01:04 <mhall119> #startmeeting 01:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 3 01:04:09 2013 UTC. The chair is mhall119. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 01:04 <meetingology> 01:04 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 01:04 <itnet7> Hey there mhall119 01:04 <Max-Tither> :) 01:04 <mhall119> yay, we have a meeting bot still 01:04 <chloric> and it's govatent! 01:04 <itnet7> ;-) 01:04 <chloric> hey mhall 01:04 <mhall119> let me pull up the agenda 01:04 <govatent> Hey guys! 01:04 <govatent> I'm joining from my mobile on a bad Internet connection. I really did not want to miss the meeting 01:05 <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/700/detail/ for those who don't have it 01:05 <mhall119> govatent: no worries, we'll just assume you say "yes" to everything :) 01:05 <mhall119> #topic Admin restaffing 01:05 <mhall119> no? I thought that worked 01:06 <mhall119> maybe it just doesn't say anything 01:06 <itnet7> I can't remember 01:06 <Michelle_> hey y'all 01:06 <itnet7> Hey there Michelle_ !! 01:06 <mhall119> anyway, we currently have myself, itnet7 and dan trevino as Launchpad team admins 01:07 <mhall119> this is mainly a janitorial position, it gives you the abilityt to update info on Launchpad and loco.ubuntu.com, but it's god to have active folks doing it 01:07 <mhall119> give the amount of stuff govatent has been doing, I wanted to recommend making him an admin 01:07 <itnet7> +1 01:08 <ahoneybun> hey peopl 01:08 <itnet7> Hey there ahoneybun 01:08 <mhall119> does anybody have anything they want to talk about on that before I open the vote? 01:08 <ahoneybun> hey itnet7 mhall119 01:08 <mhall119> hey ahoneybun, welcome to the team 01:08 <ahoneybun> mhall119: thanks did not know I was a team now lol 01:08 <mhall119> govatent: are you happy and willing to be a team admin? 01:09 <govatent> Cookies. Just for old time sakes 01:09 <chloric> I can help govatent anyway he needs 01:09 <mhall119> <govatent> Yes mhall119, I would love to 01:09 <mhall119> :) 01:09 <Michelle_> LOL 01:09 <govatent> Yes. 01:09 <mhall119> alrighty 01:09 <mhall119> #vote make govatent a launchpad team admin 01:09 <meetingology> Please vote on: make govatent a launchpad team admin 01:09 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 01:09 <Michelle_> +1 01:09 <meetingology> +1 received from Michelle_ 01:10 <itnet7> +1 01:10 <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7 01:10 <chloric> +1 01:10 <meetingology> +1 received from chloric 01:10 <mhall119> +1 01:10 <meetingology> +1 received from mhall119 01:10 <Michelle_> if my vote counts for anything these days 01:10 <govatent> There is a huge delay on my end FYI cause my service. 01:10 <Max-Tither> +1 01:10 <meetingology> +1 received from Max-Tither 01:10 <chloric> Aye AYe 01:10 <itnet7> Michelle_: it always does 01:10 <mhall119> #endvote 01:10 <meetingology> Voting ended on: make govatent a launchpad team admin 01:10 <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 01:10 <meetingology> Motion carried 01:10 <ahoneybun> mhall119: I guess about hangouts? 01:10 <mhall119> well that was pretty unanimous 01:11 <mhall119> ahoneybun: that'll be coming up in a later topic 01:11 <ahoneybun> mhall119: ok 01:11 <mhall119> #action mhall119 to add govatent as team admin in Launchpad 01:11 * meetingology mhall119 to add govatent as team admin in Launchpad 01:11 <mhall119> yay, more work items :) 01:11 <chloric> perfect 01:11 <itnet7> lol 01:11 <mhall119> alright, the next topic is from itnet7 01:11 <mhall119> #topic New team lead/contact elections 01:12 <chloric> govagova, just keep me posted on those cookies. 01:12 <mhall119> itnet7: did you want to introduce this topic? 