00:59 <cprofitt> #startmeeting Reboot New York 00:59 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 9 00:59:41 2014 UTC. The chair is cprofitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 00:59 <meetingology> 00:59 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 00:59 <cprofitt> welcome everyone. 00:59 <cprofitt> Can everyone here for the meeting say "here" 01:00 <slick666> here 01:01 <cprofitt> RDUB-I jacky cyberanger Setup_Artist here? 01:01 <Setup_Artist> Yes I'm here 01:01 * cprofitt nods 01:01 <cprofitt> alrigh lets begin then 01:02 <cprofitt> #topic local growth 01:02 <cprofitt> I would like to help people start groups in their local areas... 01:03 <cprofitt> what area are you from Setup_Artist ? 01:03 <Setup_Artist> Lisbon NY 01:03 <Setup_Artist> About 1 hour north of Watertown 01:03 <cprofitt> yeah... North Country 01:03 <cprofitt> lots of snow now, heh? 01:04 <slick666> yea, you're not far from the border 01:04 <Setup_Artist> Most of it south of us... we just have the really cold stuf 01:04 <RDUB-I> here 01:04 <Setup_Artist> Border about 5 miles away 01:04 <RDUB-I> (sorry I'm late) 01:04 <slick666> welcome 01:04 <cprofitt> no problem RDUB-I 01:05 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: where are you from? 01:06 <RDUB-I> Binghamton, NY' 01:06 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist and RDUB-I what do you think would help get local groups started in your area? 01:07 <cprofitt> I found the toughest thing for me was to find the place to meet... and then setting the date. 01:10 <Setup_Artist> I think that in general we need to get Schools or local Libraries involved in some way. Often time I had thought that it would be nice to set up a couple PC's In an accessible area to give people a hands on look at Ubuntu without them being worried that it might "break" their computer. 01:10 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist: have you approached any local libraries or schools? 01:11 <Setup_Artist> I have talked to people that work in a couple libraries... but I can't seem to get them to bite... :/ 01:11 <cprofitt> I wonder if Clarkson or SUNY Potsdam have any active computer groups 01:12 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist do you think that is something I could assist with? Getting them to bite? 01:13 <Setup_Artist> Clarkson does have mirrors that host images... I would imagine they have some labs that utilize Linux in some form. 01:13 <cprofitt> or is it more a matter of getting promotional material for them to read? Success stories? 01:13 <slick666> if Clarkson is hosting FOSS already thats a good sign 01:13 * cprofitt nods 01:13 <Setup_Artist> I think Promotional material would be a big help... I try to print stuff out on my own... but I don't feel I get enough out there. 01:14 <slick666> you may just have to seek out someone on the inside that can "champion" the meetings 01:14 <cprofitt> http://cosi.clarkson.edu/ 01:14 <slick666> nice 01:14 <Setup_Artist> I figured they had something... bet St.Law does as well 01:15 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist: working in a school district myself I know that it is a challenge when ideas are presented by someone other than a tie wearing sales professional who treats people to lunch 01:15 <cprofitt> looks like there was a meeting tonight 01:15 <cprofitt> at Clarkson 01:15 <Setup_Artist> I hear you there... not everyone has learned that knowledge is found in the general public as well. 01:16 <cprofitt> every Wednesday. 01:16 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist: would you want to try to get over to one of their Wednesday meetins? 01:16 <Setup_Artist> That actually sounds like a possibility... 01:16 <cprofitt> hello simpleirc1 01:16 <slick666> welcome 01:17 <cprofitt> http://docs.cslabs.clarkson.edu/wiki/Presentations/Fall_2013 01:17 <cprofitt> looks like there are fairly active 01:17 <cprofitt> even some email contacts on that page 01:17 <Setup_Artist> Got it bookmarked 01:17 <cprofitt> though one person did present 01:18 <cprofitt> Why we should hate Canonical 01:18 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist: cool 01:18 <Setup_Artist> You can't please everyone all the time... decisions need to be made... right or wrong. 01:18 <cprofitt> #action Setup_Artist will visit the COSI lab and Clarkson 01:18 * meetingology Setup_Artist will visit the COSI lab and Clarkson 01:18 * cprofitt nods 01:19 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: what about in your area - any groups? 01:19 <Setup_Artist> Just have to fit it into my shop schedule 01:20 <Setup_Artist> Working on three pc builds at the moment. 01:20 <cprofitt> Setup_Artist: I appreciate you doing that... no rush so I am sure you will get time to do it eventually 01:21 <cprofitt> slick666: what was the most difficult part about getting Syracuse started? 01:21 <RDUB-I> No *buntu specific group(s) that I am aware of. 01:21 <cprofitt> hey ducky12432 good to see you 01:21 <Setup_Artist> I'm interested. I push Ubuntu toward all my clients as much as I dare... One client that is in his 70's actually Loves Ubuntu now... won't have anything to do with Windows any more. 01:21 <ducky12432> hey 01:22 <slick666> I didn't find a whole lot of difficulty on any particular part 01:22 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: is the STNYLUG still active? 