== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Music app meeting, 19 Aug at 17:06 — 17:29 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2016/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2016-08-19-17.06.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (74)
 * ahayzen (69)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 17:06 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting

 17:06 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 19 17:06:58 2016 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 17:07 * popey stats the meeting!

 17:07 <ahayzen> \o/

 17:07 <popey> i have a couple of things to bring up :)

 17:07 <ahayzen> so looks like the autopilot fix landed :-)

 17:07 <popey> yay

 17:07 <popey> bzoltan will be happy

 17:07 <ahayzen> i've been working upstream on a few things...

 17:07 <popey> ooh?

 17:08 <ahayzen> been working with Jim to make a the MediaPlayer automatically reload if the service (media-hub) dies

 17:08 <ahayzen> got a prototype working for if media-hub dies once ... just twice it doesn't quite work for some reason, we're investigating

 17:08 <ahayzen> but basically means that if media-hub dies, you won't need to restart the app to get audio working again

 17:09 <popey> Oh that's nice

 17:09 <ahayzen> and my small patch into Qt has been sent for review ... which helps us to getting load/save working on the queue/playlists so we can load/save to m3u/pls etc

 17:09 <ahayzen> (instead of our super slow sqlite thingy)

 17:10 <ahayzen> and OPUS support is in a silo, i've tested that and it appeared to be working :-)

 17:10 <popey> Awesome.

 17:10 <ahayzen> so the telegram guys are now looking to reenable that within their app i believe

 17:10 <ahayzen> (for voice msgs)

 17:11 <popey> oooh!

 17:11 <popey> That will be nice!

 17:11 <ahayzen> yah :-)

 17:11 <popey> Didn't think anyone was touching telegram

 17:11 <popey> Although I imagine this is a "one line fix"?

 17:11 <ahayzen> and there is a performance related branch with florian has pushed but there were some issues i've commented back

 17:11 <popey> (for them)  😃

 17:11 <popey> ok, good stuff

 17:11 <ahayzen> there is *someone* working ish on it i think

 17:12 <ahayzen> popey, tracked here https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1460464

 17:12 <ahayzen> there is an assignee for telegram :-)

 17:12 <popey> ok

 17:12 <popey> ah, jin, good

 17:13 <ahayzen> i think that is all on my list at the moment...

 17:13 <popey> i can imagine a bunch of channels "testing" opus out

 17:13 <ahayzen> oh! and Jim has been working on getting media-hub to work on the desktop

 17:13 <ahayzen> haha oh god

 17:14 <ahayzen> (desktop aka unity8 desktop)

 17:14 <popey> Oh, good, that leads to my next question

 17:14 <popey> 16.10 will have unity8 in the image

 17:14 <popey> and snap support

 17:14 <popey> so.....

 17:14 <ahayzen> ooo

 17:14 <ahayzen> yup

 17:14 <ahayzen> we need to wait for media-hub to work on the desktop, and for them to support snaps first

 17:14 <popey> We need to re-visit a snap for music

 17:14 <popey> yes

 17:14 <ahayzen> i've been talking with jim about it

 17:14 <popey> ok

 17:14 <popey> good stuff

 17:15 <ahayzen> i've managed to snap one of my Bacon2D games up though :-D

 17:15 <ahayzen> just gotta figure out why LP isn't pushing it to the store :-/

 17:16 <ahayzen> popey, but yeah, snapification (or whatever we are calling it) is on the list

 17:16 <ahayzen> will we have UITK/ubuntu-sdk parts ?

 17:16 <popey> uh

 17:16 <popey> initially not yet

 17:16 <ahayzen> or plugs and sockets

 17:16 <ahayzen> would be nice if the base uitk was a template part that you could include

 17:17 <popey> Okay, so good news.

 17:17 <ahayzen> but i suppose it isn't that many packages to put int the stage ist

 17:17 <ahayzen> *list

 17:17 <popey> "Content snaps" have landed

 17:17 <ahayzen> hehe

 17:17 <popey> so we can make one snap kinda depend on another

 17:17 <popey> so there could be a uitk content snap

 17:17 <popey> shared to the music snap

 17:17 <ahayzen> ok

 17:17 <popey> bad news...

