== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: notes meeting, 27 Aug at 15:38 — 16:35 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-08-27-15.38.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aw94i12b7Gc-xwUU2V73uz4H5jknMz8xHoa6mAW6mJc/edit?usp=sharing 
''LINK:'' http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=reminders-app 
''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app/+bugs 
''LINK:'' https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/job/reminders-app-ci/ 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (90)
 * mzanetti (79)
 * balloons (8)
 * JMulholland (7)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 15:38 <popey> #startmeeting notes meeting

 15:38 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:38:10 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 15:38 <meetingology> 

 15:38 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 15:38 <mzanetti> haha

 15:38 <popey> So a couple of things from this sprint worth noting:-

 15:38 <popey> Been doing a lot of testing of nexus 4 + mouse / kb + screen

 15:38 <mzanetti> uh!

 15:38 <popey> been taking notes and have bugs to file all over the place, which is my friday activity I think :)

 15:39 <mzanetti> that works for me...

 15:39 <popey> Some, I am not sure if they're unity or app specific

 15:39 <mzanetti> so basically topic is: Let's converge!

 15:39 <popey> e.g. mouse wheel

 15:39 <popey> yes!

 15:39 <popey> basically no apps scroll when you use the wheel

 15:39 <mzanetti> right... I think no support in unity yet

 15:39 <mzanetti> should be pretty high up the list by now tho

 15:39 <mzanetti> within next 4 weeks I expect

 15:40 <popey> okay

 15:40 <mzanetti> also: if we're getting serious about windowed mode, I would prefer switching to the multicolumn view thing from SDK

 15:40 <mzanetti> and dropping my hacky self-made way of that

 15:40 <popey> saves me one bug report

 15:40 <popey> +1

 15:41 <mzanetti> and, I would really want some designer to give some advice too

 15:41 <popey> they were showing off a bunch of apps here which are landing converged views

 15:41 * mzanetti waves at JMulholland

 15:41 <mzanetti> that helps a lot

 15:41 <popey> I think he has a call at this time. I will go and have a chat with him

 15:41 <popey> Addressbook and messaging app

 15:41 * JMulholland waves back at mzanetti

 15:41 <mzanetti> :D

 15:41 <popey> they have some nice designs for converged view

 15:42 <popey> which morph nicely between portait and landscape

 15:42 <mzanetti> ah ok. messaging app is quite similar

 15:42 <mzanetti> I'll check that out then to get some inspiration

 15:42 <popey> Another thing that works nicely in landscape is file manager

 15:42 <JMulholland> well, the messaging app was preceded by our work on Dekko

 15:42 <JMulholland> so no suprises there ;)

 15:42 <popey> the side panel containing "Places" shrinks when not used

 15:42 <mzanetti> hmm... I guess I should check out dekko then :D

 15:42 <popey> to make more room for the main panel

 15:43 <popey> JMulholland: got a link to the dekko design doc handy for mzanetti ?

 15:43 <JMulholland> sure

 15:43 <JMulholland> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aw94i12b7Gc-xwUU2V73uz4H5jknMz8xHoa6mAW6mJc/edit?usp=sharing

 15:43 <popey> ta

 15:43 <popey> mzanetti: also, i note we don't have copy/paste yet, or it's broken :)

 15:44 <popey> I tried to copy out of notes by long pressing, and it didn't work here

 15:44 <mzanetti> popey, do you mean ctrl+c/ctrl+v?

 15:44 <mzanetti> or the touch longpress thing

 15:44 <mzanetti> I think mir/qtmir is lacking support for that still... and I think it works in reminders on X11

 15:45 <JMulholland> the wirerfames have fallen a little behind the visual design now (as thats being overhauled and I’ve been spec’ing other things), but I’ll forward those to you too

 15:45 <popey> touch long press

 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, depends on what branch you used

 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, we haven't released that yet

 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, that's why I'm pestering you so much about the release

 15:46 <popey> ah okay

 15:46 <popey> heh, noted ;)

 15:46 <popey> trunk doesn't work on desktop either :)

 15:47 <popey> x11

 15:47 <popey> i mean, i can't highlight a line

 15:47 <mzanetti> JMulholland, that's fine for me... I won't implement that spec anyways, just need some inspiration how to handle toolbars/views in reminders

 15:47 * mzanetti tries

 15:48 <mzanetti> building...

 15:49 <mzanetti> This is text from a note

 15:49 <mzanetti> copy/pasted that from a note ^

 15:50 <mzanetti> using ctrl+c/ctrl+v

 15:50 <mzanetti> text

 15:50 <mzanetti> copy/pasted that using mouse only ^

 15:50 <mzanetti> so...

 15:50 <popey> did you use the mouse to hilight the line?

 15:50 <mzanetti> first time kbd (shift+arrows)

 15:50 <mzanetti> second time, double-click

 15:51 <popey> ah, you have to be in edit mode?

 15:51 <mzanetti> also works in the view mode, but only with double-click, not with click+drag

 15:51 <mzanetti> which I think is an issue in the browser tho

 15:51 <popey> ok, i believe you :)

 15:52 <popey> i can't even hilight a line

 15:52 <popey> you using kde?

 15:52 <popey> :)

 15:52 <mzanetti> no... unity7

 15:52 <popey> hm

 15:52 <mzanetti> are you running latest trunk?

 15:53 <popey> a few days old

 15:53 <popey> [M#n6ii  reminders-app                            0.4+15.04.20141118-0ubunt amd64                     Reminders application

 15:53 <popey> uh

 15:53 <popey> wtf

 15:54 <mzanetti> wat?

