16:49 #startmeeting Weather app meeting 16:49 Meeting started Fri Oct 23 16:49:30 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 16:49 16:49 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 16:49 * ahayzen moves the curtains ... gloomy 16:49 Hello hello! 16:49 hey, how's your week been? 16:49 Get new ones. Nobody wants gloomy curtains 16:49 Hey guys! 16:49 haha student life 16:50 :) 16:50 Super stuff. 16:50 Thanks again for the last minute fixes to get the weather in the store. 16:50 Busy, but it's the weekend so that's all behind me now 16:50 Seeing positive reviews turn up already! 16:50 everyone get my mass email thing earlier ? 16:50 :-) 16:50 What email was that? 16:50 https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.weather 16:50 Ohhh, bug fix releasing? 16:50 like 20+ fix committed -> fix released 16:50 Surprisingly few bug mails 16:50 hehe 16:51 we need to go through the old apps ones now, and invalid/fix-released them 16:51 yea, I saw the 50+ emails in my inbox this morning and was wondering who to blame 16:51 "This app is 100% better with the new version, it looks great and I can actually use it now. Well done to all involved" 16:51 :-D 16:51 Yeah, that's a nice way to end the week! 16:51 \o/ 16:51 Well done. 16:51 So, agenda. 16:51 * UC1.3 16:52 * UOS (done?) 16:52 * AOB 16:52 * convergence 16:52 Go! 16:52 * 2.1 16:52 oh yes. 16:52 ok .. again we have a listitems thing 16:52 i'm gonna create a UC1.3 bump over the weekend that that can be rebased onto 16:52 Yea, we'll have to pick that up and try to verify what still needs to be done 16:52 yeah it'll need tweaks to the listitems as i changed the way the animations etc were done 16:53 is that a team branch? 16:53 I think we can make the UC1.3 bump for the next OTA here as well, it'll just be harder than for music 16:53 I thought it was 16:53 eh i think once we have fixed the issues with music, we can pretty much copy across 16:53 yeah. 16:53 right 16:53 so that should be pretty simple 16:54 listitems affect/are used more in music so i wanna focus testing and coding on that first 16:54 then just copy what we have learnt into the weather branch 16:54 agreed, we're almost there for music, so shouldn't be too long 16:54 yup 16:54 ok next! 16:54 UOS 16:54 oo we have a session :-) 16:54 :) 16:55 so for both music+weather we can pre-fill the pad as usual 16:55 We can start putting together an agenda for the session(s) in the pad 16:55 yep :) 16:55 +1 16:55 :-) 16:55 link to the docs we have in there too 16:55 coolio 16:55 any design docs, the poll results, everything (music etc) 16:55 :-) 16:56 I think a big topic for uos will be the alerts for weather 16:56 be good to put some thought into that before hand 16:56 yeah, did you remember the plan you came up with for that? 16:56 Nope! 16:56 :'( 16:56 Hence why I need to put some thought into it :D 16:56 vthompson, didn't we have something else we delayed for 2.1? 16:56 weather map? 16:56 ah yes! 16:56 Ah! 16:56 Good call. 16:57 rainfall radar, IR satellite etc 16:57 did we ask for design for that? 16:57 nope 16:57 Don't think so 16:57 that'd be sooooo cool 16:57 It'd be nice to get design to come up with a way of displaying the info 16:57 yeah 16:57 * ahayzen tries to remember if we can get the last 5hrs of rainfall ... so then we could animate 16:58 Maybe we could look at other apps we like on other platforms for inspiration, in lieu of design input? 16:58 yeah 16:58 Having never needed a map, I kinda dunno what the key things are you need 16:58 I have an ios and android devices though so can have a look around 16:59 my dad uses a rainfall radar all the time 16:59 I bet we'd just put another icon in the upper right and then the UI for the actual map would be just a standard full screen 16:59 yeah, like a round radar icon 16:59 yea 16:59 big scrolly map 16:59 Design: DONE 16:59 Next! 16:59 like all you need is a few frames of the rainfall and you can tell which way it is going and if your gonna get wet 16:59 with maybe one icon on the map to "close" it 16:59 pffft 17:00 what else for 2.1? ... 17:00 hm 17:00 I think that's gonna be enough? 17:00 more providers ;-) ? 17:00 hopefully now OWM has an API key it won't go down as much 17:00 I know design was really keen on "natural language" forecasts when they originally did the design 17:00 yeah, if we know of any regional ones, that would be good to get others to contribute 17:01 I'm keen on other people contributing the backends 17:01 * ahayzen notes he should create a README to tell developers they will need to get their own OWM key or ask us for one 17:01 especially if they are from a specific region (e.g. India / Russia) 17:01 yeah 17:01 didn't we put it in keys.js? 17:01 localised weather providers :-) 17:01 as a comment 17:01 we did 17:01 but its not obvious if you just branch and run the code 17:01 ok, should add docs and I can add to the core apps website 17:02 lemme know when you add it, and I'll point to it from there 17:02 coolio 17:02 so alerts, maps, providers and natural language 17:02 For the weather alerts, who else do we need to include in the discussion 17:02 Depends how we architect it 17:02 The first two being the more important 17:02 security/privacy people and design ? 