01:22 <cprofitt> http://www.stnylug.org/ 01:22 <slick666> I would say what made bigegst difference was consistency 01:22 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: http://www.stnylug.org/announce.html 01:22 <slick666> every couple weeks, or every month doing something really helped get the momentum moving 01:23 <cprofitt> slick666: I would agree... doing something every month is the key 01:23 <cprofitt> I have found it takes at least one person willing to push the plan forward though 01:23 <RDUB-I> Officially - yes, but actually - not very active. Attendence is often 0-1 01:23 <cprofitt> you can have several people all talking about doing things, but you have to plan them to make them happen 01:24 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: in my area Linux is seen as 'difficult' by most computer users, but Ubuntu is not 01:24 <ducky12432> There were a few of us in syr that pushed though 01:24 <cprofitt> I find that funny, but perhaps planning an Ubuntu group would find more success 01:24 <cprofitt> ducky12432: more than one is always better... but it takes one to get the ball rolling 01:25 <ducky12432> Right but it takes that extra person to make it happen 01:25 <ducky12432> and have it keep happening 01:26 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: what would help you get Binghampton started? 01:26 <cprofitt> ducky12432: what would help you to keep Syracuse going? 01:29 <cprofitt> should we move on to the next topic? 01:31 <ducky12432> my biggest issue is I work in Ithaca 01:31 <ducky12432> That's the biggest problem 01:31 <cprofitt> are you living down there too? 01:31 <slick666> back in the day we both lived halfway between 01:32 <cprofitt> I would not expect you to do local stuff in Syracuse if you are working and living somewhere else 01:32 <cprofitt> start something in Ithaca or where you live 01:32 <cprofitt> it is not easy to do things far away. 01:32 <RDUB-I> More people to help plan activities/talks - my work sched leaves me little time to do much except attend meeting (and even then I have to skip some) 01:33 * RDUB-I points out minor nit -- no such place as Bingham*ton -- it is Binghamton 01:33 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: sorry RDUB-I 01:34 <cprofitt> ducky12432 and RDUB-I I wonder if you could work on a group down there together 01:34 <cprofitt> not sure how close Binghamton and Ithaca are... but I always thought of them as somewhat near each other 01:35 <cprofitt> probably not the most direct route though... and Cortland is near both too right? 01:35 <RDUB-I> We have the generosity Binghamton University to thank for both the meeting locations but I wonder if that makes some possible attendees *think* it is for college kids only - which it is not. 01:35 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: you can add the meetings to the loco.ubuntu.com page for New York 01:35 <cprofitt> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:35 <RDUB-I> Bing to Ithaca ~ 1 hour via secondary roads -- 01:36 <cprofitt> I can assist with adding the meetings... perhaps that would help it get more exposure 01:36 <cprofitt> and always feel free to promote the meetings on the mailing list 01:36 <RDUB-I> Not pleasant on a 'dark and stormy'/'dark and snowy' night "Hey! watch out for those deer!!" 01:36 <slick666> lol 01:37 <ducky12432> my company does have offices in Endicott and syr... 01:37 <slick666> I've taken out a couple in my day 01:37 <cprofitt> yeah... I have driven from Ithaca and Rochester for some meetings... same deer I think 01:37 <cprofitt> though I do like seeing the glow in the dark ones 01:39 <cprofitt> ducky12432: Endicott is very close to Binghamton 01:39 <RDUB-I> Can't hurt to add the STNYLUG meetings to the ubunti loco page - we discuss a wide variety of distros at our meetings (well - when there is more than me - tho I have been known to argue with myself -- and lose!) 01:39 <ducky12432> yea I know 01:40 <RDUB-I> *meetings to the ubuntu loco page 01:40 <cprofitt> #action RDUB-I will add STNYLUG meetings to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:40 * meetingology RDUB-I will add STNYLUG meetings to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:40 <cprofitt> I think those are some great first steps 01:40 <cprofitt> lets move on to something that may be a bit easier... 01:41 <slick666> kk 01:41 <cprofitt> #topic on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:41 <cprofitt> #TOPIC on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:41 <cprofitt> not sure why that is not working, but 01:42 <cprofitt> #subtopic on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:42 <cprofitt> nor that one. 01:42 <cprofitt> are any of you interested in participating in the online Ubuntu events? 01:42 <cprofitt> User Week, Open Week, Bug James, etc? 01:44 <slick666> I don't mind supporting remotely :) 01:44 * cprofitt smiles 01:44 <cprofitt> I appreciate that slick666 01:45 <cprofitt> we will keep you in the loop 01:46 <cprofitt> there are many on-line events that you can participate in... the great thing about them is it does not require you to travel on a cold dark deer infested road 01:46 <cprofitt> :-) 01:46 <cprofitt> if anyone wants to know more about those events let me know 01:46 <cprofitt> I will try to announce them on our mailing list as well. 01:46 <Setup_Artist> Sounds as dangerous as my driveway... 