01:12 <itnet7> Sure 01:13 <itnet7> Basically, I have kind of been out of the loop lately with my job and other things that have been going on. I don't really want to stand in the way of any progress. So I thought I would propose the idea if we should elect a replacement that could help set the direction for the team 01:14 <mhall119> itnet7: can you give folks an idea of what a lead needs to do? 01:15 <itnet7> The team lead will act as a laison (sp?) between the team and the councils and canonical. They would be subscribed to the Loco-contacts list and would share information that is important to share with the team 01:16 <govatent> My time is a bit tough with work, but I'd like to nominate myself to help or try it. 01:16 <mhall119> so the councils, like the community council (which I'm now on) and the loco teams council (which itnet7 is/was on) like to have a point of contact within loco teams in case they need to get information about the team, or push some info out to them 01:16 <chloric> can it be more than one person? 01:16 <itnet7> I was thinking that it might be good to potentially form a council 01:17 <mhall119> it can be whatever we want, really, but having one or a small number is better 01:17 <chloric> that works 01:17 <govatent> I like a small number. 01:17 <mhall119> I'm happy with a council, how about 3 people? 01:17 <chloric> a small council might be a great idea 01:17 * ahoneybun would like to try/help 01:17 <Michelle_> a triumverite would be probably best in terms of a small number 01:17 <govatent> I feel given our team members time, a Council would be better. 01:18 <itnet7> I think it makes the most sense 01:18 <mhall119> ok, so should we set a timeframe for nominations, and then put those up for a vote? 01:18 <chloric> vote to have a 3 member council? 01:18 <mhall119> chloric: we probably should, yeah 01:18 <govatent> I like that idea 01:18 <munz> crap sorry im late :) 01:19 <itnet7> No problem munz 01:19 <mhall119> #vote should we nominate and vote on a 3-member team council? 01:19 <meetingology> Please vote on: should we nominate and vote on a 3-member team council? 01:19 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 01:19 <Michelle_> hey munz 01:19 <munz> hi :) 01:19 <mhall119> munz: no worries 01:19 <chloric> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from chloric 01:19 <mhall119> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from mhall119 01:19 <itnet7> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7 01:19 <Michelle_> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from Michelle_ 01:19 <Max-Tither> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from Max-Tither 01:19 <govatent> +1 01:19 <meetingology> +1 received from govatent 01:19 <ahoneybun> +1 ? 01:19 <meetingology> +1 ? received from ahoneybun 01:19 <ahoneybun> not sure if I can vote 01:20 <mhall119> #endvote 01:20 <meetingology> Voting ended on: should we nominate and vote on a 3-member team council? 01:20 <meetingology> Votes for:7 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 01:20 <meetingology> Motion carried 01:20 <mhall119> alright, so how do we want to collect nominations? mailing list? 01:20 <chloric> perfect, vote to fill govatent into all council positions? 01:20 <mhall119> he might win all 3 seats 01:20 <itnet7> :-) 01:20 <chloric> sweet 01:21 <govatent> Some kind of cloud document to store votes? 01:21 <govatent> Nominations 01:21 <mhall119> we can do etherpad or google doc 01:21 <ahoneybun> govatent: google docs? 01:21 <ahoneybun> yea 01:21 <mhall119> ok, I'll set it up and email the team 01:21 <itnet7> Thanks mhall119 01:22 <mhall119> #action setup a google doc for collecting team council nominations 01:22 * meetingology setup a google doc for collecting team council nominations 01:22 <govatent> I've never used ether pad but I've heard of it and would like to use it 01:22 <mhall119> #action setup google form to collect voting on nominees 01:22 * meetingology setup google form to collect voting on nominees 01:22 <Michelle_> it's kinda cool, govatent 01:22 <mhall119> alright, itnet7 was there anything else on this topic you wanted to bring up? 01:22 <mhall119> govatent: you haven't participated in a UDS yet? 01:23 <govatent> I've done both uds online and in person 01:23 <mhall119> then you've seen etherpad 01:23 <itnet7> Not really mhall119 thanks! 