19:40 <popey> #startmeeting Music meeting
19:40 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 28 19:40:35 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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19:40 <popey> o/
19:40 <vthompson> hey popey ahayzen!
19:40 <popey> heya!
19:40 <ahayzen> o/
19:41 <popey> So we have an approved clock with the custom alarms, by QA
19:41 <popey> We need to submit music too.
19:41 <popey> when you're ready
19:41 <ahayzen> big news, we're at commit 900+ now!
19:41 <vthompson> We should be ready
19:41 <ahayzen> yup we are ready :-)
19:41 <vthompson> ooo, that's a lot of commits!
19:41 <ahayzen> just updated the readme
19:41 <ahayzen> and the translations are done from what i can see?
19:41 <ahayzen> do we need chinese as well or not ?
19:41 <vthompson> who will be 1000... Probably Launchpad Translations
19:41 <popey> So let me know when you want me to submit to QA
19:41 <ahayzen> most likely
19:41 <popey> I can do that anytime.
19:42 <ahayzen> now? ;-)
19:42 <vthompson> How bad are we in chinese?
19:42 <ahayzen> ignoring Chinese (Hong Kong) pretty good
19:42 <vthompson> yea, probably just missing that 1 new string
19:42 <ahayzen> yup
19:43 <ahayzen> popey, is EN and spanish the only requirements ?
19:43 <popey> no
19:43 <vthompson> It might be good to get that in this update. Will QA be able to review today? Or should we wait til Monday?
19:43 <ahayzen> i vote wait until monday to give the translators a chance
19:44 <vthompson> In my mail to translators, I kinda made it sound like Spanish was the only requirement
19:44 <popey> german, italian, french, spanish, english, chinese
19:44 <ahayzen> as we did mail them, but only given them like 24hrs lol
19:44 <popey> I think are the minimum
19:44 <popey> Well, no QA will be done this weekend
19:44 <popey> so lets wait for weekend translations to land on monday and submit then?
19:44 <ahayzen> german and chinese are missing
19:44 <vthompson> Agreed
19:44 <ahayzen> yup
19:45 <vthompson> Maybe I should reply to the translations email asking specifically for German and Chinese?
19:45 <popey> It's a public holiday on monday, so we may be down some resources
19:45 <popey> (in the UK)
19:45 <ahayzen> :-)
19:46 <vthompson> If we wait til Monday, does that mean nik90 might want to get some of his more recent changes into the clock's update?
19:47 <popey> he has some translations to land too I think
19:47 <ahayzen> clock has already passed QA in its current form
19:47 <popey> no more fixes
19:47 <popey> ya
19:47 <vthompson> k
19:47 <ahayzen> popey, were you able to demo anything in the end, at the sprint?
19:48 <vthompson> Demo what?
19:48 <popey> I didn't, but instead I made a video and shared it with the company
19:48 <ahayzen> ah cool
19:49 <popey> pmed you the link
19:49 <popey> its unlisted, and I told company not to share
19:49 <ahayzen> vthompson, i gave popey a snapshot of the convergence stuff
19:49 <ahayzen> coolio
19:49 <vthompson> ah cool.
19:50 <ahayzen> hehe its improved alot since this morning :-)
19:50 <vthompson> I kinda want to talk about that a bit. We have some prototypes for Now playing toggle using the same section headings.. which would still work
19:50 <ahayzen> possibly we need to wait for t1mp's new component before we can have headers in the sidebar
19:50 <vthompson> But we had discussed having a "Songs" tab toggle for sorting the songs by date and alphabetically. Maybe such a feature will need to be a header action?
19:51 <ahayzen> (basically he is writing a component that you can add to any other Item which gives it a header)
19:51 <ahayzen> vthompson, i would say that is more a header action (the toggle for sorting)
19:51 <ahayzen> but in the convergence long run would we want to be able to sort by mulitple fields ?
19:52 <ahayzen> as you can in a normal gtk treeview/listview
19:52 <vthompson> Probably multiple sort fields
19:52 <ahayzen> yeah so if you had a header actions or something to then allow you to select which field to sort by that would be cool
19:52 <vthompson> We probably want to redesign that page for desktop/tablet anyway. It's not good in wide view
19:53 <ahayzen> yeah
19:53 <ahayzen> as many of the views arent' :-/
19:53 <ahayzen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1397582
19:53 <vthompson> But maybe they'll look ok with the new layout changes
19:54 <ahayzen> i think that'll help for the short term but they'll still need to be tweaked
19:54 <vthompson> The SDK team is planning on having the columns be resizable right?
19:55 <ahayzen> yup
19:55 <ahayzen> and more columns
19:55 <ahayzen> we're restricted to 2 at the moment
19:55 <ahayzen> i wanna make the left one bigger :-)
19:55 <vthompson> I wanna make the right one bigger :)
19:56 <ahayzen> eventually they'll be user resizeable ..much like a Pane in Gtk
19:56 <ahayzen> oh no the right is an Item we can make that bigger :-)
19:56 <vthompson> ah
19:56 <ahayzen> i'm currently thinking of making it expand as the app expands
19:56 <vthompson> so the only other large item is mh3 and getting us updated for a hopeful ota7 drop with the new background playlists
19:56 <ahayzen> basically the adaptivepagelayout's left/right are 40GU atm .. so i made the sidebar 30GU to then match the 70GU
19:57 <vthompson> i see
19:57 <ahayzen> but say your 100+GU then we could make the sidebar bigger for that case
19:57 <ahayzen> both this and bg-playlists i see being a OTA7/8 drop
19:57 <popey> That's ambitious
19:57 <popey> But would be most welcome
19:58 <popey> I'd like to get wide testing of that.
