12:02 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
12:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 16 12:02:52 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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12:02 <JMulholland> So if you have any design questions or bugs, shoot them my way and I’ll do what I can
12:03 <popey> hows it going DanChapman ?
12:03 <JMulholland> … On an unrelated note, this is probably my first IRC meeting since being a member of a gaming clan in the 90’s… ;)
12:03 <popey> hah
12:04 <faenil> :)
12:04 <DanChapman> popey: it's going good at the moment. Some big improvments performance wise, not sure if they made a difference on krillin. Did you manage to test that click yesterday
12:05 <popey> sadly not yet.
12:05 <popey> its in my queue!
12:05 <popey> I will take a look this afternoon.
12:06 <DanChapman> hey James great to meet you. Atm we need some design help with how to handle contacts in the app. I have mailed gventuri about this but no reply just yet.
12:06 <DanChapman> popey: excellent thanks
12:06 <popey> He pinged me on G+ this week to say he's got a new contract and thus time is limited
12:06 <popey> (which we expected really)
12:06 <JMulholland> Hey Dan, sorry to say that Girogio has moved on from Canonical now so will no longer be able to help
12:07 <JMulholland> in the interim, i’ll be providing design support whereever possible, feel free to forward that email over to me!
12:08 <DanChapman> JMulholland: ok great so just after Giorgio left we needed to copy the current design spec so he could make additions https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UGddusaEb9JRox8Lv-qa5baqs13zEq1l3g4m5qblk1M/edit?usp=sharing do we want them moved back to the original specs?
12:09 <popey> JMulholland: Girorgio did say he'd be able to contribute as a community contributor after leaving canonical, but I fear his time may be limited...
12:09 <DanChapman> JMulholland: I'll forward the email on aswell and introduce you to boren, he will be working on the contacts parts
12:09 <popey> and now we have you :)
12:09 <JMulholland> great, thanks
12:09 <popey> So we have two means of communicating issues here then.
12:09 <popey> 1) the design doc
12:09 <popey> 2) bugs with ubuntu-ux tasks
12:10 <popey> So for any bugs that come up which have design questions not covered by the docs, add an upstream task for the ubuntu-ux project
12:10 <popey> and assign to JMulholland
12:10 <popey> he can then look at them and provide design feedback.
12:10 <JMulholland> If girogio is planning to carry on providing commnity design support (great!)/ additions to the spec, we should probably keep a version live that he can access from outside of canonical
12:10 <JMulholland> then roll that into the internal one when it makes sense to do so (or seems useful/beneficial)
12:11 <DanChapman> ok sounds good to me
12:11 <JMulholland> popey: sounds good!
12:11 <JMulholland> and you can always ping me on here/ drop me an email for anything pressing
12:12 <popey> The dekko team also have a separate irc channel - #dekko
12:12 <popey> so feel free to add that to your join list, as outside of meetings, discussion often happens there
12:12 <JMulholland> added it to my autojoin list
12:12 <popey> sweet.
12:13 <DanChapman> one thing we also need which i havn't ogt time for atm is the prototype created for that new bottom edge animation. I think nik90 has also been busy elsewhere to have a stab at it
12:13 <DanChapman> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwhxYaiA7z1qSUtJNm9Rd2UzWDQ/view?usp=sharing
12:13 <DanChapman> if you havn't seen them yet
12:14 <DanChapman> popey: is there anyone else who could maybe help out with this?
12:14 <popey> To create a prototype?
12:15 <popey> nik90: are you about? have you started anything with the dekko bottom edge?
12:15 <DanChapman> was it not decided that proto should be made as a generic component that anyone could use? it's been a while since we spoke about so i maybe wrong
12:15 * popey looks at faenil as he knows qml :)
12:15 <popey> Yeah, i remember it like that too
12:16 * DanChapman also looks at faenil
12:17 <popey> I have a couple of other things to mention once we're done looking at faenil
12:17 <faenil> mm
12:17 <popey> one, is we have a contact for moving forward on notifications. let me ping you and boren a mail about it so we can sync up.
12:17 <DanChapman> awesome news!
12:17 <popey> ya!
12:17 <DanChapman> :-D
12:18 <popey> two, we have Ubuntu Online Summit coming up soon - and we could probably do with a session about dekko.
12:18 <popey> Setting out what the plans are for the next ~6 months.
12:18 * faenil has a look
12:18 <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1505/ - 5th to 7th May.
12:18 <DanChapman> wow it's that time again already. Sure sounds good to me. Might get some fresh blood from it :-)
12:19 <faenil> mmm .ai files...
12:20 <DanChapman> faenil: I believe it was main_circles_01.mp4 was the preffered animation
12:20 <DanChapman> popey: so do I need to fill out a blueprint for that?
12:20 <popey> DanChapman: that would be awesome, yeah!
12:20 <popey> I can slot it into the schedule in the app dev track wherever is most convenient
12:21 <popey> then we can put a call out for people to come along
12:21 <faenil> as far as I know there's still discussion ongoing internally about a template for the bottom edge
12:21 <faenil> right JMulholland ?
12:21 <DanChapman> ok cool, i'll catch up with boren and see when is good for him aswell
12:21 <popey> thanks
12:21 <JMulholland> Indeed it is, the designs in the motion examples you shared are new to me
12:22 <faenil> wow, that video looks shiny
12:22 <faenil> (maybe too much?)
12:22 <faenil> not sure it makes sense to prototype that before that discussion has come to a stable point :/
12:24 <popey> ETA on that?
12:24 <popey> Because if we wait for everything to become stable, we wouldn't have half the apps we do :)
12:24 <DanChapman> :-)
12:24 <popey> (not throwing knives at anyone, just stating a fact)
12:24 <faenil> yeah...you're right..
12:24 <faenil> sure, I agree with that
12:24 <faenil> JMulholland: do you know anything about that? I heard about the new template yesterday for the first time
12:26 <JMulholland> I’ve not heard of any new template for the bottom edge as yet (just getting started on apps as Ive been focussed on Platform up until now). But I will follow up and see what I can find out
12:26 <popey> Thanks JMulholland
12:27 <popey> DanChapman: any other things we need to discuss?
12:27 <DanChapman> Ok cool, so do we just stick with the current radial menu for now then?
12:27 <popey> I think so.
12:27 <popey> I wouldn't put effort into re-developing that until we have _some_ stability
12:27 <faenil> I will try to get more info and let you know guys
12:27 <popey> otherwise we'll keep iterating and waste developer time on it.
12:28 <faenil> yeah...
12:28 <DanChapman> popey: nope not at the moment. I'll forward those messages on and tag the bugs that need input
12:28 <DanChapman> ok cool
12:28 <popey> ok, I'll ping you about notifications.
12:28 <popey> great!
12:28 <popey> Lets wrap up on time for once! :)
12:28 <popey> Thanks DanChapman JMulholland faenil !
12:28 <popey> #endmeeting