13:01 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting
13:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 16 13:01:53 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:01 <faenil> hola o/
13:02 <popey> hey kunal faenil JMulholland :)
13:02 <JMulholland> hihi  \ o /
13:02 <popey> JMulholland: kunal is the main developer of the calendar app
13:02 <popey> it's not default on the device images yet, but we're working on it.
13:02 <JMulholland> good to meet you kunal
13:02 <popey> kunal: JMulholland is a UX designer at canonical.
13:03 <JMulholland> thank goodness, we’ve all wondered why its not core for a long time,...
13:03 <popey> Yeah :)
13:03 <JMulholland> particularly given its integration with scopes like the today scope...
13:03 <popey> We're pushing for it.
13:03 <JMulholland> notifications… etc
13:03 <faenil> JMulholland: I guess there's no point until at least google and caldav are working? :D
13:03 <kunal> Hi
13:03 <popey> Google calendar sync works.
13:03 <popey> Has done for a year or more ㋛
13:03 <faenil> ah does it? I read a bug about it, and it doesn't work here :/
13:04 <popey> There are bugs in it, yes.
13:04 <popey> Mostly those bugs are in EDS, not the calendar app.
13:04 <faenil> okay
13:04 <faenil> good to know
13:04 <popey> Hows things kunal ?
13:04 <kunal> Not so good this week
13:05 <kunal> I thought I could resolve those UI related bugs
13:05 <kunal> but I need some input from UX
13:05 <kunal> so I ended in working on other bugs
13:05 <JMulholland> Well, I’m here to try and help with UX issues now kunal
13:06 <JMulholland> Is there a bug report for it or email you can forward me?
13:06 <kunal> sure
13:06 <popey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+milestone/2015-04-16
13:06 <popey> the bugs linked there, right kunal ?
13:06 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432634
13:06 <kunal> this bug
13:06 <kunal> we are using toolkit
13:06 <kunal> we are using picker from toolkit, so I guess this bug should be also on toolkit then ?
13:07 <JMulholland> It would certainly seem that way
13:07 <JMulholland> I can follow up with the SDK guys and find out
13:07 <kunal> Btw, JMulholland nice to meet you
13:07 <kunal> also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432634
13:07 <kunal> this bug
13:08 <kunal> I thought visual and audible reminder is both part of notification
13:08 <kunal> why we need to display them independently ?
13:08 <JMulholland> same as the previous bug you linked?
13:09 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1436972
13:09 <kunal> sorry ,
13:09 <JMulholland> no worries :)
13:09 <faenil> I just pinged the assignee :)
13:09 <faenil> for the datepicker one
13:10 <kunal> ok,
13:10 <JMulholland> On the surface I would say you are correct, the distinction for audible/visible alerts isnt relevant.
13:10 <kunal> it would be also good to have some UX feedback on that reminder bug
13:11 <JMulholland> An event is always visible and may or may not have an audible reminder turned on, if I’ve understood?
13:11 <kunal> I think, Audible part is controlled by Profile user select
13:12 <kunal> if silent then no audio, it normal then audio
13:12 <kunal> I dont know why it needs to be controlled from Calendar
13:14 <kunal> also this bug
13:14 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432624
13:14 <kunal> There are two similar bugs
13:14 <JMulholland> I dont either, and the point still stands - A reminder is a reminder, the audible part is on or off and determined by profile, not the event itself. Right?
13:14 <kunal> would be great if I get some UX related feedback
13:15 <kunal> yes, I think so
13:17 <popey> kunal: going forward, we should add tasks for ubuntu-ux (as you've done) and assign those directly to JMulholland
13:18 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432640
13:18 <kunal> ok
13:18 <JMulholland> On that last one kunal, is the supprt request for some design help on the visual for the highlight?
13:18 <popey> JMulholland: what's your launchpad ID?
13:18 <JMulholland> 1432624
13:18 <kunal> yes, I need some kind of visual input
13:19 <kunal> so how highlighted day should look like
13:19 <JMulholland> my id is jamesjosephmulholland
13:19 <popey> ta
13:19 <kunal> for Month/ Day/ WeekView
13:19 <JMulholland> I’ll see if one of the visual designers can lend a han/ opinion
13:19 <popey> it won't let me assign you, could you please JMulholland
13:20 <kunal> For MonthView, we are highlighting  today as well
13:20 <JMulholland> on it
13:21 <kunal> JMulholland, I don't need full blown UI Design,  but some suggestive design or indicator would help
13:22 <kunal> also,
13:22 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432621
13:23 <kunal> UX says won't fix, so do we need to fix it or not ?
