/22/fixing-vulnerabilities-with-systemtap/ 00:28:40 slangasek: more poking :) 00:39:53 kees: I'm already running precise... Well I have been running it since before Alpha 1 and UDS :) 00:40:42 bkerensa: cool 00:40:50 kind of :) 00:41:04 the power benefits seem to be real for sure 00:41:56 I want to actually do some battery life testing on 11.10 and 12.04 and see if the kernel improvements actually hold much 01:35:28 hello 04:00:00 hi 04:34:51 slangasek: Why does it seem DD's take longer to respond to BTS then say Ubuntu Devs to Launchpad? 05:58:01 bkerensa: you can claim my debian multiarch stuff if you want, i feel bad leaving them neglected an unloved 06:03:44 bkerensa: power benefits on precise? 06:04:00 tell me more :) 07:11:40 blkperl: What do you mean claim them? 07:13:58 blkperl: Well Precise uses the new kernel 3.2 07:13:59 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112097-linux-3-2-kernel-released-what-you-need-to-know 07:18:23 bkerensa: i submitted patches but they have errors :S 07:22:34 blkperl: Links to the bugs I will have a look 07:24:06 oh 07:24:09 I found them 07:24:11 weird 07:24:20 they are saying they dont need multiarch support 07:24:27 =/ 07:25:28 i think they were talking about the dev package in that one 08:03:38 slangasek | kees: <dholbach> if you all want to do me a favour, please grab a developer near you and ask if they want to give a session at UDW: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Timetable - I'm struggling a bit to get people on board this time 08:03:42 ;p 19:25:53 Good morning Oregonians 19:27:47 Hi Zenlinux 19:28:06 gm bkerensa, all 19:28:32 I don't suppose anyone here will be at the Embedded Linux Conference in Redwood City next month? 19:29:12 Likely not :P 19:29:21 might ask on mailing list though :D 19:29:57 So far my plans this year are Linux Fest NW, OSBridge, OSCON, UDS, PuppetConf 19:30:11 but that will likely expand over the next month or two 19:30:16 oh and CLS 19:30:21 * kees will be at UDS, in theory 19:30:48 I'm in the process of helping to organize this at ELC: https://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/yocto-project-developer-day 19:37:09 kees: What is in theory? :P 19:37:54 * bkerensa will be there in theory too I guess.... I'm applying for sponsorship while even if Canonical does not sponsor I will also try and figure it out on my own either way :P 19:38:27 bkerensa: just that I don't have flights, etc. My intention is to go, but I need to actually getting it scheduled. 19:38:50 kees: I hope to take a train I dont much like planes 19:58:01 cool 20:06:00 bkerensa: ping 20:06:56 albrigha: sup? 20:07:42 bkerensa: I'm going to try and take a train down to UDS as well, my wife knows someone at amtrak so I can check if we could get a group rate or something perhaps? 20:09:28 that might be cool 20:10:02 I'm not sure how UDS sponsorship works but I think if they sponsor me I just tell them how I plan to travel etc and they pay for it or reimburse me 20:10:13 yeah I'm not sure either 20:10:17 I think you are right though 20:10:25 I think you are covered 100% arent you? 20:10:26 just an idea :) 20:10:29 yeah I think so 20:10:34 but I still want to try and get a good rate 20:10:37 yeah I think its even mandatory for you to go 20:10:38 :D 20:10:43 not sure :P 20:10:46 yeah I think it is actually lol 20:11:18 yeah I hope even if I get sponsored to save canonical on hotel cost by staying with someone down there :P 20:11:34 that's a good idea 20:11:40 I don't really know anyone in Oakland 20:11:48 I have some friends in LA, but that doesn't help 20:11:58 Well I have family in the bay area and I know people in the bay area 20:12:11 ah awesome! 20:13:08 too my knowledge some good parties are already being discussed :) 20:13:23 haha 20:13:34 I've heard it's a very busy but fun time 20:13:55 yeah 20:14:20 I hope to sync up with developers and try and continue my learning so I can contribute better :P 20:14:46 also would like to sync up with other Ubuntu Leadership team folks and people I work with on other teams 20:17:03 hrm, does the coastal starlight have power for coach seats? amtrak's website doesn't seem to think so. 20:17:13 ? 20:17:46 like Electricity? 20:18:00 Im unsure... I know the one from PDX to Seattle does 20:18:07 but I hear the wifi is epic horrible 20:19:47 17 hours by train 20:19:50 epic fun 20:20:08 I think Greyhound is faster than that sadly 20:20:13 17 hours really? 20:20:14 hm 20:20:28 maybe I'll just take a plane 20:20:35 I'm not fond of flying.. 20:20:38 but a few hours vs 17.. 20:21:09 but I bet there are some amazing things to see on the train 20:21:19 yeah it goes through the country 20:21:24 how long is it up to seattle? 20:21:25 I wanna go train just to see it 20:21:34 yeah I'd like to see that as well 20:21:42 albrigha: idk not quite as long 21:06:41 albrigha: I just found out that 33 goes to Oregon City 21:07:26 is that the one that stops at clackamas? 21:08:04 there is one I've taken from clackamas mall. but it takes nearly 45 min..which seems like a long time for such a seemingly short distance 21:08:24 albrigha: Yeah I guess 21:08:36 my friend who is from OC said the 33 goes out there 21:09:03 Hrm, I thought the 33 just went down mccloughlin 21:10:11 But that's not a route I ride 21:46:42 uhh? 21:46:49 somehow I left the channe;l 21:46:50 lol 21:47:36 what! how could you! 21:48:39 albrigha: nathwill is working on us having a talk at Yahoo it was supposed to be this month but due to the time frame it was pushed... Would you be interested in talking? 21:48:40 :P 21:49:09 hm talking..well I'm not against it 21:49:17 if we did some major planning 21:49:21 what would you want to do a talk on? 22:32:35 hello all 22:32:45 sorry stepped out for a bit 23:21:33 albrigha: Well on contributing to Ubuntu and your experience as a user and enterprise? 23:21:34 :D 23:22:05 Oh I see 23:22:40 well I'd do it if you want. I just might want some ideas, etc 23:23:50 albrigha: When I get all the fine details sorted I will let you know 23:23:56 oki 23:23:59 btw... I oddly met a Ubuntu User today 23:24:09 eegads! 23:24:10 he came up from Oregon City to buy something from me 23:24:15 ha really? 23:24:19 and saw my Ubuntu hat and Ubuntu tattoo 23:24:23 yep 23:24:40 that's funny 23:24:53 I'm trying to figure out what I want my next tat to be. 23:25:02 I have him one of my Ubuntu Business Cards and told him to hit me up for info on the loco and so he can come to our release party 23:25:11 my aunt does tattoos (professionally) so if anyone wants some sort of a discount, if you are into that sort of thing 23:25:11 albrigha: A Circle of Friends? :) 23:25:19 oh awesome! 23:25:32 actually I'm thinking about that (ubuntu relateD) 23:25:51 I paid $100 for my Ubuntu Tattoo and I'm hoping to get Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Lubuntu etc added in 23:26:00 around it? 23:26:02 a whole sleeve 23:26:04 that's a great idea 23:26:18 then maybe something to fill in like source code 23:26:19 :D 23:26:25 haha 23:26:51 maybe grab some Unity source and have that be the filler :D 23:27:21 that's awesome. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to do a sleeve..at least not yet 23:27:52 why? Work? Cost? :) 23:28:19 I know people quite a handful of people in FOSS who have excellent jobs and have exposed ink 23:28:28 hm 23:28:40 well I guess neither are really a problem. other than having it exposed, etc 23:28:49 ha 23:28:52 I searched for ubuntu tattoo 23:28:57 and you are the first few links :P 23:29:53 I was thinking the voyager star map on my back 23:30:32 heh 23:31:11 albrigha: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Netflix+on+Linux 23:31:52 bkerensa: was that for me? lol 23:31:57 I've given up trying to get it to work for now 23:32:02 I just bought a Roku 23:32:12 it's awesome 23:32:19 lol nah I was pointing out my blog comes up in top results for that search 23:32:30 in fact almost every result on that page links to my blog :P 23:32:52 haha! 23:32:56 that's awesome 23:33:30 actually 23:33:35 I might want some tips from you.. 23:33:41 the Ubuntu QA team wants to start blogging, etc 23:33:50 they dont already? :) 23:33:53 and I'd like to contribute. so if you have some suggestions? 23:33:55 no they don't 23:33:59 well 23:34:01 qa.ubuntu.com 23:34:11 there was some stuff posted, but no one knows he did it or what it is about 23:34:19 he=who 23:34:46 lol 23:34:52 I went through yesterday and cleaned out all the comments awaiting approval. it was all spam. (14,000!) 23:35:25 imho (No offense Canonical folks) but from what I have seen so far none of the Canonical blog posts get any comments 23:35:26 :D 23:35:32 I often am the only commenter 23:36:23 But yeah if you tips let me know.... I can see the QA blog is running Wordpress 23:37:00 I haven't really looked at any other canonical blogs 23:37:21 but my thought is, if we are going to blog something, qa related, what do we blog that's interesting? 23:37:29 I mean I'd like to contribute 23:39:17 Well QA is just doing testing of Ubuntu right? 23:39:38 yes, and getting the automation setup, tracking progress, etc 23:39:41 I'm not sure what Canonical's QA focus is what kind of QA you guys do 23:39:45 ahh 23:40:49 Hmm.... Well imho if you were to blog it would be nice to see visuals and technical posts 23:41:04 screenshots and discussion on what you guys are working on 23:41:15 maybe do a weekly recap of what the entire team is doing 23:41:40 those are great ideas! 