13:01 #startmeeting Calendar meeting 13:01 Meeting started Thu Apr 23 13:01:56 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:01 13:01 Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:01 hows it going? 13:02 going fine, how about you 13:02 great! 13:03 I see renato has been asking for people to test out his fixes to eds 13:03 and I think he's pushing for it to land in the next OTA which will be vivid based. 13:03 ok 13:05 I don't know when that'll be, but "soon" 13:05 we had 3 bugs targetted for this week. 13:05 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+milestone/2015-04-23 13:06 JMulholland: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1436972 13:06 Why was that marked invalid? Can you comment? 13:06 taking a look now 13:07 I was lead to believe that theres no such thing as an audible reminder that isn’t in some way visible 13:08 *visual 13:09 popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432632 13:09 so while we do want to show all reminders, there won’t be any cases of ‘audbile’ only reminders (only vsiaul reminders that have an audible part) 13:10 I agree with JMulholland 13:11 ok.ok. 13:11 Is my understanding correct? if so I’ll update the bug to indicate that *all* reminders should be shown (whether visual only OR visual with audible) 13:11 I think perhaps we're reading too much into the audible part 13:11 I think maybe the bug is more "I want to see _all_ reminders" 13:11 Seems so, the UX fix is straight foreward though Show all reminders" 13:11 yea 13:12 will amend and set to fix commited 13:12 meaning, I want to see the "24 hour before" reminder and the "email 1 hour before" reminder and the "5 mins before" reminder listed? 13:12 Ah, good point 13:12 Id say one per event, no? 13:12 That’s a fairly standard convention AFAIK 13:13 as of now we dont support setting more than one reminder 13:13 Right, but we should? 13:13 And even if we don't allow the user to _set_ multiple reminders, we should allow them to _see_ all the reminders set elsewhere? 13:14 i don't see any reason 13:14 That's how I understand the bug. 13:14 I am not sure, does google calendar (online one) support adding multiple reminder ? 13:14 if that, the I guess we should 13:15 *if that dose 13:15 yea just checked 13:15 google supports adding multiple “notifications” (reminders) 13:15 via pop-ups or emails 13:16 up to 5 of them, it looks like 13:16 ok, than we should support it too 13:16 +1 13:16 So we need design for that :) 13:16 Back to you JMulholland :) 13:17 adding it to the list :) 13:17 but popey , does our notification system support it ? 13:17 as of now there are many issues related to it ? 13:18 Well, if it doesn't, then we need to file bugs in the components which don't. 13:18 So indicator-datetime etc. 13:18 and from that reminds me, 13:18 Email notifications won't happen from the phone. 13:18 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1440111 13:18 can you have look at this bug 13:19 I added indicator-datetime, but they marked it invalid 13:19 so I am not sure who should address that bug 13:19 hmmm 13:19 just checked, calendar events are definitely covered in the Notifications UX spec 13:20 so we’ll need to get that implemented if it hasnt been already 13:21 yeah, that's a design issue. 13:22 and also, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1442240 13:22 I’ll follow up with the designer who put the notifications spec together and see if they know the dev status 13:23 kunal: swipe to delete behaviour seen elsewhere should apply here? 13:23 for 1442240 that is 13:24 but that would mean removing google calendar 13:24 I mean google account 13:24 and not sure if we can remove personal or birthday calendar 13:24 BTW I am not sure how we can remove calendar, 13:25 Yeah. That has to be done in system settings 13:25 I don't think we can do that from calendar app. 13:25 right, I think so 13:25 and you probably dont want to delete your google account 13:25 but just flip the switch in the google account to disable calendar sync 13:26 we can offer option to lead user to system setting, with some information 13:26 Right. Not sure the best way to lead someone there from here. 13:26 I mean, the usual pattern for delete is swipe right 13:26 but I think UX should study and provide some input 13:26 hm, well Id say we wouldnt be removing an account from system settings > accounts. For google for example, we’d be removing it from the calendar list (swipe right) and turning off the calendar sharing in system settings > accounts, if anything. RIght? 