== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: DocViewer meeting, 18 Feb at 15:04 — 15:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2016/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2016-02-18-15.04.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://paste.ubuntu.com/15111210/ that's the script I use to build (in chroot)
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1547059 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1547074 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (57)
 * sverzegnassi (39)
 * JMulholland (6)
 * balloons (4)
 * davmor2 (3)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 15:04 <popey> #startmeeting DocViewer meeting

 15:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Feb 18 15:04:39 2016 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 15:04 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:04 <popey> hey all

 15:05 <sverzegnassi> hi Alan!

 15:05 <popey> First item of news, latest LibreOffice built in the PPA, so I think all builds from this point will be using that.

 15:05 <popey> However, it seems builds are failing for me here.

 15:06 <sverzegnassi> That was one of my questions

 15:06 <popey> I get an odd error when building

 15:06 <popey> Error reading manifest from /tmp/clickpir896jc/data/manifest.json: Expecting property name enclosed in double quotes: line 16 column 1 (char 490)

 15:06 <sverzegnassi> Is that the docviewer click manifest?

 15:07 <popey> I'm not sure what's causing it tbh

 15:07 <sverzegnassi> mmh... how can i reproduce it on my PC?

 15:08 <popey> last build I have is on 16th

 15:09 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15111210/  that's the script I use to build (in chroot)

 15:09 <popey> run "fooo.sh armhf"

 15:09 <sverzegnassi> ok, thanks! As I go home I will have a look (I don't want to kill my poor netbook)

 15:09 <popey> heh, wise!

 15:10 <sverzegnassi> About the new libreoffice, there may be a problem :P

 15:10 <sverzegnassi> We've added the cache for the libraries we download from the repos, but actually that thing is running on jenkins too

 15:11 <sverzegnassi> Is there a way to detect if we're building on the bot?

 15:12 <popey> hm

 15:12 <popey> yes, i had to delete the cache on my pc, good point!

 15:13 <popey> perhaps we could add a build option "nocache" to cmake?

 15:13 <popey> which only gets called on jenkins?

 15:13 <sverzegnassi> that's the idea!

 15:14 <sverzegnassi> I've seen that we could check the path of the "build" folder, which seems to contain a "jenkins" substring

 15:15 <sverzegnassi> But I'd prefer a "stronger" solution, if there's any

 15:15 <popey> yes, i think just having a cache/nocache state would be enough

 15:15 <popey> I don't want to try and "guess" whether we're building on your laptop, my laptop, the cloud or whatever..

 15:15 <popey> shall I file a bug for this?

 15:16 <sverzegnassi> yes, thanks :)

 15:16 <popey> doing now

 15:16 <sverzegnassi> great!

 15:17 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1547059

 15:18 <sverzegnassi> ok, as we have solved this problem, when are we planning to release docviewer? IIRC we were saying to do two releases: one with the libreoffice update, and one with all the new stuff

 15:19 <popey> As soon as we have confirmed that a) the new build contains the new Libreoffice, and b) we have tested that it didn't break anything :)

 15:20 <sverzegnassi> Ok, so we could say: first release in two weeks from now, without any change to the libreofficekit plugin or the pdf one

 15:20 <sverzegnassi> the second release, at the end of March when OTA-10 is out

 15:22 <sverzegnassi> what scares me is the 66.6MB of the update, I guess we don't want to bother users with many releases in a single month

 15:24 <popey> Yes, there's not a huge amount we can do, but space out the releases a bit.

 15:24 <popey> I agree we don't want to do them tooooo often

 15:24 <popey> and once a month (or longer 6-8 weeks) seems a far cadence

 15:25 <sverzegnassi> good! I will have a look if we can add some further value to the upcoming release then (thumbnailer could be an idea)

 15:26 <sverzegnassi> ok, next question: which is the size of a window on the M10? :)

 15:26 <sverzegnassi> I'd like to understand why docviewer is not working as expected (you know, the pictures you sent in the other mail)

 15:27 <popey> I don't actually know.

 15:27 <popey> I don't have a bq tablet.

