== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Weather meeting, 24 Jul at 20:18 — 20:51 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-07-24-20.18.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/daily_clicks/ many builds!



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * ahayzen (96)
 * popey (50)
 * vthompson (40)
 * balloons (17)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 20:18 <popey> #startmeeting Weather meeting

 20:18 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jul 24 20:18:41 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 20:18 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 20:18 <popey> \o/

 20:18 <ahayzen> weee \o/

 20:18 <popey> Ok, who's here for the weather meeting? :)

 20:19 <ahayzen> so we have https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-ap-create-fake-env/+merge/265191

 20:19 <ahayzen> pick me o/

 20:19 <vthompson> ahayzen, I think we should be able to land that today

 20:19 <vthompson> I'll rerun the tests and I think we're good

 20:19 <popey> excellent.

 20:19 <ahayzen> \o/ i'm going out in a bit so if there are any issues it'll be tomorrow but if its cool land it!

 20:19 <popey> What's our list of to-do for weather before we can submit it to QA? realistically.

 20:20 <ahayzen> then if someone wants to think of test cases write detailed bugs .. i don't mind writing the AP tests

 20:20 <vthompson> From then on out, we should be able to support people who want to help fix the autopilot bugs we have

 20:20 * ahayzen will take the hit of writing AP tests as long as the bugs are detailed ;-)

 20:20 <ahayzen> and ofc community folks can write them :-)

 20:20 <popey> :)

 20:20 <ahayzen> so what do we need for MVP ?

 20:21 <vthompson> ahayzen, agreed, and I'll hopefully help with a few as well. I think it'd be good to see if other people want to contribute too

 20:21 <ahayzen> i think alot more things are now working ?

 20:21 <vthompson> Yea, I have a handful of mps that I think finish off the last of what needs to be in the app

 20:21 <ahayzen> yeah hopefully

 20:21 <ahayzen> then just 'use it' for a few days and i'm sure we'll find mini issues

 20:22 <vthompson> I have a bug written against the need for weather alerts, but that isn't a regression from the current app, obviously

 20:22 <ahayzen> also there is a sdk listitems bump from nik waiting until the same sdk bugs are fixed

 20:22 <ahayzen> this should improve the scrolling up/down performance (which is slow atm)

 20:22 <vthompson> ah, and realistically we prob won't be able to land before OTA6 anyway

 20:22 <ahayzen> (or i hope it will)

 20:22 <ahayzen> yeah i'd say this is a between OTA6->7 job

 20:23 <popey> Okay.

 20:23 <ahayzen> if we aim *for* OTA6 then we can land shortly after?

 20:23 <vthompson> Sure,

 20:23 <vthompson> but I think we really have a rather full plate already

 20:23 <ahayzen> :-)

 20:24 <vthompson> If we could get community contributions for tests I think that'd help us out a bit

 20:24 <ahayzen> its much closer than it was i was using it on the bus back to tell me how wet i was getting/going to get :-)

 20:24 <ahayzen> i feel MVP is close now though :-)

 20:24 <vthompson> I agree. Tests are the elephant in the room

 20:25 <ahayzen> yup

 20:25 <ahayzen> if both of us just write a test every 2/3 days we'll have like 6 tests by next week

 20:25 <vthompson> lol

 20:25 <popey> :)

 20:25 <ahayzen> just we need to actually think of the tests to write as well

 20:25 <popey> Glutton for punishment

 20:26 <ahayzen> and i vote to put each test into its own MP so we don't block the landing of any

 20:26 <ahayzen> popey, do you know the state of jenkins AP on vivid ?

 20:26 <vthompson> So, I think we can just do some soliciting for assistance, but we certainly should be able to finish them off in between ota6 and 7

 20:26 <ahayzen> i saw an email saying WIP ?

 20:26 <popey> no, i know balloons_ is on it.

 20:26 <ahayzen> ah cool

 20:26 <popey> but I think he's not on irc due to network issues

 20:26 <ahayzen> hehe

 20:26 <vthompson> ahayzen,  yea, 1 test per mp

 20:27 <ahayzen> 'network issues' ..  he is hiding from my questions

 20:27 <ahayzen> yeah we need to give this to QA at some point and to other community people to test and most likely find bugs

 20:27 <ahayzen> there are some weird things like double results when searching i've done before

 20:28 <ahayzen> but mostly it is functional

 20:28 <balloons> I think I can see you?