01:23 <mhall119> it's what we use for note taking during UDS sessions 01:24 <mhall119> alright, next topic 01:24 <mhall119> #topic Online presence focus 01:24 <govatent> Ah OK 01:24 <mhall119> so we have a *lot* of ubuntu-florida stuff all over the internet 01:24 <mhall119> more than we can keep up to date and active 01:24 <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/700/detail/ has a list of just what I could find with some quick googling 01:25 <govatent> I'd be willing a few days a week help post and update our stuff 01:25 <chloric> yeah, the Linux Cafe has tons of photos 01:25 <mhall119> so I wanted to recommend we pick 2 or 3 to focus on 01:25 <Michelle_> I'll break out the editing fingers, if it'd be helpful. 01:25 <mhall119> IRC should definitely remain one of our main ways of staying in touch 01:26 <mhall119> we also have Facebook, Google+, discourse.ubuntu.com, ubuntu forums, etc 01:26 <mhall119> discourse is new, but very slick, it's like a better version of forums 01:27 <mhall119> how many of us are on facebook and/or google+? I'm on both pretty frequently 01:27 <itnet7> Me too 01:27 <ahoneybun> same 01:27 <Max-Tither> I personally like Google+ 01:27 <ahoneybun> same 01:27 <Michelle_> I facebook like a madwoman 01:27 <chloric> G+ is my preference, but I also want to start getting on the IRC channel more often 01:28 <Michelle_> I'm happy to mind the Ubuntu Fl Facebook page, if we have one. 01:28 <mhall119> ok, so Google+ seems popular, right now we only have a page, but we could change to using a G+ community if we wanted 01:28 <itnet7> We do michelle I can add you as an admin to the facebook page 01:28 <mhall119> I'll have to see who's admin on the Facebook page, it's not me, maybe itnet7 or dan? 01:28 <Michelle_> That'll work, itnet7 01:28 <mhall119> thanks itnet7 01:29 <mhall119> #action itnet7 to add Michelle_ as admin of the team Facebook page 01:29 * meetingology itnet7 to add Michelle_ as admin of the team Facebook page 01:29 <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/u/0/105170995860560250368/posts is our Google+ page 01:29 <mhall119> itnet7: are you an admin there too? 01:30 <itnet7> mhall119: I'll check 01:30 <itnet7> I just added Michelle 01:30 <itnet7> to facebook 01:30 <ahoneybun> I would like to help if I can 01:31 <chloric> any way we can get a custom URL? 01:31 <mhall119> ahoneybun: content will always be needed 01:31 <ahoneybun> yea 01:31 <Michelle_> got it, itnet7 01:31 <mhall119> ok, so IRC, Facebook, Google+, is everybody happy with focusing on those 3? 01:32 <mhall119> we can use discourse too, and see if we like it 01:32 <itnet7> It seems I am listed as the owner of the google+ team page 01:32 <mhall119> itnet7: can you add me as an admin there? 01:32 <itnet7> but I have to figure out how to create roles or give rights to others 01:32 <mhall119> since I'm on G+ a lot 01:32 <itnet7> yeah 01:32 <mhall119> thanks 01:32 <itnet7> I will as soon as I see how ;-) 01:32 <govatent> I love to follow and find Linux news 01:32 <mhall119> whomever is elected to the council we should add as admins too 01:32 <Michelle_> mhall119 and I can cross-post as necessary, too... since we share a living room. 01:32 <mhall119> :) 01:33 <govatent> I've found that reddit/Ubuntu and /Linux have good stuff in community news 01:33 <mhall119> yeah, anything you find that the team might be interested in we should post on those outlets 01:34 <Michelle_> govatent: if you'll email/IRC/whatever me links, I'll be sure they get FB crossposted, too. 01:34 <itnet7> mhall119: I just invited you to the team page, I think once you join I can make you a moderator 01:34 <govatent> Can we create a location so team members can submit content for posting? 01:34 <Michelle_> oh, that would be a good idea. 01:34 <munz> nice^ 01:34 <govatent> With approval 01:35 <mhall119> oh, a community now \o/ 01:35 <munz> :) 01:35 <mhall119> https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/116790741559809422077 anybody can join that now and post to it 01:35 <mhall119> govatent: we have the mailing list, and anybody can post to the G+ community or on the Facebook page 01:35 <mhall119> then one of us can share it *as* the page to spread it wider 01:36 <govatent> Alright 01:36 <munz> nice mhall119 01:36 <govatent> Btw, my phone is going to die soon 01:36 <mhall119> first thing I'll post is the log of this meeting :) 01:36 <mhall119> govatent: you know what I'll recommend 01:37 <mhall119> ok, last topic! 