13:26 if we swipe right, tap the trash can icon, and that actually throws you to system settings, that's a bit ugly 13:27 right 13:27 but we don't have access to do that from the calendar app 13:27 you _have_ to open system settings to flip that switch 13:27 We need to make this process easier 13:27 better to just remove it from the calendar list and turn it off in system settings >accounts in the background, Id say 13:27 aha 13:27 we can't though 13:27 got you 13:27 right, we're in sync now :) 13:27 The fact that there's two lists of calendars is what confuses people 13:28 one list in system settings -> accounts -> each account 13:28 and the other in the calendar app 13:28 we need to streamline this. 13:28 it was raised in user testing too 13:28 yea, needs a little more thought 13:28 can you add a UX task to that bug and give it some thought? 13:29 will do 13:29 * popey left a comment. 13:29 thanks JMulholland 13:30 popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1443040 13:30 this bugs, related to indicator, can we remove calendar from affected project ? 13:30 * popey looks 13:31 done :) 13:31 ok :) thanks 13:32 JMulholland, 13:32 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432640 13:32 is this done ? 13:32 or Alex is going to provide something ? 13:33 I’ve asked visual deisgn for some guidance so any highlight colour we use matches the redesign work being done 13:33 Hoping they can get back to us with a couple of line description 13:33 I’ll give Alex a prod, it’s not a big task... 13:34 ok, I was just thinking should I wait or start working on it 13:35 thanks JMulholland 13:35 popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1419001 13:35 I suspect it will be a line around the current cell or light fill colour, so feel free to start working 13:35 do we need to do anything for that bug 13:35 ok, JMulholland 13:36 I just hoped alex could recommend a colour that fits visual designs style nciely 13:36 basically, I had one doubt related to this 13:36 I _do_ get notified 10 mins before 13:36 pretty sure that's fixed? 13:36 we highlight today and then we need to highlight tapped day 13:37 so what if we need to highlight today + tapped 13:37 if you can address that than I can start working on that 13:38 popey, charles commented 13:38 ah I see 13:39 for new events in the calendar.. I see 13:39 sorry, I assumed we were only talking about synced events 13:39 yes, we should do this, set to 10 mins before by default, same as Google 13:39 ? 13:40 Is that something we can do? 13:43 :( 13:47 ouch 13:56 \o/ 13:56 heya 13:56 looks like I lost connection 13:57 no worries 13:57 so for that bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1419001 13:57 though, I realized it just now 13:57 is that something we can fix ? 13:58 (for new events) 13:58 we can change 13:58 Adding ubuntu-calendar-app as also affected. Its "New Events" page for creating calendar events defaults to "On Event" rather than, say, 15 minutes before. 13:58 default time of reminder 13:58 as charles suggested 13:58 right. 13:58 default for google calendar is 10 mins 13:59 ok, then we can try the same 13:59 so would it make sense for us to have the same? 13:59 great 14:00 I targetted it for next week. 14:01 ok, 14:01 Anything else? 14:02 no nothing else 14:02 I am still trying to fix those AP test, not sure what's wrong 14:02 works fine on my machine 14:03 but behaves randomly on jenkins 14:03 so I will keep working on those and let reminder one bug 14:04 perhaps balloons can help with AP? 14:04 BTW please let me know your input for this 14:04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1440111 14:04 ok 14:04 yes, I try once more and if failed will ask for his help 14:05 I added some logs, I am hoping to get some useful information 14:05 * balloons reads 14:07 if you could provide some help or someone can that would be great balloons 14:07 we're overrunning, so I'll end the meeting here, 14:07 kunal, which test / mp? details? 14:08 https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/TapToCreateEvent/+merge/254175 14:08 https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/WeekNumber/+merge/255078 14:08 balloons: kunal want to move to #ubuntu-app-devel ? 14:08 thanks :) 14:08 #endmeeting