 20:28 <ahayzen> balloons, o/

 20:28 <balloons> I have clones everywhere it seems

 20:28 <ahayzen> balloons, that qmltestrunner thing on device worked btw thanks :-)

 20:28 <vthompson> Yea, let's include weather in our social solicitations this wkend. Maybe I'll write a blog post about getting it installed via my PPA... but I would need to find a way to include the API key

 20:28 <balloons> yea, pretty slick

 20:28 <ahayzen> :-)

 20:29 <ahayzen> vthompson, just tell them to use the openweathermap ?

 20:29 <ahayzen> we could build a click that only has that as an option?

 20:29 <vthompson> That'd work, but I think they'd be plagued by the start up issues

 20:29 <ahayzen> startup issues?

 20:29 <vthompson> Things getting just a white screen

 20:30 <ahayzen> i mean build a click that is hardcoded to openweathermap

 20:30 <ahayzen> just fix the setting to the value

 20:30 <ahayzen> then it should work?

 20:30 <vthompson> I suppose, and we don't really need desktop testers

 20:30 <ahayzen> nope

 20:30 <ahayzen> ok we'll investigate that as well :-)

 20:30 * ahayzen senses many TODOs

 20:31 <ahayzen> ok is that all? vthompson popey ?

 20:31 <popey> hmmm

 20:31 <popey> I do daily builds of the clicks on my laptop

 20:31 <vthompson> This kind of brings up an interesting question. Should we fix this per nik90's request? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1471329

 20:31 <popey> and I inject the key when I do that

 20:31 <vthompson> Can we?

 20:31 <popey> we could use that click and use twc?

 20:32 <balloons> ohh right

 20:32 <ahayzen> isn't the key canonical's?

 20:32 <balloons> the key file is important as I'm setting up the new jenkins

 20:32 <ahayzen> yeah it is :-)

 20:32 <vthompson> :)

 20:32 <balloons> can we magically avoid having to inject it?

 20:32 * popey comments on that

 20:32 <ahayzen> balloons, this is the WIP AP tests for weather btw https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-ap-create-fake-env/+merge/265191 :-)

 20:32 <ahayzen> popey, i thought before we were hiding it for a reason ?

 20:33 <vthompson> I wonder if we should have code that automatically sets as OWM if the key variable is blank

 20:33 <popey> we were

 20:33 <ahayzen> 'were' or 'are' ?

 20:33 <popey> we hid it because TWC asked us to

 20:33 <ahayzen> hah

 20:33 <popey> and still do because that hasn't changed

 20:33 <popey> ooh, I like that idea vthompson

 20:33 <ahayzen> ok so yeah why don't we ... if the key is empty use OWM

 20:33 <popey> but that would hide problems in the build process

 20:33 <vthompson> agreed

 20:33 <ahayzen> put that in the bug report

 20:33 <ahayzen> ...assign to vthompson ;-) hehe

 20:34 <vthompson> \o/

 20:34 <popey> we'd need a test to prove TWC is working, and fail if not

 20:34 <ahayzen> yeah we can do that?

 20:34 <ahayzen> or have that as a manual test?

 20:34 <vthompson> Well, we mock the service anyway

 20:34 <popey> I mean, if the key fails to get injected, some test should fail somewhere

 20:34 <popey> we have had that fail before

 20:34 <popey> oh, true

 20:35 <ahayzen> vthompson, 'mock' .. inject values into our db that happen to come from TWC

 20:35 <balloons> ohh, you know what, I don't have a weather job in the new jenkins

 20:35 <balloons> wow

 20:35 <balloons> I was going to let you know if things were building ok or not. The status on the overall project is we're working on getting devices up and running for testing. Building clicks, checking out the code all works

 20:36 <ahayzen> awesome

 20:36 <vthompson> So, if we build a click once things like good to test for the community, how do we want to coordinate that?

 20:36 <vthompson> Mailing list?

 20:37 <popey> i can build the click and put it on people.canonical.com

 20:37 <popey> which is where we usually put it

 20:37 <popey> you just tell me what bzr rev to build and I'll put it there

 20:37 <ahayzen> awesome :-)

 20:38 <ahayzen> right is that all?

 20:38 <vthompson> k. I think we should land the remaining feature mps before soliciting the public though

 20:38 <popey> +1

 20:38 <popey> if we mail the list, others will pick up on it and we can spread socially

 20:38 <ahayzen> yup and at least get AP landed

 20:38 <vthompson> Yea that sounds good

 20:38 <ahayzen> (so that people can contribute tests)

 20:39 <vthompson> agreed

 20:39 <balloons> ahayzen, did you plan on having some lower level tests as well.. are there any?

