12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
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12:02 <popey> Hows it going?
12:02 <faenil> yo
12:02 <popey> hi boren !
12:02 <faenil> all good :)
12:02 <popey> hey
12:02 <popey> Is James back from holiday yet?
12:02 <boren> Hi popey
12:02 <DanChapman> It's going good thanks.
12:02 <DanChapman> no next week
12:02 <DanChapman> boren o/ hey!
12:02 <boren> Hi Dan
12:04 <popey> ah okay
12:04 <DanChapman> so popey has already seen this. I've been protoyping how dekko will work with convergence https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhxYaiA7z1qSFVqODdCaVdTdDg/view?usp=sharing (video quality is poor)
12:05 <DanChapman> boren do you have access to james's UX doc? did you get an invite?
12:05 <boren> DanChapman: No, I guess
12:06 <boren> I am working with the app spec now.
12:06 <DanChapman> popey: can only james invite or can any canonical employee share it?
12:07 <popey> let me seee
12:08 <faenil> DanChapman: cool stuff
12:09 <faenil> DanChapman: just fyi, the sdk guys are working on a component which will be used for that purpose (multi columns)
12:09 <popey> is it https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aw94i12b7Gc-xwUU2V73uz4H5jknMz8xHoa6mAW6mJc/edit ?
12:09 <popey> ah yes
12:10 <popey> no, i cant, sorry.
12:10 <popey> I have requested that boren get access, but james will have to do that
12:10 <popey> In the meantime, feel free to print as pdf and share with boren
12:10 <DanChapman> faenil: when is that expected to land. The recent blog post suggests these components won't come until 1.4 and after 15.09
12:11 <DanChapman> I wonder if I can copy it. ill look into after the meeting
12:11 <faenil> DanChapman: it will land in 1.3
12:11 <faenil> MultiColumnView
12:12 <DanChapman> ahh ok cool thanks
12:13 <faenil> it has funcs to add pages to current and next columns, and the view will arrange the pages depending on where you add the pages
12:14 <DanChapman> excellent
12:14 <faenil> DanChapman: ETA latest end of July
12:15 * DanChapman makes note
12:15 <faenil> and the header will resize to have the same height on all the pages
12:16 <faenil> headers*
12:16 <DanChapman> nice! :)
12:19 <faenil> :)
12:19 <popey> Ok.
12:19 <popey> Look forward to that.
12:20 <popey> DanChapman: I've had no feedback about notifications, will chase up.
12:20 <DanChapman> That protoype is all I really have for an update this week. I just a have a bucket load of questions to bombard james with when he get's back.
12:20 <popey> heh :)
12:21 <popey> Did you manage to get a fat package built?
12:21 <popey> Or did I miss a link?
12:21 <DanChapman> yeah i sent you a link, let me find it.
12:22 <DanChapman> https://goo.gl/1MSHgN
12:22 <DanChapman> it has not translations though
12:22 <popey> ok
12:23 * popey downloads
12:23 <popey> thanks DanChapman
12:23 <popey> I have a question for you..
12:23 <popey> Are there any specific areas you need help with?
12:23 <popey> Not necessarily from Canonical, but perhaps community developers?
12:24 <DanChapman> Everywhere :-D
12:24 <DanChapman> heh
12:24 <popey> Hm, okay :)
12:24 <popey> Let me rephrase.
12:25 <popey> Do you have any bitesize pieces of work which could perhaps be taken on?
12:27 <DanChapman> Yes, so there are lots of little qml bugs that need fixing. Also I really need some help with the message view template, i'm not that great with html/css which for someone who knows it, it's not a big task
12:27 <popey> Okay.
12:27 * popey makes notes
12:28 <popey> Anything else we need to discuss?
12:29 <DanChapman> not atm
12:29 <boren> What recent contact do we need to collect?
12:29 <boren> It says "most recent senders & recipients" in the doc
12:29 <DanChapman> i'll get a more complete list of bitesize stuff that we need help with and send you a link.
12:30 <popey> ok, thanks DanChapman
12:30 <boren> Is that from all contacts recorded or from all emails we send and recieve?
12:30 <DanChapman> boren: I would just store the recent recipients we send to who are not in the address book.
12:31 <boren> DanChapman: alright then
12:31 <boren> DanChapman: maybe  also include ones that is in the address book>
12:32 <DanChapman> why mix them?
12:33 <faenil> alright, I'm off to lunch then guys :)
12:33 <popey> o/ faenil
12:33 <faenil> o/
12:33 <DanChapman> I think the idea is to show in the composer auto completion a list of both save contacts and "recent other"
12:33 <faenil> popey: calendar in 30?
12:34 <DanChapman> o/ faenil
12:34 <popey> faenil: 25 :)
12:34 <boren> DanChapman: "recent" sound like it can include recent recipients whether they are included in address book or not
12:34 <faenil> :)
12:35 <boren> DanChapman: I mean for the recent tab on the address book page
12:35 <DanChapman> boren: ohhhh now I get you
12:37 <DanChapman> I still think recent contacts shouldn't contain address book contacts. What about adding a last contacted date field to the addressbook and filter them into the recents list?
12:38 <DanChapman> so we would have to update the addressbook on submission but that's not really an issue
12:39 <popey> On other platforms the most recent is bubbled to the top, for easy picking with just a thin line between recent and everyone else. Is that what you're thinking?
12:40 <DanChapman> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UGddusaEb9JRox8Lv-qa5baqs13zEq1l3g4m5qblk1M/edit#slide=id.gae74895aa_5_0
12:41 <boren> DanChapman: by updating the addressbook, do we still need to record contacts that is not recorded?
12:42 <DanChapman> popey: from what I understood from talking with gventuri was we would have a seperate recents list to the address book. Same as how thunderbird does it. So you don't have to commit to a one recipient being stored in you address-book but it is quickly available from the recent's list should you need it again
12:43 <DanChapman> *one time recipient
12:43 <popey> right
12:43 <popey> makes sense
12:44 <DanChapman> boren: yes if a recipient is not in the address-book then store it in a recent list. It would probably make sense to trim the recipient list after X days to only keep the most recent to hand.
12:44 <DanChapman> *recent list
12:45 <boren> So the recent tab should display contacts that are recipients lately regardless of whether that email is recorded in the address book?
12:45 <popey> yes
12:45 <popey> IMO
12:46 <DanChapman> +1
12:46 <boren> DanChapman: Great, I know how it behaves now.
12:46 <DanChapman> awesome
12:46 <DanChapman> thanks boren
12:47 <DanChapman> Right better let popey go grab a coffee before his next meeting
12:47 <popey> :D
12:47 <DanChapman> :-D
12:47 <popey> Thanks guys.
12:47 <DanChapman> thanks!
12:47 <popey> #endmeeting