13:23 <JMulholland> on that one;
13:24 <JMulholland> Jouni Helminen (jounihelminen) wrote on 2015-03-17:
13:24 <JMulholland> suru divider is being deprecated in new header design
13:24 <JMulholland> So according to Jouni, the visual design plan is to move away from the Suru Divider so it wont be an issue any more?
13:24 <kunal> so right, I don't understand , are we talking about header here ?
13:25 <popey> The header will be changed (at some point)
13:25 <popey> Dekko has already implemented this.
13:25 <JMulholland> the suru divieder is the dark grey bar under the header, and headers are currently being rethough/redesigned by visual design AFAIK
13:25 <kunal> ok,
13:25 <JMulholland> that bug is specifically about the suru (drak grey bit) which theyre talking about getting rid of
13:26 <faenil> the datepicker bug now has the datepicker design
13:26 <faenil> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1432634
13:26 <JMulholland> oh good, alex found it wihtout me having to nudge him :)
13:26 <JMulholland> does that give you what you need?
13:27 <faenil> not sure that's a solution though
13:27 <faenil> if they're using the sdk component
13:27 <faenil> then it's the sdk team who should take the design and update the component
13:27 <popey> +1
13:29 <JMulholland> would you feed that back to alex in the bug report, so he can communicate it back to the SDK guys in the way Visual design usually does?
13:30 <JMulholland> functionaly the picker hasnt changed, so it wont go via UX to them
13:30 <kunal> ok,
13:30 <JMulholland> thanks!
13:31 <JMulholland> I’ve also passed the highlight bug to him too, just so he can write a quick recomendation for it (rather than producing a design)
13:31 <popey> Ok, we're over time a bit. Anything else we need to discuss?
13:33 <kunal> no, nothing from me
13:33 <JMulholland> Ok, good meeting you!
13:33 <kunal> I will try to triage some bugs and try to work on those
13:33 <faenil> see you at the next meeting :)
13:33 <kunal> apart form fixing failing AP
13:34 <faenil> what is that?
13:34 <popey> Autopilot.
13:34 <faenil> ah ok
13:34 <popey> kunal: once we get those AP issues fixed I can push an update with all those lovely changes to the store :)
13:34 <kunal> I fixed one AP
13:35 <popey> Excellent.
13:35 <kunal> other I will try now
13:35 <kunal> I think those are easy one
13:35 <popey> Ok.
13:35 <popey> I'll keep an eye on the merges. Let me know if you need anything re-processing or testing.
13:36 <popey> I'll re-assign those 3 bugs to next milestone.
13:36 <kunal> popey, I want some one to review
13:36 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/UrlInvocation/+merge/255234
13:36 <kunal> renatu, can you review
13:37 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/MakeEditorVisible/+merge/253767
13:37 <kunal> and
13:37 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/SettingToAccountSetup/+merge/254478
13:37 <popey> kenvandine: are you able to review https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/UrlInvocation/+merge/255234 ?
13:37 <popey> (or do you know who would be best for that?)
13:38 <kenvandine> popey, probably ted
13:38 <popey> ok
13:38 <popey> will ask
13:38 <kunal> popey, also we are waiting for this MR since long
13:38 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~ricsipontaz/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-for-bug-1428501/+merge/251878
13:39 <popey> ah
13:39 <kenvandine> popey, it's just parsing the url it recieved right?
13:39 <kenvandine> received :)
13:39 <popey> it didnt merge because the person who made it isn't in the team
13:39 <popey> I think so, yes, kunal ^
13:40 <kunal> yes, just parting URL
13:40 <kenvandine> then anyone can review that, it's not really a url-dispatcher thing :)
13:40 <popey> kunal: approved so jenkins should pick it up
13:40 <popey> ok
13:40 <kenvandine> but should be someone familiar with calendar
13:41 <popey> ok, reassigned to mihir
13:41 <popey> (after mistakenly assigning to a random other person along the way)
13:42 <popey> Ok, anything else kunal ?
13:42 <kunal> no, nothing else
13:42 <popey> Brilliant.
13:43 <popey> Thanks everyone!
13:43 <popey> #endmeeting