 20:39 <ahayzen> balloons, 'lower level' we have 2 atm .. test empty state.. test mocking

 20:40 <ahayzen> lookie here https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-ap-create-fake-env/+merge/265191

 20:40 <ahayzen> then hope to build on them to test each of the views

 20:40 <balloons> i see only tests/autopilot/

 20:40 <ahayzen> oh you mean /unit

 20:40 <balloons> ^^

 20:40 <ahayzen> probably not for weather yet

 20:41 <ahayzen> music i'm WIP but as discussed they *may* need to be manual but gonna try and make a script which can do it automatically

 20:41 <vthompson> Yea, it'd be good to get unit tests in there, but for now we are concentrating on getting back up to parity of the old app's test coverage

 20:41 <ahayzen> exactly AP first then unit

 20:43 <balloons> k. So I'll try and build weather now. Should I use the reboot branch then?

 20:43 <balloons> Do we care about trunk?

 20:43 <ahayzen> -reboot please

 20:43 <popey> we're basically not touching trunk, only reboot

 20:44 <popey> although I still build a click every day :)

 20:44 <ahayzen> oh btw me and victor have a new policy of keeping the changelog upto date as well so if either of us haven't updated it then feel free to slap us/mark as needs fixing :-)

 20:44 <popey> kk

 20:44 <popey> also AUTHORS :)

 20:44 <ahayzen> heeh :-)

 20:44 <ahayzen> and that

 20:44 * ahayzen has a list of many things to check for each MP now

 20:44 * ahayzen wishes he could somehow add that checklist to LP so it could have the checklist built into the MP itself

 20:45 <vthompson> Copy paste into the description each time?

 20:45 * balloons creates job

 20:45 <ahayzen> effort

 20:45 <ahayzen> i see thats what the canonical guys do with unity etc

 20:45 <ahayzen> "Have you made design changes, if yes have they been approved [y/n]"

 20:46 <ahayzen> but having that built into LP would be *so* useful

 20:46 <popey> you can add a txt file when you bzr push can't you?

 20:46 <ahayzen> like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/Checklists/Unity8

 20:46 <ahayzen> no i mean a checklist for the reviewer to go through

 20:47 <ahayzen> - if new UI strings have been added, has the person rebuilt the pot? [y/n]

 20:47 <balloons> sweet, it builds fine

 20:47 <popey> of course! :D

 20:47 <popey> (with the key?)

 20:47 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/daily_clicks/ many builds!

 20:47 <balloons> no key.. so heh, I wonder if the click works :p

 20:47 <ahayzen> did we remove the depends on c++ in the end to be pure QML?

 20:47 <ahayzen> vthompson, ^^?

 20:48 <vthompson> yep, thankfully

 20:48 <popey> yeah, it's at thin package now

 20:48 <ahayzen> but IIRC is there left over stuff?

 20:48 <vthompson> hm, maybe a backend directory?

 20:48 <popey> no cpp in the reboot branch

 20:48 * ahayzen thought it did something the other day when he ran $ click-buddy .

 20:48 <vthompson> no, I think things are good

 20:49 <popey> Ok, anything else?

 20:49 <vthompson> Not from me

 20:49 <ahayzen> maybe the cmake needs updating http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-weather-dev/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot/view/head:/CMakeLists.txt#L14

 20:49 <ahayzen> not from me :-)

 20:49 <popey> yeah.

 20:49 <popey> it builds fine as a thin package, just needs a little tidy

 20:49 <ahayzen> yup

 20:50 <popey> Ok, same time, same place next week, shorter meetings?

 20:50 <ahayzen> maybe and yes

 20:50 <ahayzen> vthompson, did you want weekly or bi-weekly?

 20:50 <vthompson> Agreed

 20:50 <ahayzen> or shall i just turn up weekly anyway and bounce info to you?

 20:50 <vthompson> Bi-weekly would work for me, but next week is good

 20:50 <ahayzen> awesome!

 20:51 * ahayzen sense beer o'clock

 20:51 <popey> ok, see you next week chaps!

 20:51 <popey> have a good weekend

 20:51 <popey> \o/ BEER!

 20:51 <ahayzen> you too

 20:51 <ahayzen> \o/

 20:51 <vthompson> So most likely I can attend bi-weekly starting next week

 20:51 <popey> ok, thats cool

 20:51 <ahayzen> cool

 20:51 <vthompson> Rats it's only 4 here... no beer for me

 20:51 <popey> o/

 20:51 <popey> #endmeeting



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