12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
12:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 14 12:01:42 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
12:01 <meetingology> 
12:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
12:01 <popey> Hey guys, how are you doing?
12:02 <DanChapman> I'm doing great thanks. You recovered now?
12:02 <faenil> doing good thanks :)
12:03 <DanChapman> Hey JMulholland
12:03 <popey> heya JMulholland
12:03 <popey> mostly
12:03 <popey> still a bit woozy
12:03 <JMulholland> hey DanChapman and popey :)
12:03 <JMulholland> not well popey?
12:03 <JMulholland> or just a heavy night? ;)
12:03 <popey> wasn't, better now.
12:03 <popey> hah, i wish
12:04 <JMulholland> glad to hear it
12:04 <popey> DanChapman: so OTA 3.5 went out earlier in the week.
12:04 <popey> OTA 4 is due ~28th March I believe
12:04 <popey> and will be vivid based. FYI
12:05 <DanChapman> Awesome, i can't release any updates till we hit vivid now anyway.
12:05 <DanChapman> I've made some great improvements to the message list views performance. It flies along now but it depends on non broken chroots which utopic ones basically suck for installing additional deps
12:07 <faenil> popey: you're lagging a couple of months behind :D
12:07 <popey> hah
12:07 <popey> sorry, yes, 28 may
12:07 <popey> duh
12:07 <popey> brain not functional
12:08 <faenil> :)
12:08 <DanChapman> HAve you heard anything more on the polld notifications I was going to get hold of bret next week as it's still unclear if polld is going to do it or they provide a hook to run a dekko binary
12:09 <DanChapman> I'm kind of in limbo about starting anything
12:09 <popey> No, We should get an update from bret.
12:09 <popey> Want me to follow up on that mail thread?
12:09 <popey> (feel free to if you'd rather)
12:10 <DanChapman> popey: if you want to, i don't mind either way :-)
12:10 <popey> ok
12:10 <DanChapman> also there is this https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1378343
12:11 <DanChapman> I'm not sure how that is going to work as dekko can't use contacts like calendar does.
12:13 <popey> hmm
12:15 <DanChapman> JMulholland: I have one for you as well https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/+bug/1454308 can we drop the text in the multi-select menu actions and just use the icons?
12:15 <DanChapman> :-)
12:15 <JMulholland> taking a look
12:16 <DanChapman> gventuri previously said it needed to stay consistent with other apps but the strings don't fit in certain locales. IMO the icons are clear enough
12:17 <JMulholland> Hm, that doesnt seem right to me
12:17 <JMulholland> perhaps design has moved on since then, but in the vast majority of other apps labels arent used
12:17 <JMulholland> e.g. multi select in the contacts app: just icons, no labels
12:18 <DanChapman> ok then so i can just drop the labels then.
12:18 <JMulholland> so yea, I’d say dropping the labels for the multi-select menu should be fine
12:18 <DanChapman> awesome
12:23 <DanChapman> Sorry about that laptop overheated
12:24 <popey> ok.
12:25 <popey> So anything else that's blocking you or you need help with DanChapman ?
12:26 <DanChapman> I'd like to get started on figuring out message threading. I feel the current UX design is a little weird in how it opens a new view to display the items in the thread and then tap again to open and individual message. It just seems a bit weird with the extra msg list step
12:27 <popey> Is that a commonly requested feature?
12:28 <DanChapman> I've had quite a few now yeah.
12:29 <DanChapman> threads, pgp/gpg/smime & notifications are the 3 top ones I hear
12:30 <JMulholland> we’ve actually been asked to take a look at the old Dekko Specs as part of the covergence design effort here at the office Dan
12:30 <JMulholland> Both myself and a visual designer (Jouni)
12:31 <DanChapman> Ok cool, i'll leave that in your hands then :-D
12:31 <JMulholland> I’ll put that item on the list foe things we should look to helping you improve with design support
12:31 <DanChapman> Thanks!
12:32 <DanChapman> popey: forgot to say I have no blockers
12:32 <popey> Ok.
12:32 <JMulholland> np, Jouni and I will be doing a kickoff meeting to dicuss it tomorrow and I’ll get you invited in on any new material we start working on
12:33 <DanChapman> excellent, look forward to it.
12:33 <JMulholland> fundamentaly we’re going to change little of all the good stuff already in there, just a funtional UX refresg up and visual refreh (as far as I know at this stage)
12:33 <JMulholland> *refresh
12:33 <JMulholland> with a mind to a convergent client
12:34 <popey> Excellent.
12:34 <DanChapman> \o/
12:34 <JMulholland> :D
12:34 <faenil> :)
12:35 <DanChapman> Shall we wrap up for this week then? i'll just keep knocking down the backlog
12:35 <popey> Ok, anything else?
12:35 <DanChapman> not for me
12:36 <popey> \o/
12:36 <popey> thanks guys
12:36 <popey> #endmeeting