 15:54 <popey> lulz, the version of the archive

 15:54 <popey> seems to have removed the one I dpkg installed

 15:54 <mzanetti> 20141118

 15:54 <mzanetti> dude

 15:54 <popey> so yeah, ignore me

 15:54 <popey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=reminders-app

 15:54 <popey> we should remove that

 15:54 <popey> or update it

 15:54 <mzanetti> yeah

 15:54 <mzanetti> that sounds like an action point for you :)

 15:55 <popey> okay

 15:55 <popey> noted

 15:55 <popey> which, remove or update?

 15:55 <mzanetti> hmm... good question

 15:55 <mzanetti> what are the other core apps doing?

 15:55 <popey> not being in the archive

 15:55 <mzanetti> lol

 15:55 <mzanetti> ok... remove then

 15:55 <popey> ok.

 15:56 <popey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app/+bugs

 15:56 <popey> uh

 15:56 <popey> ok, lets remove

 15:56 * popey has noted this

 15:57 <mzanetti> popey, what's with that but list?

 15:57 <mzanetti> oh

 15:57 <mzanetti> bugs we missed because they were filed for the package

 15:58 <popey> yeah

 15:58 <popey> luckily not many of them :)

 15:58 <mzanetti> that's quite recent tho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app/+bug/1484421

 15:58 <mzanetti> orange circle of death :D

 15:58 <mzanetti> seems more a unity/qtmir bug tho

 16:00 <popey> i like that name

 16:00 <popey> yeah, we can triage that list quickly

 16:01 <popey> Okay, so I will push Notes to QA to the store once that merge you mentioned is landed, yes?

 16:03 <mzanetti> yes please

 16:03 <popey> ok

 16:05 <popey> You know, part of me thinks we should update the repo and not remove it

 16:05 <popey> It's an evernote client, people always want evernote clients.

 16:05 <mzanetti> works for me

 16:06 <mzanetti> but I can't maintain it

 16:06 <mzanetti> it would need to be you to do the updates etc

 16:06 <mzanetti> I can and will try to do my best to fix bugs, also for desktop etc

 16:06 <mzanetti> but you'd need to do the package mangling

 16:07 <popey> hm. let me have a think :)

 16:07 <popey> I'd hate for us to yank it and people not to have a nice way to have the app

 16:09 <popey> given we went through the faff of getting it into the archive in the first place

 16:09 <popey> makes sense to update it really?

 16:09 <popey> okay. I'll see how much effort it is to update it.

 16:09 <popey> we dont muck about with packaging much, so shouldn't be too much work :)

 16:09 <popey> Anything else?

 16:10 <JMulholland> nothing from me, let me know if you need any design help with those toolbars/views mzanetti!

 16:11 <mzanetti> popey, I've moved most of those bugs over to the app

 16:11 <mzanetti> one of them, which is about the .deb package name is still there

 16:11 <mzanetti> popey, I think there's another one about this... something about the evernote plugin

 16:11 <mzanetti> if we keep being in the archive we should look at those

 16:12 <popey> okay

 16:12 <mzanetti> JMulholland, ack, I will

 16:12 <popey> oh, hang on, didn't we remove the evernote plugin from the archive?

 16:12 <popey> only the sandbox one iirc

 16:12 <popey> but yes, i agree

 16:12 <mzanetti> I think it is still there, and that's what this bug is about

 16:12 <mzanetti> let me find it

 16:14 <popey> which bug?

 16:14 <mzanetti> can't find it any more :(

 16:14 <popey> hah

 16:14 <popey> I'll have a look for them

 16:14 <popey> no worries

 16:14 <mzanetti> popey, ah, one thing that comes to mind still

 16:15 <mzanetti> afaik some community apps are currently migrating to jenkins as a service

 16:15 * popey pokes balloons

 16:15 <mzanetti> i'd be interested in that for reminders too

 16:15 <popey> (anyone who mentions jenkins, triggers my balloons ping)

 16:15 <mzanetti> I see it as a chance to enable the qmltests

 16:16 <popey> Yeah, I don't know the status of that.

 16:16 <popey> ooh

 16:16 <balloons> haha

 16:16 <mzanetti> balloons, think we can try to set that up?

 16:16 <balloons> we can enable the qmltests sure. I've been using reminders as a testbed. We just got the prod service online. I mean literally just 10 mins ago

 16:17 <popey> hah

 16:17 <popey> Timing++

 16:17 <balloons> https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/job/reminders-app-ci/

 16:17 <mzanetti> balloons, there are some branches who add even more qmltests for reminders

 16:17 <balloons> I'm was going to start testing it this afternoon

 16:18 <mzanetti> balloons, if we can get those running I'm confident all future tests will too (at least in the foreseeable future)

 16:18 <mzanetti> balloons, if you get that one through a jenkins, you'd be my hero of the week: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/qmltest3/+merge/253753

 16:18 <mzanetti> ;)

 16:19 <balloons> whoa.. that's an oldie.

 16:19 <mzanetti> yeah... we nerver merged it because well, jenkins couldn't do

 16:19 <balloons> is it ready to land? We can certainly land it I think

 16:19 <balloons> sounds like a challenge. Sure, let's try

 16:19 <mzanetti> I think it should be ready... maybe some conflicts, because it is old, but I could certainly fix them asap

 16:19 <balloons> right right

 16:25 <popey> Ok, anything else?

 16:31 * popey tickles mzanetti

 16:32 <mzanetti> hihi

 16:32 <mzanetti> no... can't think of anything else atm

 16:35 <popey> ok!

 16:35 <popey> Thanks chaps!

 16:35 <popey> ping me if i dont notice that merge land :)

 16:35 <popey> #endmeeting



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