 15:27 <sverzegnassi> who could I ping for this info? ubuntu-phone mailing list?

 15:28 * popey looks at davmor2 :)

 15:28 <popey> he's super busy, but if we ask him nicely he may have time to provide you with the data you need

 15:28 <davmor2> me looks around

 15:28 <sverzegnassi> hi davmor2!

 15:29 <davmor2> ping me tomorrow afternoon

 15:29 <popey> I'd recommend dropping davmor2 an email with what you're after, and then he can get to it when he has time.

 15:29 <sverzegnassi> ok, thank you guys! :D

 15:29 <davmor2> sverzegnassi: dave.morley@canonical.com

 15:30 <popey> Thanks davmor2

 15:31 <sverzegnassi> Another thing we have to fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1545142

 15:32 * popey looks

 15:34 <popey> one for JMulholland

 15:34 * JMulholland takes note

 15:34 <popey> Some kind of "toast" like notification which tells you how to get out of presentation mode might be worth doing?

 15:35 <JMulholland> That could work, i’ll revisit the notifications UX spec and have a think

 15:35 <sverzegnassi> well, we could also use the coachmarks specs we got for terminal-app

 15:36 <JMulholland> hm, I'm not sure coachmarks are the right thing in this case

 15:36 <JMulholland> as they tend to obscure the UI for the purpose of tutoring the user

 15:36 <JMulholland> I’ll have a look at what we have and get back to you

 15:36 <sverzegnassi> yeah, makes sense.. thanks!

 15:36 <popey> thanks JMulholland

 15:37 <sverzegnassi> JMulholland: thanks a lot!

 15:38 <popey> Ok, any more topics (I have one more)

 15:38 <sverzegnassi> I'm all ears

 15:38 <JMulholland> fire away

 15:38 <popey> We're doing some planning to join Google Summer of Code

 15:39 <popey> Our application has to be finished by tomorrow

 15:39 <popey> So balloons and the rest of the team are working on tasks we think people might be interested to take on during the summer this year

 15:39 <popey> (if our application is successful)

 15:39 <popey> I wondered if you guys had any "big ticket" significant-size features that you think might be interesting for GSoC students to work on.

 15:39 <sverzegnassi> edit mode for libreofficekit?

 15:40 <popey> That's a very good one.

 15:41 <popey> balloons: ^ what do you think of that one?

 15:41 <popey> mobile editing of documents in docviewer.

 15:41 <popey> via libreofficekit

 15:43 <popey> Well, have a think, and if you come up with anything interesting over the next day, feel free to ping it to us :)

 15:43 <sverzegnassi> ok, will do!

 15:43 <popey> Thanks

 15:43 <popey> Ok, that was all I had.

 15:44 <popey> I'll file a bug about the build failing too

 15:44 <popey> so we can track it

 15:44 <sverzegnassi> Ok, i will have a look later

 15:44 <sverzegnassi> I don't have anything else to discuss too...

 15:45 <sverzegnassi> Could you have a look at the terminal-app mailing list?

 15:45 <balloons> ohh nice

 15:45 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bug/1547074

 15:45 <balloons> sverzegnassi, could you mentor a student on that?

 15:45 <popey> sverzegnassi: will do!

 15:46 <sverzegnassi> sverzegnassi: I should be a student for that :P

 15:46 <sverzegnassi> balloons: ^^ (I'm stupid and I talk to myself :P )

 15:47 <balloons> sverzegnassi, :-)

 15:48 <sverzegnassi> Seriously, I don't know if it's a good idea to have me as mentor :P

 15:48 <popey> i do :)

 15:48 <balloons> you don't have to have all the answers -- just know where to find them!

 15:50 <popey> Well, have a think about it sverzegnassi :)

 15:50 <popey> Are we done?

 15:50 <sverzegnassi> popey, balloons: ok!

 15:50 <sverzegnassi> (I'll have a think)

 15:51 <popey> thanks :)

 15:51 <sverzegnassi> NOthing else from me... have a nice weekend guys!

 15:51 <popey> you too!

 15:51 <popey> #endmeeting



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