== Meeting information ==
 * #ubuntu-touch-meeting: Shorts meeting, 06 Mar at 12:32 — 13:03 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-touch-meeting/2015/ubuntu-touch-meeting.2015-03-06-12.32.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==




== Vote results ==




== Done items ==

 * (none)



== People present (lines said) ==

 * JoeyChan (46)
 * popey (41)
 * nik90 (3)
 * meetingology (3)



== Full Log ==


 12:32 <popey> #startmeeting Shorts meeting

 12:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Mar  6 12:32:48 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 12:32 <meetingology> 

 12:32 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 12:32 <popey> how was the new year celebrations?

 12:33 <JoeyChan> Yeah,  that was great  :D

 12:33 <JoeyChan> And nice to c MEIZU device in MWC

 12:33 <popey> yeah!

 12:34 <popey> lots of videos and photos posted online I've seen

 12:34 <JoeyChan> ╮(￣▽￣)╭

 12:34 <JoeyChan> Can't wait to get one!

 12:35 <JoeyChan> And lots of people asked me when can buy in China   :P

 12:35 <popey> Yeah, I can't wait!

 12:35 <popey> Looks like a nice device.

 12:36 <popey> so, shorts.

 12:36 <popey> How are things going with the C++ rewrite?

 12:36 <JoeyChan> the API of the connectivity still broken, so I skip this one

 12:37 <JoeyChan> now focusing the C++ database engine

 12:38 <JoeyChan> And I remembered Roman emailed u week ago about design

 12:38 <popey> yes, i haven't got back to him.

 12:38 <popey> I spoke to our design team

 12:39 <popey> They are all really busy with other apps - as usual.

 12:39 <popey> However if we have some specific requests we can probably get answers from them.

 12:39 <JoeyChan> I c

 12:40 <JoeyChan> No worry,  the database part is a big guy to deal with    :P

 12:41 <JoeyChan> And I did some research on some other RSS apps

 12:41 <popey> Ok, any providers other than google?

 12:41 <JoeyChan> Unfoturnally not ...

 12:41 <JoeyChan> the most cases

 12:42 <JoeyChan> There r some default rss feeds in their apps

 12:42 <JoeyChan> and sync with some online services

 12:42 <JoeyChan> like Feedly

 12:43 <JoeyChan> Of course  the direct url input and opml support they all got

 12:43 <popey> Right.

 12:44 <JoeyChan> One idea came out today that I am using Shorts

 12:45 <JoeyChan> I realise I am using a static IP to connect Google

 12:45 <popey> maybe they're blocking _you_ ? :)

 12:45 <JoeyChan> So maybe just put a optional static IP in shorts ??  :P

 12:45 <popey> haha

 12:46 <JoeyChan> Didn't test this,  will try soon

 12:47 <JoeyChan> like using       http://111.222.333.4/rss/search?word=xxx       replace       http://googleapi.com/rss/search?word=xxx

 12:49 <popey> Not sure that will scale well.

 12:49 <JoeyChan> I don't know

 12:49 <popey> Maybe detect that you're in China and use a different service, or use static IP?

 12:49 <JoeyChan> will find out

 12:49 <popey> But outside China use the hostname.

 12:49 <popey> maybe.

 12:49 <popey> It's a hack :)

 12:49 <JoeyChan> haha

 12:51 <JoeyChan> so,  any location service in UT now ?

 12:51 <JoeyChan> that I can detect where I am ?

 12:51 <popey> Yes, there's qtlocation api

 12:51 <popey> yes.

 12:51 <popey> other apps like clock use it.

 12:51 <JoeyChan> good

 12:51 <JoeyChan> if the static IP works

 12:51 <JoeyChan> I will use the loaction API

 12:52 <popey> Ok.

 12:52 <popey> .oO( We should make it easy to use Tor / proxies on Ubuntu Touch )

 12:52 <nik90> JoeyChan: clock uses the standard QtLocation API..it should work..we don't use IP-based location detection any more since it was found to be inaccurate in some areas

 12:53 <popey> Bet it's pretty accurate at detecting between "China" and "Not China"

 12:53 <JoeyChan> nik90:   I only need to use it if the user is in China   :P

 12:53 <JoeyChan> haha

 12:53 <nik90> popey: hehe yes it should be :)

 12:54 <nik90> JoeyChan: oh ok..I understand

 12:55 <JoeyChan> popey:  another question,  what's the startup time of your Shorts ?

 12:55 <popey> Ok, anything else we need to discuss?

 12:55 <popey> on bq?

 12:55 <JoeyChan> any

 12:55 <JoeyChan> n4 or bq

 12:56 <popey> i only have bq... let me test

 12:56 <JoeyChan> now it take more than 10s to luanch in my n4

 12:56 <popey> 6s

 12:56 <JoeyChan> that's long ..  :(

 12:56 <popey> from clean, not started it at all today.

 12:57 <popey> 4s on second start

 12:57 <popey> The bq is not a fast phone.

 12:57 <JoeyChan> Roman & I are discussing to imporve the startup time

 12:58 <JoeyChan> In my own app (use c++),  only 2s is needed

 12:58 <popey> wow

 12:59 <JoeyChan> and that's not a full startup, and it takes another 2s to load other components

 12:59 <JoeyChan> dynamic launch & load

 13:00 <JoeyChan> Anyway it has better UX than pure qml app

 13:01 <popey> Awesome.

 13:01 <JoeyChan> any other to discuss ?   :)

 13:02 <popey> Nope.

 13:02 <popey> Not from me. Look forward to seeing a prototype of your C++ version

 13:02 <JoeyChan> :)

 13:03 <popey> Have a great weekend.

 13:03 <JoeyChan> u 2

 13:03 <popey> ping if you have anything to test :)

 13:03 <JoeyChan> will :)

 13:03 <popey> #endmeeting



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