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14:42 <gang65> Now I need call for testing on Ubuntu-Phone mailing list. I would like to make sure that DST change is rock solid
14:42 <JMulholland> good plan
14:42 <popey> I expect we will hear about it vocally if it's not working :D
14:43 <JMulholland> I’ll make sure it’s all up to date on my reference devices
14:43 <JMulholland> ha, I suspect youre right popey
14:43 <gang65> :-D
14:43 <popey> We can certainly set alarms and ensure they fire at the right time each day
14:44 <gang65> Just your collegues will be at work one hour earlier
14:44 <gang65> There is one special case:
14:45 <popey> :)
14:45 <gang65> If the alarm is set, when it cannot ring in after DST change
14:46 <gang65> For example 12.30
14:47 <gang65> I mean during DST change, there is one blank hour. Withing this hour the alarm will not start ringing.
14:47 <popey> ah right, yes.
14:47 <JMulholland> hm
14:48 <gang65> The alarm should be "Passed" then
14:48 <gang65> It is similar situation when you will just turn off your phone, and alarm will pass without ringing
14:48 <popey> right
14:49 <gang65> I will prepare some test cases for community,
14:49 <JMulholland> understood, although I can’t help but worry that someone might really, really need to get up at half-past midnight on the day DST take effect :P
14:50 <gang65> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Procedure
14:50 <popey> :)
14:52 <gang65> At the beginning of DST, the alarm will not ring
14:52 <gang65> When DST ends, it should ring twice :-P
14:52 <gang65> Am I right ?
14:53 <JMulholland> no alarm when the clocks go forward, double alarms when the clocks go back, right?
14:53 <gang65> yes
14:54 <JMulholland> its that ‘no alarm scenario’ that makes me nervous. It’d be a low priority/ edge case thing…. But maybe rather than ‘no alarm’ we’d still run an alarm at what *would have been* the correct time?…
14:54 <JMulholland> Just something to consider
14:56 <gang65> ok
14:56 <gang65> Let's say we beginning of DST.
14:57 <gang65> So there will be time jump from 00:00 to 1:00
14:57 <gang65> And user set time for 00:30
14:57 <gang65> Should alarm start ringing at 1:00
14:57 <gang65> ?
14:58 <popey> Hm
14:58 <popey> My initial question would be "what do other platforms do?"
14:58 <gang65> the user is already late 30 minutes :-)
14:58 <gang65> In my opinion they do not ring
14:59 <gang65> It is similar situation with changing timezones
14:59 <gang65> And for Android it doesn't ring when you change timezone
14:59 <gang65> I need to confirm that
15:00 <gang65> DST is horror for computers
15:00 <gang65> Thats why it is using Universal Time
15:01 <gang65> Generally I think Clock app is quite stable
15:01 <gang65> I will continue polishing it
15:01 <gang65> till New Design :-)
15:02 <gang65> Can we swith to Calculator meeting :-)
15:03 <gang65> I have an question regarding that
15:07 <popey> sorry
15:07 <popey> I got dragged away from my keyboard
15:08 <JMulholland> np :)
15:08 <popey> #endmeeting