 17:17 <ahayzen> from say ..ubuntu personal snap

 17:17 <popey> not documented, and in the head of someone whose birthday it is today so he's afk :)

 17:17 <popey> and is busy

 17:17 <ahayzen> hehe :-)

 17:17 <popey> but we're trying to prise the info out of him

 17:18 <popey> and once we do, we (mhal119 and myself) will do demos to test it

 17:18 <popey> and then document etc

 17:19 <ahayzen> ok cool :-)

 17:19 * ahayzen still wonders how granular the snapification will be

 17:19 <popey> not that granular

 17:19 <ahayzen> like are we expecting media-hub and mediascanner to be separate ones ...

 17:20 <ahayzen> or are we expecting a ubuntu-touch snap...that has them all

 17:20 * popey waves hands around

 17:20 <ahayzen> and then just plugs and sockets

 17:20 <popey> maybe :)

 17:20 <ahayzen> :-D

 17:20 <popey> unity8, mir, uitk, media-support.. maybe

 17:20 <popey> guess that's a question for snappy and bill :)

 17:20 <popey> he'll have to support some of this stuff

 17:20 <ahayzen> yeah we'll find out in time i guess

 17:21 <popey> but we need to keep pushing that

 17:21 <ahayzen> yup over time i expect it'll become more granular

 17:21 <popey> maybe

 17:21 <popey> happy to tell you what I know

 17:21 <ahayzen> coolio

 17:21 <popey> got a postage stamp handy?

 17:21 <ahayzen> :')

 17:22 <popey> Ok, that was the only thing I had

 17:22 <ahayzen> why not discuss over a beer ? :')

 17:22 <ahayzen> lol

 17:22 <popey> YES!

 17:22 <ahayzen> popey, do we have timeframe for getting things ready for 16.10 ?

 17:22 <ahayzen> or does it not matter as much... as we are snaps now \o/

 17:22 <popey> well, we need a good story for launch day

 17:23 <ahayzen> ok

 17:23 <popey> given people will login to unity8 and go "ok, where's the apps?"

 17:23 <ahayzen> yeah

 17:23 <popey> also, i need to find out what the plan for a store is on unity8

 17:23 <ahayzen> i'll have to go back to trying to use unity8 :-)

 17:23 <popey> because currently the only gui is gnome-software

 17:23 <popey> heh

 17:23 <popey> "tying to"

 17:23 <ahayzen> snappy store scope? :-)

 17:23 <popey> needs one

 17:23 <popey> dunno whats in the pipeline to be honest

 17:23 <popey> good question

 17:23 * ahayzen waits for network indicator to work and basic things like that

 17:24 <popey> ah

 17:24 <popey> but on 16.10 it's all newer, so must be better

 17:24 <ahayzen> and i couldn't login to the ubuntu one account

 17:24 <popey> ah

 17:24 <ahayzen> yeah

 17:24 <ahayzen> that's also the problem

 17:24 <ahayzen> being on 16.04 it is 'fun' :-)

 17:24 <popey> yeah

 17:24 <ahayzen> and the LXC solution seems to not be so recommended now

 17:24 <popey> at least being in the archive means you can stick 16.10 on a usb or dual boot or whatever

 17:25 <popey> yeah, bin all that, use 16.10

 17:25 <ahayzen> i've got the PPA solution at the moment

 17:25 <ahayzen> with stable-phone-overlay thingy

 17:25 <ahayzen> but my nexus 4 using slimport seems more usable than my laptop :-)

 17:25 <popey> hah

 17:26 <ahayzen> i saw there were fixes for the touchpad two finger scrolling as well..so maybe that'll help my other issues

 17:26 <ahayzen> popey, but yeah, back on topic ... only other thing to discuss for music is the streaming designs

 17:26 <popey> sweet

 17:26 <popey> yes

 17:26 <popey> I can catch up with james next week when he is back

 17:26 <ahayzen> cool

 17:26 <popey> you're away for how long?

 17:27 <ahayzen> i put loads of comments in the doc IIRC

 17:27 <ahayzen> i'm away until...7th Sept

 17:27 <popey> awesome

 17:27 <popey> ok

 17:29 <ahayzen> popey, ok, shall we move onto weather?

 17:29 <popey> ok

 17:29 <popey> #endmeeting



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