23:42:56 also maybe discuss problems you guys run into and how you are able to solve them like totally reproduce it in a blog post 23:43:14 put people in a Canonical QA engineers shoes 23:45:10 do you get a lot of hits on your website a day? 23:56:15 do you aggregate to planet ubuntu? 00:03:33 albrigha: http://i.imgur.com/8MmNY.png 00:03:48 My cloud :) 00:06:32 wow that's awesome 00:07:46 yeps :D 00:07:50 all Ubuntu servers 00:11:26 hey you test protohardware as well? (how the heck do you keep track of everything you are working on!?) 00:11:32 or wait 00:11:34 you review it? 00:12:09 I review stuff 00:12:21 but not so much anymore been getting too busy :) 00:12:55 seriously I think I see you everywhere. all at the same time. 00:13:21 :( I know sometimes I want to hide under a rock :D 00:13:37 in fact Im going to step off for a cocktail now ttyl :D 00:13:43 okay ttyl! 05:17:14 Albrigha: about tattoos I am going to be getting married and we would like a simple tat on our fingers would your aunt be into giving us a price quote on that? 05:17:43 albrigha: and possible doing it at the wedding? 05:22:34 albrigha: we have no date just some preliminary thinking 05:22:40 hello all 05:23:04 bkerensa: you here? 05:38:33 I was wondering what I needed to do to be added to the team list on Wiki? 05:38:52 Not a big deal just curious. 07:06:46 I keep hitting the chat when it's dead 07:06:52 lame!!!! 07:07:12 Hope to get lucky tomorrow 14:58:35 good morning 15:40:53 ttyl 15:41:33 wait I didn't talk to any one. hee hee 15:41:38 AFK 17:49:05 Anyone know Matthew Revell? 20:56:28 Was Oregon Team approved? 21:18:59 MarkDude: Per bkerensa's email, "I regret to inform you that the ubuntu LoCo Council decided to decline our application..." We need more of a history. 21:25:47 shirgall, which channel do they meet in 21:26:30 MarkDude: Meeting was a long time ago, but I don't know what channel it was in. bkerensa would know. 21:27:02 I know 21:27:13 The non- approval is my fault 21:27:20 * MarkDude pissed off a few on the council 21:27:31 Oregon team has activity 21:27:44 PNW was killed by coucill in a lie 21:27:55 Other teams are non state teams 21:28:14 * MarkDude is now back in Ubuntu in official manner 21:28:39 As a man of his word, he has no choice 21:33:29 * MarkDude will go back to what was being done before Oregon was promised fair treatement 21:34:00 Requesting logs and decisions made regarding PNW contraction 21:34:14 as welll as secretive meetings council had me go to 21:34:18 With no logs 21:34:38 the Coucil does not want to be logged, but the requires other to do so- 21:35:33 The reasons for non-approval are not based in fact, they need to help with providing info. 21:35:46 Probably because of the high likelihood of interpersonal issues being raised. 21:35:48 Of course anything under NDA is STILL under NDA 21:35:57 No one likes to have that kind of conversation linger 21:36:15 Well if the council wanted this to not linger 21:36:29 they would have approved Oregon 21:36:52 I don't know, I'm not involved in that stuff, other than I do go to UDS on occasion. 21:36:53 Took me 2+ years to get lead removed from another project 21:37:10 Turned out the reasons given were false 21:37:25 If you repeat it enough - it does not get closer to truth 21:37:46 * MarkDude is at *sunlight is best disinfectant* phase 21:49:15 heyo 22:30:39 Hey there c_smith 04:52:12 Hi MarkDude 04:54:14 HEy there 04:54:24 Looks like a change of plans 04:54:36 * MarkDude was given advice 04:55:05 advice being decisions were made in private relating to PNW team 04:55:27 This falls under CoC 04:55:42 The Council was surely mistaken 04:56:33 I mean if they are trying to say that NO ONE over two years was able to get presence and CDs ot rep UBuntu at OSCON 04:56:42 that would be surely shortsighted 04:56:53 Well I stepped up for that 04:56:58 Had otheres help 04:57:07 Did so as Oregonian 04:57:20 * MarkDude was NOT member of Cali team 04:57:44 So let me know what channel- 04:57:58 is it the secret channel- or a logged one? 05:00:28 Hmm? 05:00:29 Idk 05:00:47 Its not worth battling over honestly we will just re-apply in 6-8 months like they said 05:00:51 http://www.jonobacon.org/2007/07/31/usa-wide-approved-locos-by-the-end-of-the-year-lets-do-it/ 05:00:55 thats a interesting post 05:01:10 that was in 2007 they wanted all locos approved in the U.S. by end of year 05:01:21 but its now years later and somehow not enough history? 05:02:53 Well, I know I dont represnt the team 05:03:05 But I plan to write about this all 05:03:53 Ubuntu was soo busy trying to get on TVs, they could not figure out how to get Ubuntu folks a table at OSCON 05:04:03 Oregon Team got them there 05:04:16 after they had killed PNW 05:04:20 ok well as Team Lead and per Discussion with Nathwill who is Asst. Team Lead we just feel the best thing we can do is give it our all and try again down the road. They asked if we would continue if denied and we told them yes because in the end we dont exist as a loco essentially for peer approval... We exist because we love FOSS and Ubuntu 05:04:44 Dont get me wrong I dont plan on bringing a pissing contest ;) 05:05:09 I told two of the loco council members in private however that I was deeply disappointed by their decision and I pointed out other approvals they have made for teams that may have done less and had limited history and they agreed and said the process needs improvement 05:05:29 Or as I said a while ago 05:05:41 the emperor wears no clothes 05:05:41 I think a blog post on loco approval transparency and clear standards for all loco's might be of interest 05:05:42 :D 05:05:55 And thats not meaning Mark S either 05:05:56 The emperor must get cold 05:06:03 oh I know :) 05:06:05 The process wears no clothes 05:06:11 the community has many emperors :P 05:06:21 The CoC is TP 05:06:39 People assume if its not in there it means free anything 05:06:53 Arbitrary 05:07:03 Its so arbitrary 05:07:21 I am going to put some of this in TOSW book 05:07:30 But remove the Ubuntu name 05:07:40 to protect the innocent, etc 05:07:55 There are a few lessons to be learned here. 05:08:43 But if you guys are ok with being patient and waiting more time than you deserve, I can only honor your wishes 05:10:29 * MarkDude is considering getting F tattoo btw 05:17:41 hello all 05:21:59 Hey there TRAVISg 05:24:00 hi 23:19:42 bkerensa you think you could kick down some ubuntu stickers for my laptop? I would love to be promoting it. 23:20:22 I guess that is really just to any one I need some stickers I wear my 11.10 shirt as much as I can but would love more conversation starters 23:20:54 I have the official Ubuntu book on hold at the Library too. I am plugging away. 23:27:17 Good Afternoon Oregonians 23:27:19 TRAVISg: Let me check if I have any tomorrow.... I'm actually possibly moving next week so I will be looking through everything :P 23:28:55 If I don't have any I will buy some more and give you a sheet 23:29:27 hi hi 23:34:01 hi 00:30:51 bkerensa: you helped with the ubuntu weekly newsletter? 00:31:49 hello 00:32:07 * c_smith is using Kubuntu with GLX Dock 00:36:59 albrigha: Yeah I help with UWN and Ubuntu Developer News 00:37:07 among other many other things :P 00:37:11 eck 00:37:15 fail 00:38:23 * c_smith is back 00:39:09 so, how is everyone? 00:40:24 * shirgall just got his PMI-ACP certificate 00:41:22 what's a PMI-ACP Cert? 00:42:32 https://plus.google.com/photos/113030465347243519078/albums/5701734573192511473 00:42:59 c_smith: http://www.pmi.org/en/Certification/New-PMI-Agile-Certification.aspx 00:43:08 bkerensa: I wasn't tooo surprised to see your name. but I really have no idea how you do it all. 00:43:22 albrigha: I'm pretty sure he does not sleep 00:43:22 shirgall, ah, I see, congrats! :D 00:43:31 albrigha: It requires lots of hours and sacrificing other things 00:43:46 shirgall: Oh I sleep just not the hours of a normal human being :) 00:44:02 haha 00:44:07 shirgall: So does that certificate focus on like product management or projects? 00:44:13 bkerensa, so you are an android? :P 00:44:31 bkerensa: Both of my certs are related to projects, although some of the project sI work on are definitely making products 00:44:38 cool 00:45:27 shirgall: Do you plan to come to the 12.04 release? The amount of Canonical folks coming to events is growing :D 00:46:18 bkerensa: The release party? I always try, but I often end up busy those same weekends. 00:46:28 * c_smith wants some Linux posters for his room and a poster that says "Ubuntu User at work" for his door 00:47:05 c_smith: spreadubuntu.org has some good ones you could likely print at Kinkos for not more than a few dollars 00:47:05 :) 00:47:16 I intend to try to make it up to the 12.04 Release Party, 00:47:27 bkerensa, thanks for the info. 00:47:40 * bkerensa is hoping to get this certification http://womma.org/communitymanager/ 00:48:06 I might do CSM or CSPO as my next ones. 00:49:58 bkerensa: wow that's great 00:50:31 I'm shooting for the ubuntu cert. and lpic. 00:50:51 yeah, lpic is a good one 00:52:27 * c_smith is looking forward to the 22nd of February 00:52:52 anyone care to know what that is? 00:54:12 Drew Berrymores birthday? 00:57:54 nope, my B-day. 00:58:18 how old will you be? 01:02:01 albrigha: What? What Ubuntu Cert? 01:06:32 albrigha: We have the LPI Certification book in the LoCo Library if you want to borrow it 01:14:57 albrigha, I'll be 20. 