17:02 yup 17:03 but yes, we should come up with a high level plan and run it past design / security 17:03 oooo convergence! 17:03 that was it! 17:03 lol 17:03 Didn't we sort of have a plan for the alerts when the design spec came out? 17:04 not really, we came up with using account-polld but that was it 17:04 I wonder what a converged weather app would look like 17:05 no scrolling 17:05 MASSIVE clouds 17:05 daily info to the right ? 17:05 or would you show multiple days 17:05 Well... 17:05 and you probably wouldn't need to toggle the hourly info 17:05 popey, do we know what clock is doing? i sense we may want to consider if they show multiple locations or just further info 17:05 No. 17:05 that could be underneath the *massive* cloud 17:06 yea probably 17:06 i vote we just try a few things and then present to design 17:06 as we've done with music 17:06 as that seems to work well ;-) 17:06 +1 17:06 see which ones get people making youtube videos 17:06 :) 17:06 popey, did you figure out where that mockup of music came from ;-) 17:06 hah, no. I didn't ask tbh 17:07 oh from that blog post? 17:07 vthompson, did you see this? http://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/10/20/ubuntus-path-to-convergence/ 17:07 yah 17:07 yea, I was wondering who made it as well 17:07 vthompson, also note in the mockup, all the cards are the same size 17:07 * ahayzen was wondering if we could jump to GridView ;-) 17:07 I expect it was jouni 17:07 now that thumbnailer is super duper fast 17:08 anyway this is music not weather... 17:08 :) 17:08 lol 17:08 We should have one meeting for both, for maximum confusion. 17:08 Ok, anything else for weather? 17:08 erm... 17:09 where is that bug you reported... 17:09 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1509298 17:09 we should probably check out that 17:09 For convergence, do we want to do prototype branches and share on social media sometime in the future 17:09 ? 17:09 +1 17:10 we could create a poll :') lol 17:10 i think a video/photo and then read the comments would be best tbh 17:10 :D 17:10 ya 17:11 Well, the poll thing worked out really well. 17:11 Lots of positive comments, enough votes to be worthwhile. 17:11 it did, but that was for features 17:11 True. 17:11 so it didn't matter if your vote came second/last where as this is do we want A or B 17:12 people that vote the lower option would feel left out/bad 17:12 so i think comments would be better 17:12 Okay. Makes sense. 17:12 Right, we done? 17:12 think so 17:12 So for that bug, I think the way we get the user's location is different 17:12 so it's expected that it wouldn't match, per se 17:13 vthompson, maybe but it is consistently ~1°C out 17:13 so i was wondering if there is a rounding error somewhere 17:13 The website and the app say I'm in different towns even 17:13 It'd be odd if it's always 1 deg 17:13 and this is what was said on the coreapps mailing list 17:13 It's 5 degrees for me 17:13 "First of all, great new design of the app and the it is more smooth than ever. 17:13 I realize that the values of weather on the app is not the same on the Weather Channel website. Same location with different results." 17:14 well i searched for say London, or Oxford and they were slightly out between web and app 17:14 but we don't know how *far* out this persons results were 17:14 We should investigate further, but I assume it's a location detection issue--which should be a non-issue 17:15 yeah, it was just something i wanted to investigate and not be lost really :-) 17:15 cool, yea 17:15 Is that everything? 17:15 Nothing more from me 17:16 don't think so, ooo should we change trunk to be /reboot now? 17:16 or will CI somewhere explode ? 17:16 yes 17:16 oh, don't think so 17:16 oh yeah 17:16 but lets do that on monday when people can fix it if it does :D 17:16 meanwhile ... we have https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/ and ... 17:16 ah, do you want to do that ahayzen ? 17:16 https://ubuntu-community-testing.staging.ubuntu.com/reports/overview 17:16 now 17:16 vthompson, lets do it on monday as popey said 17:17 note most of the manual test results for the music sd card that fail state "i don't have a SD card" 17:17 cool, sounds good 17:17 have a good weekend guys! 17:17 you too :-) 17:18 Thanks again chaps! 17:18 \o/ 17:18 Have a good weekend, see you next week! 17:18 #endmeeting