13:11 <popey> #startmeeting Weather
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13:11 <popey> so i guess JMulholland introduced himself to you m-b-o :)
13:12 <m-b-o> so it is!
13:12 <JMulholland> :D
13:13 <popey> So, I wanted to catch up with you guys about the weather reboot and see how it's going
13:13 <popey> couple of links..
13:13 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+spec/weather-reboot
13:14 <popey> hmm, can't find the link to the google doc with the designs
13:14 <m-b-o> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tXcyMBvJAYvwFvUAmTTYzmBP2NFQgbG_Gy8e2gv91kU/edit#slide=id.p
13:14 <popey> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1qJ4wzwHsHGNb7GDVjrarMUj4lyro-dLR2_4Xu1b5vQU/edit#slide=id.p
13:14 <JMulholland> ta
13:14 <popey> hah, you beat me
13:14 * popey adds that to the blueprint so he doesn't lose it again
13:16 <m-b-o> one thing we noticed, is that there's no design for the weather data of the current day
13:16 <m-b-o> wind, humidity and so
13:17 <JMulholland> aha
13:17 <m-b-o> and/or how to reach it then... :)
13:18 <JMulholland> I know that giorgio and kerry were going for a very minimalist style in how the app looks
13:18 <JMulholland> but if nothing else, we could do it on the hourly forcast screen?
13:19 <JMulholland> under ‘chance of rain’ and next to the temp/high/low there’s space on the right
13:19 <JMulholland> might be able to place the info there
13:19 <JMulholland> that way the initial ‘today’ screen is still clean and minimal as girogio/kerry propossed
13:19 <m-b-o> yes, that's good. this way it would be seen immediately
13:22 <m-b-o> next thing is "pull to refresh" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1429484
13:22 <m-b-o> we've already implemented a pull to refresh in reboot now, by dragging the whole screen from the top
13:22 <JMulholland> Ah, yes,
13:23 <JMulholland> I was asked to comment on this some time ago, but only had the bug sharred with me yesterday :)
13:23 <JMulholland> personally I am a fan of pull to refresh, and the pattern is used elsewhere (e.g. scopes)
13:23 <JMulholland> so we dont have to worry about introducing hints ot anything to the design
13:24 <m-b-o> so you think, it's okay in the current form in reboot? (besides the background color)
13:25 <popey> JMulholland: i have a click package of the current version of the app
13:25 <popey> i can provide you details of how to install
13:25 <popey> and you can test it.
13:25 <JMulholland> I do, but I want to give rae a chance to explain her side. She’s out of office today, but i’ve made a note to have a quick catch up with her about it on monday before i comment on the bug
13:25 <JMulholland> that would be great, thanks alan!
13:26 <JMulholland> as for a refreshing/ loading animation Rae mentioned, I’d recommend placing it at the bottom of the screen ‘behind’ the bottom-edge hint
13:26 <JMulholland> consistant with other apps/scopes and we dont have to worry about the lack of a title bar to position it under that rae mentiones
13:27 <m-b-o> sounds good, I'll mak e a blueprint for this
13:28 <popey> JMulholland: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/clicks/com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click
13:28 <popey> JMulholland: adb push com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click /tmp
13:28 <popey> JMulholland: adb shell
13:29 <popey> JMulholland: pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /tmp/com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click
13:29 <popey> ^ make a note of that :)
13:29 <JMulholland> already ctrl+c/v’ed into a text file ;)
13:29 <JMulholland> thanks a mill alan!
13:31 <m-b-o> One question left from my side about the "current location" and how to handle it?
13:32 <m-b-o> respectively what to do, if now location is known...
13:32 <m-b-o> "no"
13:32 <popey> So, user first turns on phone, opens weather app, hasn't connected to wifi, and hasn't accepted the Nokia HERE agreement.
13:32 <popey> We have no way to know where they are.
13:33 <popey> On iOS you just get told "enable location" basically
13:33 <JMulholland> well we have location picking from lists, so we could go one better and say ‘enable location OR pick from lists’?
13:35 <m-b-o> Guess this is the corresponding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1432263
13:36 <JMulholland> assigned it to myself
13:37 <JMulholland> will follow up once I’ve thought through our options a little
13:37 <m-b-o> thanks!
13:38 <m-b-o> popey I'll have a look on GPS over the course of next week
13:38 <popey> Excellent, thanks.
13:40 <popey> Are there any other things you're blocking on?
13:41 <m-b-o> oh yes
13:41 <m-b-o> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-day-delegate-expand/+merge/255264
13:41 <m-b-o> homw many days in the daily forecast should/can be expanded?
13:42 <popey> one makes sense to me
13:42 <JMulholland> agree
13:43 <m-b-o> and when location is changed, the leaved view is "resetted"? Expanded forecasts closed and view back to the top?
13:44 <m-b-o> or should the state of a location view be preserved?
13:46 <popey> Hmm.
13:47 <popey> Not sure, I can see why it might make sense to reset on switching view.
13:48 <m-b-o> i for myself lose orientation thn, when the location name is not shown (when scrolled down before)
13:48 <popey> right, yes.
13:49 <JMulholland> If ive understood correctly;
13:50 <JMulholland> Im always reluctant to force changes in the UI automatically/ without user input…
13:51 <JMulholland> So i’d say the current page is preserved even if location changes, until the user navigates away from that view or restarts the app?
13:51 <m-b-o> ok
13:51 <JMulholland> that’s my instinct at least
13:52 <popey> ok
13:52 <m-b-o> as it is in reboot now. Let us stay with the current way and revisit it later on, if it doesn't work?
13:52 <JMulholland> sounds good to me
13:52 <m-b-o> alright, will comment on the MP
13:56 <popey> Ok, anything else?
13:58 <m-b-o> nope
13:58 <JMulholland> ok, good meeting you martin :)
13:58 <m-b-o> dito! :)
13:59 <popey> \o/
13:59 <popey> Thanks m-b-o JMulholland
13:59 <popey> Have a great weekend.
13:59 <JMulholland> You too popey!
13:59 <m-b-o> thank you all, have a nice weekend too!
14:00 <popey> #endmeeting