01:15:15 * c_smith continues to look at Android tablets 01:15:28 found one, now to check Craigslist. 01:17:59 bkerensa: the..ubuntu professional 01:28:16 Craigslist: nothing, all of them are in Portland. 01:29:02 is http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Coby+-+Kyros+MID7120-4G+7%22+4+GB+Tablet+Computer+-+Wi-Fi+-+800+MHz/4260033.p?id=1218466809058&skuId=4260033&st=android%20tablet&cp=1&lp=3 any good? 01:36:13 hm 01:36:15 not sure.. 01:36:20 I've just ordered a fire 01:36:32 the coby has kinda bad reviews anyway 01:36:50 for a few bucks more the fire is way better imv.. at least from the reviews 01:38:33 does Kindle Fire run Android? 01:43:52 plus, looking at the Kindle Fire, looks like it's a little out of my price range. 01:50:20 c_smith: The version of Androin on the Kindle Fire is somewhat locked down 01:50:29 c_smith: but you can sideload .apks if you want to 01:50:43 c_smith: the verison of Android, however, is somewhat old 01:50:51 c_smith: and the UI is replaced 01:50:56 c_smith: Will there be a Salem Ubuntu Hour this week if so might you ping the mailing list about it. Btw keep up the good work... I'm going to have to send you something cool soon for your hardwork 01:51:31 You might be able to find Acer Iconias at a decent price if you poke around 01:52:05 My wife snagged a Acer Iconia A500 10" tablet for $200 used 01:52:36 * shirgall has a Fire 01:52:38 Radioshack has some low-end androids for $100 (at least they did a few months back) 01:52:55 * bkerensa dislikes tablets and refuses to own one :) 01:53:11 bkerensa: Someday they might get better. :) 01:53:25 I think if I had to talk at a convention I might get a ipad because it seems speakers use them a lot 01:53:53 bkerensa: The interesting trend at NAMM this year is a series of mixers with iPad interfaces. Mackie and Behringer both announced them. 01:54:17 interesting 01:54:58 When I played sound engineer's assistant I was in college (late 80's). Things have changed a bit. :) 01:55:02 imho if you have a laptop and smartphone why own a Tablet? I could not justify the limited use I would get out of a tablet 01:55:34 bkerensa: Well, for me I wanted more screen real estate to read books and play Scrabble with my wife. :) 01:55:54 bkerensa: Much more portable than my laptop in that sense. 01:56:08 bkerensa: I can get a Fire in my jean and coat pockets. 01:57:14 Bkerensa, the Salem Ubuntu Hour is still happening. 02:29:46 excellent c_smith 02:30:26 c_smith: I was just going to ask... Why do you PGP sign all your e-mail? :) 02:30:57 * bkerensa only signs e-mail in the case that it is of major importance 02:33:40 bkerensa, dunno 02:33:49 should I stop doing so? 02:36:18 c_smith: I guess that is personal preference.... I use a key obviously for signing my uploads, patches etc but I dont see a major need to sign e-mail unless your e-mail concerns something important like transferring data or info that you need to authenticate your identity 02:36:40 Maybe shirgall can help me out? Do you sign all of you e-mail? 02:38:17 hmmmm, makes sense. 02:39:58 <pleia2> bkerensa: I don't sign any of it 02:39:59 <pleia2> I only use gpg for debian package signing and as an encryption method (I'll email gpg encrypted files to specific recipients so only they can open them) 02:40:06 c_smith: ^ 02:40:29 thats pretty much the norm 02:40:34 hmmmm, ok 02:40:40 so say you needed to send me some closed source code 02:40:49 then you could encrypt it that way only I could open it 02:40:49 :) 02:40:53 cool 02:41:28 thanks for the heads up. 02:41:46 bkerensa: I don't sign all of my email, just the official stuff 02:42:03 bkerensa: I do GPG sign things when it's needed 02:42:08 I have changed the Enigmail setup to only send it when I call for it. 02:42:29 bkerensa: Because I use gmail, I am limited in what's automatic for me 02:42:38 yeah... 02:50:36 bkerensa, it seems Linux Journal has gone to digital subscriptions only. 02:55:04 also, is the BSP being integrated into the 12.04 Release Party still a possibility> 02:55:58 *? 03:10:02 c_smith: They went digital quite awhile ago 03:10:52 c_smith: Well a BSP is technically a Debian event... Ubuntu we just call them jams :P But yes I hope to have a technical focus for those interested and those who are not can just socialize 03:14:22 ah, ok 03:15:34 integrating that kind of stuff with a release party should be interesting, I'll definitely take part in it and try to learn something from it. 03:16:17 what's the generally accepted language for bug squishing? C? C++? 03:17:54 what do you mean? 03:18:29 You do not necessarily need to know a language to do bug fixes unless the problem is in the code 03:18:56 ah, ok, I was wondering what it would take to get my feet wet in bug squishing. 03:19:09 if its the code versus a bitesize or something trivial then you would need to know the language the application is written in which could be anything from C to Python to something else 03:20:13 that's what I needed to know, I know nothing of fixing bugs, but I would like to try. 03:21:21 bitesize bug fixes is a good place to start is your not familiar with programming 03:21:50 something can be simple like typos in the debian/control 03:22:09 to much more complex things like code that needs improvement 03:25:20 hmmm, ok 05:19:56 bkerensa: so if you don't sign all your emails, how do you refute a forged unsigned email that purports to be from you? 05:21:34 Granted, I started doing it a decade ago out of trying make to make sure email infrastructure supported and because mutt makes it very easy to do so, but still. 06:16:23 sbeattie: Very good question. I don't anticipate a coordinated attack on my identity in the near future or an attempt to impersonate me via forged mail 06:17:09 The simplest way for me to refute it though is by looking at the mail headers and proving that the source ip's were forged 06:19:20 sbeattle: Btw thanks for joining us on IRC :) 06:25:16 * sbeattie makes a note to forge an email from bkerensa at UDS if bkerensa makes it. 06:25:30 :-) 06:37:59 Mind you, I've had friends who signed every email for a while, and then stopped signing them, and waited to see if anyone noticed. No one did. 07:39:41 ugh nautilus is acting abnormal 07:39:42 :D 08:11:54 c_smith: Tomorrow I would love to touch base with you on the Ubuntu Developer News work if you are interested still let me know 14:26:27 bkerensa, forgot I had Xchat still open when I went to sleep, but I'll hit you up on the Ubuntu Developer News at around Noon. I have been trying to get a hold of you for a while about that for a while (Forgot to ask you about it yesterday.) 15:29:19 bkerensa I remember you saying something about not needing to stay logged in on xchat if I was logged in through znc but I have not seen the conversations I miss when I do 15:29:36 hmm 15:29:44 TRAVISg: I will check that setting promptly 15:29:52 I am going to try it again today. I just hate missing things. 15:30:09 bkerensa thankyou sir YO ROCK!!!! 15:30:15 or YOU ROCK 15:31:09 TRAVISg: Should now work 15:31:29 *bows deeeply 15:32:02 bkenernsa thanks 15:32:10 bkerensa thanks 15:32:30 All right I am off to work 16:15:19 Ubuntu 12.04 Development Update: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/ubuntu-12-04-development-update-11/ 16:21:10 good morning albrigha 16:21:18 good morning! 16:25:25 evolution or thunderbird? 16:25:28 or something else? 16:25:30 I can't decide.. 16:25:49 I'm using evolution now..but used thunderbird in the past. 16:25:54 not sure if I'm happy with evo 16:29:23 I use thunderbird 16:29:29 evo imho is horrible 16:35:06 okay I'm gonna work on switching thanks :) evo just seems..so clunky. 16:35:43 heh 16:35:51 thats why they removed it from 12.04 16:35:55 nobody uses it 16:36:13 I haven't used it before..figured I'd give it a try. but I can see why 16:36:46 (why no one uses it) 20:09:50 yo 20:10:24 bkerensa, are you available for discussing the Ubuntu Dev News? 20:10:59 yes 20:11:00 :) 20:11:13 * bkerensa just got off phone from turning power on at my new place 20:11:13 :D 20:11:32 c_smith: So the idea with Ubuntu Dev News is we work in a Google Docs setting 20:11:56 Every week we publish on Thursday in the early A.M. so all work and contributions are best to be done by Wednesday night 20:12:18 We have one document called "Next Issue" and another called "Next Issue Planning" 20:12:44 Next Issue Planning is regularly updated with the Launchpad ID's of users who have recently uploaded code or a package for the first time 20:12:59 We aim to interview a first time development contribute every week in a spotlight 20:13:09 As such we send e-mails weekly with interview questions 20:13:45 In addition to these interviews we also look at a Google Calendar of events and highlight any development related events coming up in the week 20:13:57 and we also summarize stuff occuring in the precise release schedule 20:14:22 all of this is well documented in the google doc "Next Issue Planning" and much of it is copy past and writing short summaries 20:14:44 ah, that doesn't sound too hard. 20:15:13 not like I'm writing a novel. 20:15:22 nope 20:15:24 its pretty easy 20:15:30 in fact if you go to omgubuntu 20:15:37 you can see the Dev News for this week 20:15:49 its posted there and on fridge.ubuntu.com every week 20:15:57 so you can see that the format never changes much 20:16:15 think I have a link for the fridge.ubuntu.com on Choqok. 