01:37 <mhall119> #topic Recurring meetings 01:37 <mhall119> this has been great, I'm really excited to have something going on across the whole team again 01:37 <mhall119> thanks everybody who came tonight 01:37 <govatent> If I disconnect it's cause my phone died. 01:38 <mhall119> to keep things rolling, we should setup regular meetings again 01:38 <Michelle_> Be sure to give it a proper funeral, govatent 01:38 <munz> lol 01:38 <mhall119> revive it, zombie phone! 01:38 <Max-Tither> haha 01:38 <munz> hehe 01:38 <govatent> If I may before we talk about reoccurring meetings, can we also mention the Linux cafe. 01:38 <govatent> Wanna say it now before I die 01:38 <mhall119> govatent: sure, but only because you're phone is dying 01:39 <itnet7> ;-) 01:39 <mhall119> death-bed promotions 01:39 <Michelle_> govatent's last stand! 01:39 <mhall119> govatent: ? 01:39 <mhall119> still with us? 01:39 <govatent> We can do it after. Chloric can tell you guys about it. 01:40 <mhall119> ah, ok 01:40 <mhall119> so, recurring meetings, monthly? bi-weekly? weekly? 01:40 <govatent> It's to much to type on my phone. 01:40 <govatent> Bi weekly is my vote 01:40 <mhall119> govatent: I'll make an open topic after this one 01:40 <ahoneybun> weekly or bi 01:40 <chloric> what's up? 01:40 <itnet7> govatent: is the indiegogo campaign still going on for PLC? 01:40 <mhall119> weekly might be too much, we've managed to have one all year in 2013 01:41 <munz> monthly or bi 01:41 <munz> monthly 01:41 <Michelle_> I suggest monthly, until we get our tushes in gear and have need for more frequently. 01:41 <munz> yes 01:41 <mhall119> how about the first-monday of the month? that would put the next one Jan 5th 01:41 <mhall119> same time and place 01:41 <munz> yes 01:41 <Michelle_> works 01:42 <mhall119> monday's seemed to work best when I polled people on the mailinglist 01:42 <ahoneybun> yea I think 01:42 <govatent> Alright 01:42 <chloric> that works 01:42 <mhall119> alright, I'll get it on loco.ubuntu.com 01:43 <mhall119> anybody can add agenda items to it between now and then, you just need to log in using Ubuntu SSO 01:43 <chloric> wait 01:43 <chloric> Jan 5th is a sunday 01:43 <chloric> you mean the 6th? 01:43 <mhall119> yeah, I can't read calendars evidently 01:43 <mhall119> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-us-florida/706/detail/ 01:43 <Michelle_> Well. 01:44 <chloric> oh ok 01:44 <chloric> perfect 01:44 <mhall119> also, we have Google Hangouts available now, which would let us use audio/video conferencing instead of IRC 01:45 <mhall119> is there any interest in using that for team meetings instead of IRC? 01:45 <govatent> Alright guys. I need to hop off. 01:45 <mhall119> IRC has the benefit of being logged, we get this lovely meetingology bot, and we don't need to wear pants 01:45 <itnet7> I actually like using g+ alot for meetings 01:46 <govatent> Don't forget about me! Chloric or itnet7 please tell the group about the stuff we've done in Milan 01:46 <Michelle_> I vote no pants. 01:46 <itnet7> ROFL 01:46 <govatent> And I do like both ideas 01:46 <munz> :) 01:46 <mhall119> govatent: someone will 01:46 <chloric> General meetings could be done of hangouts, but shouldn't board meetings on IRC? 01:46 <mhall119> there isn't much difference for us right now 01:46 <chloric> oh ok 01:47 <chloric> then nvm 01:47 <govatent> Except the pants 01:47 <Max-Tither> We could use both for those who can not get on hangouts. 01:47 <mhall119> ok, I'll make a note to start a hangout next time and we'll give it a test-run 01:47 <Max-Tither> But IRC does have the benefit of it being logged 01:48 <munz> and no pants 01:48 <mhall119> alright, that's it for the official agenda 01:48 <itnet7> We can record the hangouts right? 