== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: clock meeting, 27 Aug at 14:34 — 15:12 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-08-27-14.34.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1487735 
''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1487717 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * nik90 (45)
 * popey (37)
 * JMulholland (10)
 * gang66 (9)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 14:34 <popey> #startmeeting clock meeting

 14:34 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 27 14:34:28 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 14:34 <meetingology> 

 14:34 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 14:34 <popey> o/

 14:34 <nik90> \o

 14:34 <popey> well, we can't upload clock to the store without music, right?

 14:34 <popey> so music needs QA too

 14:35 <nik90> indeed, I will have to check how much has changed in music-app since their last update in the store.

 14:36 <popey> r704 vs r867

 14:36 <popey> oh, wrong app, no

 14:36 <nik90> current music-app rev 901

 14:37 <popey> 892vs901 https://code.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/refactor

 14:37 <popey> I will ask andrew and victor if it's ready for qa, if so can do

 14:37 <nik90> that's not much..3 bugs fixes and the rest are translations

 14:37 <nik90> ok

 14:38 <nik90> they still need translations though

 14:38 <nik90> for that 1 string "Export songs"

 14:38 <popey> I can put a call out

 14:39 * popey does that now

 14:39 <nik90> oke, best to check with them in case they were planning to add new strings as part of a bug fix.

 14:39 <gang66> WHat will happen when someone didn't update music app?

 14:39 <popey> custom alarms wont work

 14:39 <gang66> and update clock app?

 14:39 <popey> bad times :)

 14:39 <nik90> when you try add a custom sound, the peers will show "No apps to import custom sound from"

 14:39 <nik90> it will not *break* clock app

 14:39 <gang66> ok

 14:39 <nik90> just that custom sound feature will not be useful

 14:39 <gang66> so it is acceptable

 14:39 <nik90> yes

 14:40 <nik90> Since the last time you guys tried stopwatch and custom sounds feature, we have landed quite a number of bug fixes for them.

 14:40 <gang66> But you could always import from other apps

 14:40 <popey> yeah, but no other app exposes that

 14:40 <gang66> SoundRecorder

 14:40 <popey> oh, true

 14:40 <nik90> gang66: no other apps installed by default is a music source

 14:40 <gang66> aaa

 14:40 <gang66> ok

 14:40 <popey> apparently victor sent out a call for translations 8 mins ago

 14:40 <nik90> I suppose default is the keyword there

 14:41 <nik90> ah cool

 14:42 <popey> ok, spoke to ahayzen, we have a plan

 14:44 <popey> maybe stagger them, music first, clock next day

 14:44 <popey> you don't need OTA-6 do you?

 14:44 <nik90> ack.

 14:44 <nik90> nope, I made sure things are compatible with OTA-5

 14:44 <popey> awesome

 14:45 <gang66> Yes, I tested it and it is working fine with OTA-5

 14:45 <popey> nik90: any idea why the location doesn't update?

 14:46 <popey> ooh

 14:46 <popey> it does work on my retail krillin

 14:46 <popey> but not my home brew flash one on rc-proposed

 14:46 <nik90> popey: what's different in your home brew?

 14:47 <popey> no here gps i guess?

 14:47 <nik90> because when I look at the code, it checks user location on *every* app start and if coordinates are different, then it geolocates and updates the settings file.

 14:48 <popey> [M#b=http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-08-27-154759.png

 14:48 <nik90> But I haven't been able to test that bit since I don't travel far now

 14:48 <nik90> enough*

 14:48 <popey> i am apparently in "Puddle Dock"

 14:48 <popey> I'll test it a bit more when I'm out this evening

 14:48 <popey> my nexus 4 has never run clock, and is just sat saying "Retrieving location"

 14:49 <popey> again, nexus 4 probably missing here blob

 14:49 <nik90> for nexus 4 I had that issue until I flashed it with bq-aquaris_en image

 14:49 <nik90> then I got the location

 14:50 <nik90> Feel free to test the bug and if the location changes, please mark it invalid.

 14:50 <popey> okay

 14:50 <nik90> JMulholland: I need your opinion on 2 bugs. Minor ones.

 14:50 <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1487735

 14:50 <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1487717

 14:51 * JMulholland looks

 14:52 <nik90> popey: I am happy to see 2 EditAlarm bugs fixed. One was critical and the other was olliver's bug.

 14:52 <nik90> nice of ContentHub to expose the first critical bug which was already present in the store version.

 14:53 <JMulholland> On bug 1 - a divided list between custom (deletable) and standard (not deletable) would be preferable, for sure

 14:53 <nik90> JMulholland: divided by section headers? Or just a divider like we have in the indicators?

 14:55 <JMulholland> It would be nice to have section headers that read ‘custom sounds’ and ‘default sounds’ i think

 14:56 <nik90> ack. Should be easy to add them.

 14:57 <JMulholland> when there aren’t any custom sounds already we at least have the ‘add custom sounds’  item there, so it’ll never be empty

 14:59 <nik90> I was thinking of showing the "Custom Sounds" section header below the button. It will be visible only where there are custom sounds added by the user.

 14:59 <nik90> But I suppose having it at the very top is also doable

 14:59 <JMulholland> On bug 2 - MPT is the designer who takes care of check-boxes, I would go with his recommendation in order to be consistent with everything else. So, showing a tick-mark to indicate the current alarm sound that is selected (rather than a checkbox) seems the right way to go

 15:00 <JMulholland> actually nik90 your suggestion sounds good

 15:00 <nik90> cool. I now know how to proceed on both the bugs then.

 15:01 <JMulholland> I’ll see if I can find us a good example of subsections/headers in a list and also check the latest SDK component designs to see what they have to say on the matter too

 15:01 <nik90> okay

 15:01 <nik90> I took the idea after seeing the address-book app which used those subsections/headers

 15:02 <nik90> s/took/got

 15:02 <JMulholland> That’s a pretty strong exaple of the pattern in action, good choice

 15:03 <JMulholland> I’ll let you know if anything has changed in the currently propossed design for the list item SDK components

 15:03 <nik90> okay

 15:07 <nik90> I think I didn't have much to add otherwise.

 15:08 <nik90> Bartosz and I are carefully cleaning up the code as we go. It is much more organized now and with a couple more MPs on the way.

 15:08 <popey> okay.

 15:08 <popey> Sweet!

 15:08 <nik90> and we rely more on c++ plugins that seem to do the job much cleaner and quicker

 15:09 <nik90> I will talk to balloons about the autopilot situation. It slipped my mind due to our work on v3.5.

 15:10 <nik90> that will hopefully be our focus on 3.6

 15:11 <popey> Okay, anything else?

 15:11 <nik90> nope

 15:12 <JMulholland> not at my end

 15:12 <popey> \o/

 15:12 <popey> thanks guys

 15:12 <popey> I'm on vacation next week, but will be around and about as always, so can upload to the store etc

 15:12 <popey> #endmeeting



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