20:16:36 if you are interested in doing this.... dholbach who is the Developer Community Manager guy at Canonical and I would like to setup a Google+ Hangout soon just to talk.... 20:16:50 Ill let him know since he is sleeping now 20:16:54 cool, I;m up for this. 20:17:00 it would be pretty late night I think or early morning 20:17:04 since he is in Germany 20:17:04 :) 20:17:14 I think he comes on at 11pm our time 20:17:26 but he stays on till like 7-8am our time too 20:17:26 :D 20:18:35 hmmmm, gonna have to keep it to where I'm not I'm not waking everyone up, the one I'm worried about is Jim, as he's a light sleeper. 20:18:49 mmmmmm...... burrito. 20:19:59 bkerensa, you may have to school me on G+ hangouts, never even been in one hosted by another person, 23:34:56 hello any body here? 23:37:28 hey TRAVISg I am, sorta 23:37:39 hee hee 23:37:56 Congrats I hear are in order 00:03:17 Congrats! 00:03:26 * tgm4883 isn't sure what we are partying about 00:09:15 Ok guys I'm out I have to gather some sleep.... I have been running on empty and am moving this weekend ttyl 00:56:41 bkerensa, when was the Hangout with the Community Manager? I won't be able to do this today, but tomorrow would be perfect. 03:54:34 Test Test Test 04:48:44 bkerensa, are you around? 06:18:57 Test Travis 06:19:06 c_smith: Kind of 06:19:08 whats up? 06:19:35 nope 06:19:48 bkerensa nope 06:20:20 are you sure 06:20:26 your not having any scrollback? 06:20:33 hmm 06:20:37 let me try one last thing 06:21:01 I can scroll back but only to the time I was logged on 06:21:50 TRAVISg: go ahead and disconnect now 06:22:01 All raight 06:22:22 TESTING 123 06:22:24 123 06:22:25 321 06:22:26 .... 06:22:57 works like a charm 06:23:03 k 06:23:13 thank you so much that's great 06:24:12 You are a wizard or ninja of sorts pick your preferred mythical hero 06:25:25 bkerensa didn't you once say that you had a copy of the official Ubuntu book I could possible borrow? 06:26:02 any body here? 06:28:22 umm 06:28:35 I think we have one in the Library if not I can get one 06:28:42 I could likely get many 06:28:42 :P) 06:29:00 but technically there should be a copy in our ever growing library 07:01:38 I would love to get it for a bit 07:01:54 I just put two and two together 07:02:46 bkerensa how are you getting spotify to post to facebook? I am running it through wine and have to disable it's social features 07:03:05 bkerensa wait you are using premium? 07:04:25 gotta run but thanks to you I can read anything you post whenI log back in thanks again 19:23:14 hello all 23:27:52 heyo 23:50:40 slangasek: ping 23:56:46 hi nibalizer 00:00:29 who's nibalizer? 00:01:58 * c_smith is rockeing Gnome classic with Emerald decorators 00:02:05 *rocking 00:02:45 c_smith: i'm nibz 00:02:49 i'm from PSU 00:03:03 bkerensa, is there anything I need to know when I am in a hangout that isn't general for the internetz 00:03:03 slangasek: is giving an upstart talk at our school today 00:03:14 nibalizer, ah, ok 00:03:35 bkerensa: Uhh you have a webcam yes? Otherwise no its just a virtual conference 00:03:57 bkerensa, lol, nice telling that to yourself, jk 00:03:59 nibalizer: Oh? Yeah didnt blkperl set that up 00:04:35 but yes, I have a webcam set up on top of the TV I have that I use as a second monitor for my lapto 00:04:49 k 00:05:04 My application for UDS Sponsorship is now in 00:05:05 :D 00:05:17 awesome. 00:05:24 where is UDS this year? 00:05:30 *time 00:06:33 bkerensa, is there anything I need to do to set the Webcam up with G+? 00:08:42 no 00:09:00 its flash based and will just start up with the push of a button 00:15:27 cool 00:26:17 Bkerensa Looks like for my class at wou you are my mentor. 00:38:50 bkerensa: yeap 01:59:07 * c_smith shouts hello to the channel 02:09:04 cweber10: Excellent. I'm going to be slightly busy this weekend because I'm moving (different part of Portland) However I'm thinking if you have any questions till Monday you could e-mail them and when I have a break this weekend I can respond? 02:09:53 bkerensa, cweber is here at Broadway Commons Coffeehouse with me. 02:10:29 c_smith: Excellent. You guys talking about anything interesting at the Ubuntu Hour? Anyone else show up from WOU? 02:10:44 only cweber here. 02:10:50 JVLB is here too 02:11:11 oh cool :D 02:11:14 yup, 02:11:17 still quiet. 02:11:29 I myself only just got here about 10 minutes ago. 02:11:31 c_smith: Ok well I think Becka said she might have more students from WOU come 02:11:33 so 02:11:34 idk 02:11:35 :D 02:11:44 hopefully more students will come on IRC too 02:11:51 cool 02:12:00 cweber10: How big is your class? 02:14:05 think total class is 30 and each lab is 15 but not sure of evact numbers 02:15:09 cweber10: Is there a syllabus? Did she mention IRC here or the Ubuntu Hour? 02:16:17 yea they have been mentioned. no we dont have a real syllabus becuse this is compleltly new 02:16:38 wed we played with bazaar 02:17:43 awesome 02:17:52 one of these days maybe play with IRC 02:17:52 :D 02:20:01 bkerensa, acording to Cweber, the Salem Public Library MIGHT want us to pay (like they tried with the Salem LUG) not sure about classes with that though. 02:20:49 We will find another place if that is the case 02:21:36 cweber has had the idea of Clockworks. 02:22:32 tell jvlb hello 02:22:33 :D 02:22:37 and we miss him on IRC 02:22:38 :D 02:22:51 we did irc but most people forget about it. 02:24:41 heh 02:29:20 bkerensa: G+ isn't flash based, which is why it does work with webcams :) 02:32:15 slangasek: What do you mean it is not? 02:32:51 bkerensa: it uses its own plugin 02:32:57 the google-talkplugin 02:33:03 hmms 02:33:15 what is it html5 then? 02:33:36 hmm? 02:34:01 the plugin I was wondering what powers it 02:34:01 google hangouts are their own thing 02:34:11 it's a browser plugin 02:34:22 i.e., a compiled binary 02:34:41 happens to be written in C++ 02:35:00 nice 02:35:07 this whole time I thought it was flash 02:35:07 :D 02:36:19 c_smith: You around? 02:37:11 Si. 02:37:27 the hangout loaded. 02:37:44 but will be 3 minutes on the debian package. 02:38:05 lol 02:43:39 what's up? 07:01:07 hello sbeattie 09:43:34 hello all 16:56:21 hi all 01:07:23 sudo apt-get install move 05:13:17 hello 17:56:43 ugh moving 01:11:33 kees, are you canonical? 02:36:49 tgm4883: Not anymore :) 02:36:51 He works on awesomeness :P 02:36:59 ah 02:37:13 Well I'm all moved into my new place :D Internet is working (Most important thing right?) 02:37:49 tgm4883: http://outflux.net/prof/resume.php 02:38:23 nice 02:39:11 tgm4883: But it would seem this channels Canonical numbers are increasing 02:39:12 :D 02:39:21 bkerensa, ah 02:39:32 * tgm4883 has a phone interview with canonical tomorrow 02:39:40 cweber10: Ping me and let me know what times and days will work best for checkins and mentoring for you 02:39:48 tgm4883: Dont tell me QA? 02:39:49 :D 02:40:12 nope, support 02:40:26 for launchpad it seems 02:40:28 tgm4883: Thats much better in my book :P 02:40:33 oh cool :) 02:40:41 Canonical needs more people on the LP team 02:41:05 I've also got an offer from the local community college, I need to find out what types of things canonical offers 02:41:15 tgm4883: Knock em dead. 02:41:25 I'll try :) 02:41:37 tgm4883: Well obviously I dont work for Canonical but I have heard of some of the stuff they offer 02:41:48 but I hear it differ per candidate 02:41:48 :D 02:42:09 all I've heard is competitive pay based on where you live 02:42:16 which doesn't say alot 02:43:54 tgm4883: might wanna ask albrigha (I'm not sure how much they can talk about their packages) he is a new hire but has been with the loco for a long time 02:43:55 D: 02:44:02 also 02:44:03 http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/nm0n0/working_for_canonical/ 02:44:44 yea I've seen that thread 02:46:39 imho the biggest perk is you can work from home for most positions.... You get paid comparable (so I hear) the average for the position in the sector and you get to travel for sprints, uds.... I'm unsure about 401k, health etc in fact I would bet because they are international that they might just compensate you higher so you can seek those things on your own but thats a best guess :) 02:47:28 yea that was my guess as well 02:47:53 I mean it would be too complicated for them to establish HMO's and benefits in all the countries they have employees 02:48:08 I hear you get free premium U1 :P 02:48:29 bkerensa, I've heard you get free landscape 02:49:06 yeah 02:49:32 I hear its free services across the board plus you can pretty much request Ubuntu swag on demand to a level of reasonableness 02:50:01 I require a Ubuntu Jet! 02:50:05 heh 02:50:16 I think the company only has a Shuttle 02:50:17 :P 04:28:56 bkerensa: want to come advertise ubuntu oregon at psu? 08:36:48 I added myself to the Wiki and then did a little housekeeping just went by the note to have everyone in order of city by number of members and then alphabet let me know if I was out of whack I have never changed a Wiki before 15:15:48 blkperl: In what way and when? :) 15:15:50 Does it require a talk? :P 15:31:56 I don't know if it requires a talk? 15:32:48 I just read the note about grouping by city and then alphabetically ........ wait a second I just realized that was about PSU 15:33:31 By the way if anyone wanted to brief me I would love to go with some one else to PSU or something like that 15:33:44 I love meeting people and speaking 15:37:53 TRAVISg: I'm sure it looks fine and we are still planning a major wiki transformation that will result in that roster being moved to its own page 15:46:29 jhmextern: Hello :) 15:46:54 hello bkerensa 15:50:27 jhmextern: How are things going? 15:51:43 We have a group of five people here in the coast, and we are looking for a place where we can do maybe a monthly meeting. 15:52:37 We were thinking another event like an install fest, but we are still in the planing stage 15:53:02 jhmextern: Oh excellent. In Newport right? Please do send some photos if you guys have a meetup and let the mailing list know so others might join in 15:54:00 Yes, in Newport, as soon as we have an event or meetup we will send some pictures 15:56:25 excellent :) 17:43:06 anbody here? 17:43:17 This is TRAVISg 18:36:20 Hi TRAVISg :) 21:19:31 tgm4883: Did you do your call yet? 21:19:54 yea 21:20:16 Didn't go so well :/ 21:21:54 tgm4883: I was going to mention that Canonical uhh has turned down a few really talented local folks 21:22:24 mrevell was pretty cool about it, sent me an email about 30 minutes after the call saying that he would have left my application open but since I already had another job offer locally he didn't want to leave me hanging 21:22:46 ahh Matt Revell interviewed you? :) 21:22:51 yea 21:23:13 hmm :( 21:23:22 yeah he is product manager for Launchpad 21:23:23 :D 21:23:27 Apparently there were more qualified candidates, although I'm ADV team working support for Symantec, so IDK 21:23:35 heh 21:23:47 There aren't many people above me in our support organization 21:24:31 They turned down someone I know who is Senior Sysadmin for a major company here in Portland with a very similiar excuse 21:24:32 :D 21:25:04 yep, oh well. Guess that just makes my decision up for me 21:25:06 Mind you he was applying fr a regular sysadmin job and just saw working from home as a perk to taking a small pay decrease and yet they turned him down 21:25:07 :D 21:26:19 tgm4883: I think the foot in seems to be getting recommended by someone who is already work there 21:26:48 bkerensa: sometimes. sometimes not, it all depends on who's doing the hiring. 21:27:34 lol :P 21:27:34 :D 21:28:24 sbeattie: Well I know Canonical has some outstanding people working for them 21:28:25 :) 21:28:45 bkerensa: yeah, but it also has people like me working for them, too. :-) 21:29:11 sbeattie: You don't consider yourself outstanding :P 21:29:28 * bkerensa pings sabdfl :P 21:30:00 idk from the people I have met so far and some I have know over IRC for awhile I like the diversity and skill level 21:32:15 tgm4883: I'm not sure why you want to leave Symantec except for maybe that they are outside of Portland right? 21:55:54 bkerensa, I'm driving to Springfield from Salem every day 21:55:55 :/ 21:59:24 Wow 21:59:25 :D 21:59:43 tgm4883: Now I understand... Thats intense 22:00:18 tgm4883: Doesn't Symantec have a location up here in Portland? I think one of the ORLUG guys works at it 22:51:08 bkerensa, we bought some cloud company up there 22:51:13 and we have sales in beaverton 22:51:27 hmm 22:52:23 tgm4883: Consider maybe trying to switch to the cloud division? :) I'm sure you're capable of sysadming right? :P 22:52:41 PuppetLabs is hiring too :D 22:55:05 most things I've looked at require some enterprise level experience 22:55:11 which I'll get at my new job 22:57:04 hmm yeah 23:49:57 Whats up y'all? 23:51:04 bkerensa what do you use for sound file converstion? 23:52:15 Hey every body I need something to convert wav to MP3 any suggestions? 23:53:44 http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=3360 23:53:48 hmm of course 23:54:34 TRAVISf: sudo apt-get install soundconverter 23:54:36 :) 23:54:57 then see your sound applications section or on Unity search for Sound :) 23:55:16 That's what my early research pointed to thanks for the confirmation 23:55:49 I haven't been running unity been running gnome classic 23:55:56 I like the menu layout 23:56:20 and use synaptic still I like it better than the software center 23:57:20 TRAVISg: Classic on which release of Ubuntu? 23:58:18 11.10 Oneric not sure if it is called classic but I think it is I had to install it 23:58:23 seperatly 23:58:49 oh you mean gnome-fallback-session? 23:59:27 Yeah I think 23:59:40 TRAVISg: Does it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/SUDeA.png 00:00:08 Yup 00:00:16 clean simple I love it 00:00:45 TRAVISg: Hmm you ever have the Applications, Places and panels just like mine? 00:00:46 :D 00:03:31 Here is mine looks the same to me http://i.imgur.com/w0ny5.png 00:03:51 ahh 00:03:54 nope I see 00:04:04 yeah you have basic gnome-fallback-session 00:04:23 what's the difference you spotted? 00:04:24 notice the difference in the panel color and where everything is positioned 00:04:48 Mine is the real classic :D I just modified the panel to use Ambiance GTK2 background 00:05:04 as for the panel indicators I used Jason Conti's Gnome Indicator Port 00:05:38 Ah what do you notice as a difference in function? 00:05:42 TRAVISg: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/how-to-make-ubuntu-11-10-look-and-feel-like-gnome-2/ 00:05:51 or just look? 00:05:57 I will check that out 00:06:06 Well my layout and look is the same as the old Gnome2 layout (I'm a pretty big Gnome fanboy) 00:06:07 :D 00:06:39 with the Gnome Indicator port you can add and remove ported indicators like weather etc 00:06:53 Hrm, desktop 00:06:59 This is the only one I could find. http://staff.osuosl.org/~bkero/netwalker.jpg 00:07:23 cool thanks as always for the excellent info. 00:07:29 I gotta run Peace 00:08:10 bkerensa: did you see this? http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ 00:08:43 albrigha: But of course... I actually tested it before it was announced ;) 00:08:47 lol 00:08:56 actually I'm not too surprised :) 00:32:39 albrigha: heh :) it happens 01:33:16 kees: Can you eat Pho? 01:34:40 bkerensa: where is your fav place? I like Coffee First in Beaverton off walker. good stuff. 01:35:35 albrigha: Got Pho on Sandy Blvd (Classiest Pho in Portland and its good) 01:35:49 albrigha: You think you might be able to make it up Friday night if I hold a Ubuntu Hour? 01:36:07 actually I can do Friday. what time are you thinking? 01:36:15 the problem is I don't have a veh until my wife gets home..around 6 01:36:43 Umm well I gotta discuss with my fiancee but I'm hoping 7:30ish or so maybe 01:36:49 Got Pho..i think I've been there..do they fry the chicken before it goes in? 01:36:50 My fiancee gets off at 6:30 01:36:51 :D 01:36:55 ha okay 01:36:58 so yeah it might work out 01:37:03 where are you thinking? 01:37:10 Got Pho would be nice 01:37:10 :D 01:37:14 I know the owner 01:37:15 ha totally 01:37:33 Their bowls are so big 01:37:47 ah I can just go up mcloughlin 01:37:57 hmm? 01:38:00 I haven't been there. I was thinking the one on sandy but on the other side of 205 01:38:11 sorry, I was trying to figure out if traffic would suck getting there 01:38:22 http://gotphoonline.com/ 01:38:40 I pretty much love Vietnamese Sandwiches too but I haven't tried theirs 01:38:52 me too! 01:39:06 I like best baquette. actually I think that's the only viet sandwish place I've been to 01:39:15 the one on powell? 01:39:16 :D 01:39:21 exactly! 01:39:24 man I'm starving.. 01:39:24 heh 01:39:28 I know right 01:39:49 Let me run things by my fiancee tonight when she gets off then I will ping the mailing list 01:39:55 cool sounds great 01:40:13 I'm gonna get offline for awhile. I've been looking at python all day. and my brain is all fried 01:40:20 Maybe if it all works out I can see if slangasek, kees and a few others wanna come out for a hot bowl of soup 01:40:22 lol 01:40:25 have fun :) 01:40:28 ttyl! 01:43:40 bkerensa: yes! meat in a bowl is fine by me! :) 01:45:47 * slangasek scratches his head 01:45:52 kees: Would you like to come and support a variant of Debian and discuss some FOSS on Friday? :) 01:46:22 The place is really good and I'm open to alternatives all I know if I'm eating Pho on Friday for dinner :P 01:47:03 bkerensa: I am, unfortunately, in mountain view this week :( 01:47:23 kees: Oh :) Well next time... Visiting the mothership? :D 01:47:37 yawp. :) 01:57:02 hello 01:58:00 hello c_smith 01:58:00 bkerensa, have you heard anything more about when the G+ hangout is? 01:58:20 also, how goes the move? 01:59:11 c_smith: Nope I will try to see tonight when dholbach is online. 01:59:20 The move goes slowly.... Still unpacking 01:59:25 blkperl: Ping 02:01:55 cool, I have to get up early, so I can't be up till even 11PM as it would bring my performance down at school. 02:03:18 I think I might possibly be able to do the meeting tomorrow, though, as I don't have to get up as early. 02:03:47 * c_smith goes to play some Multiwinia 02:55:47 bkerensa: poing 03:00:40 blkperl: What was the PSU opp for Ubuntu Oregon? 03:02:30 bkerensa: you make one up and tell me a date 03:02:39 preferably friday at 4pm 03:02:47 :D 03:03:56 and the next availible friday is in 4 weeks or something 03:04:13 lol 03:04:13 blkperl: What is this for? 03:04:13 blkperl: Is this a talk or conference or series? 