01:47 <RDUB-I> I never have participated in thise things or anything like them, guess it is time to try out/learn about something new. 01:47 <Setup_Artist> Not too sure what they are all about here either. 01:48 <cprofitt> here is information about the global jam 01:48 <cprofitt> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2656/ 01:48 * RDUB-I makes note to self to read up on these new-to-me things. 01:48 <cprofitt> user days is comging up this month 01:48 <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays 01:49 <cprofitt> user days are very focused on the end users -- teaching you how to do things with Ubuntu 01:49 <cprofitt> they take place on IRC in what they call #classroom 01:50 <cprofitt> open week is a bit different 01:50 <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek 01:50 <cprofitt> not sure if those are going to happen any more... but I suspect something similar will 01:51 <cprofitt> I am always willing to help with things like this too... 01:51 <cprofitt> if you have questions let me know 01:51 <cprofitt> if you want to contribute by leading a session let me know and I can connect you with the people who schedule the events 01:51 <cprofitt> there are other great on-line ways to contribute 01:52 <cprofitt> one of the easiest is to help with the Ubuntu Community Help Wiki 01:52 <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki 01:52 <cprofitt> lots and lots of wiki pages that just need to be reviewed to see if they are up to date or not 01:53 <cprofitt> and I mean simple things like catching the fact that the instructions say they work on Ubuntu 8.10 or some such 01:53 <cprofitt> I am part of the documentation team and a member of the wiki editors so I can assist you get started there too 01:54 <cprofitt> the wiki is another great resource to share with those you are trying to make comfortable with Ubuntu 01:54 <cprofitt> it shows them how easy it is to get help. 01:54 <Setup_Artist> I'll have to look at that possibility... it sounds like something I could do in spare time when I have any 01:54 <cprofitt> +1 Setup_Artist 01:54 <cprofitt> I do it in my free time... it never takes away from my family, etc 01:55 <cprofitt> another great resource for help and one you can contribute to is ask ubutnu 01:55 <Setup_Artist> My shop does that enough at times... 01:55 <cprofitt> http://askubuntu.com/ 01:56 <cprofitt> I want to leave some open time and not go over time... so we can parking lot this topic for next meeting 01:56 <cprofitt> #topic open for questions 01:56 <cprofitt> does anyone have any questions? 01:57 <Setup_Artist> When you hand out literature on Ubuntu is it something you print out... or do you have a source to get it from? 01:57 <cprofitt> great question 01:57 <cprofitt> I have done both 01:57 <cprofitt> I have created my own at times 01:58 <cprofitt> and used some I found 01:58 <cprofitt> http://spreadubuntu.org/ 01:58 <cprofitt> is a great place to find handouts 01:58 <cprofitt> you can either use them 100% of modify them to fit your own needs 01:58 <slick666> I think what we have today is much better than I remember 01:59 <Setup_Artist> I've used the ones from spreadubuntu website... but always looking for more 01:59 <cprofitt> I have some older stuff I could share out to folks -- they may already be on the team wiki 01:59 <cprofitt> I will have to check 01:59 <cprofitt> slideshare.net is another place to look 02:00 <Setup_Artist> K 02:00 <RDUB-I> I have not used much print material - maybe need to print up a few posters/flyers/brochures and spread them around to help get the word out about our (STNYLUG) group/meetings 02:00 <cprofitt> http://www.slideshare.net/indigo196?utm_campaign=profiletracking&utm_medium=sssite&utm_source=ssslideview 02:01 <cprofitt> feel free to take any of those or ask for originals 02:01 <cprofitt> RDUB-I: print materials do help as people can take them to remember the date(s) 02:01 <Setup_Artist> Thanks 02:01 <cprofitt> I also have gotten tables at local computer events and advertised my Lug and the LoCo 02:02 <cprofitt> any other questions? 02:02 <slick666> One other thing I think I should bring up 02:02 <slick666> for the members present that are looking at starting things in there local area 02:03 <slick666> I would recommend putting "finding a partner in crime" on your short list also 02:03 <slick666> I don't know if I can give advice on how to seek out like minded people 02:03 <cprofitt> I agree 02:03 <slick666> but if you have even one other person local that is helping out it really makes a big difference 02:04 <slick666> so I wouldn't plan on putting everything together yourself. Plan on seeking out help at some point 02:05 <slick666> I'm sure I wouldn't have done as much stuff if ducky wasn't there to work with me on stuff 02:05 <cprofitt> fantastic points slick666 02:05 <cprofitt> not going to be easy, but finding at least one person to assist truly makes it happen 02:06 <cprofitt> #topic next meeting 02:06 <cprofitt> I would like to schedule our next meeting for Feburary 5th at the same time 02:06 <cprofitt> any objections to that? 02:06 <slick666> works for me 02:06 <Setup_Artist> I'll mark the cal 02:06 <cprofitt> great 02:07 <cprofitt> thanks everyone for attending 02:07 <cprofitt> I feel enthused about us getting New York Rebooted! 02:07 <cprofitt> #endmeeting