01:48 <mhall119> #topic open mic 01:48 <mhall119> itnet7: yes, but they're public on YouTube forever and ever after 01:48 <itnet7> OH 01:48 <itnet7> nvm 01:48 <itnet7> ;-) 01:49 <mhall119> yeah 01:49 <mhall119> chloric: ok, now's your time to tell us all about PLC 01:50 <chloric> Oh ok 01:50 <chloric> sure 01:51 <chloric> I find it to be a gathering place to share ideas and actually share technologies. They have nearly monthly capture the flag competitions and a wide variety of meetings too 01:51 <chloric> the owners and most of the patrons are very very approachable and eager to teach and spread linux as a platform 01:52 <mhall119> for those that don't know: http://planetlinuxcaffe.com/ 01:52 <mhall119> it's a cool little place in Miami that's linux-themed everything 01:53 <mhall119> they've hosted a number of in-person meetups that chloric and govatent organized 01:53 <chloric> There are plenty of individual interests at the cafe and competing opinions, but everyone is open to Linux in many ways. sure we argue over best DE or distro or whatnot, but everyone is using linux to some extent regardless of distro 01:53 <munz> i looked at the website it looks cool 01:53 <chloric> yeah, we've had a lot of events there 01:53 <mhall119> chloric: do you register those events on loco.ubuntu.com? 01:54 <chloric> it's awesome. they have plenty of gadgets to play with and 5 computers to tinker with 01:54 <chloric> a few server racks too 01:54 <ahoneybun> I for sure want to go there sometime 01:54 <itnet7> The owners have really supported the Florida Team, they have promoted release parties, and made custom cakes for everyone to help celebrate the release parties that have been held there! 01:55 <Michelle_> mhall119: roadtrip! 01:55 <chloric> Yeah, itnet has come to a few as well 01:55 <chloric> it's always awesome seeing ya itnet 01:55 <itnet7> thanks chloric 01:55 <munz> nice, can you just come in any time during biz hours? and they have coffee and such? 01:55 <itnet7> munz: yeah 01:56 <chloric> they have coffee, cakes, snacks, drinks and sandwiches 01:56 <munz> nice, soy milk? 01:56 <mhall119> itnet7: chloric: btw, if you guys want to get money for food or drinks at these events, we have some community budget from Canonical you can request 01:56 <itnet7> They even allow you to bring in Pizza from Dominos 01:56 <mhall119> http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/funding/ 01:56 <chloric> it's easy to spend between 5 and 10 bucks 01:56 <itnet7> Awesome mhall119 ! 01:56 <ahoneybun> I don't see any meetings this month for Ubuntu 01:56 <chloric> mhall119: really? 01:56 <mhall119> chloric: yup 01:57 <chloric> mhall119: that's good to know. we'll have to keep that in mind for 14.04 01:57 <itnet7> ahoneybun: we were having monthly meetings, but I think things have been really busy lately for the organizers 01:58 <mhall119> alright, well we've used up the full hour, is there anything else you guys want to talk about? 01:58 <itnet7> No, Thanks mhall119 so much for getting the ball rolling again!! 01:58 <Michelle_> mhall119: do you want to make an announcement about our tentative Qimo plans? 01:58 <mhall119> itnet7: happy to do it, want to get the Florida team rocking again 01:58 <mhall119> sure 01:58 <itnet7> Heck yeah! 01:59 <chloric> this'll be awesome too 01:59 <itnet7> Oh, QIMO PLANS woohoo!! 01:59 <mhall119> so for those that don't know, Michelle_ and I made an ubuntu-based distro for kids a few years ago called Qimo 01:59 <Michelle_> yes, sir, itnet7 01:59 <mhall119> and we want to reboot that too, and plan to put together a new release to coincide with 14.04 01:59 <itnet7> Excellent mhall119 ! 01:59 <mhall119> it'll still be Ubuntu-based, but we're going to switch it to Unity instead of Xfce, because it's close to what Qimo's old UI was, and will make it much easier to maintain 01:59 <itnet7> and Michelle_ of course ;-) 02:00 <mhall119> if anybody is interested in helping, email me: mhall119@ubuntu.com 02:00 <chloric> mhall119: you should come down and do a QIMO event alonside an Ubuntu gig 02:00 <Michelle_> mhall119's doing the hard work. I'm just gonna do the promotion! 02:00 <mhall119> chloric: maybe some time, it's a pretty long drive and we're not all as crazy as govatent :) 02:00 <mhall119> but we can maybe make a weekend of it 02:01 <chloric> true lol 02:01 <Michelle_> yes, we can. 02:01 <Michelle_> ::determined face:: 02:01 <chloric> awesome! 02:01 <itnet7> That would be awesome 02:01 <mhall119> alright, I'm going to wrap this up and post the logs 02:01 <mhall119> #endmeeting