03:04:32 is for PSU-ACM similar to OSU-LUG 03:04:40 a talk 03:06:40 blkperl: Hmms I can do a talk about the Ubuntu Community if you would like and contributing 03:06:47 I have a presentation ready for that 03:06:48 :) 03:06:58 is it 30mins to an hour? :) 03:07:02 and perhaps how PSU folks can contribute 03:07:08 Not 30 mins 03:07:17 how long is it? 03:07:23 15min talk with time for questions 03:07:34 that might work, you free this friday? 03:07:42 Not a chance :P 03:07:44 awesome 03:07:48 ill figure somethign out then 03:07:49 I just moved into a new place 03:07:50 :D 03:08:00 4 weeks would be awesome :) 03:08:12 k 03:16:06 * c_smith is enjoying Multiwinia but wishes it had Alt+Tab compatibility 21:21:55 albrigha: I have pinged the list with the Pho Hour info 21:36:04 bkerensa: cool! 00:34:00 slangasek: ping 00:35:29 ugh 00:35:44 I cannot win for losing with this router 00:38:47 nibalizer: ribbit 00:40:33 slangasek: mountall is returning status 2. what could that indicate? we're confused. one of the lvs is not being activated on boot 00:46:14 nibalizer: hmm, looking 00:46:41 nibalizer: returning status 2 just means mountall thinks something has failed that requires a maintenance shell to fix 00:47:18 okay. thanks. 00:47:31 should only occur if you've pressed 'M' during boot to ask for a maintenance shell 00:47:53 yea, we're trying to figure out what the underlying problem is and how to fix it 00:48:00 oh 00:48:16 well, the exit code is probably not related then 00:50:09 so is it a VG that's failing to be activated? 00:51:45 no, just a single logical volume 00:52:12 a custom one, not / or anything 00:54:36 slangasek: Do you know which package nm-applet is apart of? I found a pretty interesting bug 00:54:46 bkerensa: network-manager-gnome 00:54:52 okie dokie 00:55:01 nibalizer: a single logical volume that's part of a VG that *has* been activated? 00:56:03 give me a sec to look at it again 00:56:41 yes thats correct. there is one vg 00:57:15 and from that there are 5lvs, /, swap, /tmp, /var all come up, but /disk/tank doesn't 00:57:32 /disk/tank is listead as inactive in lvscan 01:06:57 arst 01:19:11 slangasek: This was the bug I ran into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/924609 01:19:12 Launchpad bug 924609 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Network Manager adds (null) values for Wireless Connections" [Undecided,New] 01:19:14 It just started occuring since my last update on 12.04 and now my Wifi is also acting very turbulent 01:22:34 nibalizer: hum, I don't know why a single lv would be inactive on boot, unless someone had done something to it prior to the reboot. Does 'vgchange -a y' have any effect? 01:22:49 (because that's all we ever do on boot) 01:23:15 bkerensa: definitely not my department ;) But the desktop guys are good about picking up those bugs 01:25:29 :) 01:25:51 slangasek: that't what we've been trying but it hasn't been working, very strange 01:26:29 nibalizer: ok good, then it's not my bug ;P how about 'lvchange -a y /dev/myvg/mylv'? 01:26:52 (and is there any clustering involved here?) 01:27:46 slangasek: nope 01:28:00 hmm! 01:28:06 can you pastebin the output from 'lvdisplay'? 01:29:53 sure i'm waiting on it reboot 01:38:40 slangasek: it didn't come back after lvchange 01:38:47 output of lvdisplay: http://pastie.org/3292805 01:38:58 Yelp is having a Back to the Future Ball on Thursday is anyone going? I'm RSVP'ed with +1 02:01:56 nibalizer: anything in dmesg? 02:02:05 nothing useful 02:02:07 nibalizer: you're definitely running into something I've never seen before 02:02:23 well thats comforting :) 02:02:43 our solution is 'its up for today' tomorrow we'll reload it natty and hope the problem just goes away 02:18:01 yo 02:23:27 hello 05:44:36 bkerensa, were you able to get a hold of dholbach? I feel like I'm hounding you by asking so much, so if you haven't heard from him last night, shoot me an email when you do, would you? 05:45:02 that way we can get this planned out. 06:53:54 c_smith: When he comes on around midnight I will ask 06:54:02 and I will e-mail you when I know more 20:38:13 Yo 20:38:51 Hello, izdubar 20:39:37 Ah, so it's MarkDude 20:40:14 * c_smith is enjoying his new Acer tablet 20:41:24 Sumthin like that 20:41:38 Hows it working c_smith 20:43:22 Really nicely, Android Honeycomb, two cameras, a MicroSD port, wifi, over all, reallt nice. 20:43:48 Brb 20:50:33 sounds cool 20:58:39 Back 21:13:20 Bkerensa: How it going. 21:33:14 Hey cweber10 I'm good just running errands 21:33:39 On my phone 21:35:35 Ahhh was in my cs399 lab and thought it would be a good time to say hi. 22:21:50 cweber10: When did you want to get some mentoring? :) 22:22:02 I think I'm supposed to check in with you weekly I have a form I have to sign and send somewhere :P 22:23:00 cweber10: I'm available via Hangout during the day almost M-F or we can do it over IRC but if we do Hangout I can have access to meeting tools 22:25:48 what ever works best for you, and I can pass any information on to the two other people as well 22:26:23 Becca Says hi! 22:27:17 She would like to know if there is anything that you know of that will happen before the 3rd week of March (end of our term) 22:28:15 cweber10: Friday we are having a Ubuntu Hour in Portland it is announced on our mailing list 22:29:04 cweber10: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/ also lists most if not all of the international events occuring online etc 22:29:25 Fridays are a bit hard for her at the moment. 22:30:23 bkerensa: yea we have that link for the class. Just thinking that local stuff could be a bit more engageing as we could see people face to face 22:33:16 Yeah well the Portland Ubuntu Hour this Friday and we will likely have another one next month too before you adjourn 22:33:36 Summer/Spring is generally a bit more FOSSy... Geeks seem to hibernate in the Winter 22:33:36 :) 22:34:00 Will have to keep an eye out for that so we can get out. 22:36:27 cweber10: Seems like some OSU LUG and PSU ACM folks might be coming to the Ubuntu Hour this friday 22:36:28 :D 22:36:33 might be a good op for engaging 22:41:44 yea will be intresting, my problem is getting a ride from salem. 22:46:15 cweber10: Yeah... I offered Becka to come and do a presentation at WOU for your class but told her it would be contingent on me being able to get a ride out there. 22:46:32 cweber10: One of the other mentees just e-mailed me. 22:49:08 cweber10: If you are interested some OSU students are coming up for the Ubuntu Hour and they might possibly be able to give you a ride up etc but they are also doing a birthday party so you would likely have to go to that with them or hangout in Portland after until they head back 22:49:08 :D 22:49:23 <relud> bkerensa: monmouth isn't terribly out of the way, i'd be willing to pick them up if need be, but they'd have to be up for the dual birthday party 22:50:13 bkerensa: yea if you can help set up communication, cweber10@wou.edu is my e-mail. and I am actuly in salem friday, only have one class in the morning 22:50:47 cweber10: Can you just /join #OSU-LUG 22:50:48 :) 22:50:54 the person is relud 22:51:05 BBL Lab is over and I have to ride the bus home. might get on my phone while traveling will depend on how my phone acts 22:55:44 kk 23:02:53 albrigha: Hope you can make it Friday looks like we might have a very good turnout... Got students coming from WOU/OSU/PSU 23:02:54 :D 23:03:06 bkerensa: cool! 23:03:10 I think it will work out 23:04:07 * bkerensa is off to The Home Depot 01:03:51 * cweber10 is home and semi back 02:29:51 :) 02:30:05 * bkerensa is back from the Home Depot $120 later 02:31:12 yay! 02:31:21 and what awesomeness did you purchase 02:31:52 I bought a Honeywell Oil Filled Electric Radiator Heater 02:31:57 nice 02:32:00 I use those 02:32:03 I have..like 4 02:32:04 3 02:32:11 they are great 02:32:18 Storm Window Insulation, CFL's, Light Switch Insulation and Paint Supplies 02:32:19 :D 02:32:25 nice 02:32:26 project? 02:46:25 bkerensa: Sounds good, so talked my wife into going to portland friday after school. 02:56:22 cweber10: You riding with the OSU guys? :P 02:56:32 albrigha: Just try to conserve energy costs 02:57:02 the new place her has a high average of $252 per month during winter according to Pacific Power and I would like to bring that down by $52 :) 02:57:55 bkerensa: No going to get up there on my own. then I don't need to worry about the ride back to salem. 02:59:42 :D 02:59:46 cool 03:00:09 cweber10: I think albrigha is coming too not sure if he is bringing his wife... I'm bringing my fiancee 03:00:54 bkerensa: sounds good 03:08:45 got a confirm from my wife, we are good to go 03:13:34 sounds like it is going to be quite a gathering 03:16:22 so is lucid going to get the fast release schedule for thunderbird? or is its just going to be firefox 03:30:12 blkperl: No idea I think thats up to Desktop Team 03:36:01 bkerensa: well it makes no sense to just do firefox :P 19:40:05 albrigha: http://i.imgur.com/LSaDJ.jpg 19:40:37 bkerensa: haha! awesome 19:41:33 Brian_H: We are having a Ubuntu Hour tomorrow at a Pho place if you would like to come and join us a few people are bringing their wives 19:42:00 albrigha: Do you use Tomahawk at all? 19:42:46 no I haven't 19:42:57 gettomahawk.com :) pretty good stuff 19:43:19 I'll try it. I'm keen on finding a better player.. 19:43:22 I use Tomahawk with the Spotify Module 19:43:32 but they have so many plugins 19:45:10 I like it when projects make their software avail via ppa 20:38:29 hmm what time? 21:12:21 hi dhrasmus 21:12:27 Brian_H: 7:30pm 21:13:54 hello bkerensa 21:17:19 dhrasmus: You use Ubuntu I assume ;) 21:18:52 Indeed! Big fan. 21:19:54 dhrasmus: Cool :) Just never noticed you in channel before? You live in Portland or somewhere else in Oregon? 