== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Dekko meeting, 30 Apr at 12:01 — 12:33 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-04-30-12.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

''LINK:'' https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UGddusaEb9JRox8Lv-qa5baqs13zEq1l3g4m5qblk1M/edit#slide=id.gae74895aa_5_0 



== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * popey (39)
 * DanChapman (35)
 * JMulholland (5)
 * meetingology (3)
 * faenil (1)



== Full Log ==


 12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting

 12:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 30 12:01:17 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

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 12:01 <DanChapman> hello!

 12:01 <popey> How are we doing chaps?

 12:01 <faenil> great, as usual! \o/

 12:01 <DanChapman> Doing good thanks. Got a big update landed yesterday, so i'm happy

 12:02 <JMulholland> hi all!

 12:02 <JMulholland> doing well here, have some engineers over for a sprint so it’s proving to be a busy week :)

 12:02 <popey> Seems more people are using dekko, I'm seeing a number of bugs coming in.

 12:02 <DanChapman> Hey JMulholland

 12:03 <DanChapman> popey: yeah there has been some good bugs found last couple of days

 12:03 <DanChapman> Some are broken imap servers, not sure if we should workaround them or not atm

 12:05 <DanChapman> Right so i'm a bit confused on how the workflow is going to work if we need to use UOA for polld notifications. As that will mean seperating SMTP accounts from IMAP

 12:05 <DanChapman> How will this change our current setup wizardy steps

 12:06 <popey> Hm.

 12:07 <DanChapman> also migration isn't going to happen as we can't add accounts to UOA from outside the service

 12:07 <popey> UOA will only be used for a limited set of accounts though? Or generic ?

 12:07 <DanChapman> popey: generic

 12:07 <popey> Yeah, I don't think we have enough users to make migration an important thing to do

 12:07 <DanChapman> So there would be generic IMAP & SMTP providers

 12:07 <popey> or try to - knowing how hard it would be

 12:07 <popey> ok

 12:09 <DanChapman> For gmail and outlook we would only need to use the one provider for both imap & smtp.

 12:10 <popey> I think we need to bring this up with the UOA guys.

 12:11 <popey> Perhaps we get some account data from UOA, and the rest we prompt for?

 12:11 <DanChapman> right so would it be a case of "you need to reconfigure everything" or is it a case of don't break the existing right now and warn of deprecation in a coming update so re-configure it?

 12:11 <popey> with the fields filled in?

 12:11 <DanChapman> sorry mines about migration :-)

 12:11 <popey> ok

 12:11 <popey> I would like whatever I have to carry on working.

 12:11 <popey> Don't break existing installs.

 12:12 <popey> But, for new users, they can setup via UOA.

 12:12 <popey> and if someone _wants_ to migrate, they need to do it manually.

 12:12 <DanChapman> ok cool I agree with that.

 12:14 <DanChapman> Ahh i see how this is going to work now

 12:14 <DanChapman> right next...

 12:14 <DanChapman> :-)

 12:14 <popey> :)

 12:16 <DanChapman> Do we need to start thinking about tablet layouts soon?

 12:18 <JMulholland> It wouldn’t hurt to get ahead of covergence a little…

 12:18 <JMulholland> never too soon to start thinking about tablets/ desktop ;)

 12:20 <popey> Yes!

 12:20 <popey> We are creating a converged desktop image in this cycle

 12:20 <popey> based on unity8 / mir etc.

 12:20 <popey> Would be great to show off dekko running in multiple form factors.

 12:21 <DanChapman> JMulholland: indeed :-) The reason i ask is our 3 main views Mailbox list messgae list and message view all depend on a page being pushed for each to function properly. But in reality on a desktop they are going to lay next to each other.

 12:21 <DanChapman> popey: ahh so it might be better to tackle this sooner rather than later then

 12:22 <popey> indeed.

 12:22 * DanChapman was trying to guage how long he could put it off

 12:22 <popey> hah

 12:22 <popey> well we need to figure out how much work it is

 12:22 <DanChapman> ok then. Some UX designs would be good for that then :-D

 12:22 <popey> and how to integrate that (and not break) the existing app

 12:23 <DanChapman> that could be a good topic for UOS if i can make it

 12:24 <popey> +1

 12:24 <DanChapman> cool

 12:25 <DanChapman> i'm not sure where boren is up to with contacts, i think he is tied up elsewhere atm

 12:25 <DanChapman> popey: have you seen the contacts support UX bits from gventuri??

 12:25 <JMulholland> I’ll take a look at sketching out some wireframes ASAP Dan!

 12:26 <DanChapman> :-D awesome thanks!

 12:26 <popey> No.

 12:26 <DanChapman> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UGddusaEb9JRox8Lv-qa5baqs13zEq1l3g4m5qblk1M/edit#slide=id.gae74895aa_5_0

 12:27 <popey> ooh!

 12:28 <popey> So am I right in thinking we keep a separate address book?

 12:28 <popey> but can import from contacts app?

 12:30 <DanChapman> popey: yes that is the plan (short term) You will be able to mass import from contacts-app but you can manage your create/read/edit etc in dekko.

 12:30 <DanChapman> manage your own*

 12:31 <popey> ok

 12:31 <popey> Gotcha

 12:32 <DanChapman> I don't think I have anything else right now, notifications andcontacts are the two biggies.

 12:32 <popey> Ok.

 12:32 <DanChapman> shall we finish on time?

 12:32 <DanChapman> :-D

 12:33 <popey> ish

 12:33 <popey> Well, let me know whether you're around for UOS next week.

 12:33 <DanChapman> popey: should find out by tomorrow so will do

 12:33 <popey> If not, we can schedule a meeting maybe with some additional folks outside UOS

 12:33 <popey> ok.

 12:33 <DanChapman> popey: cool sounds good to me

 12:33 <popey> Ok, thanks guys.

 12:33 <popey> #endmeeting



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