19:58 <vthompson> ha, will we have a new framework for ota7?
19:58 <popey> yes
19:58 <ahayzen> there are quite a few bugs in the sdk blocking this tim reckons he *may* be able to get most done for ota7 but if not hopefully 8
19:58 <ahayzen> (most are actually from the head sections lol)
19:58 <popey> I pounced on pmcgowan when he arrived this week and he nudged a bug which adds more frameworks
19:58 <popey> he thought it had already landed, and now will
19:58 <ahayzen> yeah we need a new framework badly
19:58 <ahayzen> for media-hub and for 1.3 uitk
19:58 <popey> yup
19:59 <popey> it will land soon
19:59 <ahayzen> sweet
19:59 <vthompson> So would each be a diff framework? Or can we assume mh3 and 1.3 uitk will be the same new framework?
19:59 <ahayzen> i think they'll be on the same?
19:59 <ahayzen> they are both targeting OTA7 for an initial release
19:59 <popey> well technically 1.3 is already on all images
20:00 <ahayzen> yeah ;-)
20:00 <ahayzen> whether they are just pre-baked or not is the question ;-)
20:01 <vthompson> cool, so ahayzen do you want to run through the list of mh3 issues we had previously and update the list with what's fixed in the recent mh3/qtubuntu-media update?
20:01 <vthompson> Or should I?
20:01 <ahayzen> i sent a mail this week? with the latest list ?
20:01 <ahayzen> Jim should be back on this list either today/next week
20:01 <vthompson> Yep, so I can check to see what's been fixed if you want me to
20:01 <ahayzen> he just had to do MPRIS support first
20:02 <ahayzen> yeah :-)
20:02 <vthompson> oh, so that's probably all that's new
20:02 <ahayzen> or just ask him ;-)
20:03 <vthompson> So, were there any action items from last week to talk about?
20:03 <vthompson> Were we going to make polls or anything?
20:03 <ahayzen> maybe for streaming ?
20:03 <ahayzen> but we've got distracted with convergence and bg-playlists lol
20:03 <ahayzen> oh were we going to poll the "feature request" ?
20:03 <vthompson> Would it maybe be premature to ask the community about streaming?
20:03 <ahayzen> possibly
20:03 <vthompson> yea features is more what I was thinking
20:04 <ahayzen> i think maybe wait for design and mh confirmation before streaming
20:04 <vthompson> same
20:04 <ahayzen> ok so list of features to poll for.. like favourites
20:05 <ahayzen> as in the ability to favourite a track ... not your favourite feature to add ;-)
20:05 <popey> streaming is massively dependent on platform
20:05 <ahayzen> is one for the poll from me
20:05 <popey> +1
20:05 <popey> I would love that
20:05 <ahayzen> maybe being able to sort views by different things could be one ?
20:05 <ahayzen> it seems quite simple
20:06 <ahayzen> being able to switch between cardview/listview on some views
20:06 <vthompson> Agreed. I think our action from last week was to kinda curate your list ahayzen and then give it to popey to put in a poll
20:06 <ahayzen> and one feature i've wanted alot recently (and now with convergence) is to be able to go "Play/show all tracks for this artist"
20:07 <vthompson> yea, cardview to listview toggle.
20:07 <vthompson> If we could get a section heading for the header of that view that'd be cool
20:07 <ahayzen> so that looks like a provisional list of things :-)
20:07 <ahayzen> yeah that'd be cool
20:08 <ahayzen> or even just a custom thing like we've had before in prototypes ?
20:08 <vthompson> possibly
20:09 <ahayzen> we can prototype :-)
20:09 <ahayzen> it'll have to get the votes first though ;-) lol
20:09 <vthompson> ha, design by committee
20:09 <ahayzen> \o/
20:10 <vthompson> anything else that we need to talk about for music?
20:10 <ahayzen> not really, i'll continue hacking on this convergence thing and hopefully get a WIP branch up soon
20:10 <popey> Awesome
20:10 <ahayzen> i'm afk most of the weekend though so it'll probably be early next week
20:10 <popey> So one thing to bear in mind...
20:11 <popey> Think of october as a target for an alpha of a convergent image
20:11 <popey> would be good to be in that :)
20:11 <ahayzen> ooo
20:11 <popey> early alpha
20:11 <vthompson> Octobe is also OTA7 right?
20:11 <ahayzen> we might be ontrack for that :-)
20:11 <popey> yup
20:11 <ahayzen> then OTA8 late nov/early dec
20:11 <vthompson> Yea, I think we are on track for an alpha
20:12 <ahayzen> OTA8 we should definitely have something functional assuming SDK have fixed the bugs
20:12 <popey> yeah, i dont think more than two OTAs for the rest of this year
20:12 <ahayzen> cool
20:12 <vthompson> are any of the other core apps doing converged designs ATM?
20:12 <ahayzen> dekko ?
20:13 <ahayzen> alot of the system-apps
20:13 <popey> calendar will too
20:13 <ahayzen> ooo that could be interesting
20:13 <popey> but it's still early sketch level
20:13 <vthompson> ok cool
20:14 <ahayzen> ok is that all ?
20:15 <popey> Think so.
20:15 <popey> #endmeeting