21:20:33 In Portland, yup. 21:20:57 Cool 21:21:14 we are having a Ubuntu Hour tomorrow night at 7:30pm in NE Portland if you are interested 21:23:38 I've got plans tomorrow evening, are there any other meetups in the near future? 21:25:35 We will have another Ubuntu Hour next month 21:25:37 :) 21:25:50 Probably second week of March 21:27:13 How late do you think it might run tomorrow? *Might* be able to catch part of it 21:27:59 Perhaps a hour or two or more 21:28:00 :) 21:28:17 I believe they close at 9pm or 10pm so perhaps close to when the restaurant closes 21:37:46 Where's the meet? I'll see what I can do but probably shouldn't count on me. 21:41:12 Gotta run. I'll ask tomorrow if it's looking like I can swing by. 00:32:47 Hello 00:46:20 hihi 01:44:14 albrigha: Can you RSVP please just so we have proper reporting next time we go to apply for approval as a LoCo 01:44:15 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1520/detail/ 01:44:30 hey c_smith I'm going to make your event for friday and you should RSVP 01:44:37 actually c_smith can you pm me 01:45:02 cool done 01:45:20 thanks 01:45:22 :) 01:45:34 albrigha: Kind of like membership they wanna see numbers :P 01:46:57 sure makes sense3 02:01:54 Heya 02:05:39 Kinda dead here, eh? 02:09:32 c_smith: Can you create a event for your ubuntu hour 02:09:38 loco.ubuntu.com 02:09:52 c_smith: About the same as most LoCo Channels 02:11:21 Bkerensa, how do you mean? If you mean using the same system you use for other events, I could. 02:11:51 just go in and make an event 02:11:56 go to loco.ubuntu.com 02:11:57 login 02:12:00 click events 02:12:06 then click add event 02:12:18 Also, it takes me longer to type on this tablet, but not unbearably so. 02:12:20 just put time and date and select venue... the venue is already in the system 02:12:31 thats why I dont use Tablets 02:12:32 :) 02:12:36 they are time wasters 02:13:34 Lol, good reason. I mainly use this for fun. :-) 02:27:23 bkerensa, I added the event, want a link? 02:28:23 oh no thats fine we just need it for documentation purposes 02:29:11 Ah, ok, should I write up a event every week I do this? 02:30:33 And is there a definite day for the release party, or is that still up in the air? 02:32:53 c_smith: It would be helpful if you did 02:33:12 c_smith: Well its still months from now but I would like to aim for the April date. 02:34:10 Cool, I'll do my best to keep the events up to date. 02:39:03 * c_smith is back, quirk in androirc 18:01:31 bdmurray: Do you know if Allison is with Canonical anymore? 21:08:55 Bkerensa, any news on the hangout? Was Tuesday the day that was decided on? 21:10:25 c_smith: I e-mailed you 21:10:46 Ok. Need to check that then. 21:18:42 Ok, I won't be up quiteas late as I thought, but this could still go that long depending on how much is going to be discussed. 21:20:11 Thanks for recommending me to them, I hope I do an okay job. 21:20:35 Or better, a good job. 21:21:50 * c_smith goes backbto tweaking his PC 01:59:17 * c_smith is at Broadway Common Coffeehouse 02:00:39 c_smith: Is JVLB there? 02:01:06 Just got here as a matter of fact. 02:01:23 * bkerensa is getting read to head to the Portland Ubuntu Hour here in a bit 02:01:23 :D 02:01:36 Awesome. 03:02:39 * cweber10 is in portland a bit early 09:32:01 cweber10: I just got home 09:32:03 :D 09:35:42 hi goddard 16:21:06 bkerensa: yo 19:58:30 bkerensa: looks like you had fun staying out till 1:30 am 23:28:33 hello there 23:28:54 looking for suggestions about ubuntu 23:29:03 software tweak etc. all helps are welcome 04:58:30 cweber10: Too much fun perhaps 06:55:02 blkperl: We missed you on Friday 06:55:03 :D 06:55:25 bkerensa: yeah I was super tired :S 06:55:32 fridays are long... 06:55:39 blkperl: So was I the next day :P 06:56:36 blkperl: Pics -> https://plus.google.com/115750270177636397262/posts/PQGga6DKLfL 06:56:37 :D 06:56:43 bkerensa: you should finish my multiarch tickets, there showing up on my google searchs 06:57:12 blkperl: Finish in what way? I thought they were done already 06:57:23 Hmm Slangasek hasn't been on IRC for a few days now 06:58:38 bkerensa: nope i missed that multiarch tag on all of them :S 06:58:57 huh 06:59:10 paste the bug ID's here and I will have a look at all of them 06:59:23 I have to go to bed now but tomorrow I can have a look and make a new patch 21:35:23 man, I got a bunch of trolling from ONE of my comments to some dude who was doing a terrible job at trolling himself, why do I even go on Youtube anymore? the site is just like a tinderbox nowadays. 21:36:08 the place is full of trolls waiting for the slightest of provocations so they can have a field day with it..... >.< 21:39:19 * MarkDude ignores comments there 21:39:26 like no look at 21:39:30 bkerensa: #651008 21:39:33 Its ALL trolling 21:40:41 Many times it is a version of this >> http://derailingfordummies.com/ 21:41:38 bkerensa: #651008 #651009 #651010 21:44:00 MarkDude, that's a good tactic, but it's hard to ignore when they go directly to your inbox (via Private Message) 21:45:03 also, I went back to using Unity, decided to give it a try again. 21:49:06 Well that makes sense 21:49:16 I would not be stoked if people were doing that 21:49:24 or posting stuff on my videos 21:51:17 funny thing is I have no videos. 21:52:03 but yeah, I myself ignore most comments, I only pay attention to ones that are from people I'm subscribed to, such as Linux4unme. 22:01:19 blkperl: Excellent I will have a crack at them either tonight or tomorrow 22:01:21 :D 23:22:33 blkperl: Slangasek says that those were all taken care of 23:22:35 :D 23:38:21 bleh, looks like I won't be able to host the Ubuntu Hour this week, gonna go to the coast for the weekend. 23:38:36 and it aint my decision. 01:15:41 Hello all how it going today? 02:42:39 bkerensa: ok 03:35:09 precise alpha2 is not installing for me... 03:35:32 its complaining about not resolving the mirror server half through the installing base package phase 03:35:48 and i tried two different mirrors 03:53:28 bkerensa, are you here? 03:53:36 I have a quick question 04:09:13 lol precise is trollllling blkperl 04:10:29 lol 04:11:19 what channel? 04:12:19 also, my printer only prints in yellow and black...... :( 04:12:44 blue and red are not being used... 04:17:37 c_smith, relevant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw 04:19:18 rofl 04:39:40 took a while, but after printing big blocks of cyan and magenta and cleaning the cartridges using the printer, I managed to get it to print properly. 06:40:33 c_smith: sup? 06:42:21 hmm ok back to netflix 20:40:10 Good Morning Everyone 21:03:09 good morning, bkerensa 21:03:50 just got help mounting my tablet, really long command to do so manually. wonder if there is a way to make it automount 21:15:50 bkerensa, I will not be able to host the Salem Ubuntu Hour, but I might be able to get JVLB to if I can get a hold of him. 21:16:19 I won't be able to host it this week, that is. 22:08:38 bkerensa, have you seen Jono's Google+ post about Global Jams? 22:09:43 nvm, looks like you did, just didn't scroll far enough. :P 22:10:52 c_smith: yes i read everything on planet plus im helping with global jams this year in north america 22:11:31 iBkerensa, awesome. 22:12:41 well, that's all I had to say, time to continue downloading my Linux Journal issues. 23:59:22 c_smith: You subscribed? 00:15:44 bkerensa: hey how it going 00:20:33 ? 00:21:01 ack, missed delete and pressed enter on phone :p 00:25:16 cweber10: Good 00:25:34 cweber10: Do you think tomorrow evening might work better for our talk? 00:31:18 bkerensa: afternoo, yes evening will depend on what all happens. 00:37:47 cweber10: Cool lets aim for tomorrow afternoon 00:37:52 What time works best for you? 00:39:07 well we are in lab from1 to 3 00:45:23 later in the day is chaotic 00:55:56 cweber10: How about 2pm? 00:55:56 :D 00:58:00 yea 2 is good 00:58:20 ok see you guys here at 2pm 00:58:20 :D 02:13:16 :D 02:21:29 Ok well I'm off.... c_smith see you tonight on Google+ and here at 11pm for the Ubuntu Dev News video conference 02:21:32 ! 02:46:34 hello 06:15:23 :D 06:15:25 c_smith: ello 06:28:37 yo 06:29:16 :) 06:29:25 should be good to go in about 30 minutes 06:29:54 cool 06:41:56 why is my mic playing games 06:41:57 :( 06:43:10 that's not fun, spent a bit earlier tweaking the volume control for mine. 06:43:55 brb rebooting 06:44:16 ok 06:53:08 Im back 06:53:08 :D 06:53:39 cool 06:54:27 man, I had a question, but I forgot what it was. I know it's one I wanted to ask you..... 06:54:57 darn my tiredness. 06:56:39 around 5 mins to go. 06:58:24 c_smith can you join #ubuntu-news 06:58:34 you got it. 08:06:44 well unity decided to segfault after i rebooted my precise alpha2 installation 08:07:52 why is it that apt-get upgrade can never fix things.. 08:08:00 (aptitude safe-upgrade)++ 08:08:13 lol 08:08:18 I never use aptitude 08:08:19 :D 08:08:37 blkperl: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade 08:08:37 aptitude always figures out my dependency problems :P 08:08:51 why would i need to dist-upgrade? 08:09:27 sometimes packages get held and dist-upgrade clears it up for me... I never had to use it in the past but lately its been the key to winning on precise 08:09:35 bkerensa: be careful with that on the dev release, if there's archive skew when you do that, you can end up purging a package that you might consider important. 08:09:56 sbeattie: Ahh k 08:10:04 make sure to read carefully the list of packages apt wants to remove. 08:10:14 sbeattie: Well sometimes I have held packages and dist-upgrade seems to force them 08:10:14 :D 08:10:46 kalosaurusrex: I need to interview your team soon 08:10:46 also apt-get update seems to be failing on one of the mirrors 08:11:06 blkperl: which mirror? Quite a few of the mirrors are not up to date for some reason 08:11:43 i don't its in my back scroll :) 08:11:46 know* 08:11:54 ill let you know after updates 08:15:36 sbeattie: Is there a way to take screenshots of the login screen? 08:16:18 bkerensa: hrm, I don't know 08:17:54 blkperl: slangasek tells me that aptitude gets dependency resolution wrong in some subtle ways. I tend to trust him on it. 08:18:34 OTOH, my sbuild setup has to use aptitude for dependency resolution because the dependency resolution that sbuild does natively is... buggy. 08:18:49 hehe 08:21:14 alright rebooting, if i don't come back send a wake on lan packet instructing my machine to reinstall oneiric :D 08:21:31 pxeboot over irc for the win! 08:22:23 bkerensa: where's your new place? I keep seeing you hit eastside locations that I wouldn't expect a westsider to go to (e.g. Mall 205)... 08:24:03 compiz keeps crashing :S 08:24:26 "problem cannont be reported, obsolete packages" 08:24:51 * blkperl hits computer with apt-get upgrades 15:52:35 bkerensa: good morning! 15:53:04 albrigha: Ello... I need to interview your team but right now I'm handling Kubuntu Team :LD 15:53:29 bkerensa: lol okay no worries. we'll talk about it..it might actually be better if you talk to Gema about that 15:53:57 albrigha: Or pgraner? 15:53:57 :D 15:54:19 hm well he's pretty busy. Gema is sort of the lead. so she might be able to help as well 15:54:25 I mean you can def ask him too. 15:54:31 k 15:54:47 is Gema a QA lead or does she help lead Kernel Team? 15:54:48 :D 15:54:54 QA 15:55:11 ahh I think were focusing on Kernel Team so idk Ill ask dholbach 15:55:27 okay that's cool :) 15:55:50 I am not awake yet 15:56:01 LOL 15:56:07 I worked with dholbach till 2am 15:56:11 then woke up at 7am 15:56:11 :D 15:56:20 and am now working with him more until he goes to bed 15:56:28 he is in Germany so yeah my sleep patterns are bad 15:56:41 haha 15:57:19 I know exactly how you feel oddly enough. but it's good fun! I realized that rather than having a sleeping problem, my body seems to be set more for europe time! 15:57:55 Gema is in the UK, and one of the other guys is in Germany as well 15:58:04 I love working with such a diverse group. 21:09:29 hello cweber10 21:10:59 bkerensa: Hello how it going 21:11:32 good 21:11:33 so what is going to work best for this? 21:11:33 :D 21:11:54 cweber10: Well we can do it over IRC and just go to #ubuntu-wou 21:11:55 :) 21:12:15 sounds good. 21:18:31 cweber10: Do you know if the others will be coming? 21:18:54 I think they are trying 21:19:42 :D 22:02:00 yo 22:04:37 bkerensa, is there any chance you could show me the ropes to the Ubuntu Dev news? 22:06:09 Hello c_smith yep I can do that give me just a few minutes I'm finishing up a meeting 22:06:39 eh, just got told I might have to leave in a few...... hate it when that happens. 22:06:51 could we postpone this to when I get back? 22:07:14 Umm c_smith well I think we got enough done for this issue but 22:07:17 lets aim for tomorrow? 22:07:21 sure. 22:07:27 bkerensa: Thank you. 22:07:28 me and dholbach did an unusual amount of work this morning 22:07:29 :D 22:07:30 no pton 22:07:34 *prob 22:07:36 ok 22:07:40 so tomorrow afternoon 22:07:41 :D 22:07:46 cweber10: No problem 22:07:47 :D 22:07:49 bkerensa, on an unrelated subject, I have a question 22:08:02 it's about the BNC server. 22:08:15 cweber10: You can tell Becka if somehow a ride could be arrange to and from WOU I would have no problem doing a presentation for the whole class 22:08:15 :) 22:08:26 c_smith: Sure whats up? 22:09:44 ok, I'm getting a Desktop this weekend, and intend to use it to see what I can do on SSH and have it as my main IRC PC, if I had said desktop connected the the BNC server, and needed to occasionally connect with my laptop, would that cause problems when the Desktop is already connected? 22:10:07 c_smith: Nope 22:10:08 :) 22:10:25 cool, thought I'd read that somewhere, but couldn't find it again. 22:10:57 anywho, I'd better go, I'll likely hit you up on that tomorrow after I eat lunch (I'll be in school until then) 22:11:42 ok then 22:11:43 :D 22:11:50 * bkerensa is off to Home Depot and Walmart 22:11:50 :D 22:12:07 cya 06:41:18 hello gepr 06:41:22 :D 20:47:42 bkerensa, are you available to show me what is to be done with the Ubuntu Dev News? 21:13:48 Surely 21:13:54 c_smith: PM me 21:14:56 bkerensa, on IRC, right? 23:59:59 * kees waves "hi" to wolfmanjake 05:33:10 man i am having issues tonight.. annoying. 21:21:28 Possibly stupid question: I just signed up for Bug Squad, but I'm the bug list is giving me a head ache. Is there are a place for newbies to cut their teeth? A particular task that is newbie friendly? 21:49:17 hello all 21:50:03 hello 21:51:06 bkerensa, I might be able to attend tomorrow night's meeting, I say might because the net here is a bit iffy (I'm at Gold Beach) 21:51:34 so even if I make it, I might cut in and out. 21:52:10 c_smith_: Okie dokie 21:52:27 c_smith_: How is the small coastal town of gold beach? Are you on vacation? 21:52:28 :D 21:52:46 They have a good pancake restaurant in gold beach btw 21:52:46 :D 21:52:58 bkerensa, o.n a vacation until monday 21:53:13 how the heck did the first period get there? 21:53:50 anywho, I got a nice custom PC given to me by one of Jim's friends (I'm not talking about JVLB) 21:54:25 c_smith_: You should go to Brookings 21:54:26 :D 21:54:30 or Crescent City 21:54:31 :P 21:54:44 been through Brookings to the Redwood park in CA. 21:54:54 just today in fact. 21:57:19 c_smith_: Which redwood park? Redwood National Park in Crescent City? There are like 15 parks there 21:57:19 :P 21:57:24 Jed Smith Park? 21:57:25 D: 21:57:57 bkerensa, Jedediah Smith Redwood Park, yep 21:58:11 c_smith_: Cool :) I used to swim there every summer 21:58:24 I went to High School in Crescent City :) 21:58:26 I have a few Pics near there on my tablet. 21:58:41 :) I was down there for Christmas 21:58:49 Probably will go again in the Spring sometime 21:58:54 awesome, I went to school in several different states throughout my school life. 21:59:30 awesome. 21:59:46 wonder if I should take a pic of the PC tower I was given. 22:03:19 would you be interested in seeing the tower I was given if I uploaded a pic? 00:40:47 bkerensa, would you care to see the PC tower I got? I have a pic ready, just need to grab it from my private Google+ album and link to it. 17:52:32 yo 18:42:01 anyone here care to see the new PC tower I got? 20:30:38 yo 20:51:53 just thought I'd drop a link to the pics I've taken of the new PC tower I got: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.382812058400953.107585.100000164854287&type=3 20:56:12 new link since the previous one doesn't seem to work for some: https://picasaweb.google.com/101635943739208364223/NewPCTower?locked=true 00:12:56 yellow 00:13:55 * c_smith has to eat, brb 00:46:10 * c_smith is back 00:56:21 2 hours until IRC meeting 02:17:03 bkerensa, is the IRC meeting still on tonight? 02:34:02 c_smith: Yes 02:35:13 bkerensa, ok, I was just making sure. 02:35:29 have about a half hour 02:36:02 bkerensa, if I suddenly go unresponsive, it means I lost connections, and should be back shortly (withing 3-4 minutes usually) 02:36:51 like just now. 02:42:15 c_smith: Will likely be a short meeting I'm putting together an agenda now 02:49:27 be back at 7pm promptly 02:49:28 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/CurrentAgenda 02:49:50 ok 02:50:10 I'll do..... something if you're late, don't know what yet :P 02:51:20 oh, hey, bkerensa O 02:51:34 I'll add the topics that weren't covered last month. 02:55:21 c_smith: I removed them 02:55:29 ok, 02:55:37 I dont expect a big turnout so we wont have much of a quorom 02:55:43 ah, ok 02:56:34 unless jvlb or nathwill or others show up 02:56:35 :) 02:56:49 anyone else present for tonights meeting? 02:56:49 :D 02:57:38 MarkDude, are you here for the meeting? 02:57:51 Sure 02:57:56 Whats up? 02:58:04 monthly IRC meeting. 02:58:24 You want me to go give the Council hell for sumthin'? Name it 02:58:34 * MarkDude is kidding ;) 02:58:49 oh, lol 02:59:38 Quorums can be met by combo of irc AND mailing lists 03:00:04 Lay it out in meeting, let people -1 or +1 on ML 03:00:09 btw, because the Wifi here is, excuse my language, crappy, I may get disconnected, if I do, I will be working my hardest to get right back on within 5 minutes. 03:00:42 that may happen multiple times. 03:01:43 well, shall we wait a few minutes to see if anyone comes/ 03:01:45 *? 03:01:54 we will start 03:02:11 Ok everyone we will now start the February Ubuntu Oregon Meetin 03:02:17 albrigha, are you here for the meeting? 03:02:17 Meeting* 03:02:24 Present 03:02:34 Oh yes 03:02:38 cool 03:02:46 bkerensa: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. 